so like, both yeonwoo and jun can control those creepy hands and jun is afraid of the dark with those whispers from reflections/mirrors because he chose to forget all of that when he got traumatized at 5 yrs. old ? Jun now is trying to be an upright person but as yeonwoo implies, jun is totally different when they were kids,, im curious where the power came from tho that it can traverse anywhere with reflections and manifest at will,, all came from the black room?
wow lots of update new info,, so grandpa/tudi deity/lord qingdi also goes be the name of Yu xi. AND., DID GRANDPA JUST ADMITTED THAT THE REASON WHY HE IS UNSTABLE IS BECAUSE HE HAS AO GU IN HIS HEART ???? OMG
ALSO AOAO 'S BROKEN PAST SOUL COMES BACK.
And so theory time from more update infos,,
when past aoao died because of past ryan, where ao gu killed past ryan and reincarnated his brother,, there were this black pearl (the one theyre looking for at the beginning of this manhua,, its probably past ryan's treasure pearl. they explained how the dragon has a pearl and how they are obsessed on treasuring the pearl) the black pearl as it has been introduced contains a great amount of power,, its true but it was never on the mortal realm like how aoao heard it. When past ryan died,, ao gu took the pearl and they somehow sealed it on their realm,, big brother sacrificed a lot for his brother's reincarnation severing and erasing lots of things for his sake but all of that has been useless because their dad (current dragon god emperor) put ryan's black pearl to baby aoao (just reincarnated ao ao) in order to avert crisis of the uncontrollable black pearl energy. Thats why aoao can see/feel the black pearl when they try to mate,, from their theater school mate that believe ryan wont do the same thing again,, looks like he forced his black pearl to ao ao in their past life, which killed aoao. Remember when past ryan somewhere in chapters said he was ”passing” something to ryan with the line ”forget it, he can pass it by them having physical/sexual intercation” ? i think its the black pearl he was passing which past aoao is against to.,
And also, when current aoao and current ryan have physical interaction and past aoao resurface for a moment,, and looks like he detected past ryan (the obssessive black dragon) dominating current ryan and got scared by it which is why ao ao is frightened. But the current ao ao loves ryan which solidified the info that their past soul inside their body is a different soul from what they are now.
the weirdest thing is when the ring broke and past aoao resurface, he was kinda angry that the ring broke which means past aoao still loves past ryan,, but then he was afraid of him?? i see theres more unsaid information in between we still need to know
i dont understand why others are confused,, so lemme give sequential summary to try help,.
basically duroa valrose reincarnated here as villainess that she confirmed after meeting the existence of two persons, nocton and alice when they were younger.
valrose did not much remember the novel (which is fair and actually normal, other isekai FL are really amazing for remembering every sequential plot of story,, supposed its their fave novels maybe thats why they remember clearly)
Since Valrose knew she was the villainess at the least,, she tried to befriend Nocton, who she thinks is the main lead of ”He and Alice” Novel because Nocton would eventually kill valrose for bullying alice, so like, maybe if theyre firends, he wont kill her in the future. ML in the novel has black hair so readers like valrose in her past life thought the ML was nocton and not Claymore (the blonde guy, current fiancee of valrose). She thought itd be easily solved like that,, which is why we have the manhwa title.
So the present Valrose, drink the memoir that returns clear memory, and now she knows that ”Novel valrose” was manipulated to bully alice for some sort of gain that would benefit Nocton. Which is why she was now afraid of nocton. Although i dont think she can be manipulated because Isekai soul benefit., Valrose and Nocton thought that the hypnosis works. And its the reason why Nocton didnt call valrose her name ”Duroa”,, the hypnosis starts by calling the real name in formality. Nocton always call her Valrose because he believe that valrose was only there by his side because of hypnosis, and he was afraid to lose her. Nocton can also sense danger like the tea cup scenes where he made his servant drink tea that valrose poured. The cup is poisoned, even if he wanted to drink it he cant.
Although we saw how angry valrose is because she clearly remembered how nocton plays with her emotion,, she dont have enough confidence in herself to believe she wasnt manipulated,, it was a real thing in original novel after all. Same as Valrose, Nocton also dont have the confidence of Valrose staying with her in her free will. He also dont want to believe that Valrose would understand nocton's hardship (for instance, his mother trying to poison him) at such young age.
Its not simple miscommunication,, they cant just communicate and exchange their truth that easy. Nocton cant say his side about the black magic because its too personal that could endanger his life and maybe valrose too. Valrose also, cant even say that she was from another world because thats very personal that could endanger her life too. Both Nocton and Valrose are walking in thin ice who cant freely communicate.
The current time,, we knew that Nocton probably prevented every engangement towards Valrose with his powers,, Claymore engagement is a fast deal Valrose agreed after being wary of Nocton. Valrose made Nocton promise her that he wouldnt kill anyone so. The Vision of alice from tea party murder-suicide is probably what would happen tho, if Valrose declared she was going to marry claymore in front of Nocton,, if nocton was backed in the corner then he might have hypnotized claymore to do that murder-suicide after knowing/reading the latest chapter in Nocton p.o.v. how he actually adored Valrose but couldnt afford to show it.
The future is fogged because Valrose didnt finish reading the Novel. She was waiting for the Novel chapter's price to be cheaper so she still didnt know the next volume(final volume of 3 books) but she died in the midst and reincarnated not knowing what was the ending/route of the story.
The story is quite good in my opinion,, the possibilities are now open, and it is slowburn but is fast paced in a good pacing/editing which is great. We are literally looking onwards to what was the ending contrary to usual isekai that has their plot introduced from beginning to end. It is a great read.
Im curious of the original ”Him and alice” murder ploy that leads valrose to die, like why??
Claymore also camouflaged in his training in Ernhardt and the topic of mana, so magic indeed exist,, after valrose diving in the novel's world, she know knew that Alice can see future and Nocton is born with black magic who can hypnotize people which she didn't knew before. Looks like magic is just a sideline in main story.
Thanks for giving the summary!
Well.. i guess, in the original plot, valrose was just a pawn. Nocton wanted more power and wanted to be seen as "hero", because he punished the "villainess" a.k.a valrose who bullied alice. That way, he can get more power and people sympathy. So, valrose had to die. He didn't have any feeling for valrose, just a mere pawn.
But but but, nocton in this story doesn't really think of valrose as his pawn. He wants power, yes, but not as bad as before. In the present day, he is likely in love with valrose. So, he hates claymore, he doesn't kill because of the promise, he drinks holy water even it's dangerous for him, etc. And i think, the possibility of valrose died like the original plot is quite small.
That's what i get so far, what do you think?
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i think the same,, “Valrose reincarnation ” indeed is different,, and ML maybe fell for the ”current” her contrasting the original novel where ”real valrose” can also be hypnotized/controlled/ordered,, reincarnated valrose has her own personality that influenced Nocton. I also think hypnosis doesnt work on reincarnated valrose.
In the chapter after tea party where nocton and claymore visited valrose in almost exact time,, after leading to the argument where valrose says that claymore, her fiancee is more important to her over nocton,, Nocton answered and called valrose name several times. He was trying to order/hypnotize valrose to follow him by calling her title as how his hypnosis works (because valrose said something akin to “not meeting anymore” and sort of abandoning Nocton because she has claymore in his life) but looks like reincarnated valrose really cant be hypnotized,, she didnt go to nocton's side afterall.
”Valrose, valrose, goddamn valrose.”
Aah, yup. I agree with you><)/
And i just realized he's trying to hypnotize valrose when he said that, thanks for pointing that out
our ML thinks valrose is friends with her because he knew he could hypnotize/order people but since current valrose is isekai'd and got close to nocton on purpose if saving her own life,, i really think our FL cant be ordered/hypnotized,, nocton didnt know tho but he could have a gist since since he cant hear Valrose's thought., if nocton can also read/hear Valrose thoughts everything might have been solved
hmm Walford is the Fairy God Mother in this cinderella theme right ? which is why there aint a focus on cinderella,, (and because the prince sort of like the oldest daughter and doesnt to show her him dancing with other girls,, prince seems a sweet teenage kid) because the Fairy God mother/father is busy trying to court her
Sweetie no your calculations are wrong
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The Queen is the real Cinderella that's why the name of her youngest daughter is Ashley not Cinderella. In the original story the prince has black hair, but here he has blonde hair because he's the son of Cinderella.
Omggggg this is the AFTER STORY!!
Mildred was like.. LATE LATE LATE LATE LATEEEEE
ohhhh ohoho so it repeated and she didnt know nice, thank you for telling
i knew lingchen will probably end up with Pyschic Xiao Yi or his childhood girl friend, due to both Future & timetravel now but boy author does sure know how to build BL tension between the hero Ye Zimu & Ling chen. Ye Zimu treats Ling chen as precious friend but since he is the serious type,, his care for Ling chen crosses boundaries which Fujoshis considers as BL So then i also ship Ling Chen & Ye zimu even tho ling chen will probs end up with Xiao Yi or his childhood friend.
hey this actually have a good plot,, smut part is just a bonus. Rivals are a clear cut,, they are solving things between them and give answer. her friends, and the other coworker who had been interested in her also has a proper talk to solved things. Its quite good.
Altho beware that abducting & force filming & selling it as porn(happened to sota and she saved him), tricking & bringing girls over (her coworker) and now peeping them using a hidden camera (sota's brother), also FL being drunk while having sex. (That was normal thing between couples if its consensual or the girl initiated, seems like author also try to portray that setting where Alcohol is involved, but since they love each other, has consent, and girl iniated,, that didnt feel like a repulsive thing,, he even warned her for the second time she got drunked,, didnt say about a thing about what she did the night she was drunk and quietly washed the sheets and havent had a wink of sleep, even tho he is obviously turned on last night,, hes a good boyfirend). This things are inserted to the story. Not got resolved/made right like police involved but like, the author showed it exist and the couple escaped that part, resolved it for just their situation and continue living on. Nothing too over happened to iori tho except one when she got catcalled while in bikini but then that might be actually for her bf and not her from what outcome results to. Or twice, Might be another one where iori first boyfriend said something to her about her flat chest and she remember it for life and affecting her self confidence, what i mean by nothing too over is like when other manga/manhwa explicitly force FL into unconsensual/rape and other much more heavy mentally & emotionally draining tragedy. This one is consensual.
lol latest chap is funny even tho its censored xD even the censored part is fun xD and i agree you have to pay to see what fun is this. This is author's work/job. Every manhwa/manga author are. Pay when/if you can.
Its funny seeing others upset because they aint paying for the manga, well you can solve that you know? buy it so you wont be upset.
true true but why can't they just slap sum white or black blocks on the dicks. The censoring here is so weird, do they leave out a few pages? Or what does the >>> mean?
probably means a page skip or smth
okay thats the first time he tian seriously communicated,, he really broke his own wall and tell little Mo about his feelings. hmm this is a kind of improvement :D
he probably joke about it next scene
but since we knew that the puppy is real and that he tian lost it when he was a kid (he still didnt tell that to Mo, Jianyi or zhengxi,, he tian just tell Mo about the puppy only Now, last chap)