It's SUPER cliche, but really well presented. The pacing and facial expressions were great.
-piano starts playing- Everyday~ I imagine a future where i can be with you~ In my hand~ is a pen that will write a poem of me an you~ The ink flows down into a dark puddle~ just move your hand~ write the way into his heart~
He isn't dead and is even in a better place~ Whew~ That was a huge weight on me the entire time. I love how this manga makes you THINK there're issues only for it to be revealed that there actually isn't one. It's refreshing. The usual take is--> introduce hurdle-->mc's overcome hurdle.
Can we get him a man too?! Let's get him out of our mc's way and into his own loving relationship where he can finally stop obsessing over them. Despite his creepiness, i really DO want to see some character development from him and for him to move on to someone else.
Just don't put him with Jiho. lol But I agree. I know some obsessive types irl. They are usually emotionally unstable (usually due to upbringing) and looking for someone to fill a hole (not in a dirty way). This dude probably needs therapy of some sort, but he could also use a "heart" of his own.
There are actually people trying to make it seem like Alex has been acting reasonably and basing this on that he is just in a friends with benefits(FWB) relationship with DG... Literally no one is angry at Alex for not going out of his way to be caring, we are angry at Alex for his lack of even a bare minimum standard of human decency. Do you see the difference? Most people are saying "i can't believe he did this!", holding him accountable for his many shitty interactions with DG rather than saying "i hate him because he didn't cuddle with him and make him breakfast after taking his virginity!", no one with normal reasoning skills expects him to be extra with DG, we're just acknowledging that he hasn't done the bare minimum. Foreplay and preparation are an important part of sex, for both sides, Alex skipped this so he could enter quicker. Now, while DOING foreplay isn't some "you're such a good person" indicator, NOT doing it (especially on a virgin) despite knowing you need to makes you a bad person. It is just an inherently bad thing to choose not to do. Same with the attitude/condescension, they are FWB, but that doesn't mean he is okay to talk to DG in the way he does. He literally gives DG the option to be his sex slave as an ultimatum, "drink now and agree to let me fuck you when and where i want or lose out on being fucked by me while i find someone else. Also, don't expect me to treat you like a boyfriend.". This is said so harshly and is just plain bad behavior, to act like it isn't is ignoring reality. Once again, the issue here isn't that he isn't treating DG like a boyfriend, it's that he isn't treating DG right even by the standards of having sex with a stranger...
Do you thing evey single person in this world have good, pleasant sex? No. Sometimes your ass does not receive the love it deserves. That happens, more than you all think. Life is not a Bl fluffy manga. And i find that sex scene at least realistic. Alex doesn't give a fuck and DG is a virgin who doesn't knows how to act at that point. Really, it happens a lot.
That is what I find interesting, that the author portrays a realistic sex scene, although not the most desirable, which coincides with the construction of characters.
You stating that there're shitty people out there that would treat people the way Alex treats DG isn't an argument to what i said... It doesn't change the fact that Alex was being an asshole. You just acknowledged the issue and placed it as an argument.
Also, what makes this sex scene more "realistic" than if Alex HADN'T been a total cunt? You do realize that the majority of sex happens with consent, right?
There're people who do all sorts of bad things, that doesn't make those instances any less bad... A lot of people kill, rape, abuse, etc and they are still placed on the news because, despite their frequency, they are still bad actions.
Yeah. Consent doesn't mean that the other person take good care of you. That scene was consented. I think is really naif to pretend everyone to be kind and care about his partner. Maybe we both are talking based on really different life's experiences. You are lucky if you never had to go through something like that . I didn't mean to disqualify your oppinion, sorry for that.
Again, your point is irrelevant.
I realize that people don't always treat people right, but i will still call an asshole when i see one...
When did i "pretend all instances are pleasant", that is a strawman.
Ok friend. Maybe we could discuss a little more when you grow up. Have a good life!
Lol, come back when you have anything worth arguing! I'll be right here ;^)
I think the consensus should be "Yes, Alex was an asshole" and "We accept this development in order to find out what happens next in the story, hoping Alex's deplorable behaviour meets its fair share of karma"
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Yes, exactly! Rather than "No, DG is doing it to himself by staying with Alex and somehow DG's choice to stay makes everything Alex has done reasonable because they're FWB". These comments are ridiculous and you can totally tell that they're letting Alex's hottness effect their opinion... It just drops all reasoning out the window, from that same perspective you can see that DG is also FWB with Alex, but doesn't treat him like shit so why should Alex being FWB with DG justify his shitty attitude? I'm looking forward to some karma and hopefully redemption.
That sex scene was fucking disgusting... There was SO little care... Alex is STILL treating him like he should feel lucky just to be fucked by him, to the point that he purposely skipped on preping his ass just so that he could insert faster. The prep only came AFTER the kick and it's not like he took his time preping him either, it was just "one finger, two fingers, penis" in the span of like 5 seconds... Don't get me wrong, Alex was sexy as sin, but i'm finding it harder and harder to care anymore.
true that
Right there with you
I meant to mention how he left before he woke up too... It really frustrates me that he did that, i get that as FWB Alex doesn't need to cuddle after sex or make him breakfast or anything like that, but he should have at the least made sure he was okay in the morning and that he knew how to clean himself. It's a matter of decency, making sure he's okay after losing his virginity isn't anything extra, he should've been there.
The art is over the top pretty, kinda like the comedy sketches you sometimes see in manga where the person will be drawn normally the entire time and then another character will talk about a "beautiful person in -insert setting" which will lead to the character joking saying "could they be talking about me?" with an over the top drawn face and sparkles in their eyes, but constant. The plot isn't anything new, neither is the tried and true obstacle of "we can't date because i'm saying you're straight". It's just... Okay.
I wanted Ioroi to bottom! I had been expecting him to top so i was pleasantly surprised when it looked like he'd bottom... I guess it'll be hot seeing Ioroi get him out of his "straight guy" mindset so he can fuck him though... Hmm... I just hope he doesn't start acting like an uke now that it's been made known that Ioroi wants to top him. Also, seke please if Ioroi is going to top! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
I think the whole POINT was to make it sudden... Not because they didn't have time or whatever. There was definitely foreshadowing about Ayumi's mental state, it's just that the manga didn't put emphasis on it. The goldfish thing was foreshadowing, the having no friends thing was foreshadowing, him liking to watch Chiaki's emotions was foreshadowing. The story was written in a way that sweeps Ayumi under the rug, the main focus is on Chiaki, but if you think about it, the story has painted Ayumi as a lordling who feels no emotional attachment to even people who he spends time with every day and who wants things others have to the point of wanting to take it from them without any remorse for how they might feel(he recounts the goldfish tale and still shows irritation that he couldn't have it, even though he saw the kid looking happy that he got it.), all while coming across normal to those around him. He's a sociopath. This was really well portrayed through the 180, Chiaki woke up expecting things to be normal because Ayumi passes as normal, they had been interacting with no issues, so aside from the questionable moments he had no reason to expect what was coming, hence the "is this a joke? Are you serious?" dialogue. When Chiaki says "i can't get through to him" he is pointing out that in Ayumi's head he isn't doing anything wrong, he just doesn't get it. "What's wrong with holding on to something you like"? You get it? Ayumi has been a sociopath this entire time, it was clearly foreshadowed, but told in a way that made you put it on the backburner as "thats weird, but whatever" while you were distracted by Chiaki and Ayumi's love story.
Except for the fact that I do think Chiaki was aware on some level this is a completely awesome summarization of events. Not that Chiaki being aware makes what Ayumi is doing acceptable in any way. I'm just saying that he might have been aware, which has nothing to do with whether he consented or not to anything.
The reason I think he's aware is because, as someone else said, Chiaki said at one point that he wanted to see Ayumi's desperate face.
I actually agree with you on this, to an extent. I think Chiaki is very intuitive, i think he can tell that Ayumi is... Disconnected... But i don't think he knew to what extent till now.
Agreed.
I get what you're saying but since this is still connected to the Kirakira fuzzy couple i think it deserved a bit more to get the readers prepared. Same world but vast tonal differences are hard to adjust to.
For example Rouge and the spin off. The couples are very different and the level of conflict is highr too in the spin off, but the overall tone was kept the same.
I'm not really sure what to say to this other than that i don't, personally, agree. I don't think manga within the same world need to have the same tone as i personally take each story as they come, finding out a story is connected to another i've read is just a cool little plus. Honestly, this is objectively not realistic as well, if you think about it there are just so many different types of stories to be heard regardless of where you live, if we're talking irl, or what you're reading. There're many book series in the same world that aren't the same, it's a very common thing. Besides, if they all had the same tone just because they were in the same world how would we differentiate? It'd all be the same thing. How would we choose which was best? And once we did, wouldn't that mean that all the other books were objectively worse in your eyes since you looked and decided that one was better? Reality doesn't work like this, people write their stories with the intent to leave an impact and for that they need individuality.