the character art is so beautiful i’m mad it’s been used for this story and not something else. like, we won’t see characters that look like this from this artist ever again and it’s just such a waste how much this story pisses me off when the art is this good. like both leewon and caesar are two of the most gorgeously drawn characters i’ve ever seen, but then their characters continue to have zero development, to circle the same conversations, to flip from being domestic to domestically abusive. this chapter could have been a real conversation, but instead it’s stomach-turning rape. again. because the author has zero idea of how to actually develop a character past the initial starting point, how to progress a story, and stick to character traits without hyperbolizing them.
i swear the side stories haven’t made sense since the hunting game they played. it’s better to just look at than read it.
it’s confusing to me how we are 81 chapters into this story and i still find myself asking HOW leewon even likes caesar. it doesn’t make sense—and not in the “love makes you crazy” way. it just doesn’t seem written in any coherent way at this point. which i guess is because the author keeps writing scenes as if progress might possibly have been made only to then take it all back. it’s just disappointing. this chapter in particular is aggravating because of how little sense it makes when you look at the ways caesar has supposedly changed and the strength leewon supposedly has.
If you like Minwoo (the best friend) I’d drop this now. I checked the raws for the last chapter and it’s so over. What’s funny is that even all the Korean comments were on Minwoo’s side The author should never have introduced a better second lead, seriously. Call me when Minwoo gets his own story.
she needs finds a bottom for minwoo soon in s02
On chapter six and wow, they should never have introduced the best friend. How am I meant to like the ML now? Childhood friends who went through trauma is so much juicier than a random pushy alpha who wouldn’t listen to the word “no” and trivialized the MC’s feelings about his first time.
Okay. Decided to read the unofficials and my mind has mostly changed by chapter 25 The best friend is overbearing and so lame. Just do something. SAY SOMETHING. No spine on the second ML.
HEAR ME OUT. By 27 I’m back on the best friend’s side, but the MC clearly doesn’t like him so I guess I should drop this to save myself the heartbreak.
I laughed so hard seeing how your perspective changed in each comment lol
Anywaysss bestfriend is better but sadly ML is endgame
LMFAOO the change of sides, anyways the childhood bestfriend that cares for him that he starts losing himself over him will always be better than that alpha who only wants to fullfil his desires
For clarity since the translations don’t specify, this scene was a test. The ML read off a book title that is written in the language that was used in Korea hundreds of years ago. Then the ML used that same language to ask the MC about the measurement of their height difference. The MC shouldn’t know these words or how to read them if he were just a regular student and the fact that he does understand the language and also couldn’t say how old a high school student would be completely gave away that he is much older than he’s pretending to be.
Damn .... I didn't notice this at all .
Thank you so much for clarifying.
ML is really smart .
seeing this story get so many negative reviews specifically because of the bdsm aspect when it’s leagues better in art, themes, emotion, and characters than so many other weakly plotted stories people laud on here is frustrating. yes, the bdsm is unhealthy. it’s fiction. it’s an unhealthy fictional relationship. that is the glaring point the original author is trying to make. move on.
OK, so I just finished catching up with the English translations for the novel. Hands-down, this is my favorite Korean novel I’ve ever read. For those asking about the ages, the MC is “about 200 years” old in a body that’s physically 18. The ML is 26 officially, but could be a few years younger (he doesn’t know his exact age). Both the main character and the male lead are characters that were clearly made with love—neither of them are typical for the genre and they both are strong with softness at their core and a tragic backstory wrapped in mystery. Buckle up. This one is going to be good.
sorryy could you give me the link of the novel??
Please give m spoilers.
Who was the man from the past in mc’s flashback?
When and how does ml fall for mc? Who falls first? Is ml a green flag? Is there a 2nd ml?
Is it a happy ending?
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I haven’t finished the whole novel yet. There are 300 something chapters and I’m only on 183 (and I’m translating on my own now since the Eng. translations aren’t as far). So I can only answer with the knowledge I currently have.
The man from the past in his flashbacks is his teacher and mentor. He’s the one who’s cursed the MC with immortality.
The ML falls for the MC while getting close to the MC to convince him to join him in his cause… he doesn’t realize it’s love for awhile, but he falls first and he falls hard. I’d say he’s a green flag in that he treats the MC well despite manipulating him for his purposes early on, but he does have… interesting thoughts sometimes lmfao. He’s a little twisted internally but he’s sweet with the MC. There’s no second ML so far.
I don’t know yet!
Oh! And I should mention that the ML has already confessed to the MC somewhere around chapter 150. He’s very sincere in his feelings and very open and forward about them too lmfao.
omg hi! do you mind letting me how where did you read the raw? Im dying of curiosity
the reason why shinje and yugeon are acting romantic now is because the novel built them up to be romantic this entire time, to the point that from this point onward there is absolutely no way to continue the story without including the fact that yugeon is in love with shinje. however, for whatever reason, the manhwa has adapted the story while cutting a LOT of scenes from the novel that show that steady build up of romance (imo, the artist has a different favorite ML and also really liked drawing the rape scenes… they could have been cut, most of them weren’t that long in the novel but whatever). just know that shinje no longer wants to die because he wants yugeon to live and he wants to live alongside him. yugeon is heavily crushing on shinje. shinje is the only one out of the others that treats him gently (yes, even while being harsh other times—recall yugeon’s first time. shinje took time to prep him for it and everything, the scene dragging out much longer than the novel).
This is really interesting insight actually. Seems like their relationship is a lot more in context timeline wise in the novel.
Idk it's sort of made me reflect on the challenges of adapting things to visual media. In written work there's so much reliance on us being directly told what we need to move the plot along - e.g., "I looked at his face, his eyes seemed kind".
But in visual form, the artist simply shows that emotion in their expression, but how that translates to us as readers, or how we infer it's meaningful depends on their talent.
Since there's just a lot of sex scenes, it's hard to tell whether MC is distressed or not. The artist doesn't really differentiate and make it seem like Shinje is particularly kind or nice.
why is the artist skipping so many scenes suddenly :/
right i wanted to see the other stuff at the hotel too :(
looked at the raws and now i’m let down by the changes made. there’s a character completely wiped from the story and a scene that’s in an entirely different environment from the novel. sigh.
Can I ask what scene it is and what's different I haven't read the novel but I'm curious (I'm fine with spoilers)
Nothing sticks to the novel bro, what a horrible world we live in (gimme spoilers)
SPOILERS but i’ll skip some deets
in the novel yoohan gets lured to what is essentially one of the sex dungeons/drug holes that mr. kim has set up. he’s there to save the actor boy who is giving him intel (because that big bulky henchman of mr. kim and myungshin found out about it somehow i can’t remember), but on his way in he sees a young looking kid being tormented (like in that chapter of the comic where myungshin brought that new actor to mr. kim to torture). when yoohan escapes the place he stops to save the young guy who end up being the son of someone rich in america, i think? i’m forgetting details because it’s been a year since i read the novel.
in the raws for the comic, though, yoohan just enters this clean looking building, sees the spy he planted, fights the henchman, then leaves. the scene just seems completely wiped of the grittiness. it’s lackluster and makes little sense.
That first bit had me stressed I thought you were gonna say he was lured there and raped I'm glad that's not the case thanks for telling me weird that they changed it like that though
Kevin! They got rid of Kevin?! (I think that was his name).
I guess the comic won’t cover the sequel novels, but if I remember correctly, wasn’t Jay jealous of Kevin because after he was rescued by Yoohan, he developed a crush on him?
And also, wasn’t the guy passing on info to him being brutalized again when Yoohan found him and Kevin?
And they escape in a car driven by Kevin who’s like 16, and Yoohan was surprised he could drive cus of his age?
(It’s been years since I read the novels, so my memory is fuzzy.)
they got rid of him maybe his character was taken out because of his age? but i think they should have just aged him up instead. the scenes felt empty without him there. not sure about the crush thing since i didn’t read the sequels (i didn’t even know there were ones omg), but yeah that’s how i remember everything else playing out.
i think my main issue with cutting all this out is that it’s going to seem like jay is way more insane for what he’s about to do in the hospital afterwards when… all yoohan did was go to a location where nothing was really going on in the first place. like there was no sense of danger whatsoever. oh well.
The sequel series was done, the. I feel the last sequel series dropped the ball, but anyway, that’s irrelevant to the comic.
If it was due to his age, they could have just made him slightly older, but I guess if the comic won’t cover things beyond Payback, then the Kevin character is a bit irrelevant.
Either way, even without Kevin, the stakes could still be raised, the other guy was being hurt, Yoohan put himself in danger. The whole thing was scary.
from what i remember of this arist’s last manhwa i can’t wait to see the top fall head over heels for the bottom