Was not giving the 3rd couple more screen time.
Younger uke corrupting the older seme is my favorite flavor.
Couldn't.agree more
Since it had been a while and I'm currently waiting for my replacement volumes to come in the mail ((had a real bad outbreak of mold in a storage area I used so 50% of my manga were ruined)) and I'm honestly not surprised by the fact that new wave "fujos" are having a normal one over it now lol
It deals with more mature topics than most series that are just centered around high schoolers struggling to say "daisuki" and it wasn't afraid to add a lil taboo spice into the mix. When it was first being serialized in jp everyone loved it 'cause of how serious the subject matters were. It was made for a more mature audience that could understand that this was a fictional setting and thus could actually enjoy it from beginning to end.
Now everyone likes to circle jerk over how "morally just" they are for consuming "safe horny" shit and suck the fun and enjoyment out of anyone who thinks differently. You've got people who spend way too much time making claims of being "fetishized" when they are literally a nobody, and others who demand fictional characters write apology letters for doing something bad lol then you've got the ones who harass mangaka or their managers and fans for writing "illegal" stuff or just something they don't like in general.
This is definitely the weakest and most pathetic generation of readers I have seen in all my 20 years of reading bl/yaoi. This genre becoming mainstream was a fucking mistake lol
You too old for this bruh
And you're probably too young to be reading any of this lol
What I do in my spare time is quite frankly none of your damn business.
Don't you got a docu-series on the origin of skibidi to watch or something??
Im legal sis
Yes its my business cuz it’s been 20 yrs and that’s what u took away from the discourse
If you're complaining that there's not enough rape, assault, paedophilia and homophobia in stories these days then you're the problem. Honestly you can still find that stuff all over the place, and there is no shortage of psychological, thriller and horror bl either, go read Blind Play. Idk what exactly it is you're even complaining about.
omfg you are just a terrible person. so when i assumed you only look for gay men being raped i wasn’t fucking wrong jesus you need fucking help.
I am very sorry for your collection being ruined, that sucks.
But as a "new wave fujo" and an adult I disagree with your opinion. We don't dislike mature topics and only read high schoolers struggling to say daisuki.
Mature and heavy topics have go be handled correctly, that's it. You said it very correctly, ten count was popular because it has mature themes. That's why I liked it as a 13 year old.
As an adult I could recognize that the themes were handled with no care and regard for people struggling with those real issues and that it just blatantly fetishizes them.
Just because it has dark themes doesn't mean it's automatically good.
Also, nobody is asking fictional characters for apologies and while certainly there are people threatening mangakas i can assure you that I as a so called "new wave fujo" do not condone that.
u lowkey need to Kee urself
I'm sorry, but where in my rant did I say we need more dark themes in bl series lol
I was complaining about how people just now getting into bl complain about older series or tropes. I was pointing out that they lead massive harassment campaigns-- ones that myself and many others have documented btw-- where they try to ruin the lives of artists and others over cartoons just 'cause they might not like what is portrayed.
Never once was I like "yeah, we should crank that shit to an 11." I was just stating that people don't like series like this 'cause it isn't uwu soft beans falling in love. It deals with a more mature, darker theme and people are using that as an excuse to be horrendous towards those who enjoyed the series.
I'm sorry for the fact that you can't read lol
Joo Jaekyung is one character off the top of my head that I can think of seeing dozens of posts and remarks about how either himself or Mingwa needs to "apologize" for the things he's done. I've seen people say it for fictional villains in other series even outside of bl. Just 'cause you haven't seen it doesn't mean it isn't happening, hun.
Also, yeah, it doesn't deal with the themes 100% correctly. Nothing does unless you're reading medical texts or something that isn't, yanno, fictional. It's why we have series that deal with trauma, disorders, abuse and the whole shebang that aren't a 1:1 representation of how things *should* be handled in real life. It's like this because it is fictional. Obviously sex isn't going to cure someone's mental disability and the power of love isn't going to make a homophobic high schooler suddenly want to bang the cute twink that sits in the desk next to him.
People are only mad at this series 'cause of the themes in it. People call it gross 'cause of Shiro's misguided feelings towards his father as a child that became the reason for his trauma which evolved into a mental disorder. I even got into it with someone who claimed the mangaka was fetishizing them-- not their disorder-- but them as a human being when no one even knows who tf they are. It's delusional. Plain and simple.
And like I said, just 'cause you don't see it happening doesn't mean it isn't. Also, just 'cause you don't think the same way doesn't mean anyone else doesn't, either. I've spent way too much time on this site reading just about anything I can to not have the pattern recognition down to a science.
It's why I even bothered to say anything in the first place.
Hun, if the shit I've been through and survived didn't kill me what makes you think you're gonna convince me to lol
You goofy as hell.
mf ur the one crying over new wave fujos actually being able to criticise the shit they read and not goon to them mindlessly
But can we get a re-upload of ch. 10 & 11??
It's hard to understand some parts and seeing as this is supposed to have a mystery setting this shit is already a migraine and a half to keep up with even with coherent translations lol
I'm usually the one who asks for people to not upload over each other, but this person only did 2 chapters then never did anything else for years so I don't think they'd be pissed if someone reuploaded over them with official chapters.
With the other comments.
The side story should have been its own series. It feels kinda flimsy and rushed. I'm glad we got to see the brother and the lil asshole's backstory, but I feel like it was just kinda tossed in there as an afterthought.
It's just kinda disappointing 'cause I actually did want to know what happened between them and how they came to be together. Yeah, I didn't like them fucking with my main boys, but they clearly had a goal and motives. I just wish more love had been put into their story.
Its yaoi bro take it or leave it. Make your own manga if ur not happy about it. You're reading it illegally and ur still complaining.
Boohoo eat my ass lol I've been reading yaoi/bl longer than most of ya'll have even known it exists.
It's a comment, not a dick. Don't take it so hard lol
"I read yaoi longer than yall"
"ive been reading yaoi longer than any of you guys".. how does reading it illegally AND being an asshole about it correlate?? so what if you've been reading it for longer than anyone else get your head out of the gutter bro ur pathetic
I'm not the one tilted by the fact that I basically said I liked this series I just wish the brother and his demon lover had their own series so that their story was more well-rounded lol I don't hate them nor do I wish we never got their side of things.
This is why you don't do drugs, kids. Now how about you go crawl back into your k-hole lol
MC is literally participating or at least being complacent in the trafficking of women HE PUTS INTO DEBT by being a host, but ya'll are tweaking over the fact that the yakuza members who are looking for the daughter of their boss who was one of his frequent customers are beating him and whatnot to get him to talk lol
Ya'll can excuse sex trafficking dozens of women but you draw the line at a shitty person getting what they deserve.
No one said that he is actually part of some kind of trafficking ring. It was just a speculation/assumption on the "yakuza's" side.
It's probably going to be something like her going to the club a lot to get away and plan her escape. He probably helped her and she's with a lover or something like that
Now who is making assumptions lol
It's a common trope/tidbit about the host industry where they get women so addicted to their shops that they get sold off to "soap lands" or brothels to pay off their debts.
In this scenario it very well could be something like "oh, the daughter of the head of the yakuza just wanted to run away and he's trying to shield for her", but the yakuza, who have their thumb on the pulse of kabukicho and whatnot would definitely know if trafficking was going on on their turf lol
Also, if it was something like she ran away why couldn't he had just said "she ran off and I don't know where to" instead of just pretending he doesn't know her when they have proof that she was constantly at his club?? Saying he doesn't know where she went would have been a way more believable lie than "I don't know her" when they provided proof of her being there enough times that it had become a problem.
Ya'll just mad that the big bad yakuza is doing what he has to do to find his boss's daughter and the poor uke is the one being tortured lol
I'm not saying the MC is innocent I'm just saying that at no point is there a clear statement of trafficking actually being the case, nor was there any mention of debt.
Telling the Yakuza "yeah I know her but no clue where she went" is the same as "I don't know her" he'll get tortured and pressed for more info either way. It's not like they'll answer with "Oh good let us know if you hear anything good sir, now be on your way"
I don't remember trafficking of women to be a common trope in BL?? I've seen it at most like twice? They like to threat with "if you don't pay this off your wife and daughter will have to for the next 20 years" but that never actually happens
I don't even think that's a common trope, i haven't even seen that kind of trope with my 1000+ already read manga, manhwa, manhua like that's is literally a rare trope, mostly if there is women trafficking trope it never actually happen, those kind of trope only happen in those like sm*t manga
I'm talking about with yakuza, not BL/yaoi series. But also, I literally just recently reread a series that had a host one-shot where the dude brags about driving women so deep in debt that they sell themselves at soaplands and the only way he can get hard fucking them is "if he imagines their pussy making money" for him at said soaplands.
People constantly have debates in the comments here and in other places about how shitty hosts are for taking advantage of people ((there's a ongoing series about a host and a male prostitute where I've seen people shit on the host 'cause of his job and what his job makes him do)) and how predatory the business is lol
Yakuza being pieces of shit is nothing new. If anything, BL/yaoi yakuza are tame compared to actual yakuza today.
Also, him straight up pretending like he doesn't know her when they have photo evidence is still much worse than him admitting to seeing her at the shop but not knowing she disappeared. He's basically proving that he's flat-out lying to their faces despite their being evidence that she frequented his club. You have to add a grain of truth to your lies for people to believe you more.
I've read well over 4,000 yaoi/bl series and have been reading them for 20+ years. Idfk what manga you are reading but it happens often where it's mentioned that hosts are notorious for driving their customers into debt to keep their pockets lined with green lol they may not mention every single time that most of their customers have to turn to selling themselves, but it's happened often enough that people either assume soaplands or loan sharks to keep paying for their addiction to hosts.
I can't remember the name rn since I just picked up 10 new titles just within this last week, but there's literally a newer, ongoing series about a male host and a male prostitute that has the comment section in flames 'cause everyone thinks the seme is a piece of shit for being a host lol
Bffr
But is it confirmed that our MC is the one who doing it? Wasn't it just assumption on the Yakuzas part? That might be true host do that, but she is a daughter of a fcking mafia boss, she's loaded. She's rich. If it's true that she was being sold, why are you cornering the MC? It's not even revealed yet and the yakuza just blame our MC cuz she often saw in the club our MC working. Why are you going hellbent like it was your relatives that get kidnapped? Lmao It was just a fiction and you can see from the beginning, the comedy side is more heavy than psychological side bcs how you can see them making the part when they interrogation our MC full of comedic scene and expression. So for this to be have such a dark turn is kinda small. So the reason must be not quite serious or if it's serious, our MC might not be part of it. If you read so many then you should can tell the difference when the manga or manhwa would turn around the dark part.
PLEASE SUI IS SO PRECIOUS AND THE "DEMON" IS SO SWEET??? DESPITE BEING A HIRED KILLER???
OOOOOOOOOOO MY HEART CANNOT TAKE THIS-- SAKANA-SEN YOU GENIUS.
Not out of fear or shock of Blue's back muscles, but because my boner expanded so quickly the sheer force alone was enough to launch my lap desk and smart tablet into SPACE--
Imagine being a mighty and proud creature made specifically by the gods for the gods and being undermined by humans of all things.
I like stories like this and the story of Lucifer 'cause I can totally see why these beings would be pissed off and hurt being put second to us lol
Not to mention that Baeksa was locked away and alone for God only knows how long, only to possess the body of a whore and be plagued to live through the memories of his grotesque abuse. No wonder he referred to Yehwa's body as an "empty vase." I wouldn't want to live anymore, either.