is this worth reading despite the unsatisfying ending? it looks so pretty it's genuinely such a shame they don't finish it properly
this is WILDLY underrated holy fuck. the plot is so insanely well fleshed out and especially for such a short manhwa. it's got such an original storyline and MAN THE CHARACTERS!!! these two are so perfect for each other. it's crazy how well this author wrote their dynamic and the development of their relationship in the midst of such a chaotic and action packed plot. everything worked together so fucking well. like their relationship felt SO NATURAL and so beautiful. watching them fall in love with each other, fight for each other and live for each other really hit so hard
can i read and understand this without reading Red Candy?
Yes.
thanks sm for the answer!
this is genuinely SO fucking good but can someone please explain to me their personality types?? i'm so confused like how is jiwoo f and not t?? 50/50 between i and e? when he's the biggest introvert ever and is exhausted around 99% of people? and then daehan 50/50 between f and t, not just f? wtff am i missing something.
i can't tell if it's bc i'm misunderstanding the characters or i'm misunderstanding the myer-briggs personality type system. or maybe the author misunderstanding the personality types?? idk can someone more knowledgeable in this area please enlighten me
I guess we’ll find out in august when season 2 comes? jinwoo isn’t an introvert though, he’s just focused on studying and exhausted from people using him.
wait but how do u define introvert then? isn't the general consensus that introverts are energised by being alone, and extroverts are energised through social interaction? jinwoo sure as hell does not like social interaction and is exhausted by it.
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honestly I don't know much about mbti either, I just know there's a mass misunderstanding on what mbti is actually about. For example, I and E do not reflect how outgoing a person is. You can be INTP and still be an extrovert with people
The letters in mbti are decided based on cognitive functions(Introverted Sensing (Si), Extraverted Sensing (Se), Introverted Intuition (Ni), Extraverted Intuition (Ne), Introverted Thinking (Ti), Extraverted Thinking (Te), Introverted Feeling (Fi), and Extraverted Feeling (Fe).)
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it often simplifies and misconstrues what mbti actually is. I would say do your own research, /r mbti is a good start (2)
Holy fucking spam I hate this site
if multiple of my comments pop up sorry about that
Aight bet something I actually know :)
Carl Jung developed the Jungian Cognitive Functions (8 Functions) was first created and MBTI was developed to make 16 types that we know of sometime way later by Myers-Briggs. The 8 Functions have a more "scientific" standing, while the MBTI doesn't have as big of a reputation for being as valid.
Regardless. In my "opinion" I believe Jin-woo gives off INTP vibes... But that's more in stereotypes, I would say for Cognitive Functions, Ni (Introverted Intuition) and Te (Extroverted Thinking) so INTJ would fit best. For Dae-han my gut says ESFP or ENFP. I'm going with ESFP due to the higher experience with Physical Sensory Experiences. ESFP would be Se (Extroverted Sensing) and Fi (Introverted Feeling). The above comments mention Introvert vs. Extrovert (SOCIAL wise I assume, since energy/social/cognitive/empathy are all ways someone can be extro/introverted) and it's very complicated. But Jin-woo seems Socially Introverted to me.
Obviously that's just the basics, if you want to learn more, https://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/wall is a great resource.
hi!! yes, from my limited knowledge i completely agree with which personality types you gave the two of them. my confusion came from the fact that the author said "Do Jinwoo is INFJ, but he's almost 50/50 between E and I. Lee Daehan is ESTP, but he's almost 50/50 between F and T." i personally agree with you that jinwoo gives 'T' not 'F,' and that daehan gives 'F' not 'T.' then for jinwoo it genuinely makes no sense to me that the author wrote "50/50 between E and I" when he's like 100% an introvert. he does not have a single extroverted bone in his body imo.
Oh no you're completely fine. I understood your point completely. I agree with you. He is not an extrovert at all HAHAHAHAH. I think the author is maybe just not well-aware or knows a lot about MBTI? I'm not sure myself, but maybe that's the case hehe. I can't say for certain though. â•®(￣▽￣)â•
ohh omg HAHA yay! yeahh maybe, it left me questioning everything lmao.
i'm genuinely astonished at how good this was. i had no clue that i was gonna experience a whole masterpiece when i first clicked 'start reading' MANNN 8.8 does not do this justice. everything about this was so well crafted: characters, plot and art. god i love akemi and oka so much, the progression of their relationship throughout the story was just so phenomenally depicted.
sugura was also just the perfect side character for this story. i love how he distinctively feels like his own character too, as in not JUST serving as a wingman but having his own individual identity.
also the little mermaid reference !!! it hit EXTRA hard because i had just studied an extract of it the other day for my illustration assignment and reinterpreted the scene. the author referenced to the perfect fairy tale for this story. not only bc of the idea that "monsters and humans live in different worlds" but also bc hans christian anderson was most likely a closeted homosexual. he wrote a love letter to a male friend who got engaged around the same time he wrote the fairy tale god this was beautiful.
the problem with the uke is NOT the fact that he's a prostitute, it's the fact he keeps taking advantage of the seme's feelings for him, teasing him abt it, inviting him to sex, and then when the seme shows interest in him as a person he gets all pissed off. the uke also never listens to the seme's pleas to stop. i really believe the seme deserved better as he showed nothing but love, kindness and respect towards him this entire time.
now that i just learnt the author actually drew the teacher x hirose tgt as a ship im actually at a loss for words, i dont think anything could describe how disappointed i am. if she made it clear from the start it was teacher x student, ok wtv, not my cup of tea i probably wouldn't have read.
but it's the way she genuinely misled us into thinking this would be wholesome this entire time (and it was wholesome in vol 1), but now all of us are hit with this groomer bs ?? like yes, wtv it's her story she can do what she wants but she surely should have been aware how so many of us who were fans and really enjoyed it would feel about this. like i swear NONE of us were here to see a teacher-student relationship.
Where did you get that hirose and the teacher are a "ship" (I'm assuming you meant couple)?? I can see the interpretation of hirose having a crush on his teacher, but I don't see how the teacher has acted weird towards hirose except maybe the one ride home he gave him
hi!! i meant the twitter post not in the manga sorry i wasn't clear. that's what i meant by "drew [...] tgt as a ship" https://x.com/iimawa21/status/1848192493244019106
i'm hoping that perhaps it's just non-canon art by the author but it's just not looking that great.
i completely had the same perspective as you too so i understand, it's just that after i saw the ship art i was like "wtf" ykwim? like i genuinely thought people were kind of overreacting from the manga, bc i thought it was just an unrequited love with some questionable acts by the teacher (e.g. the 'if you were a girl' flirting) and then i realised why after i saw the tweet
Okay thay is. Weird. For sure. But I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be non-canon? Like, it's hard to say much of anything when these are presented out of context (not that the context would make 'em less weird, but at least we'd know what led to these...) but I think Syundei knows well enough not to draw something this problematic in her most popular manga. My best bet for this is she started this weird thing between hirose and the teacher in the manga out of plot reasons (giving hirose a male crush just to state he's into dudes) but then uh, got sidetracked on her free time. Yikes. But I'm still pretty hopeful about this not becoming canon.
(If it does, I'll probably just try to forget this manga ever existed )
And honestly I see a lot of people point that scene ("if you were a girl") as flirting but I just saw it as more a joke?? Since what hirose said was a pretty tropey, shoujo protagonist line.
My biggest gripe with him is the ride he gave hirose + exchanging numbers like they're just good ol' pals...?? Bc there's certainly a line there somewhere that otogiri is ignoring, which, yk, doesn't say the nicest of things about him...
yeah i have the exact same view on this. i'm honestly just not sure what to expect now. i don't have a problem with hirose having an unrequited love, i think it's a fine plot point, but if she actually ends up making them get together i will be so upset.
oh yeah i agree with you for sure sorry, it's just that part was on my mind the most because i just can't imagine a teacher making that kind of joke to a student. but definitely, the car and number thing was definitely the most suspicious. at my high school i remember it was literally prohibited for teachers to give the students their phone number so i found that weird too
Wait so this isn’t Nakamuda x Hirose end game but the teacher and (I’m assuming Hirose) Student endgame???? NOOOOOO I get the one sided crush but making them endgame is ridiculous the story been weird with the teacher but I tried to ignore it but if end game is teacher x student im not into it ahhhhhh ahhhhhh ahhhh nooooo
Or are you js talking about the teacher student interaction between Hirose and the teacher? And that they’re not endgame but js the interactions???
I agree with that then, the interactions are weird esp the way they look at each other or well mostly Hirose’s one sided crush it seems. I’m dying choking.
We're mostly gambling, here. We don't know 100% for sure what the exact endgame here is, since I'm pretty sure the author has never spoken out about it, but it IS true that they have drawn art of Hirose x the teacher. That is the most we can day on any front. As I said before tho, the author is probably smart enough not to make that endgame when this series has gained so much traction, so it's... 99% safe to assume it won't be a teacher x student endgame.
But seeing the art they've made makes it weird to read the interactions between them in the manga, tbh, but thess interactions by themselves aren't very "incriminating;" they're probably overly friendly just to give a background for Hirose to get a crush on the teacher-- which, by itself, would not mean the pairing is canon
Thank you for the info and omg yes even tho it’s probably for background like u said, why is their interactions sooo close as student and teacher it’s to the point im reading and i get uncomfortable like teacher aren’t u uncomfortable? But then again maybe the teacher understands and isn’t looking at it as more than a kid love and knows that it’ll change or whatever
THIS CANNOT BE REAL WHY DID IT END THERE I LOVE THIS MANHUA SO MUCH PLSS GIVE US MORE. nothing was even resolved (regarding anti-aging) and most importantly the devil lord and princess never got tgt?? i genuinely was so shocked when i read 'end' i was seriously expecting at least 20 chapters and everyone getting married when they figured everything out.