why is the artist skipping so many scenes suddenly :/
right i wanted to see the other stuff at the hotel too :(
looked at the raws and now i’m let down by the changes made. there’s a character completely wiped from the story and a scene that’s in an entirely different environment from the novel. sigh.
Can I ask what scene it is and what's different I haven't read the novel but I'm curious (I'm fine with spoilers)
Nothing sticks to the novel bro, what a horrible world we live in (gimme spoilers)
SPOILERS but i’ll skip some deets
in the novel yoohan gets lured to what is essentially one of the sex dungeons/drug holes that mr. kim has set up. he’s there to save the actor boy who is giving him intel (because that big bulky henchman of mr. kim and myungshin found out about it somehow i can’t remember), but on his way in he sees a young looking kid being tormented (like in that chapter of the comic where myungshin brought that new actor to mr. kim to torture). when yoohan escapes the place he stops to save the young guy who end up being the son of someone rich in america, i think? i’m forgetting details because it’s been a year since i read the novel.
in the raws for the comic, though, yoohan just enters this clean looking building, sees the spy he planted, fights the henchman, then leaves. the scene just seems completely wiped of the grittiness. it’s lackluster and makes little sense.
That first bit had me stressed I thought you were gonna say he was lured there and raped I'm glad that's not the case thanks for telling me weird that they changed it like that though
Kevin! They got rid of Kevin?! (I think that was his name).
I guess the comic won’t cover the sequel novels, but if I remember correctly, wasn’t Jay jealous of Kevin because after he was rescued by Yoohan, he developed a crush on him?
And also, wasn’t the guy passing on info to him being brutalized again when Yoohan found him and Kevin?
And they escape in a car driven by Kevin who’s like 16, and Yoohan was surprised he could drive cus of his age?
(It’s been years since I read the novels, so my memory is fuzzy.)
they got rid of him maybe his character was taken out because of his age? but i think they should have just aged him up instead. the scenes felt empty without him there. not sure about the crush thing since i didn’t read the sequels (i didn’t even know there were ones omg), but yeah that’s how i remember everything else playing out.
i think my main issue with cutting all this out is that it’s going to seem like jay is way more insane for what he’s about to do in the hospital afterwards when… all yoohan did was go to a location where nothing was really going on in the first place. like there was no sense of danger whatsoever. oh well.
The sequel series was done, the. I feel the last sequel series dropped the ball, but anyway, that’s irrelevant to the comic.
If it was due to his age, they could have just made him slightly older, but I guess if the comic won’t cover things beyond Payback, then the Kevin character is a bit irrelevant.
Either way, even without Kevin, the stakes could still be raised, the other guy was being hurt, Yoohan put himself in danger. The whole thing was scary.
the dragon who caused mc’s bad luck has the same yellows eyes that the second ml has. :/.
Oh my gosh you are soo smart for noticing that.
Just finished reading the web novel for this. It's actually a very long story that took a day and a half to read and was very well written. Spoilers ahead.
I can't believe how well the author managed to make me like MC and Garon (ML) being together by the end despite how awful Garon had been for most of the story. He doesn't entirely redeem himself necessarily, but you feel his utter devotion to the MC. He would rather die himself than do something that would harm the MC by the middle/end of the novel. He’s crazy about the MC in a way that is almost scary… he would feed the MC his flesh if the MC asked him to—this isn’t me exaggerating, he literally tries to. The MC feels guilt and anguishes about his mother’s death and the circumstances of how he knows Garon, but… I can’t explain it. You just like them together by the end. It’s a helpless kind of love, even after separation they’re the only ones for each other. Garon wants MC to change him and MC really is. He thinks endlessly about the name he wants to give MC. He finds an old painting the MC’s late father painted despite how unpopular the MC‘s father’s paintings actually were and gifts it to the MC without ever making a big deal about it—the painting is just there one day. He wears down the cheap pipe the MC gives him by using it everyday and taking it everywhere. He gives his life up just to be with the MC.
About Raon (second ML)… I’ll say, yes, he does force himself on the MC (never going all the way—though I think he would have if it weren’t for his knowledge of the poison) and actually has a covetous, perverted way of thinking and speaking, but really that’s not the worst thing about him. Personally, the fact that he knew the MC when he was 16 and was attracted to him is the creepiest part. He didn’t kill the MC’s mom, which I know some people thought he did.
Raon does get his time with the MC, so for people who like him you’ll get to see them in sexual situations (but they never go far since the MC can’t get hard with him and Raon knows about the poison) as well as living together for a month or so.
It’s very obvious before MC and Garon separate, though, that Garon is the one who loves MC more. Garon would let his love for the MC destroy him, but Raon wouldn’t. That’s what my main takeaway was from their different dynamics.
MC’s painter friend, Naro, lives by the end, btw. Garon brings him to MC long after MC thought he might be dead. Garon’s three guards all become more important in the special chapters since they look after the MC and make sure he’s okay (as well as one of them having a crush on Naro…).
I can answer any other questions anyone has :)
can i know where did you read the novel? is it translated in English? ┗( T﹏T )┛
Booktooki! Just Google translate the pages. It’s well written enough that it’s understandable when translated (unlike a lot of web novels). Some names are weird and “tongue” is always translated funny, lol.
do you happen to have the link of the raw novel? thank you so much ヾ(☆▽☆)
https://booktoki344.com/novel/6835211?book=%EC%99%84%EA%B2%B0%EC%86%8C%EC%84%A4 Chapter 20 is where the manwha left off if you want to skip the parts we already know,
Amen
Now to wake for the side episodes lmao
Thank you so much! I love spoilers so much!
So they live happily together at the end and ml didn't died from the poison? Did it ever tell if mc like ml at the end, or forgive him?
thank you so much for the link (=・ω・=)
So i was right it was not raon who killed uke"s mother.. cause he is not really a killer vibes but i agree about him being perv of uke hahaha
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Yes and no. Basically, Garon did actually die from MC's poison. The MC was crying on his knees in front of him desperately trying to give Garon the antidote even as Garon tells him not to do anything stupid and holds the MC's arms down so that he can't do it. The poison's antidote is actually one of the MC's horns, which Garon knew but wouldn't let the MC crush up and feed to him because that could permanently harm or even kill the MC. So Garon stops him. But when Garon's heart stops beating and he fades away the MC quickly rips off a horn, crushes it up, and feeds it to Garon with his mouth. But the pain and the trauma of what he's just done makes him pass out before he ever finds out if the antidote worked or not. For a month the MC lives in a tiny village with Raon (who was there with the MC and Garon when Garon died). But there are whispers from the village's people that Garon is alive. MC starts sleepwalking. Raon fights with MC because the MC seems like he's still trying to run away back to Garon. Raon asks if MC wants him to throw him away (let him go) and the MC sobs and begs Raon to throw him away. He gets a name. All alone, he moves into his old home he shared with his mom outside the Imae village. Garon finds out he's there and meets him. Long arc where Garon is making it up to the MC, asks the MC to change him, etc. etc. They do end up living together after that, but they're not blindly happy—they chose each other despite the ways they've hurt each other and they acknowledge that and still make each other happy anyway. The MC does love him, but he doesn't forgive Garon. He's waiting for the day that he's changed Garon enough that Garon will really mean it when he bows down in front of MC's mother's grave and begs for forgiveness from her spirit—which, in one of the later chapters Garon does ask the MC if he wants to go visit his mother's grave, so I do think he was going to but we didn't get to read it in any of the special chapters.
Ohhh, okays. Thanks you
Thank you!!!
Do they stay in the house of the MC or do they go back to the palace?
After garon takes the antidote did he have sex with MC? The poison will not affect him anymore?
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They move back to the palace eventually, but the MC can go wherever he wants. He isn’t trapped there or anything.
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Once the antidote is taken the effect lasts for life. The MC’s poison no longer harms Garon. Of course, the MC didn’t know that at first so it takes them awhile to sleep with each other afterwards.
I honestly think you're just trying to make the second ML look bad because you like the king, I mean in these manhwas what if he likes him when he's 16 as long as he hadn't done anything to him it's fine, the king literally r@ped mc but you still like their relationship "Stockholm syndrome" or whatever it's spilled so it isn't your place to criticism the second ML
Notice how I prefaced the sentence with “personally” because it’s my personal grievance with the character. But I’m also not trying to make Raon look bad, I’m simply stating what his worst actions are in the novel because there are comments saying he’s probably secretly evil and the real killer of the MC’s mom. So, for people who want spoilers, I explained that he’s not secretly MC’s mom’s killer and what his worst actions are so they know the limit of what he does. But also… fiction is meant to be analyzed and engaged with—criticisms are part of engaging with stories and I can actually do whatever I want lol.
Hey wait did Garon give him his name or his brother? I'm reading the novel and a bit confused
Raon gave the MC a name first before letting him go! Garon had a book he was writing names for the MC in and he has one he seems to have picked out for the MC, but he never tells him it before the novel ends (but the MC finds it while snooping).
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I'm so mad Garon never gave him his name though!!!! It's so frustrating how it ended. And it ended it 2022 so it's over over.
UGH. I AGREE! I'm hoping the comic adds its own side stories and we get a scene where Garon gives the MC the name he planned! In the novel the little book Garon was using to write names he thought of was very well-loved, so you know he spent ages thinking about it and wanted to find the perfect one. It was such a sweet gesture, I really need to see it play out in the comic.
It's been over a month since this comment, sorry, but if you see it anytime, I have a question about Garon. Is it ever explained why was he such tyrant. It's quite anticlimactic for someone who's so bloodthirsty and with tendencies of psychopathic behaviour to chage just because of love, but it's every bl's usual trope, so it's okay. I'm just curious if he had a reason or simply was gross human being to begin with.
Regardless of reason and all the love he harbor for MC I'll hate him. As for other potential ML, he was sweet to some extent but I feel like he was kinda unnecessary 2nd lead, he could have just been good friend (of it's just personal preference)
To be honest, I can’t remember anymore. If he did have a backstory as to why he does what he does, then it was so uninspired/generic I can’t even remember it. Or maybe my brain is just too forgetful. Fingers crossed it’s the latter.
Funnily, you and the MC feel the same way about Raon (the second ML). Better as a friend.
Wait so the emperor killed the mom? And thank you for this.
So I don't know if the antidote lasts forever. The Dr and someone else mentioned that something was wrong with the ML a few times and the ML immediately shut it down like he didn't want anyone talking about it. But I think he's dying from the poison again at the end of the story. It's never confirmed though. I honestly don't like how the story ended. Too many open ends and honestly no happy ending for anyone
Thankyou so much!!
But tbh I rlly like raon rn and I was wondering if the author shows any ending abt him? Does he end up with someone else or anything?
Not that Ican remember. We see Raon for the last time after MC leaves him to go back to his village. Nothing else happens with Raon after that, since that happens near the end of the main story and the side stories focus on Garon and MC.
Did the ML really the one who k*lled MC's mother? I just want that to know, cuz I have an inkling that he was framed
IIRC Garon doesn’t recall? He killed a lot of imae that night. But it was probably him and he accepts the blame from MC regardless.
Kinda wish he didn't and it was somebody else, but regardless thank god at least he had a little bit of empathetic for the MC.
Thanks for the reply ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Did garon really killed mc mom?
TYSM FOR UR SPOIL. I FEEL RELIEVED TO HEAR THT. PHEW.
Bless your soul
this is why the artist deciding to change how this scene goes in the actual novel was such a bad idea, because now everyone is confused on why he’s begging for more. in the NOVEL yugyeon was the one who started this and he wasn’t rejecting shinje. it was his first time taking control and having sex on his own. it’s so fucked up the artist’s rape kink ruined this scene for yugyeon’s character and the relationship development between him and shinje.
What the fuck!! Damnn it artist.
So he actually consented in this scene in novel? First time?
SEASON TWO finally this is one of my faves
wish everyone would give this a chance the characterization is so deep and the main character has one of the best realistic depictions of trauma i’ve seen in a manhwa
Fr!! Everyone whining how they cant stand the MC crying all the time for no reason when it is pretty clear there *must* be a reason. Just because it hadn't been portrayed yet what exactly it was or what his trauma aka "his problem" was.
It might be hard to read yes, but maybe it isnt supposed to be easy? And if you can't cope with that (that's ok no judgement but) then maybe just skip it altogether instead of complaining
if i were the writer of this novel and i gave an artist the permission to turn my novel into a manhwa and that artist turned around and cut out all of the important relationship scenes between the main character and the main lead, dragged out the rape scenes for entire chapters while doing it, and made changes so that the other side characters look better than the actual main lead and took away all of the main character’s stubborn and defiant personality i would be so pissed.
what a let down from the novel.
the storyboarder too..... it's like they only read, maybe skimmed, the novel like once and ran with it TTTTT
Where can someone find the novel? Does it have the same name?
same name, you can search it on novelupdates
this artist just has a rape fetish. in the novel YUGEON IS THE ONE WHO KISSES SHINJE HERE! ugh.
the reason why shinje and yugeon are acting romantic now is because the novel built them up to be romantic this entire time, to the point that from this point onward there is absolutely no way to continue the story without including the fact that yugeon is in love with shinje. however, for whatever reason, the manhwa has adapted the story while cutting a LOT of scenes from the novel that show that steady build up of romance (imo, the artist has a different favorite ML and also really liked drawing the rape scenes… they could have been cut, most of them weren’t that long in the novel but whatever). just know that shinje no longer wants to die because he wants yugeon to live and he wants to live alongside him. yugeon is heavily crushing on shinje. shinje is the only one out of the others that treats him gently (yes, even while being harsh other times—recall yugeon’s first time. shinje took time to prep him for it and everything, the scene dragging out much longer than the novel).
This is really interesting insight actually. Seems like their relationship is a lot more in context timeline wise in the novel.
Idk it's sort of made me reflect on the challenges of adapting things to visual media. In written work there's so much reliance on us being directly told what we need to move the plot along - e.g., "I looked at his face, his eyes seemed kind".
But in visual form, the artist simply shows that emotion in their expression, but how that translates to us as readers, or how we infer it's meaningful depends on their talent.
Since there's just a lot of sex scenes, it's hard to tell whether MC is distressed or not. The artist doesn't really differentiate and make it seem like Shinje is particularly kind or nice.