i have this feeling that if it was hwi the one sleeping with someone else people wouldn’t have been so forgiving lol
considering all the comments I saw still calling out hwi for the first two chapters it wouldn’t be that strange rip
That’s another good point, I don’t think most ppl here knows or even cares about how dating works in korea -
I’m begging for hwi to not be too overwhelmed by his own feelings and give in to param that easily, param has so so so much more work to do to redeem himself, I feel u so much cause I think this is the manhwa that gives me more headaches between every other i had read until now
Maybe most of don't know how dating works in Korea, because most of us aren't Korean??? And Hwi did do some dumb shit to Param first two chapters or not. That doesn't make his actions less valid. He took advantage of the fact that Param's body was sensitive and that he was desperate for change (physically). And how are you going to be someone's sex partner, knowing that they like someone else, and then expect a date without the other person feeling conflicted? Judging by your pfp Imma just say you're probably biased.
From my point of view, Param didn't do anything wrong, but Taehyun is definitely an SOB. My main point is that I don't think Param is actively TRYING to play both men. Taehyun coerced Param and many other men into sex, just to leave them hanging. And Hwi took advantage of Param's sensitivity and gave him "lessons." They both did this knowingly and knew what they were trying to do. Param's relationship with Hwi is like friends with benefits. And that's why I don't think Param has an obvious crush on Hwi (yet). Param tells Hwi that he's caring and a really sweet guy, but never really compliments him on his looks outwardly. I just think Param's completely oblivious to the fact that Hwi likes him. That's why (right now at least) I can't really say that Param's playing with both of their feelings. Like it's not with knowing or malicious intent.
and to be clear the only thing hwi did was that blackmail thing that got lost in 2 chapters, he did wrong? of course but he never took advantage of param, they physical relationship was consensual from the start.
what I was saying indeed i find funny to still call out hwi for what he did in 2 chapters while we are at chapter 40 and he’s the only one who got a real and fast development, while han is a trash since chapter one and param still didn’t get his shit together
yeah, that’s it. I was already considering param move unfair and disrespectful towards hwi even without taking into account korean culture, if u analyze it it’s actually even worse. The author is korean so the dating culture they displaying is probably based on their own country, and we’ll, there’s nothing to add.
Now that I think about it that’s why I read many comments from kfans being really disappointed, makes even more sense now
I mean if I wanna get mad on param for what he did i’m free to get mad on him as much as I want, is it slut shaming? no, it isnt so let ppl think what they want omg
I think everyone is mad at Param because we all know we’re cheering for Hwi lol but there are also a few others out here who are literally calling Param a slut (which he isn’t) and saying he has done something “immorally wrong” by having sex with Han, which simply isn’t true. I think that’s what some people have an issue with - the folks who think having sex with others even though you’re not in a relationship is somehow morally wrong.
most comment I saw of people mad at param aren’t even calling him a slut or anything, I’m not mad at him cause I like hwi but cause he leaded him on, param is free to fuck whoever he wants, but in the moment he accepted to date hwi he simply shouldn’t have done it, official relationship or not it was disrespectful towards hwi feelings and his trust towards him, and for me this is not okay, let it be fiction or real life
I’m wondering what exactly you mean by saying “the moment he agreed to date Hwi” because I did not see such a moment ever? Hwi thought it himself that he simply asking Param out for a date and Param agreed to go out on a date with him on Sunday, but that doesn’t mean they’re dating. Unless you think “going out on a date” = “dating” then okay. I’m genuinely curious if this is a difference in dating cultures or some countries have different definitions of what dating means (I’m not arguing with you on anything! I’m simply curious).
I think this is a difference in views regarding relationship. From what I’ve been taught and experienced, if you’re not officially committed in a relationship and have not verbally confirmed with eachother we are now lovers or whatever you call it, you have no say in what the person you like does. I’ll feel really hurt and angry if the person I like goes to have sex with someone else, but I don’t have the right to go tell them that they shouldn’t have done that because we’re not dating and I can’t force them to pick me. They don’t owe me reciprocation of my feelings. I don’t find it disrespectful of my feelings at all because, if I was Hwi, I haven’t even confessed my feelings yet so how are they supposed to know I’m serious? I’ve only shown interest in them and someone else showed interest in them too so perhaps they’re still wavering. Just because I aggressively chase them doesn’t mean they have to consider my feelings and think about how I’d feel all the time. I’ll be sad as hell but I can only try harder to make them know I’m the best for them.
hwi question was “date me”, if they chose this wording in english trans sure it’s not a random choice, then param sent him a message right after to give him confirmation, call it dating call it going to a date u still take some sort of commitment with another person. And it’s an unwritten rule that if u accept to date someone even if it’s not official yet u not supposed to go screw around with other people. In my country there aren’t any strict dating rule but it’s to bare minimum to act with regards to the other person, in korea too where the story is set, if u someone asks u on a date that means they wanna get serious with u, it’s not something to take lightly, it’s a real commitment and if param feelings were still swinging u had to reject the date.
About Hwi he confessed already many times, in chapter 28 or something he literally told param he liked him, plus he sent him so many direct signals, param sure knew well about what hwi was feeling for him.
It’s important to put into account other people when u are not the only one involved, especially cause hwi wasn’t just a one night stand or a fuck buddy, him and param created a friendship bond, they intimate, they supposed to care about each other, so even if u have nothing official with that person, knowing their feelings for u, u supposed to at least respect and cherish those, especially after leading them on.
Also idk if the “aggressively chase” refers to hwi, but he was everything but aggressive until now, he always tried his best with param without pushing him (not like han did), param clearly leaded him on, while accepting his date or even before he never really been clear about how much his crush for han was still affecting him, until now their relationship was exclusive, so if param was still unsure he should have at least informed hwi about it, as being fair with someone u supposed to care about
Param stil has so much work to do in order to redeem himself, asking for a second chance to Hwi can be a start but honestly he should at least apologize to him, he made him suffer a lot and it feels like param isn’t realizing it at all. Last kr chapters we see param really down but it was more of a self pity, I feel he still didn’t realize the major victim of this whole situation was Hwi.
Also before starting an hypothetical relationship Param needs to COMMUNICATE, he needs to be clear about what happened between him and Han, cause for now everything is just hinted, and at least go to Han and draw a clear line between them. It would be already difficult cause they work in the same workplace, so drawing a line between them should be the bare minimum, especially cause Han now is convinced Param likes him. And it’s also important to try to gain Hwi trust back, cause if I was him a would be very insecure about a similar situation. Knowing Han and considering all the times he already took advantage of Param I wouldn’t be surprised if he would try it again, he already harassed him once at work so nothing guarantees he won’t try it again. We already saw that rejection doesn’t work with Han, but Param will need to stand against any kind of advances, cause until now param struggling or now always left Han the way to mess with him, and that’s another things that needs to change.
some here should really get hired to be param lawyers, u defend everything he does with so much passion like not even param himself does lmaoo
they really feel so legitimized to offend and make assumptions about u, they would do the same cause they real adult and if u wouldn’t u just an immature teenager.
If they think it’s okay good for them but I’m free to say that for me it’s not without being harassed by random people.
Also I saw how they love to pull the “slut shaming” card when most comments don’t even call him a slut or anything, just say he fucked up and shouldn’t have done what it did.
it’s quite concerning that so many ppl associate being adult with being selfish and don’t mind about others feelings. I’m almost 23 I admit I don’t have much experience with relationships but I’m the kind of person who feels bad to forget to say hi while entering a shop, I’m really emphatic with people around me so when I read comments like “shut up u would do the same” like no??? I wouldn’t ??? I would feel so freaking bad to do something like this to a person I care about and who care about me I feel sick just thinking about it.
It almost seems like being emotional and regard ppl around u is something stupid and pointless in adulthood but for me actually is the bare minimum, it’s literally common sense. And I know lot of people actually don’t give a shit even irl, I experienced it myself, but that’s nothing to be proud of tbh.
thank u ~ I never really cared about being in a relationship tbh, I saw my university friends going through it and they were always so frustrated rip
Exactly, being selfish is nothing to be proud of.
About Han he has really zero excuses, getting cheated on unfortunately is nothing uncommon, still it doesn’t give u the right to hurt others on purpose just because u suffered once in college.
Param was a victim of Han manipulation and pushy behavior until he gave up to him, that “whatever” was the worst thing he could have chosen, especially because he knew what he was doing was wrong, that he would have regretted it, that he liked hwi and than han was a piece of shit with him, still he just gave up on his own thoughts just because he was horny?
I don’t care if u are horny, u can still being caught up in the moment but param still followed han to his apartment with mostly clear mind, he had his time to go back on his steps but he still chose lust over his own and someone else feelings and that was wrong.
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I really thought it would take longer for param and hwi to get back together, idk how to feel, tbh I’m just happy to see hwi finally at ease after the past chapters.
Let me say param is very lucky to have hwi cause if he was someone else i dont think they would have given him a second chance so easily. Now param better draw a clear line between him and han without leaving things on hold, if he wants to stay with hwi it’s necessary for him to be clear with Han.
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THE NEW RAWS WERE SO UNEXPECTED I’M -
this is the link for the raws but they still didn’t upload it ,, https://tkor.cx/안티피티





someone has the raws of the new extras?
https://newtoki93.com/webtoon/91540/%ED%9A%8C%EC%82%AC%EC%9B%90-K%EC%9D%98-%EB%B9%84%EB%B0%80?stx=%ED%9A%8C%EC%82%AC%EC%9B%90