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"CR: @yaoisqueeze (proofreading) [From Squeeze: Needed more sex. If you’re gonna make me cry like that… I need some good sex to make up for it.] - Thank youuuu! <3

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Ahhhhh, Chigusaaaaa. It hurt to see him suffer ;-; ......."
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The word "LINK" is the link you need to read the translated Ch.7

Sorry, I can't post their link here, not supposed to hotlink.

Perhaps they are sad because it isn't Yaoi

Is it even shounen-ai? Or just another slice of life story with bromance theme?

Uh. It's not that sad.
It's sad in the sense that it's so beautifully understanding

more than calling it sad is kind of "touching", and is not tagged like shounen ai but you can find some bromance worth shipping

It's not completely fluffy, nor is it too dark. The mangaka nailed the balance of "just right".

The characters all have some sadness in their backstories, but it's used more to highlight the happiness they have in the manga. Overall, it gives more a "you can be happy again after bad stuff" feeling rather than tragedy.

Its really sad I read all sensei manga I like them all but this one so emotional it got me .. As always sensei is really amazing in her stories ......BTW I don't read tragedy nor sad once expect strong story.

it does feel like a tragedy for me though, not THAT sad but JUST sad. most likely about those three's relationship

Not at all lol ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Shounen art style is cute tho, it's nostalgic of inuyasha.

Surpringly he was never blackmailed. That photo didn’t play much of a role. Sangtae actually felt bad about the photo for a little bit and end up deleting it cause he thought that it was what caused Jinwoo to snap.

I agree, Jinwoo needs some justice for the bullying/sexual assault/rape. Like Lostdonut said, there is no blackmail, but i don't agree that he "felt bad" and deleted it, he was trying to trick Jinwoo into thinking he's straight by saying "it's the photo that makes you think i'm gay, right? I'll delete it". Little does he know that it's the fantasies Jinwoo is talking about so he ignores the photo lie attempt and calls him on the lie saying that he definitely is gay. Who knows if that was even the only picture too? ლ ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Don't worry, you will see later how Sangtae will show "sweet" and cuddly; it's not Unfather or anything.
Carry on with the reading and then tell me what you think - (yes I know, initially she is an asshole)
^ I used google translate, lol

sangtae = little baby in need of love, always in love with Jinwoo.





Spoiler

Sangtae delete the photo.
Sangtae know he is gay lol-

Well now that I went back to re read it... I somewhat agree .with you. He deleted the photo in ch 10. But in ch 9, he did think that the photo has cross some line he shouldn’t cross... so I think he was less trying to prove that he’s not gay... more to make Jinwoo less angry... which I think he thought was the reason a Jinwoo was calling him a gay perv.

what he means by "i aggravated the situation" is that took the picture TO make fun of Jinwoo and he thinks it might have a role in Jinwoo's recent "breakdown" that he's speculating about in this scene, he says "some lines shouldn't be crossed" while smiling, he finds it amusing. He also goes to jerk off to the picture right after, not sure where to see "he feels bad" at? He just doesn't know the situation yet, it's not a "breakdown", it's the fantasies. When he DOES find out the reason for Jinwoo's recent strange behavior, that being the fantasies, he doesn't "feel bad" either, he sexually assaults him the 1st time and rapes him the 2nd time while saying "why should i feel bad about something i can't control?". It's like: "Nobody expects you to feel bad about the fantasies, well not directly, what you should feel bad about is all that stuff you were thinking to yourself about in ch 9, how BECAUSE of the fantasies Jinwoo's acting all weird to the point that you think he's having a breakdown...". That, and that you're taking advantage of his situation to please yourself, the 1st time was understandable to a degree, but the 2nd time was just conscious rape. He KNEW at that point that ALL he has to do is touch Jinwoo to help him, but instead he took him to a stall, pushed him onto the toilet and forced sex on him. This time there was penetration, he fingered him against his will.

Thank you. Wonder when will he show such sweet side? I might as well wait for that.

After reading the Raw, I noticed this side of him in the chapter:
16 (yeah lol)
17 (soo cute)

I suppose you will not immediately notice this side of him - we're in a yaoi, right? - but sometimes, we can enjoy those little moments.
as I have already said, I am sure that Sangtae will prove to be "as good as a piece of bread."
^ yes, I still use google translate LOOOL

good as a piece of bread = Italian phrase to say "very good, sweet"



P.s I love Sangtae lolol a lot
p.p.s I have only watched the Raw, unfortunately I do not know the Korean, but I think that you see perfectly his little sweet side

Mmm... In between bouts of rape and causing Jinwoo shit tons of stress as usual. Honestly, it looks like the status quo to me, just a little more talking between the two of them and at one point he holds Jinwoo's hand under the table at a meeting to help him speak. It only really looks like they're talking more because Jinwoo is pissed that he broke up with his girlfriend because of Sangtae, you see him talking on the phone a lot with a happy expression and then immediately switching to an irritated expression while talking to Sangtae. Sure, it's cute, but there's like 3 more unwilling sex scenes and on the latest one, where he actually uses his dick, Jinwoo actually tries to kick him away and he just forces him anyways... It happens RIGHT afterone of his fantasies cause Jinwoo to sprain his ankle, he gets irritated when he sees Jinwoo talking happily on the phone, it looks like Jinwoo tells him his girlfriend is finally willing to meet up and talk again, so Sangtae offers to "help by giving him a ride in his car" because of the sprain. They're about to leave when two co-workers walk out of the building and see them holding hands, they play it off, i'm assuming Sangtae offers them a ride home too, and this ends up with Sangtae in the front seat watching Jinwoo squirm because of the fantasies which turns him on as well. The other two get out of the car and he IMMEDIATELY jumps Jinwoo and there's the unwilling sex scene again, Jinwoo literally tries to kick him away when he pulls out his dick, but he scoots closer and forces him. As per usual, Jinwoo is swept away and looks depressed afterwards... It shows it in a comedic light, but it shows him upset about "losing his virginity" and he's all hunched over and sad looking. They make it to his apartment complex finally and see Jinwoo's girlfriend was indeed waiting in front, there's a tiny "funny" moment where Sangtae lets Jinwoo off his back because i guess the sex and the sprain? Then Jinwoo goes into his apartment with his girlfriend, still looking upset about what happened with Sangtae and he comes to work and ignores Sangtae the next day, which irritates Sangtae so he flicks him with a rubber band. It's all just the usual, Sangtae is still just taking advantage of a straight guy who can't help but respond when he touches him even though he fights him off verbally and makes it clear he's not liking it. There is just a little bit more of Sangtae being "cute", which is really just him STILL taking advantage of the situation to touch Jinwoo since "it can't be helped" (the hand holding scene) and talking more with Jinwoo assumingly because he broke up with his girlfriend.

Thank you for the details. I might have to skip this series for a long time... Don't really like Sangtae acting like a jerk like that. I mean...I don't really get the concept of bullying the one you like at all...it's so childish. Though some people stay in abusive relationships, but Jinwoo didn't even like it...

with my knowledge of English basics, I understood (I hope) what you intended.
I will never deny that Sangtae is a bastard, an asshole and a jerk (because this is also it) and I will not deny even how much I take advantage of the poor boy whose name I will never remember (RIP), but I do not know:

- the guy "Uke" does not seem so straight, but not even totally gay.
obviously this does not change anything, it was simply a note eh!

- that scene of "holding hands" I replied sweet because I do not know, I noticed the look of Sangtae. Yes it's true, before and after they continued to fuck, but at that moment I noticed something ... that's where I changed my mind.


I repeat, I'm sure (and I hope) that more forward Sangtae will change (as in any manga / manhwa yaoi self-respecting) and boh, I recommend going on with reading, because stopping only at the beginning is quite wrong.



talking about the boy "straight" .. well, usually a straight does not respond to certain stimuli, especially because "sees" / "understands" that the person is of his own sex.
I can confirm it, as a gay boy which I am ~



P.s I hope that Sangtae obviously pay for what he did (although I like him as a character) ... but I also hope that those two get together ヽ (* ≧ ω ≦) ノ and be so happy!
+ I hope I did not give a bad idea of me; h;

[sorry for various errors, but I use google translate and it's not always perfect]

I do not advise you to jump, as very often they put scenes from the past, so you might miss something.
yes I know, it happens very often that US boys, with the girl / boy we like we behave badly, to attract his attention-
we are jerks AHAHAHAHAHA (how sad)

we pray for Jinwoo
but I will continue to shipparli
Because I find them so cute





we thank google translate loool

Haha I'm kinda glad you took the effort to comment here (using Google translate and everything), cause I totally agree with you. Sangtae is just your usual bully seme. They're usually nice to everyone (which they find tiresome), so they love to let loose on the uke. (But they're also usually super caring to their uke too, though Jinwoo also has my sympathies). So I kinda like Sangtae, also because he knows that he should be careful and not push Jinwoo too hard, or hurt/ compromise him. I mean he did have a photograph of Jinwoo in a questionable position, which he never used (for blackmail or otherwise) and deleted willingly. And he never made a move, until Jinwoo openly spoke of his sexual "dreams" with him.

Also, everyone has the right to their private sexual fantasies. It's not Sangtae's fault that Jinwoo can see his private fantasies. You automatically assume that Santae is to be blamed. But that is not true. Sangtae's is not purposefully sending his thought to Jinwoo. At the end of the day, I don't think you can blame Sangtae's for what's happening. Also, look at it from Sangtae's point of view. Privacy of your mind is a basic facet of human existence. How would you feel knowing that someone else can compromise your thoughts and see them.

Especially for a gay man. I am a lesbian (I haven't come out yet). But I live in constant fear that someone will see my browser history/ from the things I say etc etc. Imagine having to worry about others reading my thoughts.....

Thank you everyone! Didn't think my post would have a lot of responses for days. Thank you for carefully explaining things for me, I really wish could reply to all of you at once. I don't mean to skip chapters, but skipping reading this for a while for the story to get a little bit better. It's all my personal feelings that disliking the way Sangtae is. I do wish he will treat Jinwoo kindly somehow and will pay for whatever he did. Thank you for you coming out here as well. I'm a pansexual myself and I had the phases for bullying the ones I like before (elementary school I guess) but as I'm not a normal cis, as I got older and saw more things I perceived bullying, in whatever forms, is not good, whether to your friends, siblings, cousins, lovers, etc. Some might not mind it, but many are shaped, shaken, taken and hurt by it whether you do or do not mean well with your prank. Whatever, why so serious? Yeah, why am I talkng about bullying here? Erm, dunno.
BTW, Your English is much more perfect than Google Translate itself. Thank again for answering my questions and easing my concerns.

I am happy to have found someone who has managed to express his and my thoughts about it. Actually I would never be able to accuse (regarding the fantasies) Sangtae because .. hey, who does not happen to have little sexual fantasies? Regardless of Jinwoo's situation, he would have continued with his mental movies from fangirl lolol-

Of course, on the fact that he has swept Jinwoo over and over again I can not say much but .. in short, you have understood AHAHAHA.



I remain of the idea that Jinwoo liked to do certain things but shhh-

and yes, I understand you perfectly. I am constantly subjected to the fear of "being discovered", that my friends / parents discover what I read and what I believe. ugh.

aaaw of nothing! And don't worry, I'm certainly not here to tell you "you're wrong!" or "you're right!" (I seem to be in Ace Attorney AHAHAH); There are those who feel uncomfortable reading these things and yes, it's normal.
Of course, if you feel bad reading this and you feel good reading Killing Stalking (?) Well - I would have something to say ahahah ~
however, don't worry
I thank you for the kindness and for the "" compliment "" ヽ (≧ ω ≦) ノ
have a nice day :3

He only deleted the photo to trick Jinwoo into thinking he's straight.

No. He deleted the photo because he was worried Jinwoo was too stressed, and he thought it might be because of the photo. Please don't do stuff like this. They made it clear in the manga. If you want, I'll post the chapter.

I've read the chapter... Go ahead and post it... He's contemplating what he assumes is a "breakdown" Jinwoo is having, he says "maybe it's the photo" and then says "maybe i crossed a line?" while smirking, he then goes to jerk off to the picture when Jinwoo shows up suddenly and calls him gay. He sits Jinwoo down and says "Who told you that? is this about the photo? I'll delete it" . He deletes it to try and convince Jinwoo he's straight... The photo isn't what Jinwoo was talking about though, so he doesn't fall for it and tells him about the fantasies, which he'd really been talking about. You shoulf read back.

The scene is ch 10, pgs 6-9 for any who want to read it.

Oh, and the beginning is ch 9, pgs 8-11!

ch 9-10

I have read these chapters and I have not read any of this- indeed, I have understood that he is rather worried because he thinks he has aggravated the situation.
I understood "yes, with this gesture I exaggerated, overcoming a line not to be crossed." And that smile I find it rather embarrassed, guilty. well I happen to do it lolol -

if you allow me, I think it is stupid to think that Sangtae tries to hide his homosexuality ... in short, if he soon fucks with Jinwoo it is obvious that it is almost a .. coming out -


be clear, I did not say you're stupid, I meant that the reasoning seemed illogical, all here-

maybe then I'm wrong, since I do not understand English very well ^^ "


~ Good Evening!

p.s already long before he was going to delete the photo ^^

Well, maybe you should get your eyes checked. Sangtae thinks that Jinwoo put a lot of hardwork into the project. Maybe the photo added to his stress and workload. He then realised that he probably went too far and that some lines shouldn't be crossed. So he has a mental conflict of whether or not he should jerk off to the photo "just once" before he deleted it. When Jinwoo messages that he wants to meet him, he decides to tell him that he'll delete the photo. When Jinwoo comes, Sangtae AT THE SAME TIME AS JINWOO accused him of being gay, offers to delete the photo.so cut the crap. But glasses. But ofcourse glasses won't solves your problem, which is that you only see what you wanna see, and conveniently ignore everything else! Hmph! Chapter 9, pages 7-11

Lol, what? He smirks and laughs while saying "maybe i crossed a line"? He finds Jinwoo's stress entertaining... He then goes to JERK OFF to the photo, where are you seeing sincere regret here? When he's offering to delete the photo, it's initially to apologize about it, which yeah he should since he took a picture of a straight coworker masturbating knowing "it's going to far" since he's gay (hence the moral dellema of whether or not he SHOULD jerk off to it), once Jinwoo accuses him of being gay he says "did you think i'd just admit it?" in his head and proceeds to take it as a challenge of wit. "so amateur, that won't work on me". His intentions in deleting the photo MOVED FROM being about an apology to being about outwitting "the amateur" Jinwoo into thinking he's straight, hence his next dialogue being "i'm not sure who told you that, but it's all a misunderstanding", -sits him down-, "i know you've been under a lot of stress lately and that photo i took of you probably made you extra angry, right? But you shouldn't go around framing people, here, i'll delete the photo". Who exactly is ignoring dialogue? I sure as hell am not, get your own eyes checked or maybe take off the rose-tinted shades honey. Jinwoo then calls him on his lie, exactly as i said, "That's not it! I didn't hear it from anyone! I found out because i started seeing your fantasies".

He's not ready to come out, Jinwoo outs him... Then he gets horny when Jinwoo shows him his dick to prove that the fantasies are real. He has no right to jump somebody in this context, Jinwoo had JUST explained what was happening and instead of talking/trying to figure things out he just got horny and jumped Jinwoo before he could react. If he was really "concerned" for him more than at a superficial level he'd have actually tried to help, not forced sex on someone making it clear they're shocked with what's happening and don't want it (he says "w-what are you doing", "w-wait a min-", "flamer", "son-of-a... You really are a gay pervert!" and "i told you to stop... The fantasies stop when you touch me... is what i was trying to say" during and after the sex. He yells "what?!" when Sangtae tells him to put his thighs together too... He covers himself with his hands when Sangtae forcefully yanks his pants down, etc). No, the sex wasn't willing, yes he definitely was trying to hide his sexuality until Jinwoo just kept pushing and he gave in, i really think it's just an issue in comprehension with you, i don't mean that in a bad/harsh was as i know you don't speak english.

I think it's clear that I remain in my opinion, but I can certainly say that I do not want to justify all the moments with which he really fucked with Jinwoo. But I think that if he took this behavior with him, there will be a reason below .. And I think it will only be discovered by going ahead with the reading of the manhwa.
Maybe Jinwoo did something in the past .. I do not know.
I simply justify his fantasies (he has total permission to do them) and well, partly his character. I remain of the idea that, in reality, Sangtae is very sweet duh. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

I don't blame him for the fantasies either, just his flippant attitude towards Jinwoo's suffering and his overall lack of help. Not even just the lack of help, he makes things worse by taking advantage because Jinwoo makes him horny... You're right, reading the future updates will probably help as well.