Quicksilver February 24, 2021 6:25 pm

pedophiliaphobia. What good is it when you're Korean but not brave? I count on you to be brave along with all the other raging glory that is so potent in your art.
Why do you throw away all the rules of show don't tell when it comes to affection? Two characters with this much angst need at least one sign of physical love, a kiss and as important: a damned embrace! Otherwise I don't know when the tide is inching toward a happy crash onto the shore. WTF?
This dips a tiny toe into yaoi land. bravo. When shounen ai caters to nursery schoolers, as it definitely does when it's so sanitary that the lovers never get within two feet of each other, it's perverted. I said it, and I mean it.
Of course I loved this. I hated when the author threw away all the color of her setting when she pulled them out of high school, but I loved it. I recommend it, of course. I'm angry at it for not getting the sugar cube timing right, but otherwise...

    himbostanaccount February 24, 2021 7:43 pm

    what are you saying
    this paragraph makes no sense

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 1:16 am
    what are you saying this paragraph makes no sense himbostanaccount

    fair enough. I think there has to be some relief from all the angst a tiny bit sooner - before the extras; that the two characters should, at some point, show that the story and characters have shifted into a more loving position by showing it, meaning they need to at least have one moment where they embrace each other and kiss. I keep reading stories where the love doesn't happen till after the lovers leave the original setting, in this case high school, when years pass, and they have moved into different positions in society. The loss of local color is too big a loss. It's creates loss and sadness in an already moody story.
    I don't think a love story that shows tragedy, angst, and sexual love should cater to little children. I think that's perverted. I don't think children should be reading it. It's too advanced. Parents are lazy, permissive, and this world demands too much of adults for them to be so delusional as to think they can raise more than two kids.
    I think all the shonen ai is being done for kids because kids have more disposable income than any other demographic.
    I think this would have been a beautiful yaoi stories without all the stupid strictures of shonen ai.
    I think the art is extremely well done, beautifully composed, and well-timed. It evokes just the right emotions. Too bad it couldn't fulfill its full potential by attaining the maturity of a yaoi story. I love the story and recommend it even with those few flaws.

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 1:25 am
    what are you saying this paragraph makes no sense himbostanaccount

    does that make more sense?

    himbostanaccount February 25, 2021 3:26 am
    does that make more sense? Quicksilver

    okay yeah that makes a lot more sense lol

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 3:29 am
    okay yeah that makes a lot more sense lol himbostanaccount

    good. lol ty for pointing that out

    ggrron March 2, 2021 2:06 am

    Giving me very much Noah Centineo “It matters not, what you've done, but what you do with what you've done... for others“

    Quicksilver March 2, 2021 5:44 am
    Giving me very much Noah Centineo “It matters not, what you've done, but what you do with what you've done... for others“ ggrron

    ty, nice.... but Imma counter with:
    It matters not how strait the gate, how charged with punishments the scroll,
    I am the master of my fate. I am the captain of my soul.
    Henley is saying "you can beat me all you want. What matters is that I'm in charge of me"
    I like both thoughts very much. ty ggron

    Quicksilver March 2, 2021 5:46 am
    Giving me very much Noah Centineo “It matters not, what you've done, but what you do with what you've done... for others“ ggrron

    lol this is nice, blue, and very Rah "law of one"

Quicksilver February 22, 2021 3:39 am

Pissing on this gorgeous art by stamping that little-girl sig all over it, covering up this terrific artist's work, makes you a selfish, undeserving asshole. Wherever you are, I hope you're listening, you little creep.

    TakusTaco February 22, 2021 3:59 am

    Wtf is wrong with you? You know that stamp is a watermark which is always seen on the illegal korean websites like toonkor/newtoki. That person translating chapter 2 basically got the raws from there, the watermark was already there and they probably don't have the tools and skills to remove it. So no, they also didn't pay for it. The original raws wouldn't have had a watermark. I hated the sloppy cropping, the constant apologies under the panels and the bad Google translation too, but that still doesn't give anyone the right to insult someone and call them bad names. You have 4 choices in such cases,
    1. You ask them KINDLY to stop translating this and let someone else pick this up,
    2. You pay for it and translate it yourself,
    3. You wait for the official translation,
    or 4. you shut up and just take what you get.

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 4:21 am

    Whoever stamped shlt all over this artist's work is an asshole. No matter how much you bltch at me, that doesn't change. That you're actually making a case for some spoiled brat to use their color crayons to mark on someone's art is for shlt. This artist's work is too good for that, and your griping has less than zero effect on me.

    TakusTaco February 22, 2021 4:32 am
    Whoever stamped shlt all over this artist's work is an asshole. No matter how much you bltch at me, that doesn't change. That you're actually making a case for some spoiled brat to use their color crayons to ... Quicksilver

    Lmao who hurt you I literally only explained the situation to you, I didn't defend anyone, I just prefer to solve things in a more peaceful way. If you worship that artist's work so much, then why are you even here? I hope you know this site is illegal and you're literally not supporting your dear artist in any way by not paying them a single penny.

    TakusTaco February 22, 2021 4:43 am
    Whoever stamped shlt all over this artist's work is an asshole. No matter how much you bltch at me, that doesn't change. That you're actually making a case for some spoiled brat to use their color crayons to ... Quicksilver

    Lmao who hurt you I literally only explained the situation to you, I didn't defend anyone, I just prefer to solve things in a more peaceful way. If you worship this artists' work so much, then why are you even here? This is an illegal site, you're not supporting the artist in any way by not paying them a single penny. Also what are you trying to prove to me? I don't care if my comment has any "effect" on you since I was trying to educate you, meanwhile you're trying to make it sound like I'm bullying you, which isn't the case. You're the one being rude. Maybe you're also just a troll, whatever.

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 5:20 am
    Lmao who hurt you I literally only explained the situation to you, I didn't defend anyone, I just prefer to solve things in a more peaceful way. If you worship this artists' work so much, then why are you even... TakusTaco

    sure thing. you weren't rude at all. You just want peace. It's not about you just wanting to bltch, you were just trying to educate me. That's what you're selling? Liar. Saying, "who hurt you?" is not your own original thought. It's just something lots of other people say, and it's condescending. When you dedicate your whole life to art, you also can read this stuff for free. What's your excuse? Calling people trolls is not nice. I'm supporting artists by defending them when they aren't here to defend themselves. No, I'm bullying you, dumb shlt. I don't call things illegal when I'm benefitting from their generosity. You should stop biting the hand that feeds you all those Tacos, Taku.

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 5:21 am
    Lmao who hurt you I literally only explained the situation to you, I didn't defend anyone, I just prefer to solve things in a more peaceful way. If you worship this artists' work so much, then why are you even... TakusTaco

    *conscience free

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 5:28 am
    Lmao who hurt you I literally only explained the situation to you, I didn't defend anyone, I just prefer to solve things in a more peaceful way. If you worship this artists' work so much, then why are you even... TakusTaco

    LOL I just looked at your pfp. it's cute

    TakusTaco February 22, 2021 5:54 am
    sure thing. you weren't rude at all. You just want peace. It's not about you just wanting to bltch, you were just trying to educate me. That's what you're selling? Liar. Saying, "who hurt you?" is not you... Quicksilver

    LMFAOOOO THIS IS HILARIOUS Look, I said I PREFER to solve things more peacefully but that doesn't mean I'll tolerate all the bullshit you're throwing at me. I don't owe you any kindness when you've been rude from the very start. You're a lil' delusional one. The artist will give a crap about your dedication to art when you're not paying for their hard work. What are you imagining? If the artist would see all this BS, they wouldn't think "Oh, someone defended my art! Someone complained and whined about the illegal watermarks put on my drawings! How thoughtful of them!" they'd more likely be like "...and? You're not any better than them, reading my pirated work for free and not supporting me". Sis you're a hypocrite, I hope you'll come to realise that one day. Just because you dedicate your whole life to art doesn't give you a free travel ticket, as we like to say in german. I also can't go to a book store and demand the cashier to give me the books for free because I have dedicated my whole life to reading and writing, so I deserve these books for free and other people don't. Dumbass logic. But if you think that's exactly your logic, why don't you try it out yourself IRL, bet the police will have a lot of fun dealing with your smart blabbering

    TakusTaco February 22, 2021 5:58 am
    LOL I just looked at your pfp. it's cute Quicksilver

    Yea thanks but I still kindly ask you to fuck off now. Have a great day.

    mommylongbeds February 22, 2021 6:28 am
    Yea thanks but I still kindly ask you to fuck off now. Have a great day. TakusTaco

    SIS OWNED THAT BITCH.

    Miara February 22, 2021 9:40 am
    Yea thanks but I still kindly ask you to fuck off now. Have a great day. TakusTaco

    Lmao this reminded me of my reply to someone here ages ago omg I laughed so hard when I read this

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 1:21 pm
    LMFAOOOO THIS IS HILARIOUS Look, I said I PREFER to solve things more peacefully but that doesn't mean I'll tolerate all the bullshit you're throwing at me. I don't owe you any kindness when you've been rude f... TakusTaco

    you said, "The artist will give a crap about your dedication to art when you're not paying for their hard work." Can you prove that specious statement? No. You cannot. You call me "Sis" I'm not your sister. I usually don't give a shlt if someone says "she" and "her" to me, but I don't want to hear it from you. You've been quite rude to me from the start. From the start I wasn't even talking to you, so, no, I was not rude to you from the start. You started this. Now. You don't believe in any solidarity among artists. Is that what you're trying to run by me? You think, say, among doctors there's no professional courtesy, as in I'll treat you for free because you also are a doctor? You're saying these things don't exist? How old are you? come the hell on. You keep throwing insults at me, yet say you won't tolerate any shlt from my smart blabbering mouth?
    I don't even care if you're rude to me. It's as cute to me as your pfp. I don't care. You say you've dedicated your whole life to writing? Prove it. Put your money where your mouth is. Reference some of your writing. Prove that.
    I don't like it when people deface someone's art and disfigure the drawings of their characters. I do not like it. That was my entire point. You jumped my shit for it. You'll defend an artist who isn't here, but try to piss on one who is. That's hypocrisy.

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 1:28 pm
    SIS OWNED THAT BITCH. mommylongbeds

    I don't know how you arrive at people's genders so assuredly, mommy (LOL!), but I don't like it, and no one owns me, okay? I'm not anyone's bitch. In fact I'm not a bitch. Refer to yourself or don't say any of this gender shlt to me. What the hell are you even doing in this?

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 1:34 pm
    Lmao this reminded me of my reply to someone here ages ago omg I laughed so hard when I read this Miara

    "this reminded me of my reply to someone here ages ago. omg I laughed so hard when I read this" What the hell? You're ganging up? This is what you people like you and Taco always do. Pick sides. Jump into the fray. You are for shit for playing games like this. Go pick your own fight. Don't do it here as if you're Taco's sycophant. Go ahead, keep coming at me, lackey of the person who started the fight.

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 1:47 pm
    Lmao who hurt you I literally only explained the situation to you, I didn't defend anyone, I just prefer to solve things in a more peaceful way. If you worship this artists' work so much, then why are you even... TakusTaco

    It's my topic, and I mean it, and I'll say it again to all of you who attack someone who is doing nothing more than defending the artist of this really terrific manhwa. Keep forming gangs like a nursery school clique. You pay lip service to supporting artists, but you're all too ready to fight about it when someone defends a specific artist of an admirable manhwa. I don't care if we're standing on the corner reading a manhwa someone stole out of the comic book store. In any venue, I still say it's shitty of you to speak against anyone supporting artists in any way while you're sitting on your fat asses reading their stuff, and it is especially reprehensible to support the act of marking all over an artist's art.

    Miara February 22, 2021 1:51 pm
    "this reminded me of my reply to someone here ages ago. omg I laughed so hard when I read this" What the hell? You're ganging up? This is what you people like you and Taco always do. Pick sides. Jump into... Quicksilver

    1: I wasn't replying to you so shut the fuck up and stop playing the victim she replied and murdered your ass and that's the truth lol

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 1:59 pm
    1: I wasn't replying to you so shut the fuck up and stop playing the victim she replied and murdered your ass and that's the truth lol Miara

    according to you, which is about as true as the propaganda lil tako is selling. I started this topic, so, yes, you were replying to me.

    Miara February 22, 2021 2:15 pm
    according to you, which is about as true as the propaganda lil tako is selling. I started this topic, so, yes, you were replying to me. Quicksilver

    You are so dumb I can't even take you seriously, you were literally attacking people and all of a sudden you want to play the victim, can't handle an argument don't start it in the first place, acting like a creep saying shit like "I checked your profile" and then acting like justice league saying that you are defending authors work.

    First of all...., get your facts right instead of bitching the watermarks comes from the rawr website so is not the uploader or translators fault.

    Second if it pisses you off so much, why don't you get up your FAT LASY ASS and do better, isn't that what you said yourself? Go on, do better instead of complaining.

    Third you act as if your insuts towards others are defending the author, have you read your own replies you deserve no respect, if you believe you can read this for free, what the hell are you doing here? Oh I guess you can't read it for free unless you read it from here.

    Lastly, stop being a hypocrite, you started the fight and now you want to blame others, typical of people like you, playing the victim must be your specialty.... don't pick a fight with me, taco was way too nice to you I on the other hand won't be.

    Have a great day author supporter who reads her works illegally and pays nothing for it and demands it to me watermark free lol clown.

    Miara February 22, 2021 2:16 pm
    according to you, which is about as true as the propaganda lil tako is selling. I started this topic, so, yes, you were replying to me. Quicksilver

    Lazy ass*

    Miara February 22, 2021 2:19 pm
    You are so dumb I can't even take you seriously, you were literally attacking people and all of a sudden you want to play the victim, can't handle an argument don't start it in the first place, acting like a cr... Miara

    Lazy ass* your insults*

    Oh and one more thing, if you want to support the author go buy her work instead of bitching about it on illegal website

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 2:19 pm
    Lazy ass* your insults* Oh and one more thing, if you want to support the author go buy her work instead of bitching about it on illegal website Miara

    Go buy my work

    mommylongbeds February 22, 2021 3:26 pm
    I don't know how you arrive at people's genders so assuredly, mommy (LOL!), but I don't like it, and no one owns me, okay? I'm not anyone's bitch. In fact I'm not a bitch. Refer to yourself or don't say any ... Quicksilver

    Yeah I sincerely apologize for assuming and genders and calling u a bitch, that wasn’t very mature of me so sorry. I just think it was very funny and I’m not trying to get involved in y’all arguments but she’s right, I mean it’s good that you as an artist appreciate someone’s work but come one you’re in an illegal website, you as an artist should know better how much it takes to make something and for you to come here and read it HERE that’s not appreciating it at all.

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 4:27 pm
    Yeah I sincerely apologize for assuming and genders and calling u a bitch, that wasn’t very mature of me so sorry. I just think it was very funny and I’m not trying to get involved in y’all arguments but ... mommylongbeds

    I appreciate it your kindness. I don't think she's right, though, and her personal rudeness toward me was annoying. You telling me she's right, honestly, is annoying. This artist would let me read this manhwa for free if I asked. Also, illegal or not, being here is how I keep up with the industry.
    I really don't see why you feel a need to be apologetic to me and extend such kindness regarding my gender. I'd rather you be kind to me about being an artist, and flip me off for making a fuss about assuming my gender.
    I can understand, I guess, you thinking it's funny. I think lots of things are funny that other people don't, and I didn't say what I said to make enemies. Still, it's infuriating to me to see marks all over the actual bodies of the characters of such beautiful art, and I realize other people don't see it that way, but, to me, it's the same way I'd feel if someone graffitied Michaelangelo's Statue of David or the Winged Nike.
    Thank you for your reply. much appreciated.

    TakusTaco February 22, 2021 4:47 pm
    you said, "The artist will give a crap about your dedication to art when you're not paying for their hard work." Can you prove that specious statement? No. You cannot. You call me "Sis" I'm not your sister... Quicksilver

    I believe something must be wrong with your brain.
    1. Why don't you ask the author yourself? What will happen is that they'll threat to drop their work or sue you or the uploaders. Congratulations you delusional twat.

    2. I know damn well you're not my sister and I'm beyond glad you're not. Why are you taking every little thing LITERALLY?

    3. Oh, you weren't talking to me from the start? You made a public comment, and there is a "reply" button for a reason, I am always allowed to tell you my opinion and you have to expect getting criticism, especially when you're saying delusional dumb BS like this. Hilarious. If you don't want critical replies, just talk to a wall at this point.

    4. You should carefully read our whole conversation again, then you should notice that your original comment was already rude from the start. My first reply to you wasn't exactly rude, I was basically expressing me being shocked and irritated from your unnecessary rude behavior, but overall I was still trying to be kind. I became rude because you wouldn't stop insulting me, therefore you don't deserve any kindness from me. You get treated like you treat others and I didn't start it, no matter how much you wanna twist it to your liking: YOU started it.

    5. Can't you READ? I was making an EXAMPLE. Did no one ever teach you that? An example can be random picked. Which I did. I don't have to prove shit to you. I was using the example of reading/writing because if I used the topic "art", your pea brain would've understand my point even less. For examples, it's the whole point of using something different to prove your point because the other person wouldn't get it with the original topic.

    6. Idfc what kind of "artist" you are when you are part of a whole website that indirectly disrespects a hell lot of manga/webtoon artists by reading their pirated work illegally for free, when they are working their asses of for it and even LIVE from the money they should get for it. At least I'm admitting it. I feel bad for it and I've sworn to myself that as soon as I get a stable income, that I will pay every single chapter that I have read back to the artists. You should do that too. At least that would ACTUALLY make an impact. You complaining and whining about the watermarks didn't and will never change anything. You did nothing for the artist. Not on a physical level, and also not a spiritual level, you did nothing for them. You're just selfish and trying to prove something to yourself. You sound like it's all about you. I've realised. You give a shit about the artist of this webtoon.

    TakusTaco February 22, 2021 4:59 pm
    "this reminded me of my reply to someone here ages ago. omg I laughed so hard when I read this" What the hell? You're ganging up? This is what you people like you and Taco always do. Pick sides. Jump into... Quicksilver

    Lmao why are you always assuming things on your own "This is what you people like you and Taco always do" You don't even know me. And again, you're being delusional. I should make a counter for this. Who tf is ganging up here? No one. I don't even know these people, I didn't call for them. AGAIN, this is a PUBLIC comment section and if people read this and wanna speak their mind, then they should do that. If they agree with me or with you doesn't matter. Ganging up means I'm intentionally gathering people I know here to jump on you because I can't do it on my own, but I sure as hell can deal with your ass on my own, don't worry. No one is ganging up here.

    TakusTaco February 22, 2021 5:04 pm
    SIS OWNED THAT BITCH. mommylongbeds

    Ate 'em up like I do with my tacos

    Now watch them call me fat because they have no arguments left

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 5:18 pm
    You are so dumb I can't even take you seriously, you were literally attacking people and all of a sudden you want to play the victim, can't handle an argument don't start it in the first place, acting like a cr... Miara

    Hey, Justice League is one of my longtime favorite comic books. I love it you said that. I used to collect it, and, yes, I paid for it.
    If you don't think I can do better, that's fine. You didn't think Taco's pfp was cute?
    Damn, woman, I didn't start it. You think what Taco said to me first: "Wtf is wrong with you?" and "shut up and just take what you get" were Taco being too nice to me? Cuz I didn't see it that way.
    I think I'm pretty good at playing the victim. No? LOL
    I don't think you meant that "have a nice day." LOL I consider being called a clown a compliment, so thanks for that. No one's called me that since grade school, and I've missed it. lmao. Posting this shlt is my way of avoiding work, so thanks again for the distraction. LOL

    TakusTaco February 22, 2021 5:19 pm
    You are so dumb I can't even take you seriously, you were literally attacking people and all of a sudden you want to play the victim, can't handle an argument don't start it in the first place, acting like a cr... Miara

    PREACH!! Agreed with you on every point.
    Talking to this person kills off my poor braincells, sometimes it feels so unreal to me that people like them actually exist and mean what they say. Let's stop talking to them, we're honestly wasting our precious time on them and they don't deserve our time, nor our attention. Since this seems like what they want. They keep saying "I don't care I don't care mimimimi" but reply on every single comment here, sounding bitter af. I guess they do care. I'm tired of trying to lecture some weird stranger on the internet so let's just go.
    Their argument will be: "Oh you're leaving? Guess you have no arguments anymore, I've won" To this I'd like to say: Quicksilver, you've won shit. All the arguments that were needed for you, are available to read for you in this comment section. You can read it over and over again, but I won't feed you something new anymore. I bet you know that frustrating feeling when you're trying to prove your point to someone and they leave you on read, secretly laughing at you? Yea, I'll give that to you. I'll invest my time more effectively on something else, bye. Have fun being bitter.

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 5:21 pm
    Lmao why are you always assuming things on your own "This is what you people like you and Taco always do" You don't even know me. And again, you're being delusional. I should make a counter for this. Who tf is... TakusTaco

    I'd say ganging up was voluntary.

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 5:35 pm

    Maria's is a preacher? Get me outa here. LOL It figures with that name. I'd say now Maria and you are definitely ganging up. LOL Hey, I care. That's mean. I noticed how I'd killed off some of your brain cells. How will you live without them?
    Thank you for saying I've won. You're too generous. much appreciated. I admit I sometimes read my own arguments again and sometimes even masturbate to them. No one's perfect.

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 5:38 pm
    Ate 'em up like I do with my tacosNow watch them call me fat because they have no arguments left TakusTaco

    c'mon, ms taco, don't be fatphobic.

    Miara February 22, 2021 7:21 pm
    PREACH!! Agreed with you on every point.Talking to this person kills off my poor braincells, sometimes it feels so unreal to me that people like them actually exist and mean what they say. Let's stop talking to... TakusTaco

    Don't waste any more time on this person, honestly it's useless, just ignore them, people like that hates being ignored that's why they keep trying to trigger you to keep replying to them, they are attention seekers so let's just go buddy, someone else will probably reply to their bullshit next time but not us

    Quicksilver February 22, 2021 9:04 pm
    Don't waste any more time on this person, honestly it's useless, just ignore them, people like that hates being ignored that's why they keep trying to trigger you to keep replying to them, they are attention se... Miara

    I would debate who is triggering who.

    miki February 22, 2021 10:00 pm
    Wtf is wrong with you? You know that stamp is a watermark which is always seen on the illegal korean websites like toonkor/newtoki. That person translating chapter 2 basically got the raws from there, the water... TakusTaco

    You two can tell yurselves you "owned" the guy, but he argued circles around you. He did'nt start it. He wasn't even talking to you tacytaco. He scored more than two logical arguments for every one of you two's put together, and he obviously "owned" you. lmao. Plus, he's on the right side of the issue. I'm reading this whole entertaining match from the start where he's speaking out for the artist, and all you doing is being noisy with a load of pissy nonsense. LOL

    miki February 22, 2021 11:46 pm

    talent's rare. a lot of people don't know that, but it is. You two gals sitting there defending translators and uploaders, but cranking down hard on an actual artist. I dunno what you're thinking, but.... lol Did you screw your heads on backwards t9day. lmao

    mommylongbeds February 23, 2021 6:02 am
    I appreciate it your kindness. I don't think she's right, though, and her personal rudeness toward me was annoying. You telling me she's right, honestly, is annoying. This artist would let me read this manhw... Quicksilver

    yeah I think I now get what you're saying, and I'm not trying to side with anyone but everyone can express their opinions and now I think you're just expressing yours as an artist watching another artist's work being marked like if it were theirs is upsetting, so yeah I get what you mean now, and sorry again for calling u a bitch lolol.

    mommylongbeds February 23, 2021 6:04 am
    Maria's is a preacher? Get me outa here. LOL It figures with that name. I'd say now Maria and you are definitely ganging up. LOL Hey, I care. That's mean. I noticed how I'd killed off some of your brain... Quicksilver

    masturbate??????? lmao.

    Mai February 23, 2021 3:14 pm
    yeah I think I now get what you're saying, and I'm not trying to side with anyone but everyone can express their opinions and now I think you're just expressing yours as an artist watching another artist's work... mommylongbeds

    At least one of you were sane enough to realize what he has been calling attention to all along rather than saying the same old stupid line" be grateful cuz its free"! If it wasnt for him no one would b mentioning this issue, not cuz they don care but cuz they dont have any perspective of it! Duh

    Mai February 23, 2021 3:26 pm
    Wtf is wrong with you? You know that stamp is a watermark which is always seen on the illegal korean websites like toonkor/newtoki. That person translating chapter 2 basically got the raws from there, the water... TakusTaco

    Just cuz its a free illegal site n just cuz u say its ok doesnt mean its OK! U implying that the ones who r doing a great job n d the ones who arent r same? There's a reason y people standup 4 good work cuz they work REALLY hard 2 make one n then on taking down the bad ones too! N y would anyone wait for the official work when some1's already doing a pretty good job? There r people who like quality work, n there wasnt a single watermark in chap3?Y? Cuz they didnt upload just cuz they were bored!Y'all r the same people who r defending those crappy work,n y'@ll giving excuses that volunteering 4 free work excuse your sloppy work, at the same time askin them to reupload the first 2 chaps,cuz u want 2 see some decent work, shows how brainless u people r! Stop it, y'all hypocrites!

    Quicksilver February 23, 2021 5:57 pm
    masturbate??????? lmao. mommylongbeds

    LOL JK

    Quicksilver February 23, 2021 6:00 pm
    You two can tell yurselves you "owned" the guy, but he argued circles around you. He did'nt start it. He wasn't even talking to you tacytaco. He scored more than two logical arguments for every one of you tw... miki

    thank you for this very much.

    TakusTaco February 23, 2021 6:03 pm
    Just cuz its a free illegal site n just cuz u say its ok doesnt mean its OK! U implying that the ones who r doing a great job n d the ones who arent r same? There's a reason y people standup 4 good work cuz the... Mai

    Your horrible way of spelling and typing gives me a headache. I have already stated everything there was to say about this topic, I'm not gonna explain myself for the third time. It's funny how all of a sudden 2 people are popping up out of nowhere to defend the OP, the same OP who was complaining about "ganging up" when no one actually was. I've visited Miki's profile and saw that they've already been interacting with Quicksilver before. OP's comment must already be buried somewhere deep in the comment section of this webtoon and most people won't bother to scroll and click that far to read every single comment. + interesting thing is, that all Quicksilver, Miki and Mai have a similar way of talking. So Quicksilver basically either brought their friends to gang up now (lmao, that's what I call hypocrisy) or they have multiple accounts, which would be even more sad. I almost pity you. You must be happy and filled with utter satisfaction that I've given you attention again, glad to be such an important person in your life. I'll leave it now tho. This is my final word.

    miki February 23, 2021 6:51 pm

    Qdragon recommended this manhwa, so I've been reading it all along and following these comment thread from the start of your nastyass bitching for no reason. I already said that. His comment was on the first page! WTF? Nothing was buried. That's ludicrous. I didn't agree with you so I'm here dishonestly just because of that? I don't know who mai is or what she's saying I thought she was on your side so whose side is she on if not you? All that was her being in support of Q? lol That's delusional

    miki February 23, 2021 6:55 pm

    I agree with you on this: "Your horrible way of spelling and typing gives me a headache" me too. I couldn't make heads nor tails of it.

    Miara February 23, 2021 7:37 pm
    Just cuz its a free illegal site n just cuz u say its ok doesnt mean its OK! U implying that the ones who r doing a great job n d the ones who arent r same? There's a reason y people standup 4 good work cuz the... Mai

    I'll say the same thing I said to the topic owner.
    If it bothers you so much to the point you don't appreciate their efforts, cause yes you all bitching about the watermark but none of you did better so far. When any of you actually do a better job we can talk. Not everyone is skillful enough to remove watermarks from illegal rawrs, why are you all pressed when none of you actually worked on the chapters, easy to point fingers but getting up and doing it is another matter.

    Work on it, try doing better lol, what a damn joke you all are. so it's okay to be rude and wish bad on "whoever put the watermark" as long as it makes you feel better.

    "Why wait for the official when someone is doing a good job" the hypocrisy kills me. First you complain then you applaud, make up your mind.

    And please whoever confused me with Mai or "Maria" learn to read, how can you confuse two different people.

    Miara February 23, 2021 7:40 pm
    Your horrible way of spelling and typing gives me a headache. I have already stated everything there was to say about this topic, I'm not gonna explain myself for the third time. It's funny how all of a sudden ... TakusTaco

    Quicksilver had to get herself /himself back up I don't blame them and they even said we were ganging up, what a joke

    Mai February 23, 2021 8:25 pm
    Your horrible way of spelling and typing gives me a headache. I have already stated everything there was to say about this topic, I'm not gonna explain myself for the third time. It's funny how all of a sudden ... TakusTaco

    Lol im glad it gave u headaches as well! (≧∀≦) just like u n miara have the exact same way of talking, me n miki n mommylongbeds have 2. What u gota problem ! Lol. Ty for pitying n stay confused. Having multuple accounts is not hypocrisy .lol

    Mai February 23, 2021 8:35 pm
    I'll say the same thing I said to the topic owner.If it bothers you so much to the point you don't appreciate their efforts, cause yes you all bitching about the watermark but none of you did better so far. Whe... Miara

    I wasnt even talking to u oh well, u didnt have to write the same thing that whole cs has already said a million times, i never complaint about people who do a good job , n nonbody confused u ok, y r u even mentioning this to me! Yeah right! if ive to do something for free , ill just neglect people n do it cuz its free, the other person should b grategul .lol thats hilarious, it'd better not do it rather than with this attitude! U implying that people cant point out a mistake now. Duh your damn joke!

    Mai February 23, 2021 9:18 pm
    Quicksilver had to get herself /himself back up I don't blame them and they even said we were ganging up, what a joke Miara

    Lol Y does he need a backup!? He alone was enough for both of you ! Fyi I read his comments n if i feel like, i butt in all i want! So dont rack your brain or u might get a headache too. Lol

    Miara February 23, 2021 9:43 pm
    Lol im glad it gave u headaches as well! (≧∀≦) just like u n miara have the exact same way of talking, me n miki n mommylongbeds have 2. What u gota problem ! Lol. Ty for pitying n stay confused. Having m... Mai

    You are missing a point, is not that we "talk" the same way, we just know how to spell correctly

    Anyway, I shall not give you anymore of my time this whole topic is stupid and I can't deal with the hypocrisy of all of you. Poor Taco for trying to knock some sense into some of you. Wasted time.

    miki February 23, 2021 11:33 pm
    Lol Y does he need a backup!? He alone was enough for both of you ! Fyi I read his comments n if i feel like, i butt in all i want! So dont rack your brain or u might get a headache too. Lol Mai

    du u no how hard it iz to read your p@st$?

    miki February 23, 2021 11:47 pm
    Quicksilver had to get herself /himself back up I don't blame them and they even said we were ganging up, what a joke Miara

    you really are a horrible person. You know he's a guy. They is not the right pronoun. I could have you arrested. lmao

    Mai February 24, 2021 1:51 am
    You are missing a point, is not that we "talk" the same way, we just know how to spell correctly Anyway, I shall not give you anymore of my time this whole topic is stupid and I can't deal with the hypocrisy of... Miara

    Ok spelling teacher! U keep saying u wont give me time but u keep coming back , lol, so now the topic's stupid just cuz u realized that u were being stupid all along! Lol. n thnx for your time n consultation, ill take it cuz im grateful that its free ,on an illegal site ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Mai February 24, 2021 1:52 am
    du u no how hard it iz to read your p@st$? miki

    Pfft the harder the better! Headaches r the best when u give them to others! Lolol

    Quicksilver February 24, 2021 1:54 am
    I'll say the same thing I said to the topic owner.If it bothers you so much to the point you don't appreciate their efforts, cause yes you all bitching about the watermark but none of you did better so far. Whe... Miara

    Of course I can remove water marks, decensor, redraw. set type etc etc. WTF are you even asking?

    miki February 24, 2021 2:01 am
    Pfft the harder the better! Headaches r the best when u give them to others! Lolol Mai

    it's just inconsiderate when reading your shit is like walking on a rocky trail. You have to go real slow and step over boulders. You know English, right? You can at least make it so other people can read it. Also, maybe you could also try to make sense. I'm just telling you the truth. I still don't know what you've been talking about all this time, lady.

    Quicksilver February 24, 2021 3:12 am
    You are missing a point, is not that we "talk" the same way, we just know how to spell correctly Anyway, I shall not give you anymore of my time this whole topic is stupid and I can't deal with the hypocrisy of... Miara

    This is not about me "doing better." There's a consensus among the translation teams I know that you don't put your stamps and sigs over the artist's characters, not their bodies, faces, dialogue, gorgeous scenery, or any part of the story that interferes with the artist's book. If you do, you're going to catch hell from one of us on the other side of the ocean, and one of us is might even remove those stamps that disfigure the artist's story and characters. I've removed such stamps and sigs, and you'd never know they were there to begin with. It's done, and they deserve that and more. You guys think they never see anything on this site. you're naive. Even if they don't it's worth it to protest their awful, stupid, insulting, in bad taste behavior against the very artists whose work they are presenting, and it benefits the readers here.

    Quicksilver February 24, 2021 3:30 am

    Also, I just now locked my art book so only i can see it.

    miki February 24, 2021 6:54 am
    Also, I just now locked my art book so only i can see it. Quicksilver

    I knew that was going to happen.

    miki February 24, 2021 7:05 am
    You are missing a point, is not that we "talk" the same way, we just know how to spell correctly Anyway, I shall not give you anymore of my time this whole topic is stupid and I can't deal with the hypocrisy of... Miara

    this is silly. you two never talked to each other b4 this post. you gotta suck on taco's tit so you feel like you've got a friend.

    miki February 24, 2021 7:35 am

    And lil miss microaggression Lmao TakoTwatly was "explaining the way things are" to a monster like Q. is ludicrous. LOL too funny

    miki February 24, 2021 7:38 am

    Taco and mairao need to buzz off now, and just leave it alone. Don't put up any more of your inane bs here. Drop it. You got that, girls?

    Mai February 24, 2021 4:20 pm
    it's just inconsiderate when reading your shit is like walking on a rocky trail. You have to go real slow and step over boulders. You know English, right? You can at least make it so other people can read it... miki

    LOL this totally sounds like a free English class! at least u sound better than mean teacher Miara, who thinks that u have poor writing skills if u dont have time to recheck your spellings! lol. Sorry teach, my bad, i was in a bit hurry, i couldnt recheck and correct my spellings after posting like that spelling specialist Miara. Ty for keeping up with my poor scribbling skills! Lol

    Mai February 24, 2021 4:24 pm
    This is not about me "doing better." There's a consensus among the translation teams I know that you don't put your stamps and sigs over the artist's characters, not their bodies, faces, dialogue, gorgeous sce... Quicksilver

    They should be embarrased ! They all talk high n mighty but in reality they are a bunch of hypocrites! I bet they dont have the courage to confront u after all this!

    Mai February 24, 2021 4:25 pm
    Also, I just now locked my art book so only i can see it. Quicksilver

    Wait what??! NO!

    Quicksilver February 24, 2021 4:30 pm
    Taco and mairao need to buzz off now, and just leave it alone. Don't put up any more of your inane bs here. Drop it. You got that, girls? miki

    LOL. One of them was smart enough to reason her way through things. that was tako. LOL Tako went from if this then that and this happens and this and this and this and that's how it is, stupid. LOL. but then she lets inferior maria drag her into a pseudo temporary family situation. LOLOLOL I hate aggregator types. They're always dragging cuz they can't stand on their own even for a few minutes. Mommylonglegs was the one who turned out to be smart, able to think independently and even rethink, and be kind. That's rare. The ability to say it is rare.

    miki February 24, 2021 5:14 pm

    I'm right here on you, Q. The more egalitarian a society, the less alike the opposites become. less. So these assholes r gonna clan-up on you every time. Oh I see that Mai is too good to spellcheck. LOL At least she's nice. to Q lmao I hear she's a doctor. can't be. LOL JK, Mai. but since I already pissed on Q, he's now mine. lmao. so if you ask me nice, I'll make him reopen his book. LOL She's gonna kill me. lmao

    Mai March 1, 2021 2:51 pm
    I'm right here on you, Q. The more egalitarian a society, the less alike the opposites become. less. So these assholes r gonna clan-up on you every time. Oh I see that Mai is too good to spellcheck. LOL At... miki

    LOL. Well i am nice to his friends too. Didn' t you notice ?? Lol
    So.....Sir Miki, will you please ask your friend to kindly unlock their book so that i can catch a few glimpses of Gareth and MiAngelus?
    LOL! Is this nice enough?I hope i spelled them right! (≧∀≦)

    miki March 6, 2021 1:26 am
    LOL. Well i am nice to his friends too. Didn' t you notice ?? LolSo.....Sir Miki, will you please ask your friend to kindly unlock their book so that i can catch a few glimpses of Gareth and MiAngelus?LOL! Is ... Mai

    I'll just beat his head in

Quicksilver February 20, 2021 2:36 am

This is the best "first time" story I've ever seen. You have one guy, the seme, who is highly skilled at lovemaking, and you have the other guy who needs the gentle guidance that skilled guy can provide. Everyone should be so lucky as to have their first time be like this.
not to mention it makes for a really great read

Quicksilver February 19, 2021 6:24 pm

I hate women. no sense of humor. constantly squawking about rape. can't take a joke. don't have the same taste as me in porn....

    nanabear February 19, 2021 7:06 pm

    UMM WTF DID I J READ SEEK HELP IF U ARENT SOMEHOW JOKING

    Quicksilver February 19, 2021 7:13 pm
    UMM WTF DID I J READ SEEK HELP IF U ARENT SOMEHOW JOKING nanabear

    What the h does "seek help" mean? Are you bashing ppl with mental illness?

    Shregsfatash1894 February 19, 2021 8:37 pm
    What the h does "seek help" mean? Are you bashing ppl with mental illness? Quicksilver

    NO I AGREE PLEASE SEEK HELP LUV THIS HAS TO BE A JOKE

    Quicksilver February 20, 2021 12:00 am
    NO I AGREE PLEASE SEEK HELP LUV THIS HAS TO BE A JOKE Shregsfatash1894

    of course it's a joke. duh

    Quicksilver February 20, 2021 12:24 am

    Stop Lady-Shaming. That comment was a belated Valentine's Day gift for the women here who love it when I say shlt like that. It provides a safe space where they can ventilate their rage over white male privileged supremacy. Are you gonna make them feel bad about it? huh?

    Shregsfatash1894 February 20, 2021 1:10 am
    of course it's a joke. duh Quicksilver

    omg thankyou my bad I'm stupid, your comment scared me for a moment

    Quicksilver February 20, 2021 2:05 am
    omg thankyou my bad I'm stupid, your comment scared me for a moment Shregsfatash1894

    I do hate women sometimes so you're not stupid. I think we all sometimes hate the opposite sex, but, you know, we all gotta work on that shlt. lol. and really, I just like to stir up shlt. That's my my bad.
    But I've got to ask, what scared you for a moment?

    Quicksilver February 20, 2021 2:18 am
    omg thankyou my bad I'm stupid, your comment scared me for a moment Shregsfatash1894

    I do hate the way the women around here are all supportive of people who like to read S&M, and you'd better not mock that shlt cuz that's kink-shaming and kink shamers are bad people(LOL), but if you sort of like to read stuff about one guy getting a little pushy and dominant over some other guy, that's rape and you'd better not enjoy that because it's disgusting, and you're disgusting, you need psychiatric help, you're a rapist yourself, you should be dead in a ditch or knifed in the throat. All of these things have been said to me. I don't even care that much about rape (lol) I just want to read something hot, but I'll be damned if I'll join a bunch of hypocrites who support one kink and out of the other side of their mouths shame the shit out of someone else's kink.

    Mai February 20, 2021 2:40 am
    I do hate the way the women around here are all supportive of people who like to read S&M, and you'd better not mock that shlt cuz that's kink-shaming and kink shamers are bad people(LOL), but if you sort o... Quicksilver

    THISSSSS!! U have my respect! ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

    Mai February 20, 2021 2:41 am
    Stop Lady-Shaming. That comment was a belated Valentine's Day gift for the women here who love it when I say shlt like that. It provides a safe space where they can ventilate their rage over white male privil... Quicksilver

    Hahahaha i felt bad for a moment! Lol

    Quicksilver February 20, 2021 4:26 am
    THISSSSS!! U have my respect! ლ(´ڡ`ლ) Mai

    there's Mai-Chan!

    Quicksilver February 20, 2021 4:43 am
    Hahahaha i felt bad for a moment! Lol Mai

    no cuz it'a your valentine gift, ms. mai. LOL I'll say more bad shit just for you. LOL.

    уυмєкσ <3 February 20, 2021 9:12 am

    tf? did i just read that correctly?

    Shregsfatash1894 February 20, 2021 9:51 am
    I do hate the way the women around here are all supportive of people who like to read S&M, and you'd better not mock that shlt cuz that's kink-shaming and kink shamers are bad people(LOL), but if you sort o... Quicksilver

    I AGREE WITH DIS ONE TURN IT UP

    YaoiHoe February 20, 2021 2:32 pm
    What the h does "seek help" mean? Are you bashing ppl with mental illness? Quicksilver

    this is the funniest thing I've read all day, thx for the laughs

    Quicksilver February 20, 2021 6:57 pm
    tf? did i just read that correctly? уυмєкσ <3

    yes....? LOL

    nanabear February 21, 2021 3:22 am
    What the h does "seek help" mean? Are you bashing ppl with mental illness? Quicksilver

    calm yourself i’m not bashing anyone

    Quicksilver February 21, 2021 4:35 am
    calm yourself i’m not bashing anyone nanabear

    Saying "seek help" is condescending and hints that the target of the remark is mentally ill. Now. I didn't have to inform you of this. You already knew exactly what you were saying, which also makes you a liar. When I add in the rudeness of "calm yourself," which implies that the target of the remark is not calm but in some sort of needless hysterical state of over something you said. You know that's not the case, so you saying it means you like to say rude shlt like that. You basically suck.

    Mai February 21, 2021 4:36 am
    no cuz it'a your valentine gift, ms. mai. LOL I'll say more bad shit just for you. LOL. Quicksilver

    Hahaha TY , i'll gladly accept it! LOL

    Quicksilver February 21, 2021 4:42 am
    this is the funniest thing I've read all day, thx for the laughs YaoiHoe

    YW Yaoihoe-chan. Is chan appropriate or do you hate it? I like chan. It's lyrical and, I admit it, it sounds sort of cute and endearing, but I don't want anyone chan-shaming me so I must ask.

    Quicksilver February 21, 2021 4:44 am
    I AGREE WITH DIS ONE TURN IT UP Shregsfatash1894

    See! I knew Shregsfatash1894 was cool. (what's this name mean!)

    Mai February 21, 2021 4:47 am

    Y y'all so pissed?! Y'all keep hating on every 2d and 3d men on this site, non stop, supporting one another over it, but when he said it, u be like "WT*"?

    nanabear February 21, 2021 7:40 am
    Saying "seek help" is condescending and hints that the target of the remark is mentally ill. Now. I didn't have to inform you of this. You already knew exactly what you were saying, which also makes you a li... Quicksilver

    bitch shut ur ass up the fact that u commented saying u hated women and called it a joke is beyond hypocritical of u just do us all a favor and shut ur butch ass up and seek help on the way

    Quicksilver February 21, 2021 2:10 pm
    bitch shut ur ass up the fact that u commented saying u hated women and called it a joke is beyond hypocritical of u just do us all a favor and shut ur butch ass up and seek help on the way nanabear

    oh my. This is not the way a nanabear should speak. no no nanabearo A nanabear should talk like a goo goo precious little child would. nana papa poo poo mama dada. Bad nana. I think lil nanabear is saying she wants Quicksilver to do her a favor, but not when she's being a bad bananabear.

    nanabear February 21, 2021 7:31 pm
    oh my. This is not the way a nanabear should speak. no no nanabearo A nanabear should talk like a goo goo precious little child would. nana papa poo poo mama dada. Bad nana. I think lil nanabear is saying ... Quicksilver

    ok bye i can’t

    Quicksilver February 21, 2021 8:41 pm
    ok bye i can’t nanabear

    I agree

    Okami07 February 26, 2021 12:12 am
    Saying "seek help" is condescending and hints that the target of the remark is mentally ill. Now. I didn't have to inform you of this. You already knew exactly what you were saying, which also makes you a li... Quicksilver

    The biggest joke is that a rape apologist who enjoys making sexist jokes think that a little bit of condescending tone is bad and rude, and can’t bear it. You expect people to accept the shits you say (and think they are snowflakes if they can’t) but you react to a mere “seek help”? I see you are a “do as I say not as I do” kind of person

    Quicksilver February 26, 2021 1:18 am
    The biggest joke is that a rape apologist who enjoys making sexist jokes think that a little bit of condescending tone is bad and rude, and can’t bear it. You expect people to accept the shits you say (and th... Okami07

    "seek help" is equivalent to racist or sexist phrases and carries the same underlying contempt and condescension. The phrase and those like it seek to cancel someone's validity as a rational human being in order to silence them. I'm sick of it. In this forum it's constant use means it's time to speak up against it. so fuck you.

    Quicksilver February 26, 2021 1:25 am
    The biggest joke is that a rape apologist who enjoys making sexist jokes think that a little bit of condescending tone is bad and rude, and can’t bear it. You expect people to accept the shits you say (and th... Okami07

    It's called sanism, and is the most pernicious of oppressive language.

    Okami07 February 26, 2021 1:49 am
    It's called sanism, and is the most pernicious of oppressive language. Quicksilver

    Ok? Cool. But that’s not what I am saying: what’s funny is that you don’t mind making sexist jokes and rape apologist statements, but get offended by sanism. You should take all form of oppression and offensive languages seriously but instead you only do when YOU are targeted.

    Quicksilver February 26, 2021 3:00 am
    Ok? Cool. But that’s not what I am saying: what’s funny is that you don’t mind making sexist jokes and rape apologist statements, but get offended by sanism. You should take all form of oppression and off... Okami07

    You have your concerns. I have mine. I don't have to care about all forms of oppression, only a few
    I find the constant bitching about rape in fictional stories oppressive. I'm a rape apologist for the rapists in yaoi stories and for the right of the artists to draw them. I'm not bound by any inner stricture requiring me to refrain from making jokes if I want. I don't feel guilty, and I don't care about the feelings of people who don't like it. I don't care if someone gets triggered or offended. I can't imagine why anyone would expect me to be responsible for their personal feelings.
    I'll fight for anyone's right to say anything they want even if I find it offensive. To me, offensive language is being confronted about idiotic shlt I'm not guilty of, but I'll fight for your right to confront me if you want.
    I care about me being targeted, and I'm not here defend widows and orphans..... unless I like them and they need my help and ask for it. Most of the widows and orphans I know, however, are capable of defending themselves.

    Okami07 February 26, 2021 4:52 am
    You have your concerns. I have mine. I don't have to care about all forms of oppression, only a fewI find the constant bitching about rape in fictional stories oppressive. I'm a rape apologist for the rapist... Quicksilver

    You keep showing your contradictions, it’s so obvious that it makes no sense you don’t see them:
    “I'll fight for anyone's right to say anything they want even if I find it offensive”
    But then...”I care about me being targeted”

    Btw, why bother having a moral (about comments who should or should not be said, like the sanist one) if you only care about yourself and don’t follow your own principles? Moral and ethic by definition concern everyone

    Quicksilver February 26, 2021 6:56 am
    You keep showing your contradictions, it’s so obvious that it makes no sense you don’t see them:“I'll fight for anyone's right to say anything they want even if I find it offensive”But then...”I care ... Okami07

    no. my morals are mine alone, unlike other people's, and guided by my conscience. Trust me, I'm a highly moral person.
    Even if in your opinion the things I say are contradictory, they can still coexist. Anyway, there's no contradiction. the first part is my outlook on civil rights. I'm a freedom of speech absolutist.

    I care about me being targeted. that's not unreasonable. Many people think we have a moral obligation to agree with other people's feelings. I don't, and I find that view immature.

    ethics is slightly different and kind of irrelevant. has to do with business and professional practices in general and also principles. That doesn't quite cover it, but morals is the better word for this discussion

    kurotoki February 26, 2021 3:58 pm
    I do hate the way the women around here are all supportive of people who like to read S&M, and you'd better not mock that shlt cuz that's kink-shaming and kink shamers are bad people(LOL), but if you sort o... Quicksilver

    omg i couldn’t agree more. ppl be preaching to you about morals once they find out your kink is something the majority view wrong, while ignoring the fact that theirs also isn’t but is somehow deemed less obscene and therefore better than yours. like, leave me alone damn hypocrites. srsly.

    Quicksilver February 26, 2021 5:01 pm
    omg i couldn’t agree more. ppl be preaching to you about morals once they find out your kink is something the majority view wrong, while ignoring the fact that theirs also isn’t but is somehow deemed less o... kurotoki

    LOL, kurotoki, IKR?

    Quicksilver February 26, 2021 5:09 pm

    I meant, "I don't care about all forms of oppression, only a few" not: "I don't have to care about all forms of oppression, only the ones I care about. If I don't agree that something is oppressive, I don't agree."

    miki February 27, 2021 2:00 am
    I meant, "I don't care about all forms of oppression, only a few" not: "I don't have to care about all forms of oppression, only the ones I care about. If I don't agree that something is oppressive, I don't a... Quicksilver

    you wrote it wrong again, Q. lmao

    nanabear February 27, 2021 3:11 am
    You have your concerns. I have mine. I don't have to care about all forms of oppression, only a fewI find the constant bitching about rape in fictional stories oppressive. I'm a rape apologist for the rapist... Quicksilver

    bitch i’ll say it again SEEK HELP cus by the looks of it u rlly need it

    Quicksilver February 27, 2021 4:05 am
    bitch i’ll say it again SEEK HELP cus by the looks of it u rlly need it nanabear

    "seek help" is sanism, and is equivalent to racism. Your persistant use of that phrase is the same as a racial slur. You seek to lower my self-esteem to a level where I'll be vulnerable enough to fall for your bigotry. You suck

    Quicksilver February 27, 2021 4:06 am
    bitch i’ll say it again SEEK HELP cus by the looks of it u rlly need it nanabear

    "bitch" is not my preferred pronoun. LMAO

    nanabear February 27, 2021 4:45 am
    "bitch" is not my preferred pronoun. LMAO Quicksilver

    it’s the best pronoun you’ll get so deal with it

    nanabear February 27, 2021 4:46 am
    "seek help" is sanism, and is equivalent to racism. Your persistant use of that phrase is the same as a racial slur. You seek to lower my self-esteem to a level where I'll be vulnerable enough to fall for you... Quicksilver

    i’m not gonna argue with u cus u do this on purpose but i feel good knowing that ur an ugly loser who has no life

    Quicksilver February 27, 2021 2:30 pm
    it’s the best pronoun you’ll get so deal with it nanabear

    no, I don't think so since I'm not a dog or a female

    Quicksilver February 27, 2021 2:31 pm
    i’m not gonna argue with u cus u do this on purpose but i feel good knowing that ur an ugly loser who has no life nanabear

    lmao, no, I'm quite dashing. haha you lose

    miki February 27, 2021 4:12 pm
    lmao, no, I'm quite dashing. haha you lose Quicksilver

    LOL Q. If you know it, it turns your ass ugly. waaahaha

    Mai March 1, 2021 3:28 pm

    LOL i thought this was about women! How did this end up in QS's looks!?? Hahaha

    Quicksilver March 1, 2021 3:35 pm

    look up at the top of your browser at the tab. It says "I hate women" LOL

    Quicksilver March 1, 2021 3:36 pm

    for miki that's right next to the tag that says "beastiality" LMAO

    Quicksilver March 1, 2021 3:38 pm

    My next tab over says "God Only Knows" and then "I Hate Women" lmao

    Quicksilver March 1, 2021 3:41 pm

    Have you seen that? God Only Knows vid? You've got to see this. BBC's production. It's not new, but it's fukin great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqLTe8h0-jo&ab_channel=BBCMusic

    Mai March 1, 2021 3:45 pm
    look up at the top of your browser at the tab. It says "I hate women" LOL Quicksilver

    Lol Who are you replying to ?

    Mai March 1, 2021 3:46 pm
    Have you seen that? God Only Knows vid? You've got to see this. BBC's production. It's not new, but it's fukin great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqLTe8h0-jo&ab_channel=BBCMusic Quicksilver

    Is this a song?? Lemme check it!

    Quicksilver March 1, 2021 3:59 pm
    Lol Who are you replying to ? Mai

    I'm talking to you, cutie.

    Mai March 1, 2021 4:02 pm
    Have you seen that? God Only Knows vid? You've got to see this. BBC's production. It's not new, but it's fukin great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqLTe8h0-jo&ab_channel=BBCMusic Quicksilver

    Why am i discovering this now? Lol I thought i saw Dave Grohl and then i read that it WAS Dave Grohl. Lol brings back some old memories...

    Mai March 1, 2021 4:03 pm
    I'm talking to you, cutie. Quicksilver

    WHATTT! Cutie??! Hahaha

    Quicksilver March 1, 2021 4:03 pm
    Lol Who are you replying to ? Mai

    I was reading some of your comments, Mai-Chan, you're funny as hell. I wasn't even appreciative enough

    Mai March 1, 2021 4:05 pm
    I was reading some of your comments, Mai-Chan, you're funny as hell. I wasn't even appreciative enough Quicksilver

    Lol what comments?!

    miki March 1, 2021 4:59 pm

    you said ECT

    miki March 1, 2021 5:03 pm

    AND why are you hanging around Q? hmm? What do you mean by that? Are you trying to get me jealous? Is that it? Cuz I'll bust you one, little girlie. spellings gonna be the least of you're problems. Dont mess with me.

    miki March 1, 2021 5:04 pm

    Mai, I mean Mai is who I mean with all that accusatories.

    miki March 1, 2021 5:07 pm

    Who is Dave Groll, Chan? what comments? He means only the ones on this thread. lmao

    miki March 1, 2021 5:09 pm

    You know I'm joking, righ? Mrs Radical Sensitivity Training? Q said I have 2B nice. Right. like he's nice to me. lolol

    Mai March 1, 2021 5:22 pm
    AND why are you hanging around Q? hmm? What do you mean by that? Are you trying to get me jealous? Is that it? Cuz I'll bust you one, little girlie. spellings gonna be the least of you're problems. Dont ... miki

    Hahaha I think i just found your weakness! Do u even realize that i can actually use it against you?! Bingo!

    Mai March 1, 2021 5:24 pm
    Who is Dave Groll, Chan? what comments? He means only the ones on this thread. lmao miki

    What? dont tell me you dont know Kurt Cobain!

    Mai March 1, 2021 5:27 pm
    You know I'm joking, righ? Mrs Radical Sensitivity Training? Q said I have 2B nice. Right. like he's nice to me. lolol miki

    LOL i know you are joking, teach! Lol that 2B! (≧∀≦)

    miki March 1, 2021 8:19 pm

    I know who Kurt Kobain is.

    miki March 1, 2021 8:22 pm

    Was I supposed to have encyclopedic knowledge? you've gotta say professor

    miki March 1, 2021 8:26 pm

    lol cutie. he meant to say kewpie

    miki March 1, 2021 8:28 pm

    omg make sense. are you saying kurt kobain was in that video of God Only Knows? You've got to work on your communication skills. no way was a dead guy in the god only knows video

    Mai March 3, 2021 3:07 am
    lol cutie. he meant to say kewpie miki

    <(  ̄△ ̄)_ Okay, Mr. Possessive!.....Anything else?

    Mai March 3, 2021 3:10 am
    omg make sense. are you saying kurt kobain was in that video of God Only Knows? You've got to work on your communication skills. no way was a dead guy in the god only knows video miki

    LOL. Sorry, i thought if you knew Kurt Cobain then you would know Dave Grohl as well. Wait, lemme count! First comprehension skills, then typing skills and now communication skills..NO WAY! That's a lot of homework!!ヽ(⊙…⊙ )ノ

    Quicksilver March 3, 2021 3:20 am
    LOL. Sorry, i thought if you knew Kurt Cobain then you would know Dave Grohl as well. Wait, lemme count! First comprehension skills, then typing skills and now communication skills..NO WAY! That's a lot of home... Mai

    Damnation. I want to know too. What are you talking about w this dave grol kurt stuff. explain. NOW. stop fcking with us

    Quicksilver March 3, 2021 3:22 am
    LOL i know you are joking, teach! Lol that 2B! (≧∀≦) Mai

    2B means what? I'm losing patience. if you're not talking to yourself alone, you should let others know wtf

    Mai March 3, 2021 6:11 pm
    Damnation. I want to know too. What are you talking about w this dave grol kurt stuff. explain. NOW. stop fcking with us Quicksilver

    LOL. I was wondering where did you vanish to after broaching the subject. And about 2B , you have to ask that Mr. Nice guy up there, cuz im curious too! ┑( ̄Д  ̄)_

    miki March 3, 2021 6:49 pm

    Taking 2B out of context caused confusion, which you refused to clear up for either of us. Neither of us have gotten answers to obtuse statements made by you. I'm starting to think I should interpret it all to be hostile toward both of us

    Mai March 3, 2021 6:58 pm
    Taking 2B out of context caused confusion, which you refused to clear up for either of us. Neither of us have gotten answers to obtuse statements made by you. I'm starting to think I should interpret it all t... miki

    I just found that 2B funny. That's why i mentioned it. It just reminds me of how i use these words..but If you have any uncleared misunderstandings, ask away.

    miki March 4, 2021 5:16 pm

    Say what you will, the Q comment sparked a lot of fun "discussion" lmao

    ×junkyu supremacy× March 6, 2021 10:52 am

    Bruh you starting a fight?

    ... June 4, 2021 10:03 pm
    I do hate the way the women around here are all supportive of people who like to read S&M, and you'd better not mock that shlt cuz that's kink-shaming and kink shamers are bad people(LOL), but if you sort o... Quicksilver

    hello??? are you saying r@pe is your kink??
    ''but I'll be damned if I'll join a bunch of hypocrites who support one kink and out of the other side of their mouths shame the shit out of someone else's kink'' your words what kind of brain damage did you get to think of rape as a kink
    first of all are you okay? second mf S&M it's very different from r@pe, it has consent, safe words and aftercare its just a google search away, r@pe on the other hand is smth done by someone who doesn't care what happened to the person getting ... as long as the r@pist is enjoying them-self if that's what you're into then you need help

    Quicksilver June 4, 2021 10:46 pm
    hello??? are you saying r@pe is your kink??''but I'll be damned if I'll join a bunch of hypocrites who support one kink and out of the other side of their mouths shame the shit out of someone else's kink'' your... ...

    Who's going to say they rape RL people for a hobby cuz it's their kink? On a public forum? WTF how dare you ask me that. How many gay men do you know who skulk down dank alleys looking for women to rape? Where are your manners?
    No, you're wrong about rape. Reading about rape is just as valid as reading about S&M. If a couple wants to do a play rape fantasy, it's none of your damned business anymore than you have a right to judge a couple who like S&M play. WTF? It should go without saying that what is said here relates to the topics involved in this genre. Develop some ethics when you deal with people in a cs inside a genre.

    ... June 5, 2021 10:44 am
    Who's going to say they rape RL people for a hobby cuz it's their kink? On a public forum? WTF how dare you ask me that. How many gay men do you know who skulk down dank alleys looking for women to rape? W... Quicksilver

    who said anything about ''gay man skulking down dank alleys to look for women to rape''? you just made that out yourself you do know that women are not the only people who get raped right? sad reality. I'm not saying that reading about rape is ''not valid'' if it's part of a story and if it's to develop a plot then sure yea but not romanticized to a point where you're making other people feel unsafe. I get what you're saying if 'rape rp/fantasy' is your thing go for it i'm not judging you, but you and your partner/partners need to both give consent before it starts and then you can act out your fantasies otherwise it's not a rape rp it's real f#cking rape

    Quicksilver June 5, 2021 5:35 pm
    who said anything about ''gay man skulking down dank alleys to look for women to rape''? you just made that out yourself you do know that women are not the only people who get raped right? sad reality. I'm not ... ...

    thanks for making an obvious point.
    If you're too emotionally unstable to handle a soft plot element that helps avoid exposition in a yaoi story, you stay away from that which makes you uncomfortable. The victim themselves has that choice, not you as their guardian who can't mind their own business. I'm being rude to you because you don't know it but you're being rude to me first, for one thing, by preaching to me about my personal life.
    Consent does not have to be ploddingly talked through in mood spoiling verbage between two people in a committed relationship who already planned to do the fantasy for chrissakes! Wtf with your "beforehand." Take care of your own relationship. Stay out of consenting adult's bedrooms. Who are you to intrude on mine and my partner's relationship with your didactic rules that are straight out of a book and not your own thought-through ideas?

    Quicksilver June 5, 2021 5:40 pm

    also, rape fantasy is not our preference in our sex life We've never done it, not that that's any of your business.

    Quicksilver June 5, 2021 8:12 pm
    Hahaha TY , i'll gladly accept it! LOL Mai

    Mai-chan, where you? talk to me, doc

    ... June 5, 2021 10:44 pm
    thanks for making an obvious point. If you're too emotionally unstable to handle a soft plot element that helps avoid exposition in a yaoi story, you stay away from that which makes you uncomfortable. The vict... Quicksilver

    dude idc what goes on your relationship as you say but you still need consent even if you are in a committed relationship. They are not straight out of a book as someone who has experience being in a not healthy relationship and being used for ones own pleasure i speak from my mind i don't really give any fucks if it ruins the mood you can make a list a day before or smth like that idk but consent needs to be given unless you've been with that partner for a long time and actually trust one each other. Didn't ask if you've ever acted out that fantasy and i didn't need to know and about the victim and guardian thing? i don't really understand that part anyways i will not continue and sit here to argue with someone i have never met before if you enjoy what you're doing AND not hurting yourself or others go for it i don't care

    Quicksilver June 6, 2021 6:23 am
    dude idc what goes on your relationship as you say but you still need consent even if you are in a committed relationship. They are not straight out of a book as someone who has experience being in a not health... ...

    are you dense? I don't owe you any explanations!! Do you get that it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!! Do you know how nasty if feels to have some stranger talk down to you how to run your sex life? It's disgusting. It's gross. It's invasive. It's abusive the way you're handling this. . It feels like violation. You cannot be this unaware of other people's right to privacy, which comes above your pompous egotistical sex instructor attitude.
    You're inappropriate and have no right. I do not care about your relationships. Do not speak to people with all your layers of condescension. you are so rude. stop this. I'm saying no. learn what no means

    ... June 6, 2021 11:57 am
    are you dense? I don't owe you any explanations!! Do you get that it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!! Do you know how nasty if feels to have some stranger talk down to you how to run your sex life? It's disgusti... Quicksilver

    ironic to read you say ''learn what no means'' with your ''fantasies'' i didn't ask for explanations you brought a point which had nothing to do about the topic we were talking on and now you want to act like I'm violating you? Grow up I'm talking to you about rules that differs real rape from roleplay. Learn what is okay and whats not for fucks sake do us all a favor and keep your opinions to yourself as you said no one needs to know what goes on in your sex life. Of course i will talk down on your sex life if your it consists of non consent sex alright! I have been talking very nicely to you explaining something, you are the one who's being rude. goodbye

    Quicksilver June 6, 2021 12:05 pm
    ironic to read you say ''learn what no means'' with your ''fantasies'' i didn't ask for explanations you brought a point which had nothing to do about the topic we were talking on and now you want to act like I... ...

    your half baked rules are sick and you don't even know it. I don't believe in your stupid consent rules. that you don't see them for the stupid illogical bullshit that doesn't make sense or fit with rl, you need to think very very hard about it. you have no right to talk down to me about anything. I'll run my life as I see fit by my own morals. you can't even see that you're trying to dictate to other people what they should do in private. you will not get far in life that way.

    Quicksilver June 6, 2021 12:07 pm

    what the fuck fantasies are u on about? you don't know my fantasies. you only know what you read here and you misinterpret everything

    ... June 6, 2021 12:12 pm
    your half baked rules are sick and you don't even know it. I don't believe in your stupid consent rules. that you don't see them for the stupid illogical bullshit that doesn't make sense or fit with rl, you n... Quicksilver

    YOUR MORALS ARE TO RAPE YOU EVEN SAID IT YOURSELF YOU HAVE RAPE AS A KINK. Now imagine telling that to someone who has suffered that horrible thing that has ruined their childhood, their life THEIR OWN MORALS please think before you say something stupid on the internet, you're not the only person who sees it and you have no control over who sees it a

    ... June 6, 2021 12:12 pm
    what the fuck fantasies are u on about? you don't know my fantasies. you only know what you read here and you misinterpret everything Quicksilver

    you fucking said it yourself

    ... June 6, 2021 12:15 pm

    my god have fun with your morals don't worry about how far i will go in life think about yours first, since you're such a nice and smart person

    Quicksilver June 6, 2021 12:15 pm
    Hahaha TY , i'll gladly accept it! LOL Mai

    frick nanabear failed to understand my just butting her around for fun. sum mature lady would laugh like hell at that string of unreasonable accusations. now she's all mad. I hate humorless women. bahahahahahahahaha

    Mai June 6, 2021 12:19 pm

    Wth is going on here !!?

    ... June 6, 2021 12:20 pm
    Wth is going on here !!? Mai

    at this point no one knows :/

    Mai June 6, 2021 12:21 pm
    at this point no one knows :/ ...

    Bruh the op's comment was a JOKE ! Dont people understand jokes??

    ... June 6, 2021 12:22 pm
    Bruh the op's comment was a JOKE ! Dont people understand jokes?? Mai

    we're past the joke point this mf said they had rape as their kink

    Mai June 6, 2021 12:23 pm
    we're past the joke point this mf said they had rape as their kink ...

    NOT A REAL LIFE RAPE for gods sake

    ... June 6, 2021 12:25 pm
    NOT A REAL LIFE RAPE for gods sake Mai

    not the way they explain it and again WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD SAY THAT? couldn't they have WORDED BETTER fuck this I'm muting this topic i'll miss you two......no not really that was a lie

    Mai June 6, 2021 12:26 pm
    not the way they explain it and again WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD SAY THAT? couldn't they have WORDED BETTER fuck this I'm muting this topic i'll miss you two......no not really that was a lie ...

    Lmao thanks for missing me .

    Quicksilver June 6, 2021 12:34 pm

    that's a lie. man a total lie

    Quicksilver June 6, 2021 12:37 pm

    I told this asshole to stop giving sex instructions to her elders. she keeps on with bullshit out of her sex ed class. idiot. Now she is lying? she's mad I said I don't act out rape fantasies in private? cuz I said I didn't. these people lie ouut the ass

    Quicksilver June 6, 2021 12:44 pm
    bitch shut ur ass up the fact that u commented saying u hated women and called it a joke is beyond hypocritical of u just do us all a favor and shut ur butch ass up and seek help on the way nanabear

    no, see, I only hate you

Quicksilver February 18, 2021 7:58 pm

Lost Virgin is a perfect example of the hypocrisy of those who vehemently protest against everything they consider rape. This story is sweet and sexy. The art is fabulous. Yet it has all the elements the sjw's call rape, and not a single one of them has ever said it was rape. In fact they can't stop raving about how cute and wonderful it is. The seme gets violent with the uke. The seme talks him into the sex. The uke says, "No, Stop, and Wait," several times. In the second sex scene the uke doesn't consent and protests against having sex.
It's a sweet pleasurable read. Everyone loves it. No one disapproves, and it's highly rated. It proves that as long as they like it, not one of you will call it rape. Deal with your own hypocrisy.

    Quicksilver February 18, 2021 8:38 pm

    Let me be clear. I love this story. I call it seduction, not rape. I'm just tired of the hypocrites always acting like attack dogs

    Queen69 March 3, 2021 10:09 am

    I haven't read this one and i scanned through the first one but i did see a piece of it.
    This is definitely rape. He was taking advantage of the fact that the uke was finding himself.

    Tbh because manga is fiction i personally dont mind. I usually ignore it.

    I think people should read the tags and warnings
    although unfortunately some dont have them but yeah i agree

    Quicksilver March 3, 2021 2:45 pm
    I haven't read this one and i scanned through the first one but i did see a piece of it. This is definitely rape. He was taking advantage of the fact that the uke was finding himself. Tbh because manga is fict... Queen69

    I was saying it's not rape

    Queen69 March 4, 2021 7:45 pm
    I was saying it's not rape Quicksilver

    Oh wtf lol. Anyways i just finished reading it and yeah i realized it wasnt lmaoo

    It doesnt sit right with me that the uke was drunk and not sure of himself yet but he didnt seem mad or anything about it so i dont midn

    Quicksilver March 5, 2021 3:34 am
    Oh wtf lol. Anyways i just finished reading it and yeah i realized it wasnt lmaooIt doesnt sit right with me that the uke was drunk and not sure of himself yet but he didnt seem mad or anything about it so i do... Queen69

    good story, too, right? lol I'm glad there are still some people who are willing to discuss something in a polite fashion. ty, maybe you are a queen.

    Queen69 March 5, 2021 9:02 am
    good story, too, right? lol I'm glad there are still some people who are willing to discuss something in a polite fashion. ty, maybe you are a queen. Quicksilver

    It was good i really enjoyed it
    And lol nah i just try to match people's vibes.

    Im pretty rude to people who are rude to me or others
    i usually try to be nice and understanding of others opinions

    JALLY March 5, 2021 4:33 pm

    If they think that, imagine them reading the first book

    Quicksilver March 5, 2021 7:28 pm
    If they think that, imagine them reading the first book JALLY

    if you're referring to me, I read the first one, Renai, when it first came out. I loved it. It was this author's first book, she poured her heart into it. It's a long, complicated story that must have taken her ages to work out. She even tries to have a theme. I can't believe the low attitudes of some of people.

    JALLY March 5, 2021 11:42 pm
    if you're referring to me, I read the first one, Renai, when it first came out. I loved it. It was this author's first book, she poured her heart into it. It's a long, complicated story that must have taken ... Quicksilver

    Ok so it being the author first work, we’re supposed to lie and say it’s good? We get that it’s her first work and she tried hard but she IMPROVED so much on her second that we can’t even think about the first one.

    Quicksilver March 5, 2021 11:53 pm
    Ok so it being the author first work, we’re supposed to lie and say it’s good? We get that it’s her first work and she tried hard but she IMPROVED so much on her second that we can’t even think about th... JALLY

    okay, philistine

    Quicksilver March 5, 2021 11:55 pm
    Ok so it being the author first work, we’re supposed to lie and say it’s good? We get that it’s her first work and she tried hard but she IMPROVED so much on her second that we can’t even think about th... JALLY

    and say whatever you want, but throttle back on giving any kind of hate to one of these authors. not cool

    JALLY March 6, 2021 12:19 am
    and say whatever you want, but throttle back on giving any kind of hate to one of these authors. not cool Quicksilver

    Now your responses are really not making any sense. I’ll say it again the first story is bad but second story is really good which i don’t see where I’m hating ON the author.

    Quicksilver March 6, 2021 12:32 am
    Now your responses are really not making any sense. I’ll say it again the first story is bad but second story is really good which i don’t see where I’m hating ON the author. JALLY

    okay, junior

    JALLY March 6, 2021 1:03 am
    okay, junior Quicksilver

    That’s all?

Quicksilver February 14, 2021 5:42 am

I love this story, and shiratori is one of my favorite characters

Quicksilver February 13, 2021 11:14 pm

I was hoping for some frog erotica

Quicksilver February 12, 2021 10:18 pm

Any rapist in any manga/manwha on this site would be a better choice of partner than Shiwon. I just hope that when you grow up and live through an encounter with a monster like Shiwon, you'll think back to this story when you thought Shiwon's behavior was love.
I really can't believe that so many women can be so naive.

    Fluffy_Mochi February 16, 2021 8:01 am

    So shiwon is the guy with the red hair right, cuz i dont believe the guy with silver hair ever raped the mc. He was very respectful. Correct me if i am wrong. I might have just missed an episode.

    The Misanthrope February 24, 2021 10:21 pm

    I think you guys mistook their names. Shiwon is the silver haired guy. Hyundo is the redhead kid. Shiwon is a gentle understanding guy. He was the one who didnt go all the way with mc cuz mc cried and he didnt dump mc even after hyundo fucked mc.The one tht threaten n raped mc is hyundo (when he just got together with his lover). I just find the ending of hyundo n mc abit lackluster. I just wish he beat up hyundo instead of forgiving him tht easily.

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 12:27 am
    I think you guys mistook their names. Shiwon is the silver haired guy. Hyundo is the redhead kid. Shiwon is a gentle understanding guy. He was the one who didnt go all the way with mc cuz mc cried and he didnt ... The Misanthrope

    nope. Hyundo is the good one. That rape was not part of the original script. It was when Aiju did an about face and let the fans write the rest of the story - right in the middle of the scene that was OBVIOUSLY supposed to be Ian and Hondo making up and patching things up between them. Aeju changed it when she needed to villify the sweet young beautiful Hondo. Jeez. Read what I said about the real villain of the story: Shiwon. It seems like someone named Misanthrope would hate asshole, shitwon.

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 12:29 am
    So shiwon is the guy with the red hair right, cuz i dont believe the guy with silver hair ever raped the mc. He was very respectful. Correct me if i am wrong. I might have just missed an episode. Fluffy_Mochi

    Okay. Just look at previous pages where I said what I thought - if you would be so kind as to do that. It sort of breaks my heart how so few people see through Shiwon.

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 12:30 am
    So shiwon is the guy with the red hair right, cuz i dont believe the guy with silver hair ever raped the mc. He was very respectful. Correct me if i am wrong. I might have just missed an episode. Fluffy_Mochi

    Shiwon has gray hair. Hondo has red hair, is young, beautiful, and doesn't do anything wrong.

    The Misanthrope February 25, 2021 9:06 am
    nope. Hyundo is the good one. That rape was not part of the original script. It was when Aiju did an about face and let the fans write the rest of the story - right in the middle of the scene that was OBVIOU... Quicksilver

    I sincerely do not understand to the point that I think we are reading a different story. I have no clue of the original script or how it was planned to go. But from what i read hyundo was very sweet until the point where he meet with his first love and they got together. But when he heard mc n shiwon got together. He became batshit jealous. From what i read i see no problem with shiwon other than he argue with mc a lot over little things. Its a love triangle. Ofc shiwon gonna fight with hyundo. It seems ur bias of hyundo and mc. To me it doesnt matter who gets together with who. But once u do a taboo its is an eye for an eye.

    P.S if you reply please tell me the section where shiwon is being a manipulative jerk. Misanthrope is just the dislike people generally. Zero bias. I do have exceptions who I'm okay with. Dont give me hate due to the name. Like dude i didnt even call hyundo a monster even when u call shiwon a monster.

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 9:50 am
    I sincerely do not understand to the point that I think we are reading a different story. I have no clue of the original script or how it was planned to go. But from what i read hyundo was very sweet until the ... The Misanthrope

    If you see no problem with Shiwon, I hope you never meet a Shiwon in real life.
    Here you go, these are excerpts. let me point out the obvious: Shiwon was the worst behaved character in the story. stalking, intruding on Ian and hondo's dates, contacting hondo out of Ian's presence, demanding marriage or "I'll never speak to you again" when he knew Ian had not yet had a chance to settle his feelings for Hondo, Putting Ian through the awful experience of ruthless ultimatums.
    Men like Shitwand never stop. That ultimatum marriage proposal was a dress rehearsal for the rest of the relationship. Ian will live from ultimatum to ultimatum with that shiwon freak. Anytime shitwon wants something, he will play that card "I'll never speak to you again if you....fill in the blank" if you go out with this or that friend from your college days, if you get that look on your face that says such and such, if you wear those tight pants, if you visit your mother who I don't like, if you won't pay 60% of the rent, if you won't cut ties with so and so, if you won't stop confiding in that bartender, if you won't quit your job, if you won't ...endless." That's the kind of ass you wanted Ian to be with.
    He will be following Ian in his car, waiting to appear in Ian's face no matter where Ian is. Ian will be looking over his shoulder from now on.
    There's your fluffy sh1t for a relationship
    Hondo didn't do anything bad. Calling him immature is everyone's one complaint. They're not able to give any other examples of his bad deeds because there aren't any. As opposed to shitwon, who was a villain.
    people raving about the change in the ending need to remember that Aeju didn't want the Ian/Shiwon ending. I don't understand why that's not important to you.

    The Misanthrope February 25, 2021 10:53 am

    Does it matter who the mc ends up with. Of the author planed to make hyundo n mc, well ok. Mc ended up with shiwon because the author got pressured. To be honest tht comes with the industry. People tend to be overly opinionated. Stories are written for readers. If there is no readers a story will be dropped. It's not as if I got involved in the pressuring of the author. My opinion comes from reading the finished result. Even if I say anything now its not as if I can change what happen to the author or the storyline.

    My opinion on why I think Shiwon's action reasonable:

    Its a love triangle. Its a story, it got to have drama. Its fictional. For god sake dont fight over a fictional character. Everyone got their own opinion.

    Intruding on the mc with hyundo. Hello?? It's a goddamn love triangle. Its not a love triangle if Shiwon just let hyundo be together with the mc no obstacle. If you want pure fluff no drama why are you looking at the author. Based on the authors previous story style i doubt the author will ever write pure fluff. Can you imagine a story when Shiwon doesnt even intrude at all.

    "I will never speak to you" like dude. The mc is dense. If you want someone to really think, you have to give them the worst case scenario. It is not the first story on this site that have this type of line. Shiwon had an unrequited love for mc since he met mc. If mc wants to be with hyundo he will have to leave anyway. And even if mc is not going to date shiwon. They will not talk because Shiwon probably gotta get rid of his feelings first. If mc rejected Shiwon, Shiwon will probably decide to kill his feelings.

    I think the only manipulative thing Shiwon ever did was the "I will never speak to you". He didnt even go beyond tht. The stalking. If you call that stalking what do you call real stalking. Real stalking is when u put gps and cameras all over the person. And never leave em alone. Have you read easy target by the same author. Like Shiwon is not as fucked up as tht. You wrote "any rapist in any manga/manhwa on this site" is better than Shiwon. Like dude have you read 'Killing Stalking'.

    Manipulative is when you pressure a person over and over again and not just once. Manipulative is when u chain up a person until tht person have no other choice but be dependant on you.

    Like you cant call a character evil for just saying "I will never speak to you". I say this multiple times to my younger brother.

    Its not even as if i hate hyundo. Its just at least punch him in the guts before forgiving him instead of just a damn smile.

    Its a story with fictional characters not real human beings or based on real life. You cannot say its naive to love this type of person. Like have you not seen worst??? I've seen worst type of manipulation before hence why I am called misanthrope. You called others naive but your arguement is the most naive one.

    ITS A STORY. without any drama its not going to be a good story to read. A plot will always consist of conflict. You cannot review a story based on being bias for a character. But how the characters and the plot brings the story as a whole. If you dont like a character so be it but dont argue with other people because they dont share the same opinion as you. I only wrote a review based on the fact that i thought you mistook the character name, the second one was because you raged on my reply. This reply is because of your actions.

    Quicksilver February 26, 2021 4:52 pm

    I disagree with this: "Mc ended up with shiwon because the author got pressured. To be honest tht comes with the industry" Produce proof of that being common practice.
    I raged? You can't possibly know my mood, and I object to your assumption about me personally.
    You said, "You cannot review a story based on being bias for a character." I can review a story based on anything I choose.
    What I say is not disagreement. Shiwon certainly does everything I said he does, stalking, ultimatums etc. Your definition of stalking is incorrect. Stalking is repeatedly and covertly following someone.
    An author does not write a story based solely on what readers want. Don't be stupid.
    Doing that is producing a product.
    My comment was not about you. It was an objection to fans demanding that a story be what they want. That's spoiled brats behavior.
    MC was not with Shiwon first. He was with Hondo. He'd never previously been with Shiwon nor did he prefer Shiwon. He even preferred the new guy at the bar over Shiwon. Fans mistook the character of Shiwon. That's a pathetic comment on the intelligence of the readers. Shiwon was originally a plain, dowdy, character who turned into a villain and should have stayed that way.
    No, I haven't read Killing Stalking. I'm not big on violence.
    This is incorrect: "Manipulative is when u chain up a person until tht person have no other choice but be dependant on you." That is not manipulation. It's abduction. The result is sometimes Stockholm Syndrome. It's not part of this story.
    Manipulation mainly means being nice to someone not because you like them but because you want to get something out of them, money, gifts, etc.
    If you do this, "Like you cant call a character evil for just saying "I will never speak to you". I say this multiple times to my younger brother." That's not only manipulation, it's bullying, coercion, taking advantage of, and just plain mean. Don't lecture me on morals. Your conscience ought to tell you how wrong that is. I'm calling you evil.
    What exactly did Hondo do to warrant, "Its just at least punch him in the guts before forgiving him instead of just a damn smile." This is violence. Ian would be guilty of a crime and subject to prosecution. Also, it's stupid and uncivilized.
    I'm a lot of things, but naive isn't one of them.
    Don't attempt to instruct me with this, "ITS A STORY. without any drama its not going to be a good story to read. A plot will always consist of conflict."
    It's obvious to me, but it has nothing to do with my criticism.

    Quicksilver February 27, 2021 4:14 am

    I'll also add that stalking certainly can be done to a targeted victim only once.

    Quicksilver February 27, 2021 4:21 am
    I disagree with this: "Mc ended up with shiwon because the author got pressured. To be honest tht comes with the industry" Produce proof of that being common practice.I raged? You can't possibly know my mood... Quicksilver

    hmmmmm..... this sounds like you're paraphrasing ME: ""IT' A STORY. without any drama its not going to be a good story to read. A plot will always consist of conflict."
    The difference is I would have used correct grammar. Get your own knowledge. Don't copy mine.

    ygirljae May 6, 2021 1:29 am

    I’m late but ofc you’re such a hypocrite. You claim that u actually care about his so called “stalking” when you’re literally a rape apologist. Instead of acting concerned just say that u mad he ended with the good guy and go. You piss me off

    Quicksilver May 6, 2021 2:08 am

    I am not a rape apologist. That's stupid. Everyone knows that rape is wrong. That should go without everyone having to say it every time they comment. Unfortunately, Ian ended up with one of the worst characters I've ever seen in the yaoi world, maybe even the worst. His destructive personality holds an overwhelming amount of potential for evil. He's a nightmare mate You should know this because everyone knows that Aeju was designing him to be the bad guy. That you can't see it, is your misfortune. I hope this lack of judgement doesn't follow you into RL

    ygirljae May 6, 2021 3:15 am
    I am not a rape apologist. That's stupid. Everyone knows that rape is wrong. That should go without everyone having to say it every time they comment. Unfortunately, Ian ended up with one of the worst chara... Quicksilver

    Lmao yes right u keep complaining about people who don’t support rape and refer to them as « haters » and then try to tell them what they should be aware of irl specially when it’s about a good character for once. that’s pathetic really don’t bring your toxicity in this masterpiece.

    Quicksilver May 6, 2021 5:56 pm
    Lmao yes right u keep complaining about people who don’t support rape and refer to them as « haters » and then try to tell them what they should be aware of irl specially when it’s about a good characte... ygirljae

    It's pointless to hate rape in fiction. Wasted emotion. I call people like you haters because you make personal attacks for no reason. Stay on topic.
    LOL Here's your masterpiece: Fan pressured, patched together, disjointed ending. Fans are lousy writers, and some of them don't know a villain when they see one.
    You just want to fight.

    Quicksilver May 6, 2021 6:03 pm
    Lmao yes right u keep complaining about people who don’t support rape and refer to them as « haters » and then try to tell them what they should be aware of irl specially when it’s about a good characte... ygirljae

    How do you "support rape?" Get on either side of it and lift it up?
    Everyone knows that rape wrong, even rapists know it's wrong. In fiction, however, it's free speech, supported by the first amendment. I hope you don't want to mess with people's freedom.

Quicksilver February 6, 2021 2:35 am

Another thing we can do is to put **NS at the beginning of our posts. haha. It's pro-active, right? If you only read posts with **NS before the comment, you can skip all posts that don't have it. That way we're not at the mercy of the &#$@s who post spoilers. lol
(sorry to be so wordy today.)

    Mai February 6, 2021 7:59 pm

    Tho I didnt quite get this LOL but ive nvr seen this sweet side of yours before! (≧∀≦) y r u always mean to me?? LOL jk jk!

Quicksilver February 5, 2021 9:59 pm

I offer some suggestions and hope someone might find some use for them.
1. This is best way prevent the spoiler problem: Stop giving out the link to the novel, and top talking about the novel in the manhwa's cs. That's harsh, but even more harsh is all the people who are hurt and disappointed because of all the spoilers. Really, there's no reason to bring up the novel in this cs. Even if it's nice to tell people there's a novel, it's not nice when doing so causes so much upset and frustration for the commenters here.
2. If you do hand out the link, make CERTAIN you say: "Please do not take the link you got here, go read the novel, and then come back here to post spoilers. thanks." This actually works. I've been doing it in a cs I frequent, and we have almost no spoilers.
3. When someone posts a spoiler, everyone needs to let them know. One person speaking up doesn't do anything.
4. give instructions for how to post a spoiler.
I Hope this helps a little.

    Denizen February 6, 2021 2:20 pm

    Thats...so dumb. Why would not sharing the novel help? If someone wants to read the novel, it seems perfectly helpful to post it. People who dont want to be spoiled simply dont have to read it.

    Quicksilver February 6, 2021 7:17 pm
    Thats...so dumb. Why would not sharing the novel help? If someone wants to read the novel, it seems perfectly helpful to post it. People who dont want to be spoiled simply dont have to read it. Denizen

    The suggestion was not about sharing. It was about stopping people from posting spoilers. If no one reads the novel, no one will be inappropriately discussing the yet unposted chapters of the novel in the CS of the manhwa. No one will be talking about what happens in the yet unseen chapters of the manhwa. I should not have to tell you this. You should be able to figure it out from reading the suggestion.
    People who are reading the manhwa do not want to know what happens in the chapters subsequent to what is posted in the manhwa. I'm trying to explain this thoroughly in case you still don't understand.

    Mai February 6, 2021 7:52 pm

    Thats the most useful info someone has ever given on mangago! ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ thankyou so much for this!

    Mai February 6, 2021 7:52 pm
    Thats...so dumb. Why would not sharing the novel help? If someone wants to read the novel, it seems perfectly helpful to post it. People who dont want to be spoiled simply dont have to read it. Denizen

    LOL WHAT?? And thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard! Lol

    Denizen February 8, 2021 5:17 am
    The suggestion was not about sharing. It was about stopping people from posting spoilers. If no one reads the novel, no one will be inappropriately discussing the yet unposted chapters of the novel in the CS ... Quicksilver

    no, I fully understand that. But suggesting that no one should read the novel so that manwha only's dont get spoiled in the comments is...ridiculous. The novel is just as good, I'd encourage people to read it too more than anything.

    Quicksilver February 8, 2021 11:52 pm
    no, I fully understand that. But suggesting that no one should read the novel so that manwha only's dont get spoiled in the comments is...ridiculous. The novel is just as good, I'd encourage people to read it t... Denizen

    This space is for discussing the manhwa, and it's hardly fair for people to get a link here, read the novel, and come back here to post their spoilers. There's a space provided for comments on the novel at the site of the novel. It's not the duty of the manhwa readers to provide external links to outside materials, nor is it in their best interest. The entire reason for all the spoilers is that the manhwa readers keep posting that link and discussing the novel inappropriately here. That it is done here to the point where the novel is being discussed and spoiled as much as the manhwa is a problem. A lot of people get their feelings hurt from having the story spoiled. They should be free to enjoy the comment section, and it's totally wrong for people to take this comment section away from them by constantly spoiling without warning to the point that it's impossible for them to participate..
    last, I never said, nor would I ever say that people should not read the novel.

    SharkVice February 10, 2021 8:40 pm

    I understand where you're coming from but what you want is unrealistic. You cannot control other peoples actions. Only thing you can do is do your best to not read spoilers and reprimand someone when they don't properly tag their comments with SPOILER. I haven't read any spoilers for this series myself mostly cause I don't tend to go digging through the comments. The times I have been spoiled in other series is because I willingly read the spoilers.

    Quicksilver February 10, 2021 8:58 pm
    I understand where you're coming from but what you want is unrealistic. You cannot control other peoples actions. Only thing you can do is do your best to not read spoilers and reprimand someone when they don't... SharkVice

    Who said I wanted to control anything? As stated, I clearly offered only suggestions. There's no such thing as "willingly reading spoilers" A person has already read them before they can possibly know it's a spoiler. Also, the human eye takes in more than what we are consciously aware of. Thinking you can avoid spoilers when people are so inconsiderate as to not post warnings is unrealistic.

    SharkVice February 10, 2021 9:16 pm
    Who said I wanted to control anything? As stated, I clearly offered only suggestions. There's no such thing as "willingly reading spoilers" A person has already read them before they can possibly know it's... Quicksilver

    I meant "You" in a general sense. Not particularly aimed at you personally. If I or anyone asks people to stop giving spoilers it wont actually do anything because we don't have that sort of power to regulate people's actions. Getting people to be organized and do something is difficult. Even the law which enforces repercussions doesn't have a hold on everyone. People will just do as they want. In an ideal world everyone would be considerate of each other but that is not the reality we live in. If you read the comments you will run the risk of reading spoilers.

    Quicksilver February 10, 2021 9:46 pm
    I meant "You" in a general sense. Not particularly aimed at you personally. If I or anyone asks people to stop giving spoilers it wont actually do anything because we don't have that sort of power to regulate p... SharkVice

    Jeez, how old are you to be so pessimistic? LOL I've seen peer pressure work many times.

    Quicksilver February 10, 2021 9:55 pm
    I meant "You" in a general sense. Not particularly aimed at you personally. If I or anyone asks people to stop giving spoilers it wont actually do anything because we don't have that sort of power to regulate p... SharkVice

    I will concede that children don't always understand the difference between right and wrong. Imo that's likely the problem here

    Mai February 11, 2021 1:55 am

    Aaaaaaand they still didnt get the point! LOLOL

    SharkVice February 11, 2021 2:56 am
    Aaaaaaand they still didnt get the point! LOLOL Mai

    Is like a horse with blinkers

    Quicksilver February 11, 2021 6:41 am
    Is like a horse with blinkers SharkVice

    lmao. I dunno what that means, but it's funny.

    Quicksilver February 11, 2021 6:42 am
    Aaaaaaand they still didnt get the point! LOLOL Mai

    LOL Mai-chan

    SharkVice February 11, 2021 7:46 am
    lmao. I dunno what that means, but it's funny. Quicksilver

    It's something I used to hear a lot as a kid. Racing horses wear this head piece called blinkers that prevent them from seeing sideways so they wont get distracted. Basically, they can only see what's in front of them. So when ya refer to someone as a racing horse or a horse wearing blinkers its an analogy for saying that they can only see/rush towards what's in front of them without being able to see their surroundings. It has a neutral connotation since it can refer to someone who's so goal driven they don't get distracted, or someone who can only see what's in front of them or their own opinion etc.

    Mai February 11, 2021 5:48 pm
    It's something I used to hear a lot as a kid. Racing horses wear this head piece called blinkers that prevent them from seeing sideways so they wont get distracted. Basically, they can only see what's in front ... SharkVice

    ........................buahahahahaha Im dead!

    Mai February 11, 2021 5:51 pm
    lmao. I dunno what that means, but it's funny. Quicksilver

    I miss QS's jokes ! LOL hi 5 ヽ(`Д´)ノ

    Quicksilver February 12, 2021 4:36 am
    It's something I used to hear a lot as a kid. Racing horses wear this head piece called blinkers that prevent them from seeing sideways so they wont get distracted. Basically, they can only see what's in front ... SharkVice

    Thank you, Shark-chan, for that explanation. much appreciated. I was getting an image of a horse with lights like car blinkers to either side of his head. LOL

    Quicksilver February 12, 2021 4:37 am
    I miss QS's jokes ! LOL hi 5 ヽ(`Д´)ノ Mai

    When they changed my eyes, they took my sense of humor.

    Quicksilver February 12, 2021 4:47 am
    I meant "You" in a general sense. Not particularly aimed at you personally. If I or anyone asks people to stop giving spoilers it wont actually do anything because we don't have that sort of power to regulate p... SharkVice

    yeah, you're right about some of this stuff. There's a cs that I own where I'm constantly having to clean house. lmao. you know, root out the people who do nothing but complain about the good stuff in yaoi, and just kick their asses. I have a bad rep about it, too. the fun never ends

    SharkVice February 12, 2021 5:45 am
    yeah, you're right about some of this stuff. There's a cs that I own where I'm constantly having to clean house. lmao. you know, root out the people who do nothing but complain about the good stuff in yaoi, ... Quicksilver

    People are naturally hella unorganized. Back in HS it was such a bitch to get my classmates to show up to fun raisers that were for our own benefit (to pay our graduation party and trip). We was a small class too. Same reason I hated doing group projects in uni. People will just do as they want (⌒▽⌒) Just living life makes ya lose ya faith in others. You do you but honestly don't expect others to be on your same frequency cause they'll just disappoint you.

    Mai February 12, 2021 4:38 pm

    What's with this gloomy aura! ( ̄へ ̄) y r kids here so cheerless n dispirited

    SharkVice February 12, 2021 6:15 pm
    What's with this gloomy aura! ( ̄へ ̄) y r kids here so cheerless n dispirited Mai

    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ I'm a realist

    Quicksilver February 12, 2021 7:50 pm
    People are naturally hella unorganized. Back in HS it was such a bitch to get my classmates to show up to fun raisers that were for our own benefit (to pay our graduation party and trip). We was a small class t... SharkVice

    Fuck frequency. Threatening people's lives sometimes works for me, conning them into believing that where you are is the place to be. Bribes. Piss them off to where they're going to show up just so they can hate on you. Saying, "my friend here will blow you if you come." You can lose friends that way, but eff 'em. How much are you going to care in two years? In fact, not caring if they show up is a real good way to avoid angst. This works best when you're not planning on showing up either.

    Quicksilver February 12, 2021 7:56 pm
    People are naturally hella unorganized. Back in HS it was such a bitch to get my classmates to show up to fun raisers that were for our own benefit (to pay our graduation party and trip). We was a small class t... SharkVice

    Dig up some dirt on everyone and threaten to spread it around. I forgot to add that one.

    Quicksilver February 12, 2021 7:58 pm
    People are naturally hella unorganized. Back in HS it was such a bitch to get my classmates to show up to fun raisers that were for our own benefit (to pay our graduation party and trip). We was a small class t... SharkVice

    appropriate personal items and say you'll give it back at the meeting. I don't know if this works cuz I never went to meetings

    SharkVice February 12, 2021 8:24 pm
    appropriate personal items and say you'll give it back at the meeting. I don't know if this works cuz I never went to meetings Quicksilver

    fuck xD

    Mai February 13, 2021 3:38 am
    Fuck frequency. Threatening people's lives sometimes works for me, conning them into believing that where you are is the place to be. Bribes. Piss them off to where they're going to show up just so they can ... Quicksilver

    HAHAHAHA this is GOLD!!

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