Sorry but both sides are valid in this argument. It’s clear a lot of yall aren’t parents and don’t plan to be any time soon. As a parent, you shouldn’t dictate who your child can stay close with as family (unless that other person is a danger to them). Projecting your bad relationship with your mom/dad to make your child not like them right off the bat, isn’t a good thing. That’s telling them who they should hate, etc. without the child learning for themself and also denying them another person who potentially could care for them.
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An EASIER way to say this is: it’s exactly like how divorced parents act. One parent tells their kid that the other parent is bad- which denies them a relationship with the other parent. Sure their romantic relationship could have turned out terrible, and the other party may be a bad partner but that doesn’t automatically mean they’re bad in other relationships. (Ex: bad husband, but good father). The child should be free to stay in touch if they want.
Hyesung is free to hate and never forgive his mother. That’s his own choice and no one should tell him to forgive her if he doesn’t want to. But he shouldn’t ban byul from seeing her just cause of his own feelings. He should be able to tell byul the reason and that he was hurt by his mother. But at the end of the day, byul should be the one decide if he keeps in contact with the grandma. It is his life and his relationships to choose. Dojin at least understood that part by allowing Byul to choose to see the grandma. It’s clear this story tells you about how even when one person has done something bad, they can change eventually. Hyesung forgave and got together with Dojin. He should be able to understand Byul’s pov since he went through a similar experience.
let’s forgive the woman who left her son w an abusive father to marry some other guy and came back to make him sign the divorce papers but not bring him with her totally.
didn’t look for him once when he was constantly switching between homes and jobs. + dojin didn’t let byul, in the last chapter it says that dojin didn’t know byul was in contact with her at all if you missed it.
I guess I did miss that part about Dojin. Anyways never did I say forgive the mother. I think you didn’t read anything I said at all. Point is, Hyesung has the right to never forgive or meet with her. And byul has the right to meet with her and have a connection with her. No parent should be able to project their own bad relationship with that person onto their child and convince them to act the same way.
It is exactly how divorced parents act. Selfishly putting this kid between them and trying to decide for the kid who the kid should meet.
Like let’s bffr, if yall can continue to read Hyesungs romance with Dojin who forced him to be with him and have the baby, what’s the difference. You can forgive noncon but when it comes to a side character, you’re unforgiving. It’s hypocritical. Anyone can hate the grandma as much as they want but at the end of the day, byul has the right to make his own decision.
this isnt a parent which automatically makes the connection very different. additionally I did read your comment that’s why I replied, you said you shouldn’t dictate your child’s relationship unless they’re a danger. and by all means a bad mother who willingly let her own child be in a abusive situation sounds like not an ideal person to have your own son be with. neglect is far beyond the bounds of just a “personal relationship”
I mean active physical danger to this very day. I get the grandma did something bad and left Hyesung to be in danger, but that case hasn’t repeated for byul. The grandma isn’t the guardian of byul, so there won’t be a situation where she’s given that power to do so.
Like I said, Hyesung has every right to never forgive or see his own mother. While byul also has the right to choose whether he wants to see his own grandma. This is byul’s story now. And he chooses his own relationships. Also the comparison between divorced parents relationship is the same, it’s not that different. If you think about it more, it’s very similar to what is being done here.
yikes. what a parent
Just, nope. No adult should be talking to a minor behind their parents' back period. Children are vulnerable and that is why even if parents' should not dictate, they get to pick and choose who the child is in contact with.
If a child goes out of his way by lying to his parents to come see you, it is your responsibility as an adult to let them know where their child is and that their child is safe. She never in years thought she should tell Dojin about Byul's visits or even confirm that Dojin and Huesung are okay with what is happening. What if someone got to or something happened to Byul while he is on the way to her place alone after lying to his parents? Lets not forget Dojin is a celeb and his family owns a conglomerate. Byul's parents will have no way of knowing where he went and where they should look, it takes away the precious time in case of a kidnapping.
Yes, Hyesung and Dojin should not dictate who Byul sees or talks to but they never had a choice bc his grandma robbed them of it. She only told Byul she left Hyesung so he does not like her, she never said she left him with an abusive SOB to escape an abusive marriage. That she did not tell her new alpha about Hyesung bc she was worried he'll leave her. She blamed Hyesung for never looking for her but he was a f'ing child. She was an adult and chose to believe her abusive ex's words bc that was convinient for her new relationship not bc she truly believed Hyesung didn't want to see her. And even if it was that Hyesung didn't want to see her, she was still the mom and made sure that Hyesung would be protected but she did not. She went back but just to get a divorce bc it was all convinient for her and her new relationship. She is a selfish woman who left her child for her happiness and you can't convince me otherwise.
I’m confused by this argument because my point was never about defending or forgiving the grandma. Obviously she was a terrible mother. I truly don’t care enough about her to defend anything she did. Any parts where it looks like I’m “defending” her is just me explaining reasons for why byul should still be given the right to see her. Because if I remember correctly, all he does is chat with her every now and then, and not actually be in the grandma’s care for long.
My actual point is between byul and Hyesung. And mainly defending byul’s right to choose what he wants to do while also respecting that Hyesung can also choose to never forgive her and never see her.
Yes, but Hyesung never got the chance to tell his story to Byul. Byul got told a half-baked story where his grandma was abandoned bc she did not tell her new family that she had a son. And Hyesung wanted nothing to do with her bc she abandoned him. She never told him what conditions he grew up in. She was n't a good parent to Hyesung but her negligence to Byul's safety alone is telling why she should not be trusted with a child.
Fr! That person is already an adult and clearly knows that her son wants nothing to do with her, yet she never even bothered to ask the parents if they were aware of Byul visiting her. She’s trying to downplay her sins by telling Byul about "her side" of the story. OP has repeatedly implied that it’s not okay for H to say Byul's not allowed to meet his grandma, accusing him of projecting his hatred onto his child, without considering that H is still deeply hurt by his mother’s actions while she enjoys spending time with her grandson, the son of the child she abandoned.
Also mind you. Who would even trust someone who left you with an abusive person. If that lady can do that to her OWN child, we won't know what she's still capable of doing
"No adult should be talking to a minor behind their parents' back "
This right here is what really pisses me off. She even kept it a secret from Dojin who she was still in contact with. Children are very impressionable she should not have been talking to Byul AT ALL.
Yikes..I don't want to become your parent. Parents are guardian, they're here to guide their child to avoid them being misguided by some random stranger or even sleazy relatives, byul is in teen. He needs to be guided. And mind you the Hyesung also a human. Byul can talk to his hag grandma but don't expect Hyesung will never got hurt lol... Is he a saint Mary the all forgiving, full of kindness, or masochist...noppe
FLASH NEWS... He can feel betrayed too...you didn't think of that don't you...are you a Mary sue or a Karen in real Life?
I don’t understand your grammar at all. Stop with the insults if you want to continue talking
Anyways you used “Mary sue” and “Karen” wrong lmao. Don’t use words you don’t understand properly.
Lol are you a grammar police? Well are you not a Mary Sue type of person? You're advice sounds like one? Oh not Mary Sue but rather Green Tea...yeah my bad. I know Karen too. They're nosy person who also excels in gaslighting other person too to make them the morally righteous one. Like you keeps misinterpreting the whole story to put the blame on the real victim which is Hyesung and no one else
Let me quote what you just said
####"As a parent, you shouldn’t dictate who your child can stay close with as family (unless that other person is a danger to them). "
My my, a mother who abandoned you then apologize half-heartedly and also blame you for not finding her...is that not a dangerous, morally corrupt person...toxic too.
####"Projecting your bad relationship with your mom/dad to make your child not like them right off the bat, isn’t a good thing"
Are you sure you're not a Mary Sue? When did Hyesung keeps hyping his bad relationship to her mother? Are we reading the same story? He didn't even want to hear anything about her Mother cause it traumatized him and here you are some Saintly douche accusing him of demonizing his own dirtbag mother to his child. Yeah, right.
#####"That’s telling them who they should hate, etc. without the child learning for themself and also denying them another person who potentially could care for them"
Oh children are allowed to learn love and hate. There's school, community club and so on and so for but you Mother Saint wants to criticized Hyesung for getting angry to his child who get close behind his back to the one who causes him so much misery. Aren't you a Mary Sue. The selfless type of Mary Sue,heh.
####'Hyesung is free to hate and never forgive his mother. That’s his own choice and no one should tell him to forgive her if he doesn’t want to."
Yeah you're right. It's Hyesung choice.
####$"But he shouldn’t ban byul from seeing her just cause of his own feelings. He should be able to tell byul the reason and that he was hurt by his mother."
Are we reading the same story? Byul and Dojin doing that thing behind Hyesung back without him knowing is a HUGGGGE RED FLAG. AND WHAT DO YOU WANT TO EXPECT FROM HYESUNG. BE HAPPY, UNDERSTANDING AND SELFLESS HUMAN? REALLY?
####"But at the end of the day, byul should be the one decide if he keeps in contact with the grandma. It is his life and his relationships to choose. "
Oh yeah it's also Byul decision but in that decision lies in hurting his own Father who spoiled and loved him than his dirtbag grandma who don't have any good influence on him...
####"Dojin at least understood that part by allowing Byul to choose to see the grandma."
DOJIN! DOJIN! REALLY? WOW! YOURE UNBELIEVABLE? THAT TRAITOR DOJIN WHO VERY WELL KNEW THAT TRAUMA HYESUNG HAD BECAUSE OF HIS MOTHER. YIKES, BYUL CAN DO THAT. ANYBODY CAN DO THAT BUT NOT DOJIN BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE WHO WITNESS ALL THOSE PAIN AND HELPLESSNESS HYESUNG SUFFERED.
####"It’s clear this story tells you about how even when one person has done something bad, they can change eventually"
WHERE IS THE CHANGES? WHERE'S THE MOTHERFUCKING REDEMPTION. THE READERS CAN'T FIND IT? TELL ME WHERE IT IS? I WANT THE GRANDMA'S REDEMPTION NOT SOME HALF BAKED APOLOGY!
####"Hyesung forgave and got together with Dojin. He should be able to understand Byul’s pov since he went through a similar experience."
AND THE END ALL YOU'RE ARGUMENT LEADS TO ONE CONCLUSION, EVERYTHING IS JUST A FARCE. THAT HYESUNG SHOULD FORGIVE CAUSE WOAH HE MANAGE TO FORGIVE ONE RAPIST BECAUSE THEY GOT BONDED THEN HE CAN ALSO FORGIVE HER DIRTBAG OF A MOTHER OR BECOME UNDERSTANDING OF HIS SON AND HUSBAND WHO BETRAYED HIM LOL YOU'RE SO FUNNY. AND YOUR TELLING ME I DON'T KNOW THE USE OF WORD MARY SUE
Here’s an important point that you seem to not have read at all: I literally said Hyesung has every right to not forgive and not ever meet his own mother. So just by the fact that you thought I said “Hyesung should forgive,” tells me you don’t read properly.
And like I said, you still don’t use those words properly. That’s not what a Mary sue is, not what a Karen is, and not what “green tea” is. I bet you just heard those words and thought “wow! I can use this on anyone as insults! Yay!” Grow up and learn to speak like a mature human being instead of insulting me over a damn fictional story. You’re so mad you’re ranting and speaking in all caps. Sorry I don’t worship the ground Hyesung walks on like you do, and I actually consider the main character’s (byul) feelings as well.
Oh yeah and to properly educate you on these words you like to use but don’t understand,
Mary Sue: a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses.
Automatically wrong use of the word, because I’m a real human being and not a fictional character. You also don’t know me at all and are making assumptions about me over a fictional story. I also never claimed anything about myself being perfect and what I commented was actually the opposite of a Mary sue, which includes flaws and hyesung’s weakness along with the grandma’s.
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Karen: a slang term often used to describe a middle-aged woman who is perceived as obnoxious, angry, and entitled, particularly in situations involving public interactions.
You didn’t use this word right too.
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Green tea: Chinese girls (and others) who pretend to be sweet and innocent but are dishonest.
You also didn’t use this word right. Stop using slang you don’t understand. It’s embarrassing you’re using these words as insults when you’re really just showing how ignorant and unintelligent you are.
hiding it behind your mother already becomes the problem you know that right? and why is that they hid it?? oh because they know hyesung's ill feeling towards her mother who abandoned him that byul and d*jin is aware of.
aside from the fact that byul don't know the whole story (like left hyesung with an abusive father). even if hyesung might be in the wrong for preventing byul and his mother to interact,, ain't hye's initial reaction and mechanism be based to what he himself experienced from his mom?? the pain and betrayal that makes him protective now that he is a mom himself now? so what if she changed? it wouldn't just erased the fact that the grandma just get to be happy with the child of the son she abandoned –who was forced to survive on his own.
hyesung sees it as form of betrayal in its very moment (low-key and technically)
no expectation for hye to instantly embrace byul with grandma, even if he slowly do, its still not odd for the situation be bittersweet.
Coming in again. It's just so funny to me how they kept on focusing on the most irrelevant thing in this argument just to make a comeback. I mean, ignoring all your message and diverting their answers? Ahaha funny.
Love the fact that that’s also what you focused on too. I guess you like disrespecting people over fictional stories just like the person you’re replying to. I simply won’t care to have a conversation with someone who won’t stop at the insults. They need to learn how to speak to people if they want to have a debate first and foremost. I also DID answer them since they clearly missed my main point and had no actual relevance to what I was saying. You and the other person really are odd for getting this riled up over a fictional story and think it’s okay to be rude. Y’all are the exact reason BL readers have such a bad rep.
And this is for you too since you clearly like running to one side but also not reading anything properly. This is the quote I clearly said to them:
“Here’s an important point that you seem to not have read at all: I literally said Hyesung has every right to not forgive and not ever meet his own mother. So just by the fact that you thought I said “Hyesung should forgive,” tells me you don’t read properly.”
Yall can’t see anything but Hyesung in your eyes. You jump to defend him but your brain can’t handle anything else other than praise or defense. You can’t even calm down and think about other ppl’s opinion or perspective without being triggered by it.
Anyways since a lot of you in here seem to not understand my comment at all and can only think to come to hyesung’s defense without reading properly or thinking. I will restate my main point for everyone to hopefully understand. Anyone else who keeps arguing after this clearly just wants me to worship the ground Hyesung walks on and turn my brain off:
MY POINT IS Hyesung has EVERY RIGHT to NOT FORGIVE and CHOOSE NEVER TO SEE HIS OWN MOM. He has THE RIGHT TO BE HURT. I never disagreed with that, and notice how I never mentioned ‘he shouldn’t be hurt’ by what byul did. HE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE UPSET. IM ALSO NOT DEFENDING THE GRANDMA. IDGAF ABOUT THE GRANDMA. What I care about is considering BYUL’S POV too. The main conclusion was that I think HYESUNG SHOULD CHOOSE NEVER TO FORGIVE, while BYUL GETS TO CHOOSE IF HE WANTS TO CONTINUE MEETING HER AFTER THE KNOWING THE FULL TRUTH. I never said Hyesung should be happy or forgive his mom. I simply said Hyesung should allow the child to know and choose what he wants to do when it comes to letting someone in his life.
Anything else that seemed like I was defending the grandma like mentioning how Dojin is a similar case where he hurt Hyesung and was forgiven, was to bring up hypocrisy on the READERS part. Like how Dojin is a rapist and forced him to give birth, but readers forgave him (or turned a blind eye) and continued reading the entire series.
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Anyways it’s shocking that only like 2 people max in this comments section was respectful enough to simply talk about the actual fictional story. Reunion_is_peak and jaedan are actual decent human beings who can talk about a story without insults or being rude. Everyone else here has to chill the fuck out and get that stick out of their ass.
Is the "insult"in the room with us? You want to know what real insult and being rude are? I pity your child so damn much, clearly you're a young parent that is yet to develop maturely. You did answer them with the most irrelevant answers, like Hye's mother. What? Birds of a feather, flock together? You addressed one point and ignored ALL the others claimining that you're educating them how you use those terms properly. Is that even our main point?
"Getting riled up", ohh I could say the same thing... really really. I just laughed, what did you mean by that ohh, is this what you called "Projecting your hate to others"?
"Y'all are the reason why BL readers have such a bad rep." Why? Because we don't victim blame and also because we understand where Hye is coming from? Bad people I tell you.
Fyi, you came onto me first by saying I was disrespectful and rude towards you when you're the one who's doing it, that's what's disrespectful. "I don't understand your grammar yada yada" is that proper to say? Really really funny.
What you said makes sense, nonsense.
"Can't see anything other than Hye"? Wow, really. Guys! I think this person is Byul's grandma hiding behind a fake account! Piece of time already made a clear point why Byul and Dojin already made a big mistake. Byul went out of his way to communicate with someone his mother loathe behind his back. Dojin... no one even like him now, what do you mean by "Can't se anything bla bla bla". My vocabulary is slowly slithering away. I'm lost for words. You have a knack for making people speechless, I'll give you that.
Just read Piece of time's long reply, but try to comprehend it this time.
Ehehe insults
Read the last reply (the one directly above). Hopefully it gets through to you for once.
Anyways it seems you have a history of not reading everything too. If you were you’d know they called me insults before I even mentioned their grammar lmfao. Their very first comment insult me and called me names. You and the other person also are not getting my main point and you both are complaining to me that I’m not talking about yours? I was simply talking about the story first but when yall start to get personal and assume shit about me, that’s when I start giving that same energy back. Y’all are rude ass human beings who can’t have a debate peacefully without insulting the other person. It’s genuinely disgusting how rude you guys are over a fictional story. I also didn’t come onto you first because you were throwing shade at me, replying to others under my comment without even having the balls to directly talk to me.
Yeah. Their argument is so funny. It was peak level gaslighting. Focusing on irrelevant thing thing to make a point just to prove their argument valid just makes them exhausting.
Because I find it funny? Ehehehehe funny. Not getting your main point? Well that's true, that's why we have our whole debate here right? Because they argued back why Byul is also why Hye is not in wrong for Hye not wanting his child to interact with clearly a monster of a person who can fathom to leave her own child with an abuser she got first hand experienced from and blaming a child for not finding her instead of just apologizing properly. Now tell me. How could a parent want their child to communicate with someone that left you to die? That's why we have our parents to begin with, they teach and guide us as we grow old. We can only say that your point is indeed correct when Hye's reasons are baseless and nonsense.
That's why POT is so adamant to argue back because you are blaming or asking Hye or parents not to project their hatred to their child and let the child judge for themselves. That's just bad parenting, not unless, like what I've said, their reasons are NONSENSE.
Wait, I'll surrender myself before the grammar police comes at me. I did not notice my first paragraph going all over the place.
In addition pla, it's not proper to break your mom's heart for a person you've just practically met.
Honey, I don’t know how many times I have to tell you this, but I never disregarded hyesung’s feelings. I said his feelings were valid from the very start. Hyesung has the right to be mad, upset, hurt, and never speak with his mom.
Parents guide their children but they shouldn’t also dictate and have actual power to control their child’s decision. I simply said byul has the right to make his own choice. That’s it. I don’t understand why you seem to be so stubborn thinking I want Hyesung to forgive and forget or something. That was never my point. My point is, a child is a being who grows up and makes their own decision at the end of the day. Every human being on this earth should have that right. I only ever wanted Hyesung to give his child that right, while also fully informing him.
Let me just add that I never said byul was right for what he did. Obviously he shouldn’t have snuck behind their backs or talked to Hyesung like that. But you have to consider that byul was ALSO hurt like Hyesung in that moment and ALSO regretted what he said. A teenager acting out like this is a very common occurrence in most teenagers at some point in their life. Byul found out some info about his birth, was hurt, and wanted to try understanding it by talking to the grandma who did something even slightly similar. He wanted to know the details that Hyesung also wouldn’t talk about.
He should have been taught and informed by his own parents of the situation in the first place to even prevent this from happening. It was a given that this would happen eventually when they kept him in the dark about it.
I'm aware you never disregarded his feelings, and I never mentioned anything about forgiveness, right? But you also said that Byul gets to decide for himself—what are parents even for? Displays? That grandma is not right in the head. It's completely understandable why Hye doesn't want his family to have anything to do with her. I also mentioned that, yes, a child should make decisions on their own when their parents are unreasonable, but in this story's case, Hye has every reason to do so. And that's why none of your repliers agree with you. You really won't survive in an Asian household.
Parents are there to GUIDE and teach, not there to dictate and make decisions for their children. There’s a big difference. Hyesung should be able to tell byul everything about the details of what happened and tell byul how he feels about the grandma and about how he feels about byul seeing her. But that final decision still is byul’s and byul’s alone. No one can control another human being because that person will do what they want regardless. Also idk why you’re bringing that up when I’m also literally Asian lmfao.
Yes, that is why people are getting mad. Readers practically call themselves his grandmas and aunties. Yes, let us not invalidate his feelings, but his mother came back and gave him all the love and care a child could ask for. It’s just invalidating all the years he spent with his mom because of those two months of abandonment. He grew up in a complete family. If he wants resolution, then he should talk it out with his family and make them understand that he has the right to know what happened that day. Since Byul grew up with loving parents, it’s not like Hye and Dojin will say, "Oh yeah, it’s because you were a seed of impregnation." Still, they can help him understand with a different explanation, he doesn’t need to seek strangers fir it. Only if he sits down with it with his parents.
I see no dictation happening here. Byul
Did your comment get cut off? Anyways I’m not saying Hyesung actually was dictating. I’m saying it in response to you talking about “in general parents should-“ I’m talking about what you mentioned about parents in general making decisions for their kids, is dictating in a way even if it’s not extreme.
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My replies kept sending without my consent. As I mentioned before, a parent is both a guide and a teacher to their child. Children grow their own wings, but parents teach them how to fly. I believe children need boundaries to help them make their own decisions in life. Since they are minors, parents have the responsibility to tell them what they should or shouldn’t do. However, this only applies as long as the boundaries are reasonable.
There’s no such thing as Byul’s decisions being solely his own when those decisions will hurt someone close to him, and he is aware of that. I deeply respect my family, especially my parents, because I grew up surrounded by their love and guidance. They always encouraged me to express my thoughts and ask questions when I didn’t understand something.
Byul, on the other hand, also grew up with love and a lot of freedom, and his mother is always ready to come to his aid. Yet, he doesn’t show him the respect he deserves.
Mannn why’s the commenters so boringggg. Love the poly, glad it didn’t end in a basic ass love triangle. Nothing I hate more when stories throw in a threesome sex scene only for the third to just leave the main two anyways. It would then feel unnecessary. Like why have one boyfriend when you can have TWO.
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Exactly. This is why I dislike/hate threesomes/love triangles in most BLs I read cause it usually ends in just one endgame, what a tease. I just want a nice and healthy poly relationship/throuple, is it too much to ask for? When I do get one, I end up with Shape of Us (one of the most toxic I’ve seen). I don’t mind some toxic, but BALANCE.
I heard about the novel spoilers and let it marinate after the prologue, and checked in on this just now. I’m surprised to see it’s going A LOT faster than I expected. I thought the novel spoilers were speaking like it’s future events that would happen slower over time, but the fact that pretty much 90% of the spoilers already happened within 15 chapters is shocking. I assume this will be a shorter story.
Side notes: the art is stunning and I think it really matches well with Greek mythology. I am confused by some of the comments though. There’s those that know the tale of Apollo and Daphne but are shocked by the non-consensual acts. I thought everyone who knew Greek mythology should automatically know rape is a common occurrence in several stories of Greek mythology. Lots of sexual acts, several kids from different mothers, cheating, rape, the gods and goddesses giving unfair terrible “punishments” to anyone, etc. I mean, the story that Artemis punishes her followers for being raped, should’ve said enough.
I hope this comment is seen by all who come out reading the manga...also he can ruin my life lmao-
Yknow I’ve seen some good villain side couples before, and this story isn’t one of them. The villain side couple here is just straight up annoying. Psycho whatever his name is, is always deflecting saying he’s doing it for good. But he’s really just selfish, along with that black cat. They just want the black cat to become an alpha. That’s it. So psycho did all sorts of experiments on others, making them likely die or have terrible side effects.
And spoilers alert:
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He used a mixture of his and his lovers dna to create a child, the “perfect alpha” to use for his lover. He called it the “Blue project.” Subject name: Yiho. So psycho just continuously experimenting on his literal artificial child to make his lover buff and shit. I REALLY hope there’s no redemption arc, and wish they get their karma. It would be so funny if psycho put those alpha pheromone stuff into the black cat and the black cat just flops dead lmaooo. And psycho would have the best shock and distraught look on his face.
wtf that’s so sick….so many died for this petty reason?
Thx for this information, this is so messed up of them and on top they pretend to fo it for a good cause. Literally selfish trash, they kidnapped and killed so many atp.. And recently when the psycho brought a plant into his office or whatever it was... How dare you claim to "mourn" over someones death that was your own fault?
what sickens me more is the fact that this psycho was so shooked when it happened and still want to continue like pick a side
Fr, I actually hoped that he had added the shot into him when he went to the testing lab and that psyka would enter and see his lover dead on the floor.. AND WHY DID THEY TRY TO MAKE US PITY THEM BY ADDING A BACKSTORY, IT JUST MADE ME MORE MAD
Season 3 started and is uploaded separately under another name. It’s on web/T08n, under the name ขานแหละพจาของนองชายทรราช. It takes place years after the ending of this season. We just need someone to pick it up.
Nahhh 2nd ML is on the path to becoming just as bad as the ML. (Not like there wasn’t signs of that from the moment he was in a gang and kidnapped ML).
MC rejected 2nd ML, told it to him straight that it’s weird he’s helping him and that he doesn’t like him anymore. And 2nd ML’s first thought is “I realized I like him! I’ll make the red thread connected again! I’ll kill the ML!!”
2nd ML don’t give af about MC’s feelings either.
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Anyways I MOURN the potential this story could’ve had if they went with two couples instead of a crappy love triangle. Like I said before, the older brother was confronting the 2nd lead about his actual feelings and 2nd ML is like “no way! I don’t like middle schoolers!!” But proceeds to realize he loved MC.
Why tf does the author have to like the MC. Why couldn’t he have stuck with the hot brother his own age??? They could’ve had a hot ass power couple with a cool-type personality bottom. (Random note: the brother is popular too and gets confessed to by people a lot,,,2nd fumbled).
THE AUTHOR MADE THE 2ND ML WHAT? THEY MADE HIM WANT TO KILL THE 1ML? Damnnnn. If he had to finish like this I would've preferred him to be with mc's brother lmao
SPEAK YOUR TRUTH !! I WAS SO SEATED FOR THE POTENTIAL SIDE COUPLE JUST FOR THE AUTHOR TO DO A COMPLETE DOGSHIT PLOT.
omg so he wont end up with the brother??? brooooooo ok time to drop this
It’s funny how split the readers are. We got readers who have common sense and stand for no nonsense and other readers who are delusional as hell who love their woori to bits.
The actual NEUTRAL readers who call things out would admit BOTH love interests are bad. It’s actually insane how many woori defenders there are, trying to lighten up his actions by talking about how the ML is worse. Or those saying “he communicated!!” As praise after the SA. Their biggest argument is “authors fault they ruined him!!” Or that woori is the lesser evil. The signs were always there. Woori was bound to have his feelings explode. And he also manipulated the mc as well into thinking friends normally touch each other sexually. ML is playing with MC’s feelings while woori is taking advantage of his friendship. I swear every day concerning desensitized BL readers get worse and excuse anything as long as a man is cute or acts like a puppy to cover up his wrongs. There’s ppl calling the humping SA “hot.” Yall would love Pearl boy rape scenes huh? And there are ppl genuinely confused and didn’t see the signs at all- where is your reading comprehension going?? I swear yall are the reason why ppl get so concerned with stories romanticizing toxic relationships. Because this just shows how easily influenced and gullible you are.
I’m really grossed up by a lot of yall in here. But I am also glad that there is some intelligent ppl still left in these comments.
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These people must be insanely blind if they can't see the red flag that Woori was before this. The author didn't change shit about his character. He's been manipulating and thirsting over Danwoo since the start. He literally used their "friendship" to get into his pants way before this.
Preach!
I said this too and people acted like I was insane and “didn’t understand adult sexual behavior or something.”
I remember leaving a comment of spoilers talking about how woori does this in the raws, a while back ago. I think what people aren’t getting is that woori’s character didn’t get “assassinated” or did a “180.” He was a ticking time bomb waiting to happen and he already showed the signs. Usually when characters like this are in a long time unrequited love, they bottle up their feelings and blow up one day. It’s just that a lot of readers tend to see nothing but a cute puppy face compared to the ML. The fact that a lot of ppl called the one-sided dry humping hot, is crazy. They’re so ignorant that mc didn’t want that. MC was literally excited about the sleepover with his only friend, and woori decided to hump him like a dog. And then there’s one commenter fighting for their life that it wasn’t SA saying “woori reciprocated by moving along a bit!!” Woori has been shown to easily succumb to pleasure regardless of who it is. That’s not the same as consent.
Notice the fact that woori went along with “friends touch each other.” That was already manipulation and taking advantage of mc’s naivety. He knew that. Then came this chapter where he’s very pushy. It’s like you give them a taste of the cookie, and they can’t stop being horny for it. I’m seeing this a lot more often lately that readers are not picking up on hints of 2nd MLs being red flags as well. And it always happens with a seemingly “nice/puppy” type 2nd lead. They always think the guy is pure and innocent and ignore every sign because they hate the ML in comparison. (Minwoo from that one omegaverse love triangle story is another one).
Acknowledge that BOTH love interests aren’t 100% good people. As they both take advantage of how naive and how easily mc succumbs to pleasure.
I think you got MC and Woori mixed up in some of your statement but I agree. When I first saw the raws of this chapter I was disappointed with Woori. You really cant deny the lowkey manipulation. Tbh I'm really not very much team Woori from the start coz (Not like I'm team Taehan as well lol) he's been working with him for a while and if not after his glow up he wouldn't have noticed the Danwoo. But Taehan, when he first saw Danwoo, even when he had those long locks he already noticed his features and got hooked on him right away. Though he's still a working progress, he was clear on what their status is. Anyways sorry got sidetracked a bit. You're right theyre going easy on Woori I think maybe coz he seems the underdog here? lol
The ML is so freaking fine
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Anyways I just started reading this and I hope the short haired dude stays away from the main and just gets with that trainer dude.
So right he is annoying as hell
I just came back to say after reading up to chapter 5- the short haired dude seriously just OUTTED mc?? That could’ve started so many rumors. And people really like him even after that?
I don't like him at all he just didn't wanted to accept his feelings for uke so he did that also he distance himself from uke after doing deeds but they got caught on day he did that also that jerk guy is interized homophobic i hate him so much he can die in regrets all i care seme is so good and understanding
Yeahhh he fumbled mc lol. He lost his chance so now he should move on and stay away from them.
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But I just saw like two people actually liking him, which is wild