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HEAVY ON THE RAISING A GROWN ASS MAN LMAOOOO

lol, u forgot that he also assaulted the top. smh

No i didn't, i also did not forget that woowon was telling seoan to stop because woowon was worried that seoan would hurt himself cuz he was trying to forcefully insert woowon's giant ass manhood inside himself .. so woowon basically told him to stop out of concern that he's gonna tear seoan without any preparation.. i hope i got my message across..

??? let’s not act like seoan only went through so much. yeah, he had it rough, no one’s denying that but he also did wrong. like straight up assaulted woowon. and the way people keep calling him pitiful as if that erases what he did? nah. he wanted woowon to lean into him and depend on him, and when that actually happened, suddenly it’s “he’s raising a fully grown man”? that’s not woowon’s fault. he tolerated it. he enabled it. you deserve what you tolerate.

also that part where you said “the amount of time he said to wait and stop while being intimate is mentally hurting me” like okay, but didn’t he also ignore woowon saying the same thing to him? the double standard is just... meh.

Did you not read what I wrote or are you just gonna act dumb here? Woowon said stop just "once" because it was hurting seoan, its not because woowon was in pain moron... He never said no to the sex, but he was more concerned for Seoan's well-being...Please up your comprehensive skills a bit....
Actually just admit that you are a Seoan hater at this point lol.. the way you phrased "seoan wanted it" sounds damn nasty.. seoan wanted him to lean on him true but that doesn't mean what woowon did was right either, thats in a way toxic.. and its a fact that he's practically raising him at this point, giving him shelter, financial support and what not...

lol it’s actually ironic how you're calling me dumb, a moron, and telling me to “up my comprehensive skills” when you didn’t even get what i said?? (LMFAO) and i literally worded it SIMPLY. like, how did you miss the point that hard?

i never said woowon said stop because he was in pain, i know he said it because he was worried about seoan. but that’s not even what i was pointing out. my point was, seoan DIDN'T listen. and whether it’s out of care or not, “stop” is still STOP. if roles were reversed, y’all would be dragging woowon to hell and back. but because it’s seoan, suddenly it’s fine? okay.

also, saying “seoan wanted him to lean on him” being “nasty” is wild to me. like… that’s literally what happened? he wanted to be the one woowon could rely on. now that he’s doing it, you’re calling woowon toxic and acting like seoan didn’t sign up for this? LMFAOOO

anyway, instead of throwing insults maybe read what people are actually saying first. it’s not that deep to understand that seoan can be both pitiful and problematic.


*made some word uppercase bec u dumb asf

Wtf are you yapping about now?? Woowon literally raped him in the recent chapter while being in the process of having sex and you are comparing it with the consensual sex they had before?? seoan didn't listen and woowon manhandled him afterwards...so they both had consensual sex after that..woowon practically rammed him real good, it wasn't assault nor was it a rape you idiot..go reread from chap 59-61 cuz your brain seems quite slow to me..."Saying stop is STOP"- wtf does that mean XD ? Are you on crack or something? Get some help instead of loitering around here trying to justify rape with you shitty ass clapbacks.. just because a partner wants their other half to lean on them, you are saying they have to cope with getting raped and taken advantage of now? Disgusting

Tbh the sex scene between chapters 59-61 was forceful, sudden and also due to Seoan’s anger which is a form of stability. If you consider the most recent chapter rape you should also hold this sex scene to the same standards, although woowon did end up going with the sex he even said himself that he wanted to calm Seoan down more than anything. It’s similar in sentiment although not as noticeable because woowon is a pushover unlike seoan. They both have their fair share of toxicity, of course with none of it ever being ok.

I mean *instability

Yes it was sudden and started as being forceful. I agree with you, it was also anger induced in Seoan's part, but through this i think the only person that ended up harmed would have been seoan, which is like someone inflicting self harm to themselves.. and woowon understood that.. woowon's purpose was to calm him down and his stop and nos' were also for Seoan's sake...rape is something done on an individual forcefully without their consent that traumatise and hurts them both physically and mentally and if you think about it woowon was never against the sex but rather he was against hurting seoan in the process. Its because i understood the sentiment that im saying that in the recent chapter it turned forceful in the midway through their intercourse, it was hurting seoan .. woowon disregarded his continuous pleas and even the starting of the sex was quite forceful.. im not saying seoan was a saint cuz he has his fair share of flaws but what he did is nowhere compared to what woowon did.... Say for example if it was a hetero sexual relationship and seoan was a woman then no way anyone could have compared it.. because a man forcing themselves on a woman is an complete act of rape no matter how anyone tries to justify it.. here woowon's act is considered a rape just like that.
but what if the woman tried to forcefully have sex with the man then what? Ever thought about that? In law terms and rules a woman is not capable of committing rape, and their version is considered as sexual assault because for rape someone needs to insert and penetrate the other person's private areas (vagina/anus) forcefully without consent that inflicts injury and trauma.. so now come to this story, what seoan did can be considered as an assault if he was forceful and woowon was completely against it from the starting to the end.. but after woowon confronted seoan he himself manhandled him and then they had sex , even if you say woowon didn't want it he finished it till the end.. now this can be assault for you and nothing for me... But comparing this to what woowon did in the recent chapter is completely invalid as it satisfied every element that needs for it to be termed as rape ..
Didn't want to write such a long reply but your reply was reasonable and I understand where you are coming from as a lay person but as a law student myself I thought people really need to know which one is rape and what is not.. otherwise every disagreement will be considered as rape..

You seriously think bottoms can’t be rapist ? That is insane. Yeah I disagree.

Excuse me i never said that? I said the two events are completely different which you tried to portray as the same... Bottoms also have dicks so they surely can of they want.. i don't care what you agree or disagree... I stand by what i said unless you can prove it logically and lawfully impossible to me.. end of this discussion..

u said it yourself that 'it was sudden and started as being forceful' it you don't consider it as rape? that's some retarded brainded shit af. go get your brain check, just bec you love the art or the manhwa doesn't mean you'll have to excuse their actions?? you all wrote that shit just to defend a rapist? dawg, the bar is in hell.

people really out here writing essays defending scenes they themselves admit were “sudden” and “forceful” like that magically cancels it out?? nah. this is peak brainrot behavior, ngl

having “sudden,” “forceful,” and “not an assault” in the same sentence is exactly what a brain-rotted take looks like. i don’t care if you’re a law student, that just makes it more embarrassing, LMFAO. you can absolutely study law and still be an IDIOT. degrees don’t fix DELUSIONS.

you’re out here twisting basic definitions like consent and assault to protect a fictional character, while sounding like a walking CONTRADICTION. it’s giving “i read one paragraph in my textbook and now i think I’m untouchable.”

hate to break it to you, but in any actual legal circle, you’d be a laughingstock. a disgrace. imagine saying “it was sudden and forceful” but then turning around to go “but it’s not assault, trust me i study law.” bro. please.

I didn’t try to portray them as the same, although woowons rape is more upfront and obvious what Seoan did to woowon was rape as well. Sex without proper consent is rape no matter what situation, even if it’s a woman forcing a mans dick in her. It’s really not that complicated and idgaf what the law in your country considers rape, the judicial system fails people all the time and you should know that specially if you’re a law student lol

You don't know what rape is ... Rape and sexual assault are different shit.. talking to people like you makes me feel like I'm talking to cave mans ... Get some proper knowledge and then come and talk

@stewie bitch go read the definition of rape first.. blocking me won't make you look like you won the argument.. you don't even know whats rape and sexual assault... Fucking prick... I don't wanna argue with uneducated swines like you.. you are the real life laughing stock of this society.. get some education or something instead of blindly defending rapists...

And none of my statements contradict one another.. woowon did engage in consensual sex even though he was against for Seoan's sake at first.. that sex was consensual.. and consensual sex can never be called assault or rape.. getting your fucking facts straight first.. i keep writing the same shit over and over again.. what is this crack head behavior? Whats so hard to understand? I swear all kinda brainless morons comes here and can't even get their facts right... Know the difference between all kinds of sexual assault first and then come argue with me...

Lmfao, I know you’d be a good lawyer because you’re really good at spouting bullshit. (≧∀≦)

If you don't care then don't come here trying to force you illogical common sense on other people cuz what you perceive as right is actually wrong in societal standard...

And? society hates gay rights yet YOURE still here reading this shit

And its not just the law in my country every freaking country says the same shit.. rape can only be committed when a man penetrate their dick forcefully on another.. its the same for every single country... Its hard to see you talk so much about rape and not knowing that small thing.. this is why women can't commit rape... only men are capable of rape...and here Seoan's the one in the receiving end...so yeah he's the only one in the relationship that will be capable of getting rape if its forceful.....Go get a proper idea on what rape is instead of arguing here with me..

I really don’t give a shit about what a dumb ass government law has to say about rape when they ignore the majority of allegations and make a safe place for rapists and pedos alike

@nuts

@nuts what is it with you people blocking other when you can't make any valid points ?

@nuts if you don't give a shit then don't come to force your illogical opinion on others, you look like a tantrum throwing princess... Majority of you don't know how complicated this topic is, so you're just saying whatever comes to your mind... Its because you keep being oblivious to this and think whatever comes to your mind is the right thing that rape is being so easily ignored in the society.. fake rape cases are the reason society thinks its a joke now... So its actually not the law but you majority that made this topic a laughing stock.. nobody takes it seriously nowadays... And you people are the ones defend real rapist while blame the victims or try to find faults in the victims like you are doing now.. but yeah whatever floats your boat as long as your favs are being portrayed as innocent...

????

calling yourself a law student? embarrassing, what a disgrace

Is education illegal in your country?? Looks like you don't even have common sense...Like you are the one defending a rapist here and you are pointing figures at me??? You are defending woowon who literally committed rape like wtf are you taking expired weeds or something?? Your ass needs jail time tbh because you are pretending to be all slick but you are directly defending a rapist.. you couldn't even get a single valid point and spouting nonsense since the very beginning.. you don't know 2 shits about consent and creating a drama here... You are lucky that you get to write so much crap online because if you were in front of me face to face you wouldn't stand a chance talking all that shit... Sudden and forceful indeed but that doesn't make it rape , rape is so easy for you but it needs to satisfy all the elements.. whatever, why the fck im explaining this to a dumbass like you who doesn't even have proper education... Go get a life or something rapist defender ...

I have dealt with people like you before, a degenerate like you doesn't have much values so Im not gonna point out the obvious but im not calling myself anything.. its you who's embarrassingly trying to victimize a rapist ... So you are the disgusting one here

how do you even call yourself a “law student” when you can’t comprehend the very simple words i wrote? where in any of my replies did I defend anyone? i’ve literally been calling both characters out. but apparently reading between the lines is too advanced for the self-proclaimed legal genius.

you’re throwing around words like “rapist defender” and “expired weed” while missing the entire point. all because someone dared to say that seoan isn’t innocent either. if this is how a future lawyer argues with no reading comprehension and all bark, then yeah, the world is doomed fr. law student my ass, more like brainrot dumbass retarded idiot

you’ve “dealt with people like me” before? yeah, people who actually read and make valid points — no wonder you're so triggered lmao. I don’t need to “victimize a rapist” because I never did. you just can’t accept that both characters were in the wrong, and you're too deep in your bias to read properly.

you said you’re not calling yourself anything, but you literally pulled the “law student” card to try and sound more credible — and still flopped. embarrassing. calling people degenerate and disgusting doesn’t make your argument any stronger, it just shows you lost the plot.

you’re out here confidently saying “only men can commit rape” and “women can’t rape” like it’s some universal truth, when in reality, that’s one of the most outdated and dangerous takes I’ve ever seen. and you’re saying this as a so-called law student? embarrassing isn’t even the word it’s terrifying.

rape is about lack of consent, not just penetration. and yes, women can rape. so can bottoms. so can anyone, regardless of gender or role, when consent is ignored. the fact that you're still stuck on the idea that only the person with a penis can be a rapist is genuinely disturbing.

you’re NOT JUST WRONG, YOU'RE IGNORANT, and worse, you’re spreading that ignorance while parading your 'aw student' badge like it gives you authority. it doesn’t. it only highlights how deeply UNQUALIFIED you are to speak on anything related to consent, law, or morality.

you called me a moron, but you're the one proudly saying things that are literally disproven in international law and modern legal systems. your mindset is the exact reason why so many survivors stay silent because people like you only recognize assault when it fits your outdated view of what it “should” look like.

if this is the future of law, then god help us all.

Lol excuse me you have been defending woowon from the very beginning wtf are you on about now.. and I didn't tell you that im a law student i said that to the other idiot.. so now that your irrelevant points are not making sense you are resorting to personal attacks?? Shame on people like you... You really are a proper degenerate ... And you tried to say both committed rape i said no seoan didn't because he's not capable of doing it, but now you are saying something else?? You exaggerated the consensual sex they had between the chapters 59-61 and called it rape where it wasn't and now you are saying you just pointed out how both of them are wrong? You are such a 2 standard liar...

And its obvious who is triggered I'm not the one making personal attacks on someone just because my reasonings are not getting through lol

lmfao now you’re rewriting your own words just to save face? you literally called yourself a law student when replying to someone if you didn’t want people quoting it, maybe don’t say it in a public thread. own it.

and yes, I’ve been CONSISTENT: i said from the beginning that both characters were in the wrong — i pointed out seoan's actions back in chap 60 before you even acknowledged them. the fact that you’re still out here saying “seoan can’t commit rape” just proves how little you understand about consent, power, and accountability.

you say i'm lying and switching points, but all you’ve done is deflect, twist your own words, and throw insults when you can’t keep up. you say i exaggerated a scene? LMFAO your words were “it was sudden and started as being forceful.” that CAME from YOU. i just didn’t excuse it like YOU DID.

so yeah, shame on people like me? nah. shame on people like you

not you saying “i’m not making personal attacks” when you were the first one calling me a moron, a dumbass, degenerate, and even told me i needed jail time lmfao. the audacity is insane. you really out here playing victim now that people are holding a mirror up to your mess? you threw slurs and insults the second someone disagreed with you, and now you’re pretending to be calm and rational? be serious.

Im not gonna read your bullshit and keep arguing with you.. i didn't read all those books for years on rape and its vast terminologies to come here and talk with a idiot who thinks women assaulting someone sexually is called rape... You don't know what you are talking about you just saying whatever comes to your mind at this point.. and no i didn't make the rules its the universal law that they can't rape... Go Google it or something im not here to educate you... You don't know shits about laws regarding this vast topic so keep it out of your mouth ... Im talking facts and you are talking bullshit that you cooked up... The things i said are the actual law of every freaking country its not what i think neither it's my views.. you yet access to all sorts of stuff online so i can't believe people like you exist that can't even check their facts right.. its not outdated views rather its the rules...

oh i get it now you’re not “that bright” LMFAOOOOOO because you’re too busy dodging your own mistakes to actually face them. lmfao. all that loud barking about laws and “facts” but the second someone challenges you with actual logic, suddenly it’s “i’m not gonna read your bullshit”? yeah, because you can’t, not without admitting you fumbled hard.

keep pretending it’s “universal law” if that helps you sleep at night, but the real issue here is that you’re just mad you got called out and can’t handle it. that’s why you’re spiraling instead of debating.

You have distorted your statements a countless times by now, by saying seoan raped woowon and then went on to say seoan needs to tolerate it because he accepted woowon to lean on him and then you moved on to say both of them were wrong .. why so many distortion ?? Can't stick to one ? Seoan is in the receiving end in the relationship so yes he can't rape but he can commit assault if he wants.. but both of them had consensual sex so its not considered rape or assault.. i literally wrote this same shit a million times by now and you are still acting dumb... Go research on this topic or something instead of trying to distort amd twist what these terms are... Because your dumbness is hurting my brain...

you keep saying i’m distorting my points but the only one twisting things here is you. it’s honestly wild how you still can’t read between the lines. i never said seoan deserved to be raped — what i actually said was, you calling him pitiful for “raising a grown man” is ironic because he’s the one who literally told woowon to lean on him. he offered that role. so yeah, don’t act like it was forced on him — he chose it. and when you willingly take on that emotional burden, saying “he’s pitiful” just doesn’t hit the way you think it does. that’s the “deserve what you tolerate” part. not the assault. don’t twist my words just because you can’t keep up.

also, you keep screaming “i said this a million times” like repetition makes your argument more correct — it doesn’t. what it really shows is you can’t actually respond to what’s being said, so you just keep yelling louder and insulting people’s intelligence to cover it up.

maybe if you actually read my replies instead of foaming at the mouth, your brain wouldn’t hurt so much.

now, who's the dumbass here, isn't it u? the law student who doesn't have any comprehension

You keep barking like you said something valid.. makes me wanna laugh

Wait where in the fucking hell i ever said seoan is pitiful?? Why are you straight out lying now.. i said he goes through so much shit but that doesn't make him pitiful.. excuse me but i don't think you even remember what you write.. i never called seoan pitiful

Go back and show me where i called seoan pitiful... Because this is terrifying how easily you are twisting my words

I keep Repeating it cuz you guys don't know what it means and keep pointing out weird shits you cooked up... Thats not how it works sorry to burst your bubble... Go search it up or something Google is practically free for you dumb people.. rape can't be committed by women thats a rule and i didn't make it... Its the universal law.. and also seoan is the one getting done here so in this relationship he can't do it..

Im insulting your intelligence because you have none... You are so lazy to find out the truth to the point you are just saying whatever comes to your mind.. your sense of justice is not the same as how society perceive it.. and you are refusing to accept that

And you actually said what seoan did was rape lol.. i can even copy paste you reply... Now you are denying the fact that you said it .. damn
And no people don't tolerate bullshit a d toxic behavior from their partners just because they said they can lean on them... This is outrageous that you think this is right... this just shows how little you care about the people that are being abused in a relationship

And show me where i twisted my points?? Im still sticking to the same things i said..
From chap 59-61 - their making out started as rage induced and forceful from Seoan's side, woowon tried to stop him because he was worried Seoan's ass gonna tear, but then woowon manhandled him to stop and calmed Seoan down then they did have consensual sex... It wasn't rape, it wasn't assault, it was CONSENSUAL..
The recent chapter: woowon forcefully kissed him and they started making out , but then woowon again manhandled seoan and started having sex then seoan told him to stop because he was hurting or feeling weird but he didn't he continued.. and them again seoan told him several times but he continues anyway.. this is called rape in a relationship... Get it now??? And no way in hell this should be tolerated in any relationship...
I have been sticking to the same exact point but you keep jumping from one end to another... And then came here to say i twisted your words? And then you keep lying consistently saying i called seoan pitiful.. when was that?? I said he goes through a lot because of the circumstances he's in... You keep saying bulls crap as if the world revolves around you.. you are now making up new laws and rules for rape and shit .. like bruhhhh

you know what? i’m not even mad anymore. this is just sad at this point. the way you genuinely think you're making sense while missing the entire point over and over again is... honestly disturbing. you’ve thrown insults, tried to flex your so-called law knowledge, and still managed to misunderstand basic reading comprehension.

no one said you literally used the word “pitiful.” we said you framed seoan as pitiful by going on and on about how much he’s “going through,” how he’s “raising a grown man,” and how he’s the one we should feel sorry for. that’s the tone you set, even if the word wasn’t there. it’s not a lie — it’s just reading between the lines. which clearly, you struggle with.

you keep shouting that “rape can only be committed by men” like it’s some universal law, when in reality, you’ve been corrected multiple times with real-world examples, legal definitions, and direct sources from actual international laws. but instead of considering those, you double down and say “google it” — while you continue to post the most outdated, dangerous garbage with your whole chest.

you’re out here quoting chapters as if we didn’t all read the same thing. you yourself said the scene in 59–61 started as rage-induced and forceful. and yet, you’re the one trying to say that’s totally fine and consensual? but suddenly in the more recent chapter, when the roles are reversed, now it’s “unacceptable and clearly rape”? this isn't consistency — it's bias, plain and simple. and the fact that you keep claiming you're being logical while failing to grasp your own contradictions is honestly embarrassing.

what’s more sad is how you keep accusing me of “jumping around” when i’ve said the same thing this entire time: both characters have done wrong. that’s not switching sides — that’s holding both accountable. something you clearly can't do without exploding.

so no, i’m not making up laws, twisting anything, or lying about your words. i’m just reading what you wrote — and it’s not a good look. if this is how you interpret consent, power dynamics, and abuse while calling yourself a law student, then yeah — society’s in trouble.

i’m done arguing with someone who clearly isn’t here for discourse, just projection and ego. good luck living in that echo chamber. you'll need it.

Honestly, at this point, it’s clear this isn’t just a disagreement, it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of legal definitions, power dynamics, and what accountability looks like in a complex relationship. To clarify one thing, rape is not universally defined as something only a man can commit. That claim is legally inaccurate and ethically outdated. Many countries recognize that rape can be committed by anyone, regardless of gender or sexual role. If you're going to cite legal standards, you should at least verify that your statements align with actual laws not just assumptions. Saying, “It’s the same in every country,” is not only factually wrong, it’s honestly embarrassing. My country, for one, acknowledges more inclusive and realistic definitions and it’s not “pathetic” for doing so. As for the rest, Stewie never said Seoann deserved to be assaulted. They said both parties have done harm, and highlighting one’s trauma doesn’t erase their wrongdoing especially when that trauma is used to excuse harmful behavior. That’s not twisting anything; it’s simply applying accountability consistently, not selectively. If someone tells their partner to stop during intimacy and that’s ignored, that is not okay, no matter which character does it. That’s the point. And if you genuinely believe otherwise, then yes, that’s a concerning take to hold, especially if you're claiming to be a law student. In short, no one’s twisting your words. People are reading what you’re saying and pointing out the contradictions in how you apply them.

you should've wrote it in simple words! watch em can't comprehend it again and again

You're so right, I should've! Reading this thread really feels like watching the creator argue with a mirror. Hahahha

Where are you from? As you mentioned not every country holds this as the same regard and gave your country as an example then i need to know so that i can show you what your country perceive as rape... Rape has a specific definition, anything outside that is not rape , this rule can not be charged no matter where you are from and i gave just a basic idea of the rule.. i can verify my statement through real statutory definition and rules.. because it is not my "assumption"... As im from uk under section 42 of the sexual offence act 2003 it gives the definition of rape , you can search it if you want.. under section 74 of the sexual offence act 2003 it gives the definition of consent and what constitute as consent... I can cite common law cases too but you are not gonna search and read those huge case laws i know so im just giving you the statutory citations...
Here what you guys are calling rape is completely different from how rape is perceived.. this is why lay people dont understand these facts because they are driven by emotions and the primary concept of it...
Giving consent can invalidate anything as rape.. thats exactly what woowon did by giving his consent to the previous chapters 59-61...he said no out of concern for seoan..so seoan doesn't get hurt but the he managed to calm him down and the sex finished with both of them giving green sign to sex and consent....this is why this even cannot be compared to the recent one.... so no matter what any one says even though it started forceful or not you can't hold seoan accountable for committing rape because 1, woowon gave consent so it becomes consensual and 2, woowon is the one penetrating him...
And i don't think you read all 40 comments because stew did say what seoan did was rape and he tried to justify woowon's act because i said seoan goes through a lot ... trying to justify that what woowon did is right indirectly by bringing up the previous event which wasn't even a rape though it was filled with misunderstandings is completely outrageous... I don't think people without the knowledge of what suffice as rape or not will understand the depth of this crime... So tagging someone as rapist is as serious as invalidating the crime...

You are completely coo-coo and have shit for a brain so don't even try please.. get lost and cry over your personal hate thread because you need validation to live your life..

Thank you for sharing the legal references from the UK Sexual Offences Act 2003. I acknowledge that statutory definitions provide an important framework, but it’s also crucial to recognize that legal definitions alone don’t fully capture the complexities of consent and power dynamics, especially in nuanced interpersonal relationships. Consent is not simply a one-time “green light” that permanently invalidates any later claim of assault or coercion. Consent given under pressure, fear, or confusion especially in a context of force or emotional manipulation may not meet the standard of freely given, enthusiastic consent recognized in both law and ethics. Your explanation that Woowon’s prior consent “invalidates” any claims of rape in subsequent interactions overlooks how consent must be ongoing and can be withdrawn at any time. The fact that Woowon initially said “NO” to Seoan out of concern is a significant indicator that consent was not freely given in that moment. The circumstances you describe suggest a more complex interaction than a simple binary of “consensual” or “not consensual.” Furthermore, focusing solely on the mechanics of penetration ignores that sexual assault and rape can be perpetrated by individuals regardless of gender or anatomy, and can include coercion and abuse of power, which is why the conversation about bottoms or women being rapists is relevant here. Lastly, dismissing people’s concerns as “emotional” or “lack of knowledge” risks oversimplifying a serious and sensitive issue. Also, it's quite embarrassing to claim that “every country defines rape the same way,” especially given recent legal developments that directly contradict this assertion. For example, the Supreme Court of the Philippines recently ruled that genital contact is not required to prove attempted rape, broadening the legal understanding of the crime beyond mere penetration. This clearly shows that definitions of rape vary significantly across jurisdictions, and blanket statements like yours undermine the complexity of international law. It’s important to recognize such nuances rather than make sweeping generalizations that don’t hold up to scrutiny.

isn't it embarrassed living in uk, an english country yet still lacks comprehension? girl, lol.

You still didn't mention where you are from and completely disregarded it...that says how you are trying to hide it so that I can't show you your country's provisions.. To call it a rape not only consent but court sees every other elements in it.. so its not only a matter of consent... And you didn't even read the Philippines case, the rule was about an "attempted" rape not committed rape .. you don't need genital contact for rape that's being attempted.. but to commit a rape you need proper penetration.. lol you missed out the meaning and wording of their verdict and now calling me embarrassing??? And then you said i don't understand comprehension ?? Oh please...Don't try to get smart with me because i know very well what i said prevails in every country... And its not only statutory definition they seeks out they also go through common laws but you don't know that .... I never made any general assumptions its you people that keep on making statements based on whatever seems right to you..

Girl you keep crying at every little thing i say i know more about comprehension than your entire bloodline so save yourself from the trouble of trying to look valid but failing miserably.. you are quite embarrassing at this point... But keep crying thats what gets you going

know more about comprehension you say? but completely missed their own point? hallelujah, bless your soul.

not you out here asking about a strangers country? lmfao??? like that changes the fact you got corrected with actual laws, examples, and real logic. you really thought someone needs to tell you where they live so you can feel right? lmao. isn't that the most pathetic reach ever?

Womp womp you coward too scared that i put you in your place ?
Yeah keep barking

who's putting who?? see how you're speaking nonsense now?

Afaik, the top only had sex with the twink to stop him from having sex with the switch, maybe he didn't like the idea of how the twink talked about his office fantasy with the switch. Anw, u're right abt how they should stop giving the twink all he wants.

Yeah... The top needs to do something about that annoying twink .. just get rid of him already instead of giving him any chance to get involved...

I’m giving him grace because he was a slave his whole life and didn’t know anything about being a royal. He’s meant to be very innocent and naive since the beginning of the story. He’s too kind to everyone and that is what’s probably meant to be his downfall for the plot.

I guess so.. he is quite naive.. and that professor is bad news.. im sure a storm is coming his way..

i agree with you and given the temperament of the crown prince this does not bid well for the crown princess. I assume the prince will be upset when he finds out and who will likely suffer, i hate to admit it but it will be highly likely the MC.

really, i do not like where this is going

Cmiiw but i don't think doram is a slave "his whole life" the thing is... He CAN read, i mean not only CAN read but UNDERSTAND it (remember when he met his professor and he said he already read one or two books). If you're familiar with korean history (yes ofc i know this is a fictional manhwa and not aligned 100% with the real history one) you'd know that even many commoners can't read let alone slave, that's why king sejeong at that time made hangeul system which is like a "simplification" of hanja/hanzi cause at that time korea is still under chinese's rule, all the books he read during his lectures, they were written in hanzi (which is for me myself is much more complicated than hangeul)

If i remember correctly, didn't he say it himself that his family is similar to that of a shaman or like devoted believer to some sacred creature or something(?) i think he at least had a little privilege to own books (=・ω・=)

Yea he was a slave after his family was murdered I think he was around 6 years old when his family was slaughtered that’s why he doesn’t know much and was only able to read two books. So he was a slave for most of his life but lived good around elementary age till his family were called traitors and killed.