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Let them be. That's how they release their frustration besides ppl chaotic reaction shows how moving the piece....

Ikr????? PEOPLE ARE CALLING HIM AN ABUSER MY DUDE LIKE WHAT THE FREAKING DICKING FUCK =)))) When Param really gave him mixed signals just to screw another dude in the end. Like if you knew you like Han that much why did you step over the “sex buddies” boundaries my dude

YES the comment section is crazy, sometimes I feel like we don’t read the same thing at all, I even went to reread their first times and everything is consensual wtfff but then don’t say anything about han cause hE asKeD fOr CoNsEnt

Thank you. Thank you, really. This is everything ppl have to understand. It’s not about hating on Param or acting like semes are better or slut shaming. Param can fuck whoever he wants to, but he literally messed up deliberately all the signals he gave Hwi. Like I’m not saying to k!ll him for that but I don’t see a problem in being disappointed with what he did lmao

fr, the blackmail thing didn’t even come into act, it was more like a threat that got lost in 2 chapters or somethin? also I went to reread the first time param and hwi got intimate in the gym and despite the tension between them hwi the moment param asked him to wait he asked him if param wanted him to stop, there stil weren’t any kind of feelings involved but even if maybe a bit stretched it looked consensual.
Han is simply inexcusable?? It was easy for him asking for consent after forcing himself on param until a chapter ago, also all the shit he did until now? people seems so forgetful with him, but not with hwi lol double standards
I completely agree about param, if he was confused about his feelings towards them he could have take some time, also how he said one moment how he hated han for what he did to him and that he liked someone else but a moment later he just gave up to his last I get he was manipulated but it’s still a no for me

also han didn’t ask for consent at all when he took advantage of drunk param to kiss him, to just harass him at work some chapters later -
Even after this I feel hwi will struggle a lot to trust param again, like param himself slept with han despite having feelings for hwi, what will give hwi the security he won’t do it again. He deserved better

damn, that's kinda harsh but i agree lol

that was to sum up everything, I’m tired to write poems asjfkdcj

How they aren’t dating? He isn’t dedicated to hwi

Have everyone forgotten how hwi got param? He sexually harassed param and blackmailed him, hwi is no angel

I’m so tired of y’all really, hwi blackmailed param for two chapters at the very beginning, he did wrong yes, he never sexually harassed param, go and reread, hwi is the only one with a development here but if u feel quirky to shit over him after 40 chapters of him being one of the healthiest seme in bls go on I don’t care

he accepted to date him and leaded him on, param himself knew what he was doing was wrong and he would have regret it, just stop justify him, he fucked up deal with it

Well, i'm tired of everyone praising hwi to sky and condemming and slutshaming param for a mistake.
And if you don't think the scene during their first pt session is sexual assault then we'll continue to disagree, i don't care

no one here is slut shaming param, I’m praising who I think deserves my praise and if I think param fucked up for what he did then I’m free to say it, it’s called freedom of speech. Am I offending u personally? I don’t think so, if u don’t like what I write downvote or simply don’t read at all.
And yes, I still think it’s not sexual assault and i even went to reread it, if u just wanna fight go somewhere else and stop bashing me under my own comment, bye

I agree Han is trash but it’s not like Hwi never knew of his crush. Crushes don’t disappear out of thin air. Hopefully Hwi and Param end up together I’m rooting for them but param is not in the wrong

He accepted to go on a date which has not happened yet

he accepted to go on a date with a person who param knows has feelings for him. He leaded him on, then param himself told han he has feelings for hwi as well and that he hated what han did to him just to sleep with him ten mins later? Param went against his own clear will just to follow his lust and knew he would have regretted it, he fucked up, u don’t need an official relationship status to know that if a person likes u and u accept their feelings u are supposed to not go sleep with someone else the day after, that’s just common sense

Well if you didn't want a discussion why even post this or respond to me? (⊙…⊙ )
If you felt i was bashing you, then i apologise, not my intention. However, it's not like your respond was very politely written either?? And like i said, i'm tired of EVERYONE slut shaming, not spesific to you, sorry that you felt i was targeting you, again not my intention. Bye

it’s obviously not ok but he did like han for awhile and those feelings won’t go away just cause u found another dude ur more interested in he obvs will need to apologize to hwi tho

seems like y’all value others feelings lower than zero apparently lol

Yeah, it is still alright cause they're all grown adults and aren't dating. Of course Hwi has every right to be upset but Param still did nothing wrong plus Hwi knows that Han was trying to get Param.

Just because someone has a crush on you doesn't mean you can't have sex with others and just because you have a crush, doesn't mean you can't have sex with others as well.

I get it, but the moment he accepted to date hwi he had a commitment with him, call it official or not, if he was still unsure about his feelings he could have just took time and think about it, but he leaded hwi on just to fuck han the day after despite his mind telling him it was something he was gonna regret and that he already liked someone else, so he fucked up

again, stop going on with the “grown adults” excuse, param leaded on hwi, accepted to date him, if u accept to date someone U KNOW has feelings for u, it’s common sense and at least respectful for their feelings to not going to fuck with someone else the day after?
do y’all think other feelings matter nothing if it’s not something official then who cares? wtf
Param was free to fuck whoever he wanted if he didn’t accept hwi date, u can’t lead on someone and then betray their trust like this ??

I agree whole heartedly with your view on Han, 100% he’s a manipulative gaslighting bastard. In regards to my views on Param’s decisions, it wouldn’t matter figuring out if it’s right or wrong because there was nothing set or promised regardless so there is nothing substantial to base morals off of. Aka, there is no right or wrong. That’s just how it is. He agreed to a date, not exclusivity, and Hwi also knows very clearly that Param had feelings for Han, and is trying anyways because he likes Param. That’s why we all like Hwi, because he’s a good honest guy who’s trying to do things right. Oh, and about you mentioning you wanting to see us experiencing such a thing prior to commenting, I have, very much so, gone through having a crush who agreed to date me (exclusively mind you as I mentioned I only date exclusively and was open and honest from the beginning) only for them to have a sexual fling with someone else right before we officially went out for the first time. This type of thing is called adulting and it’s why people need to be open and clear in regards to their emotions because it doesn’t matter if you care or not, if you don’t speak up, you have no right to input your desires into the situation or take things personally when you were not fully clear about your wants and intentions. Sad reality because I think they can work out, and I’ve read the raws so I know what happens after Hwi finds out, but Param had no exclusive commitment to Hwi, he only agreed to go out on a date with him later in the week. Morally speaking, if Hwi wanted Param all to himself, instead of fucking him, and enjoying the present moment, he should’ve been clear and straightforward telling him he wants to date him, securing his future. And that’s the only thing that can be commented on morally besides Mr. Han who I want to shove down an elevator shaft for making us tops look like shitty people.

First of all, it's not an excuse it's a fact. I just re-read the chapter and Param agreed to having a date and not being in a relationship. Also, you're talking about caring about feelings when Hwi didn't even care about Params in the beginning; he basically used Params condition as an excuse to touch/have sex with him and knew Param was embarrassed about it...Hwi feelings also developed over jealous of Han, of course, they obviously grow more while spending time with Param but Hwi knew that Param had feelings for Han and that stuff would become sour; he's allowed to like and having sex with multiple people at once. He was literally having sex with Hwi while having feelings for a whole another man and no one complained then...everyone just saying it cause they don't like Han and are cheering for Hwi.

People are defending Param saying he can do whatever he wants but are forgetting the other parties’ feelings.

Sure Param can do whatever but that might lead to bad and hurt feeling from Hwi and Han.

I’m an adult myself, and I’m absolutely sure I would never do something like this to someone I care about. Despite param not having an official relationship with hwi, hwi still asked to date him, and more than once made clear to param that instead of pursuing han he could have just go with him, that he liked him, param knows about hwi feelings, there’s no way he doesn’t. In this case it’s simple to get that a person who likes u sure wouldn’t wish for u to go sleeping with someone else. And even if param had an on going crush on han he supposed to care about hwi, he even admits himself he likes him to han, and knew perfectly that he would have regret sleeping with han. So param himself knew what he was doing was wrong, I’m not slut shaming him or anything, but what he did wasn’t right towards hwi, it was disrespectful towards a person who he knows he was committed to him and who always cared for him and always gave him everything he needed.
Sure hwi knew about param crushing over han, but param never really talked clearly about it with him, hwi had no idea if and how much param was still infatuated with han, so of course he tried it all with param. And why param leaded him on if he was still confused about his feelings towards the two of them? Param was free to take his time to think about it like an adult without giving hwi hope and accepting his date, hwi sure wouldnt have forced him to accept it. Param couldn’t expect to get the best from both without hurting anyone

That’s just a contradictory response. So Param’s original feelings for Han should just get out-ruled by Hwi’s feelings? Why? Just because we, the readers, know who’s a piece of shit and who’s got genuinity means nothing in a situation that involves a mess of feelings from all three of the mentioned characters. Han is immature in his view, but maybe he does actually like Param in his own twisted way. Hwi knew he was filling a void for Param, yes he did suggest that he was all Param needed, but he gave him a choice in which he never asked for a due date or needed a response, he left it open and he did so because he knew that Param was still clinging to feelings in which you nor anyone else should expect someone to control or give up. I don’t care that they are fictional characters, I prefer the realistic plot of any story I read, and this just so happens to be exactly what makes a story great is the conflict between contrasting people and their wants/ needs. That’s all there is to it, there is no morality involved when each of them have their own agenda and own end goal, without clarifying what they want their final game play to be, which, in actuality, Param has been the most candid in his feelings out of the three of them so if you really want to stand their pointing blame at Param, then I guess you might as well just blame all three of them. Hwi for jumping head first into a mess he knew was gonna get even messier, getting involved with someone he knew wasn’t emotionally or romantically interested in him. Param for filling a void by using Hwi and still being unsure where he stood with someone he’s been holding feelings for without them being reciprocated, until now. Han for being a son of a bitch whose selfishness will hopefully be his undoing and a serious slap to the face.

Param was clear and honest from the get go. He had no intention of having sex with Hwi, that was Hwi’s decision and Param was coerced into it because he’s a horny dude. Also I don’t know any manwha or manga ever that has any intelligent character who’s like “for sure they like me, they just haven’t said it clearly yet” unless they are a deranged top, I mean, come on the oblivious nature IS the romance element of yaoi for fucks sakes.

Of course param’s original feelings for Mr. Han still matter. Param could have taken the time to make a decision and consider his feelings. But he didn’t, even though he knew both parties were interested in him.

Param has been anything but honest?? Heck he still isn’t being honest with Hwi （￣へ￣）He’s right up there with Mr. Han. Param just did what he wanted without a care to anyone else. Except now he has to deal with the consequences.

No morality? I’m not sure what world you are living in but whatever.

So now Hwi is just supposed to accept Param? By your own conviction Param has said nothing that would lead Hwi to believe he actually likes him.

not slut shaming but accept param fucked up, he knows it, we knows it, deal with it. Amen

the bar is still in the ground i see

for real, near the center of earth

pretty close to it

P r e a c h
Plus did everyone magically forget they fcked on the cold ass hard floor?? Like Han the "gentleman" couldn't even do param the courtesy of doing him on a bed,cmon ppl

FOR REAL he didn’t even ask if he was comfortable or somethin, just “wHaT dO u LiKe AbOuT Me” stfu trash

HONESTLY!!