Grey Goo June 17, 2024 5:02 am

FL has all the personality of a wet blanket. She makes what should be a spicy story so boring, doesn’t help that she’s also incredibly dumb.

Grey Goo June 17, 2024 4:54 am

Usually I really appreciate facial hair in yaoi since it’s so rare, especially on the uke. But the artist really went out of their way to make it look like chopped pubes glued to a chin.

(Also don’t like how wish-washy the uke is, or how he threatened to cheat.)

    Senior June 17, 2024 6:36 am

    Wth ... chopped pubes glued to Chinn!!!!!!!!! Lol hahaha Damn homeboy who hurt you today ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

    Jimmy June 18, 2024 4:33 pm

    this is all i could think about while looking at his face

Grey Goo June 17, 2024 3:07 am

Are beastman real in this universe, or is that beast form now the ML sees himself. He’s a furry and that’s his inner fursona? Bc if the latter, that’s hilarious and I love it. Actually want more semes who are normal and successful on the outside, but actually closeted weirdo losers on the inside . Coupled with their tolerant, competent uke. It’s a funny dynamic.

    Hasuno June 17, 2024 10:16 am

    It seems to be that beastmen real in that universe, but i think he mentioned that it's quite rare

Grey Goo June 16, 2024 7:04 pm

The seme is just canonically bad at sex and the uke just learned to endure. Don’t love that for him. This is also a scenario where one of the characters wants to switch, like genuinely would love to top the seme. And they just… dont? For no reason other than the weird strict “top and bottom” BL rules that exist for some reason. And still don’t like the seme. Likely never will. His inability to be considerate in bed and just constantly wallowing in his own self-pity is annoying. He only considers his own pleasure during sex and it shows deep down what a selfish and self serving person he is.

    4ki June 16, 2024 7:08 pm

    You're so real for this. I hate that there is NO development at all. Seme is SO unlikeable!

    Koifish June 17, 2024 1:20 am

    I think the author mentioned in a QNA that they don’t like switch couples or particularly favor them. It’s really sad we won’t ever see a switch, they would dooo so much better if they switched every now and then.

    Grey Goo June 17, 2024 1:38 am
    I think the author mentioned in a QNA that they don’t like switch couples or particularly favor them. It’s really sad we won’t ever see a switch, they would dooo so much better if they switched every now ... Koifish

    If they didn’t like switch characters, why did they write a character that wanted to switch and didn’t even enjoy bottoming? Like, it’s fine to have preferences, but because they put their preference ahead of their own writing, it came across as inconsistent character writing.

    Koifish June 17, 2024 4:11 am
    If they didn’t like switch characters, why did they write a character that wanted to switch and didn’t even enjoy bottoming? Like, it’s fine to have preferences, but because they put their preference ahea... Grey Goo

    Not sure

    ✨L£vi's dADDęy✨ June 17, 2024 1:00 pm
    If they didn’t like switch characters, why did they write a character that wanted to switch and didn’t even enjoy bottoming? Like, it’s fine to have preferences, but because they put their preference ahea... Grey Goo

    Fr like what was the point

    Ichigo June 18, 2024 1:04 am

    all of this!!! what I've been saying since day 1

    Nobodyhome June 18, 2024 5:30 pm

    U didn’t understand shit lol

    Grey Goo June 18, 2024 5:45 pm
    U didn’t understand shit lol Nobodyhome

    What did I not understand? Even in the side stories, when seme fantasizes about sex he’s shoving it in dry with no prep. Would hardly call that considerate.

    Nobodyhome June 18, 2024 10:19 pm
    What did I not understand? Even in the side stories, when seme fantasizes about sex he’s shoving it in dry with no prep. Would hardly call that considerate. Grey Goo

    U didn’t understand the characters and especially YJ. Also u didn’t read the Author’s Note either. Sunwoo no longer feels pain, and YJ is getting good at it. I suppose this discussion won’t make any sense to u because u missed all the above.

Grey Goo June 16, 2024 6:21 pm

I will NEVER understand the yaoi trend of making the victim, the person who was tortured and raped, be the one to chase after and comfort their abuser bc it’s revealed the abuser has a sad backstory. The backstory wasn’t even bad enough or in no way explained why this man suddenly thought “guess I’ll drug and rape my childhood crush”. There was 0 redemption, 0 effort from the seme to actually earn forgiveness. He just gets it gift wrapped to him. If the rape was going to be so easily glossed and gotten over, it didn’t need to be there. Seme could have just confined him while still giving him the omega drug, without rape. And NOTHING would change because the rape doesn’t impact how the uke feels about the seme at all (being in love with him after everything bc the author said so, not because it made sense). What a waste of time this was.

    nourish June 16, 2024 7:12 pm

    As someone who's been reading yaoi/romance for over 10 years now, all I can tell you is that when I was younger, I thought the same. Now that I'm older, all I can say is that all that weird shit is just kink. Sometimes the author doesn't even realize it--creating art is a very personal thing and pieces of yourself can slip through whether you want it to or not. Art is a safe way of exploring those kinks (rape fantasies are a kink (and may be a coping mechanism for rape victims) since no one actually wants to be raped). Some people don't care if they subject others to their kinks (like a certain famous movie director who has a feet kink, for example, or how rape can be sexualized in media).

    ...Sorry for the long comment. If it helps, rape kink has been around for a VERY long time and has its roots back to when romance first started as a genre because of puritanical attitudes around sex.

    Uh, to be clear, I didn't bother reading this manga. I did skim through the comments to see if I'd be interested in this and I'm not touching this.

    Grey Goo June 16, 2024 7:23 pm
    As someone who's been reading yaoi/romance for over 10 years now, all I can tell you is that when I was younger, I thought the same. Now that I'm older, all I can say is that all that weird shit is just kink. S... nourish

    I understand rape kinks and won’t hate a story just for including it, I understand kinks are a thing. I mean the very specific plot point of the victim of the rape coddling and comforting the rapist with 0 redemption or character growth from the attacker. I hate when the rapist is forgiven for everything they’ve done because le sad. When “Hit on by a Kinky Guy” is probably the most rape fetish yaoi to ever exist, and even it managed to avoid this trope. And only had the victim forgive/overcome the rape after a LOT of development from the abuser. A sad backstory can explain why the abuser behaves a certain way, but I hate when it’s used as an excuse. Having a rape kink also isn’t an excuse for bad plot beats. If an author chooses to write porn with plot, instead of just porn, readers can criticize the plot they write.

    nourish June 16, 2024 8:39 pm
    I understand rape kinks and won’t hate a story just for including it, I understand kinks are a thing. I mean the very specific plot point of the victim of the rape coddling and comforting the rapist with 0 re... Grey Goo

    I agree with what you said, but sometimes people just want easy porn??? Trash? Not everything can be... Great. Or even good.

    I mean, kink can be weird. Sometimes writers don't know how to go from A to B to Kink?? Or something... I don't know why I'm trying to defend bad writing.

    Anywho, reading about rape recovery is pretty tough stuff to both read and/or write. Depending on how it's written, I'd personally have to be in a good headspace to read it.

    When stuff like this get published, it does make me wonder. Does the author know the psychology of a rape victim? Do they understand how recovery works? How much of this is cultural? What does the author's culture say about sex? About gay people? Or maybe it's the author's attempt at self-therapy of some kind? A wish fulfillment? Is it just for the porn? Is it Capitalism getting its disgusting hands on a product with potential?

    I guess thinking of all that stuff is my own attempt at wish fulfillment to better understand why things like this exists?

Grey Goo June 16, 2024 4:43 pm

This one more than others really felt like a lot of development was missing when the sex scenes were cut. That’s because these sex scenes follow plot beats and character development. They have actual dialogue that is more than sex sounds. Going to pause on reading though and wait for it all to come out for a good binge session.

Grey Goo June 16, 2024 4:35 pm

“Anyway, how’s your sex life?” - Woomin literally the day before to a man he barely knows and what he DOES know is that he hates touch and getting close to people. Doc has every right to avoid him. He’s no different from the creepy guys who hit on baristas at work.

Grey Goo June 16, 2024 3:06 pm

Why is the author having everyone guilt trip the uke for not immediately trusting and relying on the man who raped him and doesn’t care if they’re caught fucking in front of his daughter? Like, the author is painting the uke like he’s the one in the wrong. AND they had him fall for seme just… because? Bet anything the uke apologizes to seme. This is trash writing. I think this actually meets the definition of romanticized rape.

Grey Goo June 15, 2024 3:04 pm

Read the raws and ML is just straight up insane. He tells MC he fell in love with him at first sight and that he’ll never let him go. He also genuinely does not seem to understand why MC hates him and would kill him if he could (dude is made of steel and tanked every blow MC dealt when he tried). This is definitely not going to have a happy ending. Likely MC’s friend dies (the friend is also crazy obsessed with MC) and MC just learns to cope with the ML.

Raws are up to chapter 17 and there hasn’t been much progress. MC definitely has hemroids now though. The dude in the tank top that was going to rape MC’s friend is now obsessed with raping MC. MC and Friend are plotting an escape, but I don’t see them getting far. ML likely has some kind of ability that lets him influence the zombies.

Gonna keep reading bc I really like the MC. Its rare to see the bottom physically fight back against their rapist and hold them accountable. Also seeing the MC not get hard when ML was thigh fucking him felt strangely refreshing. I like that the MC isn’t all “I hate him and don’t want this but… it feels so good *blushu*” can’t stand that trope… though I will say the scene of ML essentially over stimulating MC with bjs and handies until he was completely soaked was hot. Also looking forward to MC’s escape attempt and how ML reacts.

    I am a weeb June 15, 2024 3:16 pm

    Do you see the author this was never going to be happy ╥﹏╥

    gravy June 15, 2024 3:22 pm
    Do you see the author this was never going to be happy ╥﹏╥ I am a weeb

    I'm still hoping since Love Shuttle and Hyanghyeon Text were both good and had satisfying endings ╥﹏╥

    Natthebrat June 15, 2024 3:24 pm

    Could you share the link to raws please?

    Flat_Initial June 15, 2024 3:35 pm
    Do you see the author this was never going to be happy ╥﹏╥ I am a weeb

    God i recognised the art and they are REALLY into rape aren't they?

    Grey Goo June 15, 2024 4:05 pm
    Could you share the link to raws please? Natthebrat

    https://newtoki341.com/webtoon/39394437?toon=BL%2FGL

    I am a weeb June 15, 2024 5:06 pm
    I'm still hoping since Love Shuttle and Hyanghyeon Text were both good and had satisfying endings ╥﹏╥ gravy

    That true but still

    Dorko June 15, 2024 5:27 pm

    Do they ever explain why he does so much for the friend?

    Sleep deprived June 15, 2024 5:31 pm

    Where do you read the raws???

Grey Goo June 15, 2024 11:03 am

They managed to make the MC so unlikeable I don’t care what happens to him. Would honestly prefer instead of sex, the ML just absolutely ruin MC’s life and email the company the video and pics of him acting like a dog. Someone like MC should never have a good job again. Clearly he can’t handle the power.

    i love fentanyl June 16, 2024 1:09 pm

    i actually really like the mc, im kinda roooting for him

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