Puppyboy Agend-er January 8, 2025 11:05 pm

Will be able to eventually curse people to death.

Like, slow and methodically like he did the initial bastard at the orphanage where he did it unknowingly over a period of time.

I feel like that'd be the best way to off Cesare in this case since being in the same vicinity as him allows him the ability to manipulate his feelings. Like a damage over time effect that won't let up till you either apply the correct curative or you're dead regardless of whether you are near the source of the curse or not ((like poison damage in Pokémon)).

Also, I would be terrified of doing all this shit to a literal God of death knowing the moment your powers let up and Taejoo knows the truth your ass is fucking grass. He can even make it seem like an accident or natural cause and no one would be none the wiser. Like, fuck being impotent your life is forfeit. Cesare is truly the dumbest villain in existence that isn't a complete gag character for laughs.

    Puppyboy Agend-er January 8, 2025 11:05 pm

    Also, people saying Jung-hoo needs to leave Taejoo are wrong. The reason why Cesare was able to take all his past partners was partly due to the fact that he cut them off once he found out. Yeah, a bigger part is that they didn't have the power to resist as much as Taejoo has, but if he had stuck around them a while longer he might have realized there's something more to Cesare than just being your average manwhore.

    That and I honestly think if Jung-hoo left him that Taejoo would kill himself. He's already been through so much abuse before any of this ever happened and I think he's 110% serious about wanting to die whenever he's being manipulated by Cesare. He needs someone to stand beside him as someone who has never had anyone he could trust before. He's so close to realizing that Cesare is controlling him somehow, if Jung-hoo left he'd probably go ballistic and kill the people who have harmed him and then himself. Taejoo has always been standing right on the edge of giving everything up. Jung-hoo is the first person to ever make him consider taking a step back from that edge.

    Puppyboy Agend-er January 8, 2025 11:14 pm

    **mangago deleted my comment??? So I'm having to type this up from memory the best I can lol**

    And I don't agree with the people who say Jung-hoo should just leave Taejoo. Given his history of being abused, I believe he was 110% serious when he said he wanted to die when he was being assaulted by Cesare.

    That and I feel like part of the reason why Jung-hoo's past partners were taken was due to the fact he gave up so easily. Yeah, a MAJOR part of it was due to them not having the same powers or being as powerful as Taejoo, but I think him telling Taejoo that he'll stay with him regardless is what's giving Taejoo that extra boost he needs to resist Cesare. That and they are so close to figuring it all out.

    Another thing is that Taejoo needs someone to be there for him. To believe him when he speaks the truth. He's already been through so much. He's a person who has lived his whole life standing on the edge of giving everything up. Jung-hoo is the first person to ever make him take a step back from that ledge. If Taejoo lost him I'm confident that he'd go completely ballistic, killing all those who harmed him and then himself.

    Puppyboy Agend-er January 8, 2025 11:14 pm
    **mangago deleted my comment??? So I'm having to type this up from memory the best I can lol**And I don't agree with the people who say Jung-hoo should just leave Taejoo. Given his history of being abused, I be... Puppyboy Agend-er

    OK SO MANGAGO DIDN'T DELETE MY COMMENT SO IGNORE THIS ONE IDFK WHAT IS GOING ON I GIVE UP LOL

    Loonarloon January 9, 2025 1:54 am

    I want him to slowly poison him over time every time he manipulates people's emotions. Make his power the curse since he is a piece of shit for it.

    Puppyboy Agend-er January 9, 2025 2:40 am
    I want him to slowly poison him over time every time he manipulates people's emotions. Make his power the curse since he is a piece of shit for it. Loonarloon

    I mean, I don't know the extent of his powers even if he was fully in control of them lol there could be an arbitrary in-world rule to their powers that makes it difficult to mess with another god's abilities. The only reason why the time god was able to act that one is 'cause he used his powers on the surrounding area and not directly on weather boy's powers.

    But I do like the idea of any time Cesare tries to get sexual with someone or something along those lines he's dealt damage. Killing him right off would be a shame. Make him think he's safe till he tries to do something and suddenly he's bleeding from every orifice. Maybe even drop something on him to make him permanently paralyzed. Reduce him to a vegetable forced to watch the world pass him by and everyone forgets about him.

    Whatever makes Taejoo and Jung-hoo happy, tho. I'm just tired of people trying to pin the blame on Taejoo's lack of ability to push back the manipulation when he's literally being raped and thinking about killing himself each time he loses control of his own will.

    Like, it's rare that a series has me shaking like this. The last time was Serene Bird by BWT when the MC kept getting kidnapped, raped and drugged by the ML's deranged brother-- and noncon usually doesn't faze me that much if I'm being honest.

    gg_253 January 9, 2025 10:49 pm

    oh i like the concept...sounds kind of like a detailed death note mechanism of action. this was a very thought out post but i kinda wanna say "kill the small fry, giving him ed is not enough." (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

    Puppyboy Agend-er January 9, 2025 11:24 pm
    oh i like the concept...sounds kind of like a detailed death note mechanism of action. this was a very thought out post but i kinda wanna say "kill the small fry, giving him ed is not enough." (╯°Д °)╯�... gg_253

    I was just thinking in more tactical terms since getting close to Cesare is proving to be too much danger for Taejoo. It'd be easier to do something like damage over time to where he not only suffers but eventually will die a painful death.

    I just want Taejoo to be happy, and this entire conflict has been giving me such bad flashbacks to Serene Bird I've been shaking after finishing each update. It takes a lot to rattle me, but this shit got me so mad and fearful for Taejoo. It doesn't help that there are also people in the comments insisting that they just break-up or that Taejoo is just letting this all happen so I'm like infinitely more pissed lol

    gg_253 January 10, 2025 7:43 am
    I was just thinking in more tactical terms since getting close to Cesare is proving to be too much danger for Taejoo. It'd be easier to do something like damage over time to where he not only suffers but eventu... Puppyboy Agend-er

    i get you! btw i remember somebody saying that this Cesare part is handled way better in the og novel and Taejoo is more of a badass in the novel. Novel doesn't have an english translation yet, but I've heard that it's better than the manhwa adaptation. so i wanna check it out someday...also from what i've heard things will be annoying for a long while from this point on (though it will get better later on apparently)

    Puppyboy Agend-er January 10, 2025 5:23 pm
    i get you! btw i remember somebody saying that this Cesare part is handled way better in the og novel and Taejoo is more of a badass in the novel. Novel doesn't have an english translation yet, but I've heard t... gg_253

    If that's true then I'll probably let this one marinate. I don't think my mental health can take seeing any more of this happening lol

    I had to do the same for Serene Bird each time the MC was kidnapped by the ML's psychotic brother. I had to wait months before I could even touch it.

    Thanks for the heads up. I appreciate it lol

Puppyboy Agend-er January 7, 2025 3:56 pm

Who didn't have issues following the story?

Like, I have insomnia and a full time job and I didn't struggle for a second to understand what was going on.

This was much less confusing than some other series I have read that had left me with migraines after reading only one chapter.

    nis January 7, 2025 6:55 pm

    It's not about following. Literally nothing is going on in the plot

    Puppyboy Agend-er January 7, 2025 7:49 pm
    It's not about following. Literally nothing is going on in the plot nis

    But there is tho??

    Like, it's a lot more abstract than clear-cut-- it's a lot like the ending of Ito-san in that way-- but there is something going on. I just think too many people are hung up on how short and fast-paced each chapter is instead of focusing on the story beats they are given.

    nis January 7, 2025 9:44 pm

    No.

Puppyboy Agend-er January 7, 2025 1:25 am

But where tf was he when the mother of his child straight up died on the street?

Like, were they already separated atp? And if so, why? Was it due to Yui's mother knowing that he's a selfish PoS? This is the second time that we know of and have seen of him putting his job before his daughter. He's actively putting his dream before his own child and disguising it as "trying to provide a better life" for her.

Like, I get wanting to provide a better future for your child, but you don't get to literally run off on her, not even showing up to the funeral when Yui would have needed him most, then randomly show up saying you're gonna take her away from the people who have been shedding blood, sweat and tears to care for her.

Torano literally quit his job, started his own business and used his connections to help him with Yui while doing so. I can't imagine it was perfect the entire time, but the difference is that Torano put her first before anything else. He's changed his life so that she could grow up happy and healthy to the best of his ability.

It just blows my mind how stupidly selfish her dad is.

It reminds me of that one line from Guardians of the Galaxy, "he may be your father, but he ain't ya daddy." He may be Yui's biological father, but he's not her dad in the slightest. He's a sperm donor at best.

Puppyboy Agend-er December 29, 2024 3:35 am

But I am a lil confused as to why it took them till s2 to actually draw out the sex scenes instead of just cutting to the next day.

It's either that or the English version cut it out for some reason seeing as at the end of the chapter where Eyra has that dream about fucking dragon Yanu there's a cut from the OG translation that shows a lot more of that dream.

It just feels weird 'cause usually the first sex scene is supposed to have some sort of weight to it ((whether positively or negatively)) but after going through an entire season of them fucking around and never seeing it, finally getting one in s2 made it fall flat for me. I was just like "oh ok, so we will eventually get to see them bang" and that was it.

    Minyu December 29, 2024 4:18 am

    I don't quite remember but i have read past comment. They said, season 1 was shounen ai meanwhile season 2 is yaoi. From another comment from the novel, before the scene in season 2 they already have their first sex.

    Puppyboy Agend-er December 29, 2024 5:35 am
    I don't quite remember but i have read past comment. They said, season 1 was shounen ai meanwhile season 2 is yaoi. From another comment from the novel, before the scene in season 2 they already have their firs... Minyu

    I think it's mostly a censorship thing. It's heavily, *heavily* implied that they are having sex quite frequently, it's just the scenes are cut out for some reason.

    And if you look at the end of the chapter where Eyra has the kinky dragon sex dream there's clearly more to the scene that was just cut out for the English version. It's just really confusing and slightly irritating.

    Also, shounen-ai doesn't necessarily mean no sex scenes. There are plenty of shounen-ai that have very graphic sex scenes in them. It just means it's a lil more story driven/romance oriented than standard bl, and even then that definition isn't entirely correct, either. It's just arbitrary definitions western fans came up with as bl became more popular over here in the early 2000's without knowing what the true definitions were.

Puppyboy Agend-er December 26, 2024 5:06 pm

Oh, no... he's totally my type LOL

Puppyboy Agend-er December 26, 2024 11:08 am

Uni lost his round lil kitten face lol

I kept thinking to myself that something was different and then they go and mention how he's basically filled out and become more mature compared to the beginning of the series.

It's crazy what being fed proper meals and being loved can do for someone's health (▰˘◡˘▰)

Thistle December 25, 2024 11:09 pm

The evil has been vanquished (⌒▽⌒)

    Thistle December 25, 2024 11:12 pm

    Now get ready for like 10 chapters of Won pumping Seonho's insides full of cum lol

Thistle December 25, 2024 11:05 pm

I thought I was seeing shit for a moment--

    Thistle December 25, 2024 11:42 pm

    OK, but like, why are they so cuuuuuuute I fucking can't OTL

    Sharpe being older but more awkward is doing something to my brain.

Thistle December 24, 2024 10:10 pm

Someone granted my wish and finished the tl for this in 2025.

Onegai--

Thistle December 24, 2024 9:59 pm

This wasn't meant to be a romantic, lovey-dovey "mortal man changes the heart of a cold, immortal vampire" series.

It's dark. It's tragic. It's meant to make you hurt. This isn't going to have a happy ending-- much like this mangaka's other works where the endings are dubiously "happy" at best.

Azure is meant to be a cruel, melancholic immortal being that is only trying to satisfy his own needs. He's twisted from centuries of living a meaningless and boring life. Tbh this is a lot more accurate to what immortality can do to a living being. It's not pretty and it isn't meant to be. It's why a lot of vampire series have the vampires trying to find some way to die or find a reason to keep living.

People reading this and getting upset that Shuuya isn't magically turning Azure more humane can't truly grasp what this series is trying to tell. An immortal apex predator isn't going to be soft and fluffy. You can certainly write them that way if you want, but I find series like this and FANGS ((a vampire series that deals with a lot of heavy emotional themes like vampire suicide and derangement)) more refreshing 'cause it paints a more accurate picture of what immortality does to people.

It's fine to want something romantic and Beauty and the Beast-esque, just don't get your panties in a twist if not every single vampire story is like that.

    December 25, 2024 4:29 am

    I couldn't agree more! And "FANGS" is just *chef's kiss*

    Thistle December 25, 2024 5:27 am
    I couldn't agree more! And "FANGS" is just *chef's kiss*

    It really is lol

    Like, I like me a good comfy read, but sometimes I need something that delves deeper into darker themes-- especially when it comes to horror or monsters.

    And this mangaka is one of the ones I'd trust to pull it off lol

    Yukihina December 25, 2024 7:17 am

    Wish I could thumbs you up twice. I picked up this series because it was the first time in a while I saw a vampire that acted like...well, a vampire; a mythical monster, instead of a casanova with fangs.

    Thistle December 25, 2024 7:25 am
    Wish I could thumbs you up twice. I picked up this series because it was the first time in a while I saw a vampire that acted like...well, a vampire; a mythical monster, instead of a casanova with fangs. Yukihina

    People tend to forget that vampires were originally written and depicted as demonic creatures who fed on and raped innocent people in the middle of the night lol

    I mean, it's fine to like a more romanticized version where they are just lonely creatures that are often akin to stray cats, but series like this are a much more accurate depiction of what they were originally intended to be.

    I just get tired of people griping and bitching when something doesn't fit their woobified fantasy of what a monster is. I love that FANGS *does* have its really cute and funny moments. This series is not that, tho. Even the whole premise was never supposed to be about Shuuya humanizing a monster that feeds on humans through the power of love lol we knew from the jump that Azure was rotten and that there was no redeeming him or absolving him of all his sins.

    I just wish people would accept that and either move on to read something else or at least be quiet in the comments if they continue to read.

    levipleasecallmeback December 25, 2024 1:11 pm

    well… this was indirectly towards me (not me alone obviously) but again my issue is not any of this . it’s off-putting that people don’t let you have nuance on anything and belittle criticism with “you don’t understand the story”

    had to clarify because with how you commented under my post, you have a misconception about my opinion. i understood his characterization, and am aware of the type of story this is, and looked forward to a gritty/harsh story. to me there’s literally no problem with the dark triggering content!! my whole issue with this series is how his depth clashes with what makes yuuya special to him. the storytelling is bad and that’s all. nothing to do with the genre, the bad shit azure did, and false expectations

    was lowkey offended you thought i couldn’t understand a low tier vampire story, when toxic vampire stories are my bread and butter </3 im really confused and not happy that my entire complaint didn’t relate to any of this but i got lumped up with it lmaoo

    Thistle December 25, 2024 5:03 pm
    well… this was indirectly towards me (not me alone obviously) but again my issue is not any of this . it’s off-putting that people don’t let you have nuance on anything and belittle criticism with “you ... levipleasecallmeback

    I wasn't talking specifically about you and tbh until I went back to check my comment history I had forgotten who you even were lol

    I was mostly speaking on the people who keep shit talking how Azure is characterized when the whole point is for him to be cruel and cold towards human life.

    And I don't think you get the story now that I'm remembering lol the concept of a "bride" to Azure is different than what it means to humans. He's not looking for a romantic partner but someone who can give meaning to his life that is out of the norm. It's why he makes the bet of "whoever falls in love first loses", but I don't think he quite understands that forcing people to say "I love you" isn't the same as them coming to their own feelings and expressing it. It's WHY he doesn't immediately kill Shuuya like Wisteria tells him to like the others despite thinking Shuuya is like the others.

    There *is* something special about Shuuya, but it isn't in the stereotypical romance way. He's somehow breaking Azure's expectations, but Azure himself doesn't understand why or how 'cause he no longer understands human thought or emotions.

    It's hard for me to articulate exactly what is going on, but your analysis is not what is going on lol

    levipleasecallmeback December 25, 2024 9:30 pm
    I wasn't talking specifically about you and tbh until I went back to check my comment history I had forgotten who you even were lolI was mostly speaking on the people who keep shit talking how Azure is characte... Thistle

    it’s not even about remembering me specifically ? lol it’s how you tried to correct me on something i didnt have problems with. i knew i was lumped because you used the exact same sentiment in this post

    like you just created a false narrative again to suit you ?? we can have differing opinions but to say “u just don’t get the story” when i literally went in depth and explained i fully understand the characterization of azure and what is motive is. HOWEVER, my issue is- what makes shuuya different from the others doesn’t feel all that special. it doesn’t have to be a stereotypical romance way!! and i keep saying that!! again my issue is that he didn’t break azures expectations the night he was captured. no one has provided an answer to my only question: what makes shuuya special specifically- not glossing it over and saying he’s breaking expectations. killing the girl from the orphanage doesn’t count, im talking about what drove azure to be protective and possessive at first. this is fr the only thing im not satisfied with

    my analysis is exactly what’s going on… it’s the same as yours except one aspect?? but you just don’t like how im criticizing the story and keep dancing around my actual opinion by saying its wrong; then rehashing things that weren’t my concern in the first place ┗( T﹏T )┛

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