Minwook is a king and his friend is awesome!!! You can tell if a person is good or not based on the people they surround themselves with. His friend stuck up for Hayeon in the classroom even though he doesn't want to get involved and really said some nice things to Minwook.
Okay, so one of my friends was a twin, but the other twin was a stillborn. It really fucked up the mom and dad and it led to a lot of abuse towards my friend, which influenced his siblings into neglecting him as well until they became surrounded by more people and were able to reflect on their actions and change.
My friend didn't forgive them for their past actions, but they're working on a *new* relationship.
My hope is that the brothers still have time to learn and actually learn to care about Charlize, or at least reflect on how toxic their father is and how toxic they were. It would be nice if the author made three-dimensional characters that are complex and have duality to them, even if it makes the readers uncomfortable because "oh no it's hard to categorize my feelings towards them now T-T".
Her brothers are ultimately just victims of the father's mentality - as most children are victims of whatever mentalities their parents hold, whether that be religious or political. Think the DPRK - citizens there only believe what they do due to the information they are being given.
I can never imagine what pain someone must go through when the love of their life dies giving birth, or how dependent that person must be on their spouse to become such a cold hearted man. If the father hadn't interpreted the situation so coldly, and had focused on loving Charlize - the last remnant of his wife, instead of viewing her as who took her away, I imagine the brothers would have been kind and compassionate as well. They're still young compared to the father, so I'm hoping they continue to change for the better.
I think they’ve both reached a stage where they recognize what they’re doing and why it’s wrong. The problem here is that they feel entitled to her love yet never feel obligated to give her the same love, they’re expecting. I do hope they finally realize what they’re doin.
I honestly don't believe they think that their actions were wrong in all honesty, considering all of their society (all of the upperclass) treated her the same. I think that the brother who sent her the letter doesn't realize that he's not automatically entitled for her love since now he's suddenly giving her attention. It's just such a strange and bizarre situation to be in.
I don't know, something just feels iffy about Japanese students idolizing Korean entertainment because like,, most Japanese schools don't teach Korean history. And by that I mean, a lot of Japanese students are unaware that Imperial Japan took control of Korea, made it illegal to speak Korean, burned libraries and museums and stole historical artifacts, sold women into sex slavery and men into labor slavery and still to this day haven't paid those still alive for their labor. It reminds me of Hetalia, where they wrote Korea to be obsessed with Japan and want to imitate him. A lot of Japanese people genuinely think that K-Pop was inspired by J-Pop and the like.
My aunt was a member of a Korean singing group after the Korean War, and she and other young women would be sent all over the world to perform traditional Korean dances and sing in Korean to make money and to help preserve their culture. There's a reason why K-Pop is so cutthroat, why Korea is so capitalist, and that's because after Japanese Imperialism, the only thing you could do to survive was make money and hold on tight to your culture.
It'd be like Native Americans creating a bunch of pop bands and then Europeans or white Americans idolizing it and wanting to imitate it.
Maybe I'm just extra sensitive because I grew up hearing stories about the atrocities that Imperial Japan committed, and I think I would be more okay with it if Japan didn't censor their history or actively refuse to admit their war crimes and pay Korea back, or if the entire boycott Japan event didn't happen, but like,, I don't know,, it's so weird to me.
Like, did y'all know Japanese people aren't even the native people to Japan?? Yeah, there's an entire indeginious race called the Ainu. It's just weird. Are there any other Koreans here who feel the same or even different? It's just really surreal to be seeing a Japanese comic about K-Pop and idolizing Korea when like,,, Japan fUCKED up Korea. And even recently continued to do so (making trade bans, working with North Korea to hack into South Korean government, refusing to unveil the comfort woman statue or pay back workers, etc).
you actually are giving us a good general information and history lesson
its good to keep ourselves informed about what happened in the world
before reading your comment i had no idea that japan had indigenous people and i recently discovered the existence of comfort women with asian boss i believe their youtube chanel name is
plus its nice to know facts that are not of the US, Canada or europe
plus we are hearing your opinion on a topic so its a plus
I'm glad you were able to learn some Eastern history! I'm Korean and French, so I was lucky to grow up hearing about both Eastern and Western history.
Japan has a really really ugly history we don't often learn about because of their entertainment (anime and manga). A lot of comfort women had to eat grass in order to survive their enslavement and would loose hair in addition to weight. It's sad that a lot of people in the world don't know about this, but also that a lot of Japanese people don't know about it. A Japanese government official wanted to teach more history in schools and was forced to quit because it was seen as not patriotic. Japan has a really awful history. The author of Attack on Titan is actually very nationalistic and very anti-Korea. Quite a lot of people are, actually. It's very sad.
yeah the game of politicians trying to erase history to preserve “honor”
I can understand the game since i’m lebanese, lets say that my government is less than ideal at this point but i’m glad that i have a dual citizenship (canada) and out of there studying
though i do want to go somewhere else after graduating for a while (maybe france since my mom is there)
and i believe the frensh did something similar to hide that they were a minority fighting against the nazis (les résistants) if i’m not wrong the rest were either pro vichy or just were bystanders
and i did feel like attack on titan had some sort of genocidic message/history in the plot
at first i was thinking it was the cold war period because of the wall or the jews genocide
but him being very nationalist and anti korean and then the role of japan in the war makes more sence since the eldians could be the koreans and marley the japanese or vice versa unless i’m reading too into it
honestly i’m so done with attack on titan and just want to arrive at the ending
I am very glad you have duel citizenship! France is a very nice country. I live in the West part of France, in Bretagne. We have wonderful Apple Cider and Caramel! I'm also a duel citizen - America and France! Right now I live in France but I was born and raised in the United States.
My grandmother lived in France during World War II and had PTSD from it. German soldiers lived in their houses with them. The fountains stopped running water and Nazis would stay in them. One time my grandmother looked outside and a bullet was shot at her window to force her to stay indoors.
The german soldier living with her had a niece my grandmother's age, and the two became best friends and penpals until they died.
A lot of French government workers worked with the Nazis, but the citizens climbed up the Eiffel Tower to break the elevator so Hitler would have to walk up the stairs. It was a really tough time. My grandma couldn't watch war movies during certain months. I think she was in college during that time.
A lot of French military people also worked with the Nazis. Even those who didn't still disliked Jews. Anti-semitism was very popular in a lot of places in Europe, and in America. My grandmother's family was left-leaning, and it was mainly conservatives who disliked the Jewish. So not everyone disliked Jewish people, but it was a common idea that Jewish people were "sneaky" or "evil." I never understood that. I grew up with Jewish friends and went to school on a Jewish temple - we actually got a bomb threat. I try to do my best to educate people about Jewish history so they don't get the wrong ideas.
I can't wait for Attack on Titan to finish! I have a lot of the merch and love the show. It's just sad that he hates Korea. And you're right, a lot of the roles of characters are referring to Korea versus Japan. But it's such a good story so I still read it :P
to be fair, historically Japan doesn't really like acknowledging their past mistake, and they also have a strong sense of patriotism... Most importantly tho, it's usually the westerners that exoticize and glorify Japan's history that have created this false narrative? Like a lot of asian countries have issues with Japan, but nobody international cares,,,
I... she's such a hypocrite and she's so stupid I swear to god. So when you had someone obsessively following you, it was okay for you to fake your death and endanger the lives of your friends either literally or via their money they would spend to help you(r fake injuries), but when someone else has someone obsessively following her, doing anything other than depending on a man to solve the issue is "too harsh?" Where was that mentality earlier? Aigoo cham-nam,,,
omg that's fucking gross. threatening to commit suicide because of a fictional character?????? I've attempted suicide multiple times before and it is not something to be used as leverage amongst people. it is a tragedy when you feel as if it's the only option or way out, and when the people who you love and love you catch on, it's awful because they will convince themselves it's their fault for "not trying hard enough." don't fucking gaslight people. i have friends who were in abusive relationships terrified of leaving because their partner would threaten suicide. it's a disgusting tactic. her father had genuine reasons for not letting her marry into the duchy and you're gonna commit suicide because you won't be able to be close to a kid??
god this is bringing me back to my childhood when i would binge the big 3. he has no right being this sexy. none of the students have any right to look as cool as they do either. i binged this all in one day. help me.
Me at the prince: bi king
me when tozen leaves: bye king :(
Poetic masterpiece
thank you, i try
You're welcome
I remember writing my stories as a teenager with one-dimensional characters that just acted as plot points to bring the protagonists together. It's a lot easier than making each character, even the villains, well fleshed out with sympathetic motives and understandable philosophies. I love how she just cringes at everything she did wrong and was like "god i was such a bad writer back then" mood.
I'm confused, they're Japanese, not Korean, so why do they want to be K-Pop idols?
K-Pop and J-Pop are very different but it takes a lot more to be a K-Pop star than a J-Pop star and so I don't understand how she, living in Japan, wants to become a K-Pop star? Does she just mean idol? Was it like a translation error because they thought K-Pop and J-Pop are the same?
There’s some k pop groups out there like twice who have a few Japan members so it isn’t that weird
*japanese
Were they born and raised in Japan? Even though I'm Korean I don't really pay that much attention to the lore of group members XD
pretty sure they are
damn i'm surprised the higher ups at the companies were okay with letting japanese born and raised girls into a kpop band. the younger generation i can see, but the older generation? maybe not all boomers are bad
As Yakuza.G said, there are a bunch of Japanese kpop idols as well as Chinese and Thai kpop idols and as for the Yalu tag that doesn’t make sense since this is clearly not a yaoi so you can directed that, I’m not sure how a tag can be a plot hole though
* yaoi
* disregard
It's because having a foreign/foreign-born member makes it easier (language-wise) if you want to promote in that country. Japan is the #2 music industry plus it's close by so it makes sense why they'd allow Japanese people to audition, train and become part of Korean idol groups. It didn't used to be that way but now it's harder to find a group that ONLY has native Korean members as K-pop tries to expand into multiple oversea markets.
I'm specifically talking about the political differences between Japan and Korea. If you're unaware, Japan took Imperial control over Korea, enslaving many of our people, making it illegal to speak Korean, burning our museums and controlling our schools. Granted, I don't live in Korea, I live in France, but the older Korean people in my family almost get PTSD when Japan is mentioned because that was such a recent event. So Japanese born and raised people seems really surprising to me because I would think the higher ups would only let Japanese-Koreans join.
I know about that but music companies don't care. Their goal is making money and spreading Korean culture overseas. Japan is a huge source of income, even if K-pop is still considered niche there. Korean idol groups almost always debut there. Even unknown groups can rank high on the Oricon music charts through fandom power alone. And it's not like they're hiring Japanese people to make Japanese music to sell in Korea. They're teaching these kids Korean and K-pop style music so I guess that makes it more palatable, I guess?
I mean South Korea is very capitalist. My grandma is all about money and is a huge hoarder because back when she was a kid it was a third world country. So it makes sense. Maybe I'm just a little bit shocked because of the Boycott Japan movement that happened relatively recently. I mean, people were straight up banning Japanese people from entering their businesses. And certain Koreans who owned businesses who were born in Japan were also boycotted. Hell, 7-11 was boycotted because they thought it was a Japanese business XD
I guess I'm shocked because that event is a bit recent in my mind.
Like the first thing I learned as a kid in school was when a stranger calls my name is to ignore them. (Or if they go up to me and try to get me to go with them somewhere for my parents, ask them for the secret code word i gave my parents to see if they're really my parent's friends.)
You would think that considering his mom was paranoid about his powers and made him move regularly she would have taught him about stranger danger before she left?