ZuraJanai September 23, 2019 4:20 am

This feels as though they took the first few pages of the first chapter and decided to upload it

ZuraJanai September 15, 2019 9:07 pm

Is it his advisor that betrays him? The onky human close to him I can think of

    Omegaversemaniac September 15, 2019 9:29 pm

    Okay for those who are wondering, SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


















    Yes it IS the human, I can't remember ALL the details as I have not read it in awhile but there is a REASON for his betrayal, something having to do with his family being kept hostage or something. (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸 I am not too sure of this but I THINK the "SUPPOSED" Protagonist is behind it. Grrrrrrrrr! Hiiiiiiisssss!

    Anyway so breathe easy cause it DOES get resolved, first off our FMC gets it known to our ML and he helps his friend out and the two reconcile so it is a happy resolution. ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

    ZuraJanai September 16, 2019 12:32 am

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    O my, of course it has something to do with that shitty 'protagonist' smh

ZuraJanai September 5, 2019 1:01 am

This is the issue I have with this manga. First impressions of the female main lead was honestly quite promising. It felt good when she wasn't fazed by those guys and delivers justice. I really want to root for her, and yet, her entire 'strong character' is contradicted by how she was entirely dependant on her ex husband to the point where she isnt even able to sustain herself on her own. Makes you wonder how she was able to get off before she met him. If you spent some time to think about it, it really doesnt make any sense.

My next issue is that we don't even see her trying to find a job. It is essentially BECAUSE she is in such a shitty situation that's it's even more crucial for her to be desperatly looking for employment. Instead what do we see? we see a defeated woman loitering around not doing much. You dont have time to be sad! After youve tried your very best to change the situation, after youve given your all and theennn, if it still doesnt work out, only then do you start to lose hope. Show me her working with all her might to change! show me a strong character that doesnt give up like the spunk we saw in her at first! But no, she didn't even try --instead she's at the mercy of a rich dreadful asshole of a student - dont even get me started on that guy, I wouldn't want anything to do with him. Such a shame, she started as an interesting character

    tohukyo September 5, 2019 1:23 am

    now that you've pointed it out, it is strange that she hasn't gone out to find a job....just because she didn't finish high school doesn't mean she's incapable.

    jpqueen September 5, 2019 3:17 am

    I thought maybe she was just too depressed to do anything, especially after her husband cheated on her.But if so, it could have been done better also

    tohukyo September 5, 2019 6:35 am

    true; maybe she was feeling very defeated by her situation. We all get those days where nothing is going right and it's one thing after another. Personally I had this feeling a few days ago....

    Aesona sosobe September 5, 2019 2:36 pm

    My thoughts about this manga has been wonderfully described by this person

    Cloudy September 6, 2019 10:19 pm

    Omg you put it into words

    Sain_1239 February 26, 2021 10:47 am

    I get what your saying but it’s for the plot, that’s it, ofc women have jobs, this, that but in this manga she is jobless and the man was providing so no she doesn’t have a job she was robbed so no money, ofc she could’ve had a card but no cuz in this manga she doesn’t. I understand your points but you also have to consider everyone else’s as they were telling you that this isn’t so realistic. If she had or did everything you just said non of the things that has happened in the manga would happen so , just let it be. I’m saying this in the nicest way possible but your taking things a bit to seriously, the whole point of Josie’s and manhwas are the cheesy, sometimes unrealistic love encounters.

    ZuraJanai February 26, 2021 11:47 am
    I get what your saying but it’s for the plot, that’s it, ofc women have jobs, this, that but in this manga she is jobless and the man was providing so no she doesn’t have a job she was robbed so no money... Sain_1239

    Lol so old I barely remember this. Anyway if a manga doesn't make logical sense I have every right to say it doesn't. Maybe you might read manga cause it's cheesy but I don't¯_(ツ)_/¯

    Okami07 March 3, 2021 11:57 pm

    I agree with you and you put it so well
    Did you continue the story btw? Do you think it gets better?

    ZuraJanai March 4, 2021 12:08 am
    I agree with you and you put it so well Did you continue the story btw? Do you think it gets better? Okami07

    Lol idk sorry, I dropped this manga

ZuraJanai September 4, 2019 8:25 pm

Isn't that too good a dream?! He's super good at cooking and you get to eat as much yummy food as you want freshly cooked. His character is also honest and straightforward like Damnn I want one;-;

ZuraJanai September 4, 2019 7:16 pm

Wait did she not work before? Does she not have online banking? a savings account? She can't at least find a room to rent? what how does this even happen

    Msdytto September 4, 2019 7:42 pm

    Did u read the manga? She has no job,got robbed,no money,tried to rent a room till further notice but it didn't work.

    ZuraJanai September 4, 2019 8:11 pm
    Did u read the manga? She has no job,got robbed,no money,tried to rent a room till further notice but it didn't work. Msdytto

    Did you read my comment? She looked at a single place for a room and they denied her cause she didnt have money. I know she got robbed but what astounds me more is that it seems lik that was legit all her money. how does a single grown ass woman not have any money saved up from a job. With a bank account (if she even has one) Id assume you can report that your card got stolen and cut funds going there so it's unusable and then they send you a new card. You should at least still have e-transfer and money left on your account. Then you can go to an internet cafe, go to a library, and go look for part time job opportuities. At least try to do something instead of just sitting in a park.

    Who knows, maybe there are some unknown circumstances which would have made it impossible for her to save money... but at the moment thats still unknown

    ZuraJanai September 4, 2019 9:17 pm
    Did you read my comment? She looked at a single place for a room and they denied her cause she didnt have money. I know she got robbed but what astounds me more is that it seems lik that was legit all her money... ZuraJanai

    Okay so seems like there was debt from her father and her mother passed away. Idk what the rules are like in japan but there is really no reason why she should be responsible for the debt of a parent who abandonned her, especially since she was probably still a minor (where Im from debt cannot be passed on. Personal debt dies with the borrower). A pretty shitty and difficult upbringing okay, but that doesnt answer as to why as an adult she was unable to save up and get even a part time job...

    kurosaki September 4, 2019 9:19 pm
    Did you read my comment? She looked at a single place for a room and they denied her cause she didnt have money. I know she got robbed but what astounds me more is that it seems lik that was legit all her money... ZuraJanai

    Well she lives in Japan
    Traditionally the man is the head of the household and works
    Majority of families like this have the mom that have never worked because they're suppose to be a housewife

    I mean it's literally not uncommon for a house wife to have no money or work experience

    ZuraJanai September 4, 2019 9:43 pm
    Well she lives in Japan Traditionally the man is the head of the household and works Majority of families like this have the mom that have never worked because they're suppose to be a housewife I mean it's lite... kurosaki

    Looks like you don't know what you're talking about. What year do you think this is? Most women in Japan are employed. If anything more japanese women work today than american women. Women in japan are definately capable of getting a job and the image that theyre all house wifes that have never held a job is a myth. Maybe spend even a minute of time to google something before spouting false stereotypes

    ZuraJanai September 4, 2019 9:46 pm
    Well she lives in Japan Traditionally the man is the head of the household and works Majority of families like this have the mom that have never worked because they're suppose to be a housewife I mean it's lite... kurosaki

    Even without having experience you can still look for a job. Everyone starts without experience

    Msdytto September 4, 2019 11:29 pm

    Lmao it's a manga no need to get all defensive. Do u expect her to suddenly get a job,rent a small place and suddenly live on with her life? If this is the storyline then this is the storyline. You can't expect a manga to be all realistic (-_ლ)

    ZuraJanai September 5, 2019 12:18 am
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    I never said it was gonna be easy. But at the very least she can try instead of sitting at the park and doing nothing. As far as the reader is aware, she was talking about not giving up yet did nothing to back up her words.
    At some point, she had the ressources and support where she could have probably found a job, whether thats as a cashier or at a grocery store or whatever. It's not easy, but definately possible.

    ZuraJanai September 5, 2019 12:21 am
    Lmao it's a manga no need to get all defensive. Do u expect her to suddenly get a job,rent a small place and suddenly live on with her life? If this is the storyline then this is the storyline. You can't expect... Msdytto

    I'm simply arguing my point. 'harhar is jus a manga not realistic chill' is not a valid point. You could probably learn a bit of how to actually address and defend your own point

    kurosaki September 5, 2019 1:49 am
    Did you read my comment? She looked at a single place for a room and they denied her cause she didnt have money. I know she got robbed but what astounds me more is that it seems lik that was legit all her money... ZuraJanai

    Did you not read the manga ? She literally said she didn't work
    And she didn't even graduate hs :/
    You're proabbly young so maybe you don't understand
    But it's not easy finding a job when you don't have experience or even graduated hs

    To rent a place or apartment they can deny her because she can't back up her finances

    kurosaki September 5, 2019 1:51 am
    Looks like you don't know what you're talking about. What year do you think this is? Most women in Japan are employed. If anything more japanese women work today than american women. Women in japan are definate... ZuraJanai

    I said TRADITIONAL
    It's basic common sense

    Of carouse there's ppl working now but in Japan values and tradition are still a big part of their lifestyle so they do thinks the old fashion way at times
    Like the mom becoming a house wife
    And by what you said about the working women in Japan , they usually are single not married

    You're taking this way to serious
    It's fictional
    The author will make the story in a way where the main character has no other option but to go with the guy

    ZuraJanai September 5, 2019 3:25 am
    Did you not read the manga ? She literally said she didn't work And she didn't even graduate hs :/You're proabbly young so maybe you don't understand But it's not easy finding a job when you don't have experien... kurosaki

    Before I graduated highschool I worked my ass off balancing 2 part time jobs on top of my full time education. I worked so much so that I could pay off my own tuition AND move out on my own. I don't know how thats related and it's clearly you that hasnt been reading a word of what Ive said. Id really rather not be redundant and repeat myself so go see if you can go back and process anything Ive said

    ZuraJanai September 5, 2019 3:28 am
    I said TRADITIONALIt's basic common sense Of carouse there's ppl working now but in Japan values and tradition are still a big part of their lifestyle so they do thinks the old fashion way at times Like the mom... kurosaki

    How is any of that related to whatever youre trying to say? I dont even know what youre trying to argue at this point. Why is it that all the time people don't know how to defend an argument they always say the other is 'way too serious' I am literally just defending my point, somthing that you guys are clearly incapable of doing

    kurosaki September 5, 2019 3:36 am
    Before I graduated highschool I worked my ass off balancing 2 part time jobs on top of my full time education. I worked so much so that I could pay off my own tuition AND move out on my own. I don't know how th... ZuraJanai

    Uh good for you?
    not everyone's situation is the same
    I have been responding to what you said

    Instead of actually reading what I or the other person are trying to tell you in the comments you say "what are you even defending your argument"
    I have already did so
    I responded to you're original comments/questions

    And regarding back to us saying that you're taking it way to serious , you are
    You seem like you're angry that people aren't agreeing with you and want to force the idea that she does have other options

    If this was real life I would understand but there is not point in you getting angry over a fictional characters desicion
    Just enjoy the story for whT it is :)

    kurosaki September 5, 2019 3:36 am
    How is any of that related to whatever youre trying to say? I dont even know what youre trying to argue at this point. Why is it that all the time people don't know how to defend an argument they always say th... ZuraJanai

    Don't be butt hurt and have a good life

    ZuraJanai September 5, 2019 3:51 am
    Uh good for you? not everyone's situation is the same I have been responding to what you saidInstead of actually reading what I or the other person are trying to tell you in the comments you say "what are you e... kurosaki

    You were the one bringing completely unrelated info since the first place and assuming that someones typed words are angry. Absolutely hilarious.
    And no you did not. you didnt respond to a thing and everything went above your head, validating and clarifying yourself on things that didnt connect to anything. Dont respond if you cant even get you point across:) theres nothing wrong with critism or yknow thinking. Have a good day:)

    Msdytto September 5, 2019 4:21 am
    I'm simply arguing my point. 'harhar is jus a manga not realistic chill' is not a valid point. You could probably learn a bit of how to actually address and defend your own point ZuraJanai

    Arguing? You're the only one arguing LOL. We all answered your questions peacefully and you keep on saying "oH ShE cOuldVe fInD a JoB iNsteaD oF sIttInG aT thE paRK" , oh and don't get me started, we simply answered your dumb question NICELY and this is how you reply to us? Are you the mangaka? Can you change the story to how you want it to be? You think you're so smart with your 'valid point' ? Defend what point? You think this is some law shit? We're on a fucking gay ass manga website (majority). If you can't handle people answering and is just going to argue with people than don't comment shit . Good job trying to fit in logic in a manga d( ̄◇ ̄)b

    Msdytto September 5, 2019 4:38 am
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    Pfft I wasn't arguing,I just replied and this bitch got offended like ??? And sis,I'm muting this convo so don't bother writing long ass paragraphs bc it's pointless and I'm not reading it :'( . I hope you use your 'brains' in something more important than this (つ´∀`)つ

    kurosaki September 5, 2019 5:53 am
    You were the one bringing completely unrelated info since the first place and assuming that someones typed words are angry. Absolutely hilarious.And no you did not. you didnt respond to a thing and everything w... ZuraJanai

    Girl I'm so sorry you must be a teenager or a preteen to say something so damn stupid
    I feel so sorry for you getting all pent up over a manga
    you just want someone to tell you we're right or that you have a point but it doesn't matter because it's a fictional story for crying out loud
    There's nothing logical that could even explain why she doesn't have money because it's FICTIONAL

    find something productive to do with your life instead of getting mad over a fictional character that does not exist

    ZuraJanai September 5, 2019 1:05 pm
    Arguing? You're the only one arguing LOL. We all answered your questions peacefully and you keep on saying "oH ShE cOuldVe fInD a JoB iNsteaD oF sIttInG aT thE paRK" , oh and don't get me started, we simply ans... Msdytto

    Yeah I've noticed that Ive pretty much been talking to a wall. Idk what your point is because yes, I would have very much liked to see her try something instead of ending up manipulated by that unpleasant kid. Na you answered a pretty logical few questions. I say answered but you guys really didnt answer much. Well they should be the logical few questions that pop up if you thought about it for a sec. And now what youre saying is completely unrelated.
    There is absolutely no reason why I shouldnt be able to ask a question and defend a view point once again, doesnt matter tha this is a gay ass manga site. I have no clue how you thought it was me that couldnt handle it. Ive been perfectly coherent since the first place. If anything it was you guys getting riled up and you guys that shouldnt respond if you cant follow through with whatever you were trying to prove or handle a bit of povocation. At this point youre getting angry and it's not even anything to do with the manga. Maybe try looking at a mirror first before saying that.
    Alright admittedly I was mildly frustrated and bitter (although maybe you guys think thats all the same as anger LOL) that what I was saying wasnt getting through to commentors and was quite the asshole and said some unneeded things so Ill appologise for that. However my words concerning the manga still stand. Gooday to you

    ZuraJanai September 5, 2019 1:19 pm
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    classic response. Cant think of anything? 'O harhar they write lots must be angry lol' If i was aactually angry it might look somthn lik dis:

    HOW THE FUK DO U GUYS NOT UNDERSTAND THAT SHE NEEDS TO DO AT LEAST SOMETHING! WHY U EVEN TRYIN TO DEFEND HER FOR DOIN NOTHING?? EXPERIENCE, NO EXPERIENCE? NONE OF THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS IN THAT SITUATION THE FACT IS SHE MORE THAN ANYONE NEEEEEDED TO GO FIND WORK!1! AT LEAST FIND HELP (not from that dreadful child plz)
    ACTUALLY FORGET THAT! THE FACT THAT SHE DIDN HAV EXPERIENCE WORKIN EVEN ONE JOB REALLY AMAZES ME WTF WERE YOU DOING BEFORE THAT WTF WERE YOU DOING DURING THE TIME YOU WERE MARRIED AND HAD A NICE HOME?? THAT WAS THE PERFECT TIME FOR YOU TO GET EXPERIENCE!1!1 HOW TF DID YOU MAKE BY BEFORE YOURE MARRIAGE?? WHATEVER TRADITION IS COMPLETELY UNRELATED I DONT UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT IS CAUSE YOU REALLY DIDNT HAVE A POINT!!!

    end example. think of that but probably a lot less coherent

    Aesona sosobe September 5, 2019 3:07 pm
    Yeah I've noticed that Ive pretty much been talking to a wall. Idk what your point is because yes, I would have very much liked to see her try something instead of ending up manipulated by that unpleasant kid. ... ZuraJanai

    Actually I agree with you... I wanted her to at least try to find a part time job and see how she got out of her situation by her self and THEN meet the ML and teach him a lesson or something... Just read the responses to your questions with some saying "it's just a manga it's not real" although I agree with them about it not being real but what's wrong with someone not liking the story and even found potential in it?? So I guess he/she didn't like the development(?) so he/she just stated their opinion that would have made them like the story more... Y'all don't need to hate, Though thats just how this looked to me and this is just a mere opinion by a stranger agreeing to another stranger's opinion

    ZuraJanai September 5, 2019 5:36 pm
    Actually I agree with you... I wanted her to at least try to find a part time job and see how she got out of her situation by her self and THEN meet the ML and teach him a lesson or something... Just read the r... Aesona sosobe

    Yeah, in general it's a pretty classic response found a lot on the internet when people start losing an argument or cant respond back
    1) directly start talking about the other person (ex: o look at you youre probably so young. Completely unrelated and hilarious guessing the age of an anonymous internet stranger)
    2) O is jus a manga you taking this too seriously. Dont expect manga to be realistic
    Im bringing up an issue that logically makes no sense and people are against me bring it up LMAO. Also conpletely unrelated to the actual thing addressed.

    The hive mentality where theyre completely unreciprocal of the other point of view and start assuming that an internet stranger's -Written- words are angry and use each other to make eachother feel better and superior despite not even contributing to much is disgusting.

    ZuraJanai September 5, 2019 5:40 pm
    Girl I'm so sorry you must be a teenager or a preteen to say something so damn stupid I feel so sorry for you getting all pent up over a manga you just want someone to tell you we're right or that you have a po... kurosaki

    na not pent up over manga, quite irritated bout som dum commentors tho:3 Ya it really is an absolute waste of time when trying to communicate with people who cant address a point and sidetrack to things that arent related with trying to preach to you:)

    Aesona sosobe September 5, 2019 11:32 pm

    Forgive me for interrupting but did you read that comment wrong?? He/she literally said "If I was actually angry it might look like this"may I add that it just looked like they were just defending their opinion and for me there is nothing wrong with adding logic in manga. So they didn't like the manga and just commented what they would have liked to see?? Whats so wrong with that?? It's just an opinion it doesn't change the manga in some way anyway so whats the harm of stating your opinions??

    ZuraJanai September 6, 2019 2:26 am
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    bruh. im actually sorta impressed with how much (baseless) confidance you have despite having a lack of reading comprehension. Even having the gall to reply to something when you even admitted youre not gonna read it all. Amazing. Why are you even here??

    ZuraJanai September 6, 2019 2:57 am
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    Youve literally contributed nothing by being here. The more I think about it, the more it baffles me why youre on this thread. Maybe stick to picture books instead.

    ZuraJanai September 6, 2019 3:34 am
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    Na talking with you is making me lose brain cells. This is honestly quite sad and pointless. Bye and gooday to you

    NotKim September 6, 2019 6:54 am

    This thread is a damn mess and I read it all goddamn. I saw some fair points made on both ends, but my god it's like ya'll never learned how to debate: you know presenting your arguments without attacking each other?? There were no winners in this.

    ZuraJanai September 6, 2019 12:15 pm
    This thread is a damn mess and I read it all goddamn. I saw some fair points made on both ends, but my god it's like ya'll never learned how to debate: you know presenting your arguments without attacking each ... NotKim

    I was up for civil conversation the entire time, albeit put a few jabs in there. They got more riled up than I expected. Whoops, my bad. Where were the fair points from them? Please, enlighten me as I couldnt quite see em.
    Ye admittedly twas quite petty of me to rise up to the provocation.

    ZuraJanai September 6, 2019 11:45 pm
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    Lmao you just keep getting provoked, don't you

    ZuraJanai September 7, 2019 12:30 am
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    Alrighty then. Out of pure curiosity, how do you decide what you'll read and what you won't read

    ZuraJanai September 7, 2019 1:17 am
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    Lol not exactly what I was going for but ok. If it's manga we talkin bout I think I'd read pretty much anything that seems interesting? With a personality like mine it's probably hard to believe, but I like wholesome fluffy stuff lmao

    ZuraJanai September 7, 2019 1:34 am
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    huh. Not as dumb as you let on;) nicely done

    Sabrina September 11, 2019 5:07 am
    huh. Not as dumb as you let on;) nicely done ZuraJanai

    i agree with everything else you FIRST stated, except for the job part. Assuming she didnt have a bank account and kept all her money on her (which some people do) How is she supposed to get a job if all of it was stolen? all she has is the clothes she was wearing, which are not presentable for an interview, even a part time job interview. Honestly would like to know the answer as to how she was supposed to be able to get a job like that? thats why homeless people have a hard time finding a job (no showers, no extra clothes or at least interview appropriate ones) even interviewing for something like Mcdonalds you have to wear more formal clothes and be presentable. :/

    Sabrina September 11, 2019 5:12 am
    i agree with everything else you FIRST stated, except for the job part. Assuming she didnt have a bank account and kept all her money on her (which some people do) How is she supposed to get a job if all of it ... Sabrina

    Actually, she could get a loan, but that would also be going against her personality/headstrong beliefs and i wouldn't want to either if i grew up watching my parents rack up debt through loans. So that would be her last resort if anything...

    Sain_1239 February 26, 2021 10:50 am

    I get what your saying but it’s for the plot, that’s it, ofc women have jobs, this, that but in this manga she is jobless and the man was providing so no she doesn’t have a job she was robbed so no money, ofc she could’ve had a card but no cuz in this manga she doesn’t. I understand your points but you also have to consider everyone else’s as they were telling you that this isn’t so realistic. If she had or did everything you just said non of the things that has happened in the manga would happen so , just let it be. I’m saying this in the nicest way possible but your taking things a bit to seriously, the whole point of Josie’s and manhwas are the cheesy, sometimes unrealistic love encounters.

ZuraJanai September 2, 2019 3:07 am

Show me a manga where the drowning and cpr is actually accurate lmao

    ZuraJanai September 2, 2019 3:09 am

    Or maybe one where they can actually swim lol

    trash September 2, 2019 5:05 am

    im sorry but we dont do that here

    A pox upon your family September 2, 2019 9:00 am
    Or maybe one where they can actually swim lol ZuraJanai

    Burn her at the stake! She can swim! She must be a witch

    No seriously they thought that about women who could swim

ZuraJanai August 27, 2019 6:18 am

Wow. Gusari at it again with the beautiful stories. Never fails to deliver

ZuraJanai August 22, 2019 5:49 am

The programmer story where they didn't back up their code ....>.>

ZuraJanai August 19, 2019 4:31 am

This is such a gem!?! Can't get enough of this fluff

ZuraJanai August 15, 2019 3:36 am

Don't really get the backstory.. just say that you like someone else, no need to be a dick about it and make her out to be 'evil'

    Yaoi2277 August 15, 2019 10:57 am

    The story is that she used to protect 2 prince and when she died she was reborn and became the one of the prince that she had to protect’s fiancé... sorry I am not good at describing stuff.. :(

    ZuraJanai August 16, 2019 6:39 pm
    The story is that she used to protect 2 prince and when she died she was reborn and became the one of the prince that she had to protect’s fiancé... sorry I am not good at describing stuff.. :( Yaoi2277

    Sorry, looks like I accidentally commented this on the wrong manga.. whoops. Thank you for the explaination though

    Tweety September 8, 2019 9:32 pm

    Oh I think I know which one you're referring to! Is it the one called "The Evil Lady will change", right?

    ZuraJanai September 9, 2019 2:55 am
    Oh I think I know which one you're referring to! Is it the one called "The Evil Lady will change", right? Tweety

    Lol I feel like it's relavent to quite a few manga of this genre, including that one

    Tweety September 9, 2019 4:09 am

    Lol true. I just read yet another one with quite a similar premise

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