The last story was my favorite, it fuckin slayed me. My dirty soul was purified. The 1st story was really hot, that scenario is one of my fantasies and the way they were both taking advantage of the porn to look at each other horny felt realistic to me. They felt so relatable. ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
He was undoubtedly an asshole at first, but i think it wasn't in an intentional way and he ended up being just fine once he learned what was and wasn't okay. It's like, rather than an intentional asshole, he's more of an airhead? Which is better, to me at least. He's just very dependent on the uke and doesn't seem to understand some of the social graces. They were like a married couple with the husband being super dense, which i thought was cute. The uke was like a dutifull housewife taking care of his airhead husband. The seme said he was still seeing callgirls even after the uke confessed (he said that chick was the 2nd. Note that it isn't until that guy calls him a sleezebag for sleeping around that he realizes what he's doing is considered a betrayal to the uke's feelings, then he feels guilty thinking about it), which makes you think he's JUST cheating, but then it goes on to show that he seems to be sexually frustrated and he's not sure how strongly the uke really feels about him since he's the only one who seems to want to progress their relationship. He feels strongly enough about this that he gets irritated and tries to make the uke jealous by saying he slept with her to get a rise even though he didn't actually sleep with her. Was it a dick move? Yes. But his intentions in that lie were to try and move them forward. You have to keep in mind that it was really the seme who brought them together, the uke was just going to try and stay as friends. Don't get me wrong, the uke put in plenty of effort just staying with him for years and confessing, but he became a problem to their progression and it was the seme's efforts that really made them a couple once the uke confessed.
Good analysis!!
Thank you (⌒▽⌒)
Now where is my story about Jin?
Side note: Shin was highkey rapey, but the aggression was hot and they didn't have sex till Daigo loved him back, so i guess it's okay? I've seen how Shin loves, now i'd like to see how Jin falls in love.
Honestly, i'm on your side as far as the bullying goes, but for you to put a page into the translation literally only about an argument you had with a rando who was being an asshole is pretty... Unprofessional? I know it's not literally your profession, but i think i'm getting the point across. It looks kind of cringy. I started reading ch 4 and stopped to write this because i saw that page.
Now it’s regulation on pages they want to put addrsssing naysayers? And it’s not one random, there’s a few of them I’ve seen the same persons that are barking at them each update seems like. They get flack for replying on mangago, now it’s a problem if they do it on their own release? Sheesh
Have you ever seen any other translators do this? I haven't, hence me specifically saying "unprofessional".
Lol unprofessional! This isn't a job its a hobby. The page was very vague so if the shoe fit! Also that's because most people will lay there and take it if someone whines, but there are also those who clap back. I have read 100s of mangas where the scans work is just AWEFUL but i don't complaint because I'm not in the right to do so. If i want to fix it i will scans it myself.
Lol YES! I have seen other scan groups do it. I’ve read on tumblr where scan groups say explicitly “FUCK YOU” to readers that talk shit to them. And tell readers “We don’t give a fuck.” You may only be on Mangago, but there’s a thing called Tumblr, and it’s gotten crazy before on there. This is mild. Super duper mild.
“unprofessional” compared to what? Who sets these standards? who chooses? who are they to choose? since when do scan groups hafta follow a “norm” and do what other scan groups do? who are u to make the rules and say what should and shouldn’t be done? It’s all illegal! rules been broken from day 1, lol
You're going on a tangent, no one said anything that even sounds like those guys have any right to complain rather than leave constructive criticism. I also specifically said "i know it's not literally your profession", so you're just repeating what i said back to me. The point i was making is that translators have a certain set of rules they stick to and a level of grace in what they do. That page lacks these qualities. I don't see translators arguing in the comments section and i've NEVER seen a translator put a page like that in their translation.
Sure, within their groups, but not within their translations... I had specifically said "i've never seen a translator do this before". What is "this"? Inserting a page as a passive aggressive jab at the comments section WITHIN their translation.
The translators all have rules they follow and usually maintain a certain level of grace while translating. Not willing to argue that with you, i've seen plenty of scanlation groups argue over the rules and i've NEVER seen a translator do what she did.
I wish people could understand this :/ it’s 2018 I guess and people get insulted over colored pages
How old are these kids
Should they be allowed to be on internet p?
Oh? Where are these rules? I’ve been out of the scanlation world for 1.5 years. This is new, do tell. & I’m not going to argue with you about grace, because that’s all opinion & through each individuals perspective
I don't have an issue with the colored pages, they have nothing to do with anything being discussed under my topic.
Constructive criticism means buying the original work
I dislike it when people say that their own preferences which only applies to them, is called constructive criticism
Constructive criticism is constructive criticism, if you're just telling them how you think it could be done better with no ill intent, it's constructive criticism. Shitting on the colored pages isn't constructive criticism.
Nuh uh. Seen this on tumblr. exiled reb Scans just said basically eff you to readers a few weeks ago because someone complained about the lettering of the story on a release. I’ve seen nijiniji do it, Fujoshi bitches, and more talk smack back to asshole complaining readers. Heck if we could post pics on here I’d show yer. It’s public on tumblr. So it’s done, just cuz u don’t see it, doesn’t mean it isn’t out there.
so Ppl tell the group it’s “unprofessional” to respond on Mangago in comments section. When they address it on the page of their own release, they’re told it’s “unprofessional” to do that too. Haha!!, you all are ridiculous and full of yourselves. Now you have no validity in my eyes, utterly ridiculous
Talk to some groups to find out how they do things, i'm just saying this from the perspective of a reader who has seen groups argue in the mangago comments section about how the other group is being disrespectful for -insert reason- (one off the top of my head is picking up a translation that another group is doing. Another is using someone else's translation/not crediting work). There are plenty of rules that'll get other groups pissed off at you. I never see translators arguing with readers in the comments section, there were actually a lot of comments awhile back about how she should've just ignored them or at the very least not got as into the argument as she did. One from another translator. I don't ever see translators cluttering their translations with unnecessary things either.
Yes, within their group on tumblr, we went over this. I said and have been saying specifically "within the translation", if you can cite some pages that other groups have left in their translations, feel free. You're dodging the issue i'm actually talking about and bringing up something else.
But doesn’t it? The group is responding to the ppl that have an issue with the colour pages. And your remark is about them addressing those ppl. So it all ties together.... ...Try addressing the ppl that are whining first. There’s a cause &..effect.
I don't agree that it was a problem that she responded at all, though the fact that she sat there arguing and cursing is unprofessional, yes. So is the act of her continuing this argument with a jab that she placed within her translation.
If she wanted to retort, that would've been fine, but this has been going on for awhile with her being an active participant in the argument.
U saying “Within their group” is misleading. Be it public on tumblr addressing readers or on the release, does it matter? It’s still addressing us readers right? You act like the release is published work you subscribed & paid for, like there’s a rule ,,,SHOW ME,,,, that says it’s not allowed to be done. Or even an unspoken rule. Where is it? But anyway..Who cares? Scroll past the page. Get over it. Why can’t the group let the masses know they’re unfazed & will continue to do what they’re doing?
No, it doesn't. The colored pages weren't mentioned as i have no issue with them. The colored pages are also entirely irrelevant to what i'm discussing, that being whether or not it was professional to post that jab page within the translation.
Where are the rules? You’re talking about common courtesy among scan groups to each other. What rule says a scan group can’t post what credit page or announcement they want?
How does what a group post for their announcement affect another scan group? You’re just making things up now, and those are COMPLETELY different scenarios. Scan groups arguing over a title/story & a scan group doing their own announcement that has no influence or effect on another group have no correlation. Stop mixing things up to meet your vague & shabby point.
So when jabbed initially the group should just take the pokes and not poke back? Blah blah, Balogne!
Within the translation is no place to be arguing with the comments section (not "addressing the readers", lets not sugarcoat exactly what that page was there for)... Idrc if you agree with me on that as it's obviously unprofessional.
Are you going to cite even a single example of another scan group doing what Ryoko Nicole just did? As far as "where is the unspoken rule", i've already said that i've never seen another translator post a jab page like that within their translation, the fact that there are no other examples is proof of the unspoken rule. The next natural step here is one YOU have to take, go prove me wrong by finding a page like Ryoko Nicole's.
No, if you've read my responses i've said that her retorting isn't the issue, it's how long she sat there arguing with the comments section before posting that jab page.
It’s not constructive criticism
Constructive criticism is constructive, not rude
+ also I guess I should be apologizing for my reply to the other topic, I guess I misunderstood something
My topic is specifically about whether or not it was professional of her to post that jab page. Not even whether or not it was, it just was. That's like if i worked at taco bell and wrote "fuck you -insert name-" on the glass because they pissed me off and i knew they'd see it...
But I don’t really agree with you
Because one person with a lot of accounts is harassing the scanlation and it still goes on
The team can’t just stay and watch calmly when they’re obviously insulted by an immature kid who keeps harassing the group and anyone with a different opinion
Yeah, they were rude to Ryoko Nicole, i also said that wasn't constructive criticism and if you look at this topic i also say "Ryoko Nicole. Honestly, i'm on your side as far as the bullying".
Besides that, why don’t everyone try to understand they’re doing it, illegally and use their money ( despite all the hard work and effort they put in their work)for you to read it for free
If you want to criticize, just do it, but there’s no ‘must’
They already argued though, you think it makes sense for them to just keep going? Everytime that anon shitposts? Say something and be done, don't keep arguing, it makes a scene. I don't ever see translators argue in the comments section like this.
Like, they’re even harassing people who have different opinions, let alone the team
I think this person or as she/he mentioned, *these people* really should stop because this is getting annoying
Even if their criticism was constructive, what’s the point of being rude to people who haven’t done anything to him/her and whining on every comment section?
Yes, i agree. That isn't what anyone here is arguing. I agree that constructive criticism is fine, but being ungrateful isn't. We're in agreement. You're actually talking about other things. I'm trying to say that nicely.
People have different reactions I guess
But I don’t think it matters if they stop or not, whoever this person is, they’re probably looking for attention
That's not how reality works, it's considered immature and unsightly to keep an argument going like that.
So sexy~ ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
We all need someone confident who talks dirty like that. Tatoo was sexy too~
I think he's a hardened hitman so he's socially awkward and only knows how to take by force, but was stalking the mc even before all this because he likes him. Why would he pay attention to an intimate detail like "he needs someone next to him to fall asleep while sick"? Hardly seems useful for killing, though i guess he just said he likes to whisper information like that to his targets to creep them out and make them panic. I think that "don't try to run" might have been his way of trying to forcefully keep him near.
Strange, looks like ch 3 and 4 won't load for me. There is just a little bar that sits there in the middle-top of the page forever.
He wanted their first time to be special, and while he egged the seme on with his "anyone would've done" speech, it doesn't justify the blatant rape. Hard to root for the seme at this point, tbh. I know their circumstances are pretty heavy though, the seme just lost his shit because his years-long crush just said he'd been looking for literally anyone to throw his virginity away to as long as it's casual. He lost his shit, but it's just not okay... Hopefully i can like him soon, i guess he's going to save the uke?
All of this is going down this way because of the lie. Youngmin thinks he got drunk and asked for it, so that's what he told Jungwoo. Not "i was raped", "i got drunk and had sex with another man"... two entirely different meanings. Jungwoo thinks Youngmin must've wanted it as, even drunk, why sleep with someone else if you're really in love? Basically, this is still all of the professor's fault. Yes, Youngmin didn't handle the situation well, but that's just because he was acting within the limitations set by the professor's lie. Once Youngmin or Jungwoo finds out he was raped, things'll go back to normal as being raped isn't the same as drunk consensual sex and Jungwoo'll support him. I wish Youngmin would explain that he literally woke up being fucked and doesn't remember consenting, he even immediately freaked out and pushed the professor off him and left.
On a side note: the more i see them hurting unnecessarily, the more i can't wait for the professor to get what's coming to him. I know what happens to him, and i don't wish gangrape on anyone, even him, but i'm starting to find myself caring less and less about knowing it's going to happen. ╮(￣▽￣)╭