youraedthiswrogn January 23, 2018 4:28 am

Why is his disguise being seen through so often? He's apparently young enough looking that the high school students don't realize he's 28, but the teacher and some random chick from his past see him ATTENDING HIGH SCHOOL and rather than assume he's a look alike or his son they just jump to "oh, it's him in disguise". What the actual fuck?

    Misheru-senpai January 23, 2018 10:28 pm

    Well, it would be weird if he had a son who looked like his twin...
    You can look younger than you are and go with that, but as soon as they already knew how old you are and remember your face, then it's a different story.

    lovemaid January 24, 2018 9:14 am

    Also his school uniform looks like normal working clothes (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜

    youraedthiswrogn January 24, 2018 9:24 am
    Well, it would be weird if he had a son who looked like his twin...You can look younger than you are and go with that, but as soon as they already knew how old you are and remember your face, then it's a differ... Misheru-senpai

    I see what you're saying and i agree, however i feel like the scenario described in this manga is an exception. If you've seen what someone looks like and know their age, you could recognize them, but i think you'd only make the connection in places you'd expect to find them. He is attending high school walking amongst students wearing a school uniform, yet she still saw him and was like "he's in disguise, i'll run up and slap him without making sure it's him". If i saw you in japan and then went to america and saw your doppelganger, i would assume it was a look alike because what are you doing in america? You see what i mean?

    youraedthiswrogn January 24, 2018 9:26 am
    Also his school uniform looks like normal working clothes (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜 lovemaid

    School uniforms in japan are very formal as the culture is very strict, it looks like a school uniform.

    Misheru-senpai January 24, 2018 6:18 pm
    I see what you're saying and i agree, however i feel like the scenario described in this manga is an exception. If you've seen what someone looks like and know their age, you could recognize them, but i think y... youraedthiswrogn

    Yes, I understand your point.
    Although, it's a bit different if it's for example if you saw a teacher at McD. It's not his usual location and he probably wears casual clothing. It's difficult to tell if it's him or not, but I don't think you would guess he's someone entirely else.

    youraedthiswrogn January 24, 2018 10:39 pm
    Yes, I understand your point. Although, it's a bit different if it's for example if you saw a teacher at McD. It's not his usual location and he probably wears casual clothing. It's difficult to tell if it's hi... Misheru-senpai

    Yes, in a casual area where anyone could be expected to be found i can acknowledge that point, but what would a 28 year old be doing attending high school wearing a school uniform walking amid other students? I feel that this scenario specifically is an exception.

    Misheru-senpai January 25, 2018 4:43 pm
    Yes, in a casual area where anyone could be expected to be found i can acknowledge that point, but what would a 28 year old be doing attending high school wearing a school uniform walking amid other students? I... youraedthiswrogn

    This being a manga makes it an exception itself (≧∀≦)

    youraedthiswrogn January 25, 2018 10:38 pm
    This being a manga makes it an exception itself (≧∀≦) Misheru-senpai

    Lol, i like your logic (≧∀≦)

    Anonymous January 29, 2018 4:33 am

    Well, one was obsessedly inlove with him and the other obsessedly hated his guts? Those kinds of feelings surely call for pretty attentive memory, right?
    I

    youraedthiswrogn January 29, 2018 4:44 am
    Well, one was obsessedly inlove with him and the other obsessedly hated his guts? Those kinds of feelings surely call for pretty attentive memory, right? I @Anonymous

    Yes, that was something i agreed with both of you on, what i had said in response however is that the setting he was recognized in is a little unbelievable. If you think about it, it doesn't matter how strong your connection to someone is if you encounter them in an area that they "couldn't possibly be", you'll just assume it's a look alike or relative. I have a strong connection with my family, i could pick them out of a crowd, but if i left the country and saw someone who looked identical to my brother i'd go over and be like "holy shit, you look just like my brother, let me get a pic", not rush over and start accusing the guy of having followed me cross-country while assuming he is my brother. Same in a school setting, my brother doesn't attend high school so if i saw a kid identical to him with a backpack on walking and talking with friends at the school entrance i'd be like "Oh, shit. This coincidence", but i wouldn'g assume he was my brother in disguise infiltrating the school.

    youraedthiswrogn January 29, 2018 4:48 am
    Yes, that was something i agreed with both of you on, what i had said in response however is that the setting he was recognized in is a little unbelievable. If you think about it, it doesn't matter how strong y... youraedthiswrogn

    Obviously once i got closer and saw that they were LITERALLY identical i might need to call my brother and show him, but my brother is still young enough to be in high school and that's why. In the case of the uke here, that lady saw a 28 year old man's look alike in a setting where he literally couldn't possibly be and immediately reacted extremely.

    Anonymous January 30, 2018 4:09 pm
    Yes, that was something i agreed with both of you on, what i had said in response however is that the setting he was recognized in is a little unbelievable. If you think about it, it doesn't matter how strong y... youraedthiswrogn

    It wasn't anywhere near the school that she slapped him, though, that looks like it was in the subway... It also looks like she came at him from behind or from the side. If she saw him from behind while he was looking sideways, she wouldn't have seen the school tie or school label and since he wasn't wearing his school jacket, she may not have realized that it was a student uniform that he was wearing till after she had already recognized him.
    Anyway, just saying. Your posts just got me a bit intrigued as well.

    youraedthiswrogn January 30, 2018 10:32 pm
    It wasn't anywhere near the school that she slapped him, though, that looks like it was in the subway... It also looks like she came at him from behind or from the side. If she saw him from behind while he was ... @Anonymous

    You're right, i had seen the "hey, what're you doing for summer break" and him walking in a crowd of people and thought he was on his way to school. It looks as though he could be on his way back from sensei's house after the sex? Though i don't understand why the friend was there. From the looks of it, that lady approached him from the side or back, which means she didn't even see his face when she decided she was so sure it was him that she'd chase after him and slap him. She was like "it's him! His profile is JUST like that! -slap-".

youraedthiswrogn January 23, 2018 4:28 am

Why is his disguise being seen through so often? He's apparently young enough looking that the high school students don't realize he's 28, but the teacher and some random chick from his past see him ATTENDING HIGH SCHOOL and rather than assume he's a look alike or his son they just jump to "oh, it's him in disguise". What the actual fuck?

youraedthiswrogn January 12, 2018 10:26 am

He saw him getting hard and DOVE on his dick, lol. "blowjob should be alright".

    Ben is a Hoe January 12, 2018 9:32 pm

    Yo, that killed me, I mean it had me ROLLING. I was like “yass homeboy!!”

youraedthiswrogn January 4, 2018 1:25 am

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youraedthiswrogn January 4, 2018 1:25 am

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youraedthiswrogn January 4, 2018 12:00 am

Is it weird that i find it both creepy AND somewhat cute? Like, i feel like i wouldn't care IF the dude wasn't going to try to cage and kill me. Does that make sense? Like, if it was JUST out of unrequited love and NOT out of demented obsession. It's weird to think about, but a lot of people like to have a picture of their crush and, let's face it, will masturbate to it. This guy just has a whole room full. And a body pillow... A lot of them look like paintings/drawings, maybe he just draws him a lot and it's NOT a creepy alter room? Who knows... Also, yes, i know this might not make sense to some. I'm basically saying it's the intentions that matter to me in this scenario and the person's level of tolerance. If the intentions behind the room are good in that the person just wants to be with you and doesn't mean you harm, and you dont mind the weight of the feelings the guy must have for you to put together an entire room of pictures of you, then i don't see the problem, it's basically deciding "do i want to enter a relationship with someone who is already in love with me when i haven't developed those feelings yet", similar to love at 1st sight. -braces for backlash of indignation-

    Jancf January 4, 2018 12:32 am

    Yeah I totally understand but also, although we have a picture of that particular ‘crush’ 98% those are of famous people which makes sense but of your best friend? Like it’s all cool and all if you have no ill intentions but why not just confess to that person in the first place? Idk lol ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    youraedthiswrogn January 4, 2018 12:50 am
    Yeah I totally understand but also, although we have a picture of that particular ‘crush’ 98% those are of famous people which makes sense but of your best friend? Like it’s all cool and all if you have n... Jancf

    Do you have ill intentions towards the person in thr picture when you save... Graphic... Images to your phone? Having pictures of someone you find attractive seems normal to me. I think the reason it seems like an issue here is because of the sheer AMOUNT of pictures, but that's only because it's indicative of obsession. If you were to be able to have a calm discussion with the person after learning of the room and they confessed i'd think the room is creepy-cute. It's cute that you care enough about me to keep pictures of me, if that makes sense.

    youraedthiswrogn January 4, 2018 12:52 am
    Do you have ill intentions towards the person in thr picture when you save... Graphic... Images to your phone? Having pictures of someone you find attractive seems normal to me. I think the reason it seems like... youraedthiswrogn

    The*

    lannychan January 4, 2018 7:39 am

    Totally agree with you. It firstade me go holy shit, then lol and now I totally think it's creepy-cute xD dunno, I'm weird ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    youraedthiswrogn January 4, 2018 8:59 am
    Totally agree with you. It firstade me go holy shit, then lol and now I totally think it's creepy-cute xD dunno, I'm weird ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ lannychan

    Right? It's like, on one hand it's creepy, but when you take in how cute he's been acting around the uke you can't help but consider that maybe he did it based on the same feelings that make him blush just being in the same room as the uke.

youraedthiswrogn December 31, 2017 11:26 pm

Everyone is saying that 15.5 is an "alternate ending", but was it? It seemed to me that 15 flowed into 15.5. At the end of 15 they went to meet and Yeon-Ho died, then his consciousness was brought back to his younger self, hence the "dreams". All of that happened, but it seemed like he went back in time. I guess it says FIN, so idk.

youraedthiswrogn December 19, 2017 8:51 pm

I think the seme genuinely had stockholm syndrome that MAY have developed into love, all i know is that it wasn't the same situation with the MCs. The seme was a scared child crying for his mother, i don't imagine he fell in love, at least not until he got older. I DO, however, think the uke actually fell in love. Yes, he wasn't okay in the beginning, but that is where the similarities end, he was a grown man able to process his emotions and think rationally. To put it bluntly, i think he probably had a strong enough mind to continue at that level of confinement and not develop stockholm syndrome. It was just how dominating he was in their dialogue that makes me feel this way, he wasn't scared.

youraedthiswrogn November 21, 2017 8:50 am

There're actually comments here saying that Hyung was AT ALL responsible for what just happened?! There are certain things you can no longer do while in a relationship, staying the night at an ex's being one of those things.You know what, to make a point i'm going to change up the situation: imagine that this is a shoujo manga with hyung as the girlfriend and hyunwoo as the mc's (subin's) dream girl, can any of you tell me that you'd blame the girlfriend for getting mad at her boyfriend for going to his crush's house and staying the night while he ignores her calls? Would you honestly blame her if she thought he slept with her and kicked him out? The point is that because Subin is portrayed as the fragile uke you want to look at him as the "girl" and protect him, even when he's clearly 100% the reason why their relationship is failing.

    Ishi November 21, 2017 9:17 am

    Amen to that!

    Anonymous November 21, 2017 11:11 pm

    Are there two people who share this screen name? Because after all this time I really thought I would never see YOU victim-blaming someone.

    He went to HIS apartment (the apartment that he just HAPPENED to share with someone he had feelings for but who was NOT his ex as you ERRONEOUSLY claim) to pick up some stuff and he had a COLD and fainted. How the F*** can someone blame him for something that is out of his control? And MOST people would look at the Uke and think he's in the wrong BECAUSE he's 'fragile' just like you JUST did. UMMMMMMMMMMM... NOPE. Thanks.

    Anonymous November 21, 2017 11:26 pm
    Are there two people who share this screen name? Because after all this time I really thought I would never see YOU victim-blaming someone. He went to HIS apartment (the apartment that he just HAPPENED to share... @Anonymous

    And when I'm talking about blaming him I'm not taking about Kang. I'm talking about the people who are SUPPOSEDLY reading this.

    youraedthiswrogn November 22, 2017 9:14 am
    Are there two people who share this screen name? Because after all this time I really thought I would never see YOU victim-blaming someone. He went to HIS apartment (the apartment that he just HAPPENED to share... @Anonymous

    You argue that he's a victim, i'm arguing that he's not a victim and is bringing this on himself. I was using the term "ex" loosely, i didn't mean that they had literally dated. Hyunwoo is the last person Subin had feelings for and he is now pretending to try and move on, if you can think of a better term to describe that then please tell me. You mention that Subin had a cold and fainted, but did Hyung know that? I believe that Subin just said something about it in his head during that scene? I'll have to look back. Either way, i fail to see how the illness is relevant... You act like a common cold is unmanageable, anyone can tell when they have a cold at that level of severity and choose to do the smart thing and rest after taking medicine. Do you think Subin should have left to where Hyunwoo is in a state that could leave him staying there over night knowing Hyung's feelings on the Hyunwoo matter?THIS is what i'm talking about when i bring up that he's the uke, you heard"subin's sick" and immediately ran to his defense rather than thinking logically and realizing that Subin CHOSE himself to go to Hyunwoo's in his fragile state. Keep in mind that Hyunwoo has already told Subin that he has feelings for him and that Subin knows Hyung doesn't even want him talking to Hyunwoo, Subin chose to go over to the home of a guy that confessed to him in a weak state that said guy could take advantage of knowing that he wasn't feeling good and that his boyfriend wouldn't want him there alone with Hyunwoo.

    youraedthiswrogn November 22, 2017 9:25 am
    Are there two people who share this screen name? Because after all this time I really thought I would never see YOU victim-blaming someone. He went to HIS apartment (the apartment that he just HAPPENED to share... @Anonymous

    -Read my last response to you before this one- I'd really like you to know that i would never intentionally victim-blame someone, the thing is, i don't consider him a victim for the reasons stated above. If you can convince me that he is a victim then i'll take back what i said as that'll actually be victim-blaming, but till then i just see it as me calling Subin on his shit.

youraedthiswrogn November 20, 2017 8:13 am

I mean, maybe that's his way of showing his love, but he gave away his uke's first time... I can't get past that. He got angry after while talking to the client who took his virginity, but it just isn't enough. I get the feeling that the author was trying to instil in us the idea that the seme is a professional to the very core of his being, but where the hell is the line?! He LET someone take his uke's virginity! Clearly he had SOME kind of feelings for the uke already too, otherwise why would a business man like him get angry to the point that a customer saw it in his eyes? I don't like it... The uke's just one sidedly chasing, i want the seme to lose his composure, it's bullshit that he's just okay with all of this.

    youraedthiswrogn November 20, 2017 8:19 am

    Not client, staff*

    Joy November 29, 2017 5:16 pm

    I think he's a sadist who gets off on humiliation not pain.

    youraedthiswrogn November 30, 2017 9:20 am
    I think he's a sadist who gets off on humiliation not pain. Joy

    Maybe that could be the case, though it still makes no sense to me even if that is the case. :´^(

    Tarshil March 27, 2018 8:27 am
    Maybe that could be the case, though it still makes no sense to me even if that is the case. :´^( youraedthiswrogn

    he didn't love the uke at first. it was just business. he develops feelings over time and when he comes to realize he cares for the uke he tells him to stop servicing clients because he's not an emotional guys doesn't mean he's a dick. this story is very masculine. i can see why women don't like it. 1: you have this insecurity issues with dominance and think gay couples need to express their views on male/female equality. well some of us like those dynamics, some don't. get over it. 2: it's not lovely dovey romance. which I definitely prefer especially since most yaoi directed at a female audience is puke. but that doesn't make the manga bad, it's just not your cup of sweet fruity tea. 3: the character development is subtle and seent through small gestures. it's not dont with an in your face explanation step by step at how the emotions of these two changes. I think that's too much for the regular female yaoi reader.

    youraedthiswrogn March 27, 2018 8:52 am
    he didn't love the uke at first. it was just business. he develops feelings over time and when he comes to realize he cares for the uke he tells him to stop servicing clients because he's not an emotional guys ... @Tarshil

    Lol, i tried to read through your reply, kinda stopped when you were clearly being rude, kept on to give you some benefit of the doubt and then just decided i don't care enough about your opinion to read more than 3/4 of your paragraph because of the level of just sheer disrespect. Clearly you're seeing your view through tunnel vision. Don't reply to this, i have no interest in dialogue with you.

    Joy March 27, 2018 9:42 pm
    Lol, i tried to read through your reply, kinda stopped when you were clearly being rude, kept on to give you some benefit of the doubt and then just decided i don't care enough about your opinion to read more t... youraedthiswrogn

    Best way to respond to a ...a .... I have no idea what this guy is but that was a great way to respond to him. I myself couldn't fully read his reply. All I got was 'sensitive female readers' and some nonsense about masculinity.

    Anonymous March 27, 2018 9:52 pm
    Best way to respond to a ...a .... I have no idea what this guy is but that was a great way to respond to him. I myself couldn't fully read his reply. All I got was 'sensitive female readers' and some nonsense ... Joy

    The subtle jabs at women is pretty silly considering the genre is largely made by and for women. Idk why it seems to be becoming popular to poke fun at the audience yaoi mostly caters to and is written by.

    youraedthiswrogn March 28, 2018 8:28 am
    Best way to respond to a ...a .... I have no idea what this guy is but that was a great way to respond to him. I myself couldn't fully read his reply. All I got was 'sensitive female readers' and some nonsense ... Joy

    Ty (●'◡'●)ノ

    Joy March 31, 2018 1:04 pm
    The subtle jabs at women is pretty silly considering the genre is largely made by and for women. Idk why it seems to be becoming popular to poke fun at the audience yaoi mostly caters to and is written by. @Anonymous

    He wasn't being subtle at all. Or she. Apparently, we're too sensitive to understand the difference between dominance and rape.

    Mayumi April 14, 2018 2:18 pm

    Naww what I want is for the seme to desperately plead the uke but the uke gives no absolute fuck sighhh

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