I feel like dokja in the beginning is so cold and removed from the world, just like a reader reading a novel. But as the story goes on he slowly changes and really sees how the ones around him are real people and not just characters.
And then he becomes suicidal for them
*coughs* lol
Hes not suicidal, more like the ultimate definition of sacrificial lamb; Kim Dokja lmao
True true
I love that the comments make you think the manga is about ASMR or something like that when the reality it's about brutal murders lmao. Anw, waiting for updates!
I love this webtoon and i know that jasper is hurt but... this is not how you should act towards someone who is suicidal. Pushing them away and threatening to cut off the only safe place they have, what good would that do? Jasper is rightfully hurt because hart used him, but he should've heard him out first. Maybe he thinks that it's okay to leave hart alone since he's incapable to get hurt physically, but how about mentally? Acting like that eventhough he knows hart is depressed and suicidal is just wrong :(
I love yamashita tomoko's works to pieces. I doubted this manga at first, because the plot was a lot like the classic yaoi trope of "possessive and controlling seme abusing the uke's trust" with exorcism as replacement for the sexual scenes. I disliked hiyakawa at first and how he'd manipulate and use mikado without his consent, and i hated how mikado couldn't just leave hiyakawa.
But then i read on, and by the time i'm on volume 2 or so i realized that it's not about that AT ALL. Now that i've read 42 chapters, i understood that things weren't that black and white.
I understood why hiyakawa was like that towards mikado, and why mikado was unable to leave him alone. To begin with, the nature of those two's relationship wasn't something that could be easily categorized as toxic or non-toxic. It wasn't as simple as "that person had a shitty childhood so he became abusive" and "that one was lonely so he stayed with his abuser". It's something you need to read and think for yourself to be able to determine.
The reasoning behind each character's flaws is so well written. While it was apparent when a character did something bad, i also could understand how easy it was for them to make the wrong decisions given the situations they were in. And the more i read, the more i fell in love with the characters and the depth they have.
I'm reminded of when hiyakawa said that for him the movie "exorcist" was not a horror movie, but a profound study of human relationship. I feel like this manga is a lot like that.
All in all this is what i always want: a well written BL manga with a cool premise that focuses on the story rather than the character's sexuality.
I completely agree!! I think the only thing that would make it better is if there were more scenes of them spending time together/growing closer/getting to know each other or interacting than just focusing so much on the plot. By that I mean ALL the characters, not just the main two, I wish there was a little more what people would call “filler” content to flesh out the characters more outside of the main plot, so I wish there was more sub plot.
You're right, i do wish the group had interacted more, and much earlier. Both mukae and erika were introduced a little bit late into the story, and was it volume 5 or 6 when the five of them started spending time together? I forgot lmao. But then again i feel like the progression of the story is at the right pace given the nature of their relationship? Because i feel like mikado is the only person who connects the five of them together, and all side characters' interaction with the hiyakawa-mikado duo depends on his character development & understanding about the "other" world.
That’s true, I was also thinking there wasn’t a lot of room for it due to the progression of all the relationships. But I guess I just wish the story had more room for it :( I would like to hopefully see progression moving forward! I really can’t tell if the story is at the halfway point or nearing the end lol. Feels like it’s getting closer to the final conflict but at the same time it doesn’t and they have to bond more before then...we can only wait and see
Same! I hope to see them bond more.
Also, cmiiw but i think the series already ended with 57 chapters (it was serialized in a magazine). The tankobon itself is currently at the 9th volume and will end at the 10th. So, 15 chapters to go!
Oh okay, thanks for the info!
The passive-aggresive homophobia is off the charts in this one. It's as if the author was like BEING HOMO IS BAD unless it's for fantasizing 2 hot dudes going at it like rabbits BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE BEING GAY IS LIKE THE WORST NIGHTMARE EVER YOU'D WISH YOU'D NEVER BEEN BORN anw they're in love and having sex but HOMO BAD. Fr by the time the family was like "oh well, being called gay IS unpleasant but what can you do if you gotta have gay sex, you gotta" i was already losing a lung laughing my ass off.
I also feel this while reading
Pls explain to me because im dumb why did ryou love konomi that much in the first place? It's not like he spent years with konomi in the past before got thrown back to the future. He only spent like two weeks or so in the past and saw how cute his dad at 14 (yikes) was and that was it.
Had it been just misguided lust because both of them were lost, lonely and only had each other then i would've understood them sleeping together. But them falling in love that deeply, even after the time slip ended?
Konomi i guess i can understand, he didn't know ryou was his son from the future and he was losing his mind after ryou disappeared, so it makes some sense that he still held feelings for him.
But what about ryou? He said that he didn't see young konomi as his dad, so i get why he slept with him amidst his confusion caused by the time slip. At the same time he also had father issues, so i get that he was happy to receive the affection he'd never had before, but how did that turn into such burning love? Even after coming back to the future and meeting konomi as his dad, why did ryou still love him in that way? Why did he want to become lovers with his dad so badly? I can't understand his reasoning at all someone pls make it make sense.
I mean personally I don't really think is about how much time they spend eith his dad in the past it's about how they did it. In my opinion time doesn't really matter to fall in love. He probably just fell a connection there.
They really fell hard for each other and it's sad that they are father and son but it happened
Well I think they were what each other really needed in their lives they just completed
Hmmm... i guess im still not convinced. Maybe the manga did a bad job in showing that connection? It seems to me like what happened between them isn't enough for that strong of emotion (especially in ryou's part since he's totally aware that it's his dad). Because personally, i think someone needs a really strong push to start seeing their dad as a potential lover, you know? Dont get me wrong, i like the manga and i think the author did a good job in portraying the forbidden love, but i'm just not convinced in how they fell in love in the first place.
It was really good up to the moment jasper found hart's diary. The writing fell apart, jasper became unnecessarily cruel and they barely talked their shit out before (i cant believe this) the writer pulled the soap opera trope where they got hit by a car.
The resolution was poorly written and felt rushed. It was foreshadowed that they knew each other before and it should have been monumental since it was the reason why their luck were so imbalanced, but i completely lost my interest towards the end of the story that i couldn't feel even an ounce of relief after the revelation.
Disappointed because i used to love this series enough to buy the chapters, but the ending just ruined it for me. Still an okay read tho.