hunterx2 November 16, 2020 3:15 pm

Watching her flashback, the whole time I was wondering why she said NOTHING to her friend? Why she suspected nothing? In the end, the answer is just that she isn't smart but she still wasn't faultless. That just makes me like the story less.

Like, it would be different if this was about her friendship breaking down after a simple misunderstanding. That's sad. But this really wasn't that. Sure, she wasn't going out of her way to hide seeing her friends boyfriend but she never disclosed it. And her reasoning was, "I'm sure he'll tell her." He didn't and she had no reason to think he would. He sure didn't say he would. And then, when he outright CONFESSED to her, did she go to her friend? NO. Her friend had to come find her after she found video evidence.

She's a likable character but her friends trust in her was reasonably destroyed. I mean, show of hands, who here meets up with their friends boyfriend without telling their friend? Who here wouldn't tell their friend that their boyfriend made a pass at them?

    Samy November 16, 2020 3:20 pm

    sure it was reasonable but what wasn't reasonable was destroying her life, bullying her, throwing juice and in general making others treat her like a monster then feeling great about it. This doesn't make her "friend" any better.

    Sai phantomhive November 16, 2020 4:15 pm

    Yeah she's dumb for not doubting her friend's boyfriend. Maybe she saw him as a friend too and completely trust him that he completely loves his girlfriend. That's why she always ask how's her friend since there are those "friends" that we dont always contact.

    Some only wants to brag about what they have and that others dont. But I might be wrong and the friend is not like that. And she's too hurt to listen to the MC and her Ex. We do stupid things when hurt.

    Sometime people gets to afraid to act in confrontal situations (fight/run/FREEZE) especially when confronted at public. Like if people have a job and the hr talks to them it wont be at the public where their reputation and work life it at stake, the talk will be done at private with out prying eyes also this way the hr is able to hear the other party's explanation. Talking that way in public only leads to a party getting shamed. So what happened is intentional. She just wants to talk down to the MC for being like by his ex. Nothing else matter. Not even their friendship

    Samy November 16, 2020 4:35 pm
    Yeah she's dumb for not doubting her friend's boyfriend. Maybe she saw him as a friend too and completely trust him that he completely loves his girlfriend. That's why she always ask how's her friend since ther... Sai phantomhive

    exactly. That kinda showed her true colors as a "friend".

    hunterx2 November 16, 2020 5:39 pm
    sure it was reasonable but what wasn't reasonable was destroying her life, bullying her, throwing juice and in general making others treat her like a monster then feeling great about it. This doesn't make her "... Samy

    She is not in the clear just because her friend was mean to her after the fact. Her friend is also not responsible for how others treat her. Was her friend mean? Absolutely. But nobody handled the situation well and that includes the MC.

    Axcelle November 16, 2020 5:45 pm

    But for some reason I can see the possibility of MC having hesitation on approaching the girl. After the guy confess, seeing how bitter the friend is, there will still be a violent reaction against MC.
    No matter what lapses MC committed, her experience is too traumatic.
    Being ganged up, humiliated and isolated by unrelated people. Its too much.
    I feel pity for her.
    MC, the friend and BF’s situation is understandable. That’s life.
    What’s not right are those bullying her when its none of their biz.

    Sai phantomhive November 16, 2020 5:59 pm

    I mean let's be real. Consider her character. Would you be able to tell your not so close friend.

    "Hey girl, i got something to say, your boyfriend" the guy who told you he loves you "told me he likes me too" I know you love him so dont worry I dont love him, he did told you we met to get the weights right you told him I needed it, also we met a few times coincidentally, but you already know that"

    Right away? Not overthinking that you could be pranked? Don't they have the perfect relationship? Maybe they just had a fight, they'll fix that in no time. Why/how did he fell for me? I thought we were friends? What did I do? Would she believe me? How she gonna feel? How am I gonna tell her? Would it end the friendship? Do I want the friendship to end? Is this real? How can I tell her without hurting her? (Of course it will but as a friend, you wouldn't want it to hurt her)

    Of course you should tell her right away but for others they can only do it with the right timing. The question above doesn't matter but its hard to do and you will waver especially when you don't want the friendship to end. But you should still do it even if it does end.

    PS: Sorry I have a soft spot about this. The same misunderstanding happen to my friend. Although news didn't spread online, we almost lost her due to it. I found out late

    hunterx2 November 16, 2020 6:06 pm
    Yeah she's dumb for not doubting her friend's boyfriend. Maybe she saw him as a friend too and completely trust him that he completely loves his girlfriend. That's why she always ask how's her friend since ther... Sai phantomhive

    If it's HER friend then SHE can ask her directly. But she never did. She assumed and it blew up in her face.

    It doesn't matter if she's afraid of confrontation. The ball was in her court. She was confessed to. Sure, I could understand if she needed an hour or two to calm down and think about what to tell her friend but she waited a whole day. She had her chance to go to her and talk it out in private and she didn't.

    Her friend isn't HR. HR does the things that they do so that the company can work the best it can without taking any big risks nor breaking any laws. When HR talks to you in private, it's for their sake not the employees. Her friend didn't go to her with the idea of making up. She didn't go with a plan to smooth things over. She went to confront her and shame her. And I don't blame her. If you do something wrong and you are confronted in public then that's on you. And even then, MC had the chance to speak up but didn't because she realized how stupid her actions were.

    But none of this matters because ultimately, what MC did was culturally wrong. In Korea, you do not hang out with your friends boyfriend and not say anything to them about it. You don't do it. It doesn't matter if she saw him as a friend. It's an over stepping of boundaries AND she only know him through her friend(his girlfriend).

    hunterx2 November 16, 2020 6:19 pm
    I mean let's be real. Consider her character. Would you be able to tell your not so close friend."Hey girl, i got something to say, your boyfriend" the guy who told you he loves you "told me he likes me too" I ... Sai phantomhive

    I can say with certainty that I would absolutely tell my friend asap. I would also absolutely cut off my friend if I were on the other end. A real friend wouldn't do me like that. I wouldn't do a real friend like that.

    Saying, "Oh but they might worry about the friendship" doesn't make sense. Because what's the other option? You don't tell them and when they find out, they think you're a pretty sh*t friend. I can only forgive actions like that in middle schoolers. The MC is an adult. Adults do not get the luxury of using anxiousness or nervousness as an excuse unless they have a medical condition and she doesn't.

    Axcelle November 16, 2020 7:05 pm
    I can say with certainty that I would absolutely tell my friend asap. I would also absolutely cut off my friend if I were on the other end. A real friend wouldn't do me like that. I wouldn't do a real friend li... hunterx2

    I don’t disagree with that certainty you had. But isn’t it over critical for us to expect everyone to handle the situation correctly.
    I mean, in MC’s case, she really messed that part big time.
    But given how careless she acted from the start. We can really see how childlike her thoughts are. Added her being dense about men’s advances, its very likely that she has over spent her mind to nonsense thoughts rather than face and confront her friend.

    Sai phantomhive November 16, 2020 7:23 pm
    I can say with certainty that I would absolutely tell my friend asap. I would also absolutely cut off my friend if I were on the other end. A real friend wouldn't do me like that. I wouldn't do a real friend li... hunterx2

    Adults have feelings to. They have the right to feel anxious and be nervous but that doesn't mean that they are excuse on not doing what they are supposed to do. They have the right to prepare themselves and a day is not to much to ask to be compost after a shocking revelation.

    hunterx2 November 16, 2020 9:31 pm
    I don’t disagree with that certainty you had. But isn’t it over critical for us to expect everyone to handle the situation correctly. I mean, in MC’s case, she really messed that part big time.But given h... Axcelle

    No. I think it's very reasonable. That should be the expectation. Of course, everyone fails to meet expectations from time to time. But they don't get to escape criticism for it just because it happens.

    I'm in no way suggesting MC is malicious. She clearly didn't mean for things to happen how they happened. They did though. When she was confronted, it clearly clicked for her that her reasoning was off. And what followed was a predictable sequence of events. But what's done is done.

    hunterx2 November 16, 2020 9:39 pm
    Adults have feelings to. They have the right to feel anxious and be nervous but that doesn't mean that they are excuse on not doing what they are supposed to do. They have the right to prepare themselves and a ... Sai phantomhive

    You have the right to think what you want for however long you want. But time does not stop for you. Just because you want a day does not mean that you get a day.

    Adults have feelings and guess what? Her friend acted out on her feelings of anger and betrayal but you seem to hold her friend to a different standard. MC let her feelings stop her from doing the right thing so why wouldn't that apply to her friend? Actions have consequences. She kept quit and that's on her.

    Samy November 16, 2020 10:57 pm
    She is not in the clear just because her friend was mean to her after the fact. Her friend is also not responsible for how others treat her. Was her friend mean? Absolutely. But nobody handled the situation wel... hunterx2

    sure i never said that. I just consider her friends response to that unacceptable and extreme.

hunterx2 November 13, 2020 11:14 am

Like, you have been played and had the tables turned on you how many times? At what point do you just accept the loss and say, "Maybe I should leave this girl alone?"

hunterx2 November 9, 2020 7:56 am

Like, some of these can get so frustrating because like, only two characters will be good. The others all end up scheming and being evil. Or they are greedy. Or they are easily tricked. Then you have to sit through trial after of nonsense to see a really lovable MC get ahead.

It's nice to cheer for someone who isn't being sabotaged or misunderstood at every step.

hunterx2 November 4, 2020 8:44 pm

And I'm over here mad at his sister. She the one who ruined things. Hopping into a fight to pull out her big brother. Like, girl. That's just stupid. What was her plan?

hunterx2 October 27, 2020 4:17 pm

It's not even about the rape. It's about Souji having never felt comfortable in his home. It's about him never feeling like he really had family. No friends either and no life goals besides paying his parents back, which won't happen. He doesn't even have any personal space. His life is pitiful and his brother raping him on top of everything else just makes me feel like he's a sad character with no control over his life. For his brother to know and still do that just makes him worse trash than he already was.

hunterx2 October 26, 2020 3:38 pm

She called them out. She said, "Oh, so now you want to be close? Now that I look different, you want to be my mom? Now that YOU aren't scared, we can move on? Kick rocks."

hunterx2 October 23, 2020 6:00 pm

It makes it a little difficult to read.

hunterx2 October 21, 2020 1:13 am

I'm 5 chapters in and she frankly seems like a lot. She comes across a little lazy and manipulative.

    Dudehi October 21, 2020 6:44 am

    Totally Wrong, read it, you won't regret it, that girl made me discover a new laugh HSDJJSD

hunterx2 October 19, 2020 9:28 pm

He doesn't say hyung. He says "dongsaeng". It means little brother and that is his little brother who lives with him.

hunterx2 October 18, 2020 10:40 am

Burning the palace immediately only ended up making things worse for her.

    NeetyNayd v 2.0 October 18, 2020 2:56 pm

    I kinda miss all that happened to this manhwa lately... But if you were in her position... What will you do??

    hunterx2 October 19, 2020 4:16 pm
    I kinda miss all that happened to this manhwa lately... But if you were in her position... What will you do?? NeetyNayd v 2.0

    I would have waited at least a few days? I mean, she's been planning things in secret behind the Queens back for years. She couldn't wait a day or two to think of a good plan? Fake his mom's death. Pretend to go along with the plan and then have her "runaway". Stage a kidnapping. Something.

    This is supposed to be a smart, clever MC. But she couldn't even wait a whole day to try and think of something?

    NeetyNayd v 2.0 October 19, 2020 5:50 pm
    I would have waited at least a few days? I mean, she's been planning things in secret behind the Queens back for years. She couldn't wait a day or two to think of a good plan? Fake his mom's death. Pretend to g... hunterx2

    That is pretty reasonable honestly, thinking a little bit more could help her... She could have played along with the empress to lessen suspicion.

    This is my assumption and not a defense...

    Maybe, just maybe... The author wanted to emphasize that Canaria is a human... She might be a bit clever on some things but she is vulnerable also to make bad decision and make herself suffer for that bad decision she has made.
    Cause her not predicting the future becane now her huge obstacle for her to survive

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