It doesn't feel like Subin's feelings for Hyunwoo were at all handled or concluded. Don't get me wrong, i have no issues with Subin X Hyung or Subin X anyone for that matter, as long as everyone is happy, but it doesn't feel like anyone is happy. Subin still seems hung up on Hyunwoo and even looked miserable choosing Hyung, Hyunwoo finally admitted his feelings for Subin only to be left alone and without a best friend and Hyung seems just as insecure in their relationship as ever... Do people realize how much Subin and Hyunwoo lose out on going down the Hyung route? Subin is literally planning on never seeing Hyunwoo again, and he isn't okay with it either. Neither is Hyunwoo. They were best friends for YEARS, it must be like losing an arm. Honestly, the fact that Subin can't face Hyunwoo anymore to the point of needing to cut ties with him entirely for his relationship with Hyung to work is just plain worrying. He literally can't trust himself to be involved to even a casual degree with Hyunwoo and is forcing himself to choose Hyung. I feel like he would've been happier with Hyunwoo, sorry not sorry? He had to let go of a really important person in his life, someone who's presence he'd taken for granted would always be there. I mentioned this in a previous post as well, but i'm really irritated with the state of the Subin X Hyunwoo route too... Subin was pushing SO hard and when his efforts FINALLY bore fruit he had already decided to run away from Hyunwoo, and yes, it was FOR SURE running away in the beginning and in my opinion it is still running away. Hyunwoo had FINALLY been forced to admit his growing feelings, it was a YEARS long build up with Subin fighting hard the entire time only for him to not give Hyunwoo a shot when he'd finally succeeded. Idk, just dissatisfied.
I see why you'd be concerned about that but in the end I think Subin chose Hyung because he knew he was better for him. Subin keeps saying that he wants to grow up and start a new life. Hyung is definitely the right choice for that. It is really sad that he and Hyunwoo can't have the relationship they used to but there's probably just too many hurt feelings between them. Although Hyung's jealousy and insecurity is a problem and is also probably at least partially why Subin and Hyunwoo can't be friends anymore. I don't think it would have worked regardless. Subin did run away from Hyunwoo but Hyunwoo is the one who ran away first. It's the old phrase you don't know what you got until it's gone. ╥﹏╥. Anyway Hyunwoo is probably gonna end up with Noona's boyfriend (that'll be super cute to watch), and maybe we'll get to see him fix his friendship with Subin one day when they're both happy and more mature...
At the every least they should've gotten closure. I'd like to know what Subin would have done if Hyunwoo gave a clear confession and said stay with me (desperately). Would he still choose Hyung? We'll never know. ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍
That's what is sad too, i think if he had they would've been happier :^( Sure, Hyung would've been sad, but they've been together for less than a year, so i feel like Hyung would've moved on quicker than its going to take either Subin or Hyunwoo to move on from losing that important person in their lives.
I agree to an extent. Part of the reason Subin is choosing Hyung is because he's serious about his love. He tells him straight out that he loves him and wants him to stay and he makes Subin feel that love which is something he desperately needs(tbh that's an amazing feeling and I could use some of that right now). Hyunwoo on the other hand isn't capable of that. Even when the stakes were at their highest and Subin is saying goodbye Hyunwoo still can't tell him he loves him (even though Subin was able to say it loads of times). Hyunwoo just isn't right for Subin even though they do both love each other. Besides Subin says it himself in ch 41, even if someone else did love him as much as Hyung did he's not sure if that would if it would give him the same depth of feeling as Hyung's love (≧∀≦) I think that means Hyunwoo too.
and here I am watching everyone blaming the "new" boyfirand for Hyunwoo shit and abuse acts. Hynwoo got what he daserve, really! and he know's it.
look, I think that if you had a boyfriend you won't want him to go see his ex girlfriend that you know he still have feelings for and he will never forget about her. since she was his "first" love! it only natural or the opposite too. guys do tend to be possive.
baside Hyunwoo fuck their so called "friendship" by disappearing for like a year or two years, I don't remember anymore. and then when he come back, the asshole abuse him nonstop until the point he have to run away from his own home!
fuck Hyunwoo, he ruin everything in this so called Relationship. and I"m glad the mc didn't stay in abusing Relationship like most yaoi do.
Yes, I also agree. I like Jun a lot, but Subin isn't good for him. It's not going to last as long as Subin doesn't mature and Jun doesn't get over his insecurities. I know we were all getting fed up with the drama, but it wasn't time to end this story. Both relationships needed more time to grow, and so did the characters. Imo Subin should have broken it off with Hyung and focused on just growing as his own person. Only then would he be ready to start dating, with whoever that may be.
I really respect that you came at me with your opinion in defence of Hyung, you weren't afraid to put it all out there. I really want you to understand that i LOVE Hyung and don't blame him for anything, if anything i blame Hyunwoo and Subin for not communicating and for the denial. So, you understood that was all about Hyunwoo just being an asshole? From what i understood, all of Hyunwoo's asshole moments were just denial towards his feelings. Hyunwoo and Subin were originally just close friends, Hyunwoo has always identified as straight so it seemed as though it really shook Hyunwoo when Subin confessed and he started to look at Subin in that way. Hyunwoo had to enlist in the military at some point anyway, so he jumped on that opportunity to put some space between himself and Subin. Hyunwoo comes back with the hopes that the time apart had reset their relationship and that they both no longer had feelings for each other, but this is quickly proven to be false hope when he sees how much it hurt Subin that he left when Subin gets drunk and comes onto him again which eventually results in them having sex. At the earlier stages of the story, Hyunwoo is still severely in denial, he's a straight guy who doesn't want to be gay and is starting to realize he has attraction towards his male best friend, it makes him really uncomfortable so he deals with it by ignoring it and putting all his effort into pretending he has a crush on that noona. Naturally, when Subin gets drunk and comes onto Hyunwoo, he freaks out because he's sure he's straight, doesn't want to be gay, but still reacts to Subin so he punches Subin when Subin gets drunk and kisses him. Something i noticed is that if you pay attention to the interactions between the trio of friends, Subin/Hyunwoo/red head, you'll notice that they're all very rough with each other both physically and verbally and that the red head never bats an eye when Hyunwoo uses physical force to keep Subin away. I think this is because, to the three of them at least, this response is within an acceptable range. I don't think Hyunwoo was trying to be overly(i make the distinction 'overly' here, because i DO think he was trying to be harsh enough that Subin got the memo) cruel or hurt Subin with his rejections, i think he was just trying to make it clear that he was uncomfortable. He was trying to see if, if he just rejected Subin, would it all go back to normal and would his gay feelings go away? But he ended up giving in momentarily that night and had sex with Subin. Now, while he DID have sex with Subin, he was NOT ready to face all that he had been denying for years, so he lied, ran and then lied again about liking noona. Time passes with Subin getting increasingly hurt after thinking he'd had sex with Hyunwoo only to be told by Hyunwoo that it was a wet dream and then being forced to watch Hyunwoo choose noona over him multiple times, unbeknownst to Subin that this was because the sex had freaked Hyunwoo out to the max and he was desperately trying to convince himself he is 100% straight, when Hyung swoops in and comforts Subin after the disappointment of "finding out" that the sex was "just a dream". Subin eventually can't stand the weight of his feelings for Hyunwoo anymore so he goes to stay with Hyung, resulting in Hyung growing an attachment while Subin just angsts over Hyunwoo the entire time. Eventually, through much self reflection and communication with noona and the blondie, Hyunwoo is finally ready to admit his feelings for Subin so he tells Subin he wants him back and confesses which results in Subin getting scared and running back to Hyung only for Hyung to tell him to get out because he'd spent the night at Hyunwoo's which is a huge insecurity for him as he can see Subin still has feelings for Hyunwoo and he knows Subin has just been using him as a place to stay away from Hyunwoo. Hyung ends up deciding that he just wants Subin back, no matter what, which results in the drunken sex night followed by them getting back together. What rubs me the wrong way about this part is that Subin is still running away from Hyunwoo and had even been thinking that he'd have to leave Hyung at some point as well as that he won't love Hyung how Hyung loves him, but when Hyung makes it clear that he just loves Subin and just wants to be with him, Subin is attracted to HYUNG's love FOR HIM, he doesn't have feelings for Hyung and has made that clear. He only started acting lovey-dovey with Hyung after Hyunwoo's confession. It looked like he was trying to comfort himself in Hyung's love rather than face Hyunwoo. Fast forward and after more conversation with noona and the blondie, Hyunwoo is told he's "being selfish", Hyunwoo knows he's hurt Subin already so he doesn't want to hurt him anymore, this results in him deciding to quietly fume about his now acknowledged feelings for Subin rather than to pursue Subin. That is what he is always talking about with noona and the blondie, whether or not it's okay for him to love and confess to Subin after all the rejection he dished out previously and despite Subin having a boyfriend. He decides to leave Subin alone, which as is crystal clear just hurts both of them. If Hyunwoo had just taken the plunge they for sure would've been together and while yes, Hyung would've been sad, Hyung isn't exactly doing great being with Subin anyways... He's just willing to be with Subin even knowing Subin has no feelings for him aside from liking how much he is liked by Hyung. Even just now, Subin was hoping Hyunwoo would chase after him. He wants Hyunwoo, Hyung isn't dear in Subin's heart yet, he's a rebound that takes a little of the edge off his heartbreak towards Hyunwoo. What i was saying in my post was that, even putting romantic feelings aside, both Subin and Hyunwoo are losing out on a best friend. It's just an overall sad ending.
YES! This is exactly how i feel as well! Now was NOT the time to finish the story and they definitely needed closure, as it is now they're leaving everything as is between Hyunwoo and Subin with Hyunwoo quietly angsting over his feelings for Subin and Subin quietly wishing Hyunwoo would chase him... The worst part is, Hyunwoo WANTS to confess! He is only keeping quiet because he was told he's being selfish by noona, even though she sais "but, love is selfish", and he knows he hurt Subin with the rejections previously. All this paired with his knowledge that Subin is already in a relationship forces him to remain on the sidelines. If he would just take action they would for sure be together... And then Hyung would understand that Subin's love for Hyunwoo is just on another tier than the pleasure Subin feels at knowing Hyung loves Subin. Subin doesn't have feelings for Hyung, he likes that Hyung loves him.
you didn't mantion how he, Hyunwoo, treat him like a slave after he come back, order him around and basicully kind of abuse him in words and not only Physically. even if he is in daniel, is that a reason to treat someone else has your slave? nope, it dosn't.
and I think Hyunwoo know his friend feelings of love for him from high school, since Subin wasn't that good at lying anyway from the start. he just choose to ignore them until Subin told him. and then he just run away without a word, some "friend" he was. I don't remember how much time, but in normal life you would have find a new love by now.
the fact that Subin was willing to suffer his attitude was annoying enough.
and I say it now, Hyung wasn't planing on end up with him. like at first he said himself "oh this guy is cute I guess" and that's it. but Subin was the one who ask to stay with him, use him has a way to forget his "first love" and in the end of the road did full in love with him. like he said to him, don't remember which chapter it was. I don't think he lie when he said he did love Hyung. but...again Hyunwoo was his first love, so the love to Hyung will never be the same has his first love. so he can't never forget his first love that easily, it will take him much more time. and unlike Hyunwoo that kept pushing him and order him "come back home! now!!", Hyung was ready to give him space and give up on him until he become drank from saddenss he didn't think he would feel after Subin left. that's why they told Hyunwoo he was selfish! and I say even more, he was Abusive while playing with Subin feelings, he still wanted Subin around cause...well he wanted it, so it have to be like this. that what I hated in Hyunwoo the most.
besides Hyung did know he was been used and still let Subin take out his feelings, cause he know he was hurt. while trying to keep his distance. cause he was so much more kind and much warmer then Hyunwoo. yeas he had his bad moments, but show me a human been that don't have bad moments? XD yap.
has for "Subin and Hyunwoo are losing out on a best friend" - they lost that long ago after Hyunwoo dacided to just disappear. yeas some things could never be fix, that's how it is. and maybe it never meant to be fix. I don't think they ever were real "friends" either, both were too busy keeping their their real feelings until it blow up.
No one is arguing that Hyung doesn't treat Subin well, we all agree on that, the issue is on Subin's side. Subin is still in love with Hyunwoo and that is obvious enough that Hyung sees it and doesn't want Subin to meet with Hyunwoo because he knows Hyunwoo could take Subin from him. This is not a bad thing on Hyung's part, he is completely justified in his jealousy, the reason i bring this up is because it should show you how stressful Hyung's relationship with Subin is. The relationship is hurting Hyung and it will continue to till Subin is in love with Hyung. Hyung knows he's the rebound, that is why he is so jealous of Hyunwoo and doesn't want Subin to meet with him. As far as Hyunwoo telling Subin to "come back now", that's because they're roommates and Subin was being difficult to the point of ignoring his texts/calls... He wasn't being abusive, he was worried about his friend because he hadn't heard from him, he talks about this with the red head... I hope this doesn't sound rude, but you seem really biased on this, to the point that you ignore dialogue in the manga that definitely goes against your narrative. Idk, maybe you just forgot?
the point I was trying to make is that Subin will never forget his first love, has crual it might be to hyung. this is a relationship they both wanted to keep knowing this and accapt it has it is, knowing that it will never be like "what if" Subin come back to his "first" perfect love. and I think it's okay, it fine this way. who said he have to forget everything and come to relationship clean with no old love's? every relationship is stressful. I think what was is very good in this story is what you willing to compromise with all the advantages and disadvantages. in the end of the day, whatever Subin would have choose would have advantages and disadvantages. to me has a reader, I preffer supportive relationship.
Hyunwoo was abusive, that how I see him and that how he felt to me from the start until very very late in this story and only then he change a little too late. yeas "come back now" like he was his dog is the way to go when you worry for your friends - okay. whatever you say. I don't agree with you, but well think what you want ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ I won't argue about it. I just don't agree.
so in the end, I don't think it that sad. realistic yeas, but sad.....mm not really. I would have been more sad if Subin would choose to forgive everything Hyunwoo did to him and will blindly stay with him with his "love" to him.
The problem is that it is taxing on all of them, i realize that Hyung is willing to put up with Subin not loving him, but that doesn't make it any less sad. Both Subin and Hyunwoo lose out on a best friend as well. Also, you'll have to point out specific instances so i can look at them and analyze them. You saying "a lot." and "when they 1st started living together" doesn't tell me what instances upset you specifically.
mm taxing? you mean toxic? I don't think it toxic, cause like I said Subin do love Hyung. but in a different way. I"m not bitter about Subin and Hyunwoo losing firendship, cause I never felt they had much friendship left after he left him. and I never felt it was a "true" friendship, since Subin always the one loving him one sidely. I feel Hyunwoo and Subin games was more toxic.
take into account I read it the first it come out, and I can't remember all the chapters. I only remember that when Subin and Hyunwoo live together after he come back, after two years?, it wasn't a building Relationship. it was unbalence and unhealthy Relationship, that hurt both of them. and that Hyunwoo usued to order him around, do that , cook that, I want you to do that.
You're admitting yourself that you don't remember the story, i'm going to be upfront, i don't remember Hyunwoo ever being cruel to Subin outside of when he was rejecting his advances and i don't remember him ordering Subin around at all. You should read back, just to check that things are as you remember them. That is an honest, genuine suggestion and not meant to be patronizing. I remember the beginning pretty well, i remember the entire manga to a pretty okay degree, but i don't remember the things you're saying happened happening.
look, I won't start to talk about little things that happen in this story, cause it don't matter. I said my point, if you don't believe me that fine, it your choice, but I do remember the story.
you can read it again cause he did order him around, for the more Details "orders" he give him look in the mange, I remember it piss me off! you maybe seen orders like a dog has a "cute" friend thing, maybe. but I don't, I hated it from the start! I won't answer anymore.
I know i might be late but i just want to say i love you!! We share the same sentiments my friend! I actually avoid reading the comments section since it always hurts me to see hyunwoo get bashed like he's the only bad guy here. Like you say something in defense of hyunwoo and you wont get a warm response. Good thing i found the courage today to check the comments and then i saw you & the no. of upvotes you have! You and i are not alone haha! As much as i want hyunwoo & subin to be together it the end, seems like the author decided to take the opposite way. Myb bc its easier? It will take a few more chaps if she will focus now on hyunwoo & his feelings for subin. Its just sad that subin will never know what hyunwoo is thinking. Oh well. Anyway, the epilogue will be released tomorrow. I already know how the story will end but my heart is not yet prepared to be broken, again.
Not everything you like is good for you. Sometimes you need to help yourself by letting go of some things. There are so many factors to consider in why hyunwoo and subin shouldn’t be in a relationship. Hyunwoo is selfish, subin was too at point but he owned up to it and started setting boundaries for himself. Hyunwoo doesn’t care about subin feelings, he’s used to ever going his way and people liking him but not the other way around, to the extent that when he was invited into a couples home, he tried to break their relationship. That’s really disrespectful and shows he truly doesn’t care about subin as feelings. Yes subin doesn’t completely not like him anymore but he also likes Jun and cares about him. He’s still going to be attached to hyunwoo because he liked him for so long and literally lived with him after all. But what do you think would have happened if he got to kiss subin? He would break up with jun and they’d live happily ever after? I know it’s just fiction but think maturely lol
If we look at the very end, after all the character growth, they definitely would have been able to date. Hyunwoo was always the issue, he no longer was, but Subin had started this thing with Hyung and chose him basically because of guilt.
You're saying "not everything you like is good for you" when the point of my post was that at the end of the day, AFTER EVERYTHING, nobody looks happy. There is no silver lining, it's just a bitter ending tbh. Everyone settled and Subin still feels like he's just running away because he's too scared after years of Hyunwoo hurting his feelings to try that one last time.
There was that part where it looked like there were 2 of himself talking in a restroom stall, unless that was someone else, and he's having issues remembering things like how he kept saying there was a pack of cigarettes in Skylar's backpack when there were actually fireworks or when he contemplates "telling Skylar's mom everything (even though all the bad stuff might just be in his head)" and supposedly decides not too only for her to somehow know. There's also the fact that Skylar seems to hate him and he doesn't know why. Skylar says "it's Yeonduk again". This might be a psychological shounen ai, with the shounen ai only being the sweet side to Yeonduk's memories.
In the 1st place, class prez seems to have a prejudice towards Minho of some kind, though it hasn't been revealed yet and he's avoiding talking to Minho about it. Seukyung has feelings for him already and his life is impacted in a positive light by his love for Minho. There has literally only been 2 instances where Minho hit a "flag" with class prez, when he complimented his haircut and when he confessed, and class prez's thoughts on him are "you're getting in the way of my love for Seukyung" and "i should avoid him till graduation". People are iffy about Seukyung as a person because he's been portrayed in a negative light intentionally, but what has he really done? The only action that he's taken that could be considered "bad", aside from smirking and eye glinting at suspicious times, was his harsh rejection of class prez just now. If you think about it, class prez is doing the same to Minho by not answering, running away and then planning to avoid him. Right now, class prez doesn't think much of Minho, so i think it'd be great for him to work on getting over the breakup and let MinhoXSeukyung be a thing, then everyone could have someone.
Wow, wow, wow.
Way to minimize dishonesty and cruelty.
What you mean the only thing he has done wrong is harsh rejection of Hajun.? Smirking?
Please, for the love of God. Everybody ships who they want but can't people at least hold on to what is decent and honest?
Are we that far up our asses that we can't just accept that we can ship a character just because he is better looking and stop putting pearls on a pig so he won't look so bad?
What the Pinkie did? Let's see:
- He knows Hajun likes him. He heard his confession. So what he does? He doesn't rejects Hajun. He goes on a very cruel manipulation and uses the guy's feelings to get attention from Minho.
Notice that he does that in a very cold and calculated way. He knows Minho likes Hajun. He knows Hajun likes him and he doesn't care. He only care about his own selfish goal. His cruelty is astonishing.
And when does he rejects Hajun? Does he do it like a man? No, he does it like a coward, when is confronted by Minho and after being caught. He doesn't reject Hajun harshly, he humiliates him in front of Minho.
And you mean Hajun is doing the same to Minho???? "If you think about it", Hajun did rejected Minho clearly, honestly and more than once. From his POV, Minho is harassing him after he asked several times to be left alone.
Hajun never manipulated Minho, never gave him false hope ( like Pinkie did ).
His rejection of Minho is honest as it should be.
Minho confessed, Hajun rejected him right away and that is what he cannot be forgiven by people hating on him for nothing.
Fuck. Pinkie is hot and all but minimize his cruelty and dishonesty while portraying the other guy -- whose biggest fault is to be less good looking and fail to impress yaoi fangirls- as in the same level is just too much.
Anyway, the Pinkie gets another dick to suck on later on the story. Don't worry. He is going to be just fine.
The monstrous uke who dared to be cold to Minho gets the good guy. Oh, the tragedy!
I honestly fell in love with you over this comment. I hate the comment section on this manhwa because of all the people hating on Hajun over him being human and having normal human responses to stuff. Everyone calls him a jerk for rejecting Minho and trying to avoid him and no one wants to accept that he did that because he honestly had someone else he liked and Minho kept pressuring him and chasing after him even after he asked him to leave him alone.
And I don't know how they can be so forgiving of Pinkie's manipulation.
Oh, and the comments about Hajun being a tsundere. He isn't. If people had bothered to take notice of how the author portrays him when talking to pinkie whom he BLOODY LIKES. He is sweet and cute then but noo just because he acts cold towards Minho whom he DOESN'T LIKE (yet) he is a jerk or a tsundere or shit. Honestly...
Listen, I never warmed to Blackie and I like Pinkie too because he's hot ( right now this is the only reason I like him to tell the truth). However this shit is not fair comparison at all.
There is a reason why Minho is mad at Pinkie not Blackie. Minho can see the seriousness in Pinkie's actions so why can't the readers see it too?
He can see the guy is doing something very nefarious and cruel while Blackie, for all his rudeness, just don't want contact with Minho. We may not like Blackie because he is cold to Minho but at no point he was dishonest and deceiving like Pinkie.
If Minho is chasing Blackie even after being rejected, Blackie is not doing anything wrong by trying to cut him off so to say that he is doing 'the same' is just not true.
I think sometimes we go overboard justifying our preferences and ships.
It's fine to ship Blondie x Pinkie just because Pinkie sounds more interesting or is better looking or even because we tend to forgive the inexcusable under the pretense of 'well, he did it because he loves him'.
But the truth is, If Pinkie was an ugly old fart and did exactly the same, everybody would be calling him a disgusting creep.
Err...
... Harsh rejection and smirking is all you saw?
Seukyung did something horrible that goes beyond this. His feelings for Minho don't excuse it. Hint: He did the opposite of the right thing when he found out that Hajun liked him.
Both Seukyung and Hajun got confessed by someone they were not interested in.
Only one of them gave an honest and clear answer to their proponent.
Only one of them acted as a snake and used the other feelings without consideration.
Hajun in no way can be blamed for not accepting Minho's affection, especially because he already liked somebody else. He did not 'run away' without giving an answer. He rejected Minho and wanted to move on with his life. There is no wrongdoing on his part.
If you can't see the difference between Hajun and Seukyung character by the way they behaved so far, please just be careful out there with the Seukyungs in the world.
I don't hate on Hajun... You're saying i'm not "facing reality" and that i'm blaming him or whatever, but i actually like Hajun to a degree. However, I'm willing to acknowledge that Hajun just isn't a great person... He judgemental, catty and kind of bitchy in general. some people will say he's a tsundere, but that isn't right as he has a negative attitude both inside and outwardly, you have to fight him to be friends with him. He isn't secretly upset he has no friends or hiding a secret alter ego on the inside wishing he could get along with people, he's literally just a bitchy person that you have to tolerate until he likes you. Why are you immediately assuming i like Seukyung because "he's hot"? His looks aren't actually a factor for me here, i actually found Hajun's beauty more attractive than Seukyung's generic "college guy" look. From my perspective Minho is the most attractive with Hajun next and Seukyung last... You say he "manipulated Hajun's feelings after the confession", but that hasn't even been revealed yet... Neither of them remember the drunken night and we haven't been told what happened. Did he use his feelings? Yes. Did he use his feelings immediately following the confession? We don't know. He DID use Hajun mulriple times to irritate Minho, he'd treat Hajun a certain way in front of Minho so that when Hajun responded with love, Minho would see it and get mad. If Hajun knew about this he'd probably be upset. I don't feel like this was so much to hurt Hajun so much as to get Minho's attention. He wants Minho to notice him and knows he can by taking advantage of the situation. The guy Minho is in love with happens to be in love with him. You talk about Hajun's POV without acknowledging Seukyung's. He was confessed to by Hajun, but has no feelings towards him as he is already in love, he has no obligation to Hajun just because he has feelings for him, he let him down harshly. He is in love with Minho, who he knows has feelings for Hajun, this would probably lead to some resentment and would tip the scales from just being neutral towards Hajun to possibly not liking him. It isn't unusual for people to be catty when it comes to love and it's not like Seukyung is the only one who is... Hajun is being pretty catty to Minho because Minho keeps getting between him and Seukyung. The time when he said "you're in my way, leave my sight" and the time where he said "you used him, don't ever do it again" threateningly, even though that actually wasn't the case as Seukyung came to Minho in actuality, come to mind. Hajun is bitchy and has no issues with saying really hurtful things like "i'm disgusted that this happened with you. That i spent the night with you".
I'd like to make it clear that i'm not dissing on Hajun by acknowledging factual shitty action he took within the manga... I like Hajun, i think he's funny, but as a person he's SUPER bitchy. You're right, he's not tsundere, he's just bitchy. A tsundere acts mean, but wants to connect, Hajun just acts mean, to everyone. He's nice to Seukyung BECAUSE he likes him. You say Minho was "following him around", but it was only because of the situation that Hajun got him into by drunkenly coming over to Minho's house and then running out... It was a situation they should've handled together, he knew Minho's family had seen them and chose "idc about this guy enough to clear things up with his family, even though i contributed to his family thinking their son/bro might be GAY all the sudden i'm going to tell him 'i'm disgusted that it was with you' and dip out". He's a total bitch, i'm sorry. Minho isn't "following him around", he needs his help... Until he falls for him and realizes Seukyung might have bad intentions towards Seukyung. That is another thing you fail to realize as well, he's jealous of course, but the reason he keeps getting between Seukyung and Hajun is to PROTECT Hajun. He knows Seukyung isn't in love with Hajun which makes his manipulation of Hajun's feelings confusing and worrying to Minho because 1. He's in love with Hajun and 2, he doesn't know what Seukyung wants.
He... LITERALLY ran away... Are... Are you joking? He didn't respond. At all. Are we reading the same manga? What happened was: Minho, with Seukyung's help, got Hajun to come over under the condition that they never talk again. Hajun tries to leave as soon as the dinner is over, but Minho had been wanting to talk with Hajun only to realize he's being hated by Hajun for no reason (each time he tries to talk with Hajun he is told to leave him alone for no reason and when he confronts Hajun about being looked down on by him for seemingly no reason Hajun almost gives his reason) and ignored for a phone call from Seukyung. Minho gets angry because he knows that Hajun looks down on him for some reason, He literally sees Minho as less than him for some unknown reason(the two of them argue about this), takes Hajun's phone and throws it then kisses and confesses. Minho tells him to forgot the confession, then Hajun says he's leaving and LITERALLY runs out and decides to avoid him. The text following the confession is "do i have to answer him? I should avoid him till graduation", please read the manga.
Okay, but my preference of Seukyung isn't due to his looks... Quit projecting on me... I prefer Seukyung because while he is manipulative, he does it out of love, he wants Minho's attention so he gets it by angering him. You're right about one thing, the two's cruelties aren't comparable. Seukyung treats Hajun the way he does because he wants Minho, Hajun treats Minho the way he does because he looks down on him. Seukyung does it out of love, Hajun does it out of bigotry. It's not like Seukyung was even trying to hurt Hajun either... He just wanted to act that way in front of Minho to keep his attention, notice how when it's just him and Hajun they get along really well? But when he's rejecting him he's harsh? What's the difference? Minho's there. He has feelings for Minho and knows Minho has feelings for Hajun, of course he wont shed a tear as he cruely rejects Hajun, but you know what he DID do? He went and talked to Hajun after and tells Minho that he thinks Hajun will be able to get over it soon. As far as "Hajun isn't doing anything wrong by trying to cut him off", you need to read this manga again... He is cutting him off because he looks down on him, not because of the sex... He doesn't want to associate with "that type of person". The main issue with Hajun cutting him off though is that Minho was coming to him for help, with a problem that Hajun CAUSED. Do you realize what happened to Minho? In a single night he was labled a gay by his family and was going to be in trouble if he couldn't get Hajun to come over, but thats just HALF of it, then his friends think he's gay because he keeps trying to get Hajun's help, but Hajun wont even TALK to him... Literally everyone ends up thinking he's gay, luckily he ends up actually falling for Hajun... Hajun came in, fucked up his family situation (suddenly gay son) and decided to leave with the sweet parting words of "i'm disgusted that it was with you" before letting all this shit just fall into place on Minho...
How do you know what I fail or don't fail to realise from Minho's POV when in my comment all I was talking about was from Hajun's POV. In this situation, I can relate with Hajun because I have had a similar situation happen to me where a person whom I dislike kept following me and trying to make a move on me to the point that I didn't want to go to uni because he was there. So I can understand Hajun and justify his behaviour.
But when talking about Minho I have nothing bad to say except that maybe he is a bit of a dummy. He is a really straightforward character and that is a bit of a problem when it comes to Hajun. If he had been careful so that a rumour didn't start about him and Hajun and had wanted to start with friends maybe thing would have worked out differences between them. Now given that he is so straightforward it is understandable that he will take action when he is jealous and knowing that Pinkie is up to something I completely support Minho getting in the way and trying to protect Hajun.
So please don't get me wrong. I have nothing against Minho, I love his character. But I can understand why Hajun is cold and mean to him and was just trying to justify it.
I just don't like the sunbae.
He was careful. He initially tried to talk to Hajun face to face, but Hajun told him not to talk to him and it's later hinted that he doesn't want to talk to him because he looks down on Minho. The situation you describe that happened to you and the one in this manga aren't the same... Minho isn't "following him around to make a move on him", he was following him trying to have a simple talk so he could ask him a favor, that being to help solve his family issues which were in part Hajun's fault... He didn't develop feelings until later and he has yet to even ask him on a date or for anything other than "will you come to my house". The only move he made was the kiss, the following Hajun around was about his family issues.
I was suspicious all the way up to the end of ch 2 where it was made more obvious... He's a damn predator, i don't think he'll break up with his mom and i don't think he's disinterested in their fortune either. This was entirely too shounen ai for a yaoi, it rang bells and i see it coming. Honestly, i don't know that this is going to end in a way that will allow me to root for them, even if he really falls for him. He'd have to admit everything and beg, i'd also like it if the uke wouldn't just accept it, make him fight for you.










Tsundere alienated uke? Check. Over the top happy popular guy seme always smiling? Check. Sparkles and bubbles? Check. Rumors out of nowhere for no specific reason to the detriment of a mc that gives them something to angst over? Check. This story is walking the trodden path, like that road is busted from use, but it's still a nice read.