Okay, I'm just sick and bored of this couple, especially the black haired guy he is just annoying as fuck like damn boy, just be honest my god! i feel sorry for the white haired guy, like he is just being honest even though when the other dude did to him bad things. I just really don't get the direction of this couple ah....and more about what is thinking the black haired guy( I can't even figure out his name lol)
I also don’t like their relationship that much （￣へ￣）
It’s literally so annoying he won’t let him do his own thing without being so sexual like damn he’s broke and needs a place to stay that’s all bruh
Same man... their story is getting repetitive too I just argh
Damn Man! he's just in his 50s, why does the author draws him like a grandpa!!
I was wondering!!! When I saw his age I was like damn, he looks much more like 75.
But he’s still fine
It makes me wonder if the mangaka has ever seen a man in his 50s.
Some people need to be more open minded about this kind of stories. Not all BLs are lovey dovey and it's okay. I like the fact that it was not predictable and the characters were pretty decent in my opinion but not at the point of being obnoxious. I like how they behave, it was pretty realistic and also, I liked the dad character so much he needs a spin-off so bad!!!!!
I would have liked it if Daniel had some sort of redemption but he seems to have narcissistic tendencies. That scene where Daniel said “you’ll take me back because you love me” was fucked up. I don’t want all that lovey-dovey stuff like you assume, I just want good people, not manipulators.
Daniel was toxic. Pure toxicity and he didn't change one bit at the end.
But he kinda did.
But he didn’t.
Also (to the OG)I’ve read some toxic shit like crazy psychological yaoi with very manipulative and abusive people and absolutely love the manga but I didn’t like this. Other manga present it in a more appealing way, while this just straight out gives shitty (personality wise) characters with no charisma to them. Compared to other manga that make me think “oh I hate this character but I don’t HATE them” unlike this one where it’s just flat out “he’s a jerk and there’s nothing good about him from beginning to end”
it's okay, I respect your opinion. For me was different, that's why I liked it as a story, I've been reading lately too much cliche and to read this was a refreshing thing for me lol I get why people don't like it though!
ye ye I totally get you, I've read some twisted stories as well and I loved some of them like (Niichan by Harada or Itou-san by Kuraka sui or the other one by Nekota:Hidoku shinaide I think? this was pretty toxic at the beginning )I think the characters on this manga are totally jerks as well however I like that they act like in a realistic way? not like some mangas out there with the confused feelings or trauma or whaterver. You're free to hate it of course. My point was that I liked it, not because of the good characters but because of the plot:It was new, interesting, Different. That it. It's just fantasy by the way, don't take it too seriously.
Exactly, nothing is sugar coated it’s really just straightforward, dumb and horny dudes being straightforward, dumb and horny dudes.
I found it fresh and new. I do love this.
I love the fact that even though he loved him, he didn't do anything bad to ruin their relationship and in addition he cheer ups them! that's so nice! he needs a good man for him, I want a story focused on him so bad ahhh
I don't really know. I mean, all their relationships are basically pretty toxic, I don't know if the main couple are in love or what, I can't really tell. Sometimes I think myself "woah they are so cute" but then a wild bullshit happens or karino does something bad to the other guy and I'm like nevermind then :/ hahaha
I love that here the uke maintains his t shirt and the seme is taking it off when in most mangas the uke is always naked and the seme not, I love it, and both of them look so masculineლ(´ڡ`ლ)
Why is not a thing on the BL community, I never understood the bottom and top thing when in reality gay people change roles, It would be much interesting and fun for them to change and try
Ikr!!! I for a stooopid second thought hojun would be getting the dickin but it was just a ride. Would’ve been nice to have a switch couple but nope. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
it's because 99% of the time it's straight women who are writing yaoi. they never make it realistic because it's just a fantasy. i agree with you though, i hate how switches are so rare in yaoi.
I know, but what happened to the imagination? I'm a woman too and I want to see that! they seemed too versatile, it would be a waste for them not to switch places, they are so hot that I think it would work! I hate that in the BL community they are limited and okay with the specific roles for each one, love to see if that thing changes in the future
if im not wrong, there are yaoi mangas here that switch, but its mostly one shots yakno, i agree with u
ye, I am aware of that but my point is that is not very common to see that, I would like to be a common thing and not just a tabu
it always makes me laugh seeing straight women decry BL/yaoi because 'people switch irl! top/bottom doesn't really happen!'
download grindr or involve yourself in the gay community at all and come back to me with that lol. yes there are verse gays but top/bottoms exist as well, characters switching is not inherently more realistic. believe me
precisely, but maybe to each their own on what they believe in
girl, what r you talking about, I've seen gay people conplaining about the fact that BL lovers fetishize the top/bottom thing when in real life that thing is mainly inexistent, I am not saying that it doesn't exist but it is more common for them to switch and that is a fact! I am completely aware that all BL stories are fantasy and nothing else, however I would like to see more versatility in the stories such as the switch roles, that's all.
I'm a gay man lol. It absolutely is a thing.
okay then, ahahaha sorry for assuming your gender lolol I'm confused by the fact that you're so open minded to this kind of things lolol I have some gay friends in which I have shown them some yaoi and they were like, we are not like that -_- they prefer the bara genre and that's okay and for you to enjoy this it surprises me. Good to know that you enjoy this apart from being cliche or fanciful.
At the beginning I really thought that this couple was interesting but now I am starting to get bored, I mean, they don't have a direction, he just kept ignoring the bottom feelings and is quite possesive plus the bottom doesn't know what he wants or what is he going to do what the hell, I really miss the other couple, I would like a development between this two right now otherwise I would get tired of it
so.. we are all agree that Kenji's actitude is so annoying and so tedious uhhh（#￣へ￣）
I would neveerr get tired of this piece of art right here, it's just magnificent. The characters, the city where it takes place, the atmosphere itself it's just perfect, the story might be a little cliche but that doesn't change the fact that it's very pleasant not just for the eyes but for your soul and heart as well. I fell for the amazing art at first reading but I kept captivated by the charisma of the characters as well and the simple story that leads into an amazing feel of nostalgia for some reason. The erotic parts are an exquisitenes due to the delicacy of the drawing and few dialogues (but sufficient) that kept the environment just more pleasant than before.I highly recommend the CD drama as well; the voice actores made and excellent job, they just portrayed the characters feelings just as I imagined!!