I don't think Param is disgusting, and neither is Mr. Han. They're both flawed individuals. So is Hwi, who took advantage of Param in the beginning to create a power imbalance to solve his feelings of inadequacy.
I think Param needs to communicate more with Hwi and tell him he's stuck in the middle of both of them. If Hwi decides he can't deal with that, then either he leaves or Param decides quickly who he chooses. They're adult men and being an adult is hard in terms of romances, nevertheless hard as a queer adult in a country where gay marriage isn't even legal yet and most older people look down on it.
Hwi deserves someone who is going to communicate with him and be transparent with him, so Hwi has the necessary information to cultivate a romance.
Mr. Han needs therapy, and to create better coping habits to deal with his issues. Nothing wrong with therapy, it's becoming more mainstream in Korea. As it should be.
Param needs to be more honest with everyone about how he feels and try to balance that rational and emotional mind. You're a hormonal mess, both from sex and working out. Take some time to yourself, calm down, access the situation and move along with your next plan.
Just,, communication and better coping mechanisms. That's all.
I'm genuinely wondering how they became like that. How cruel do you have to be to reject someone who helped you like that? Is that a norm for royalty in this setting? Is it just a learned trait from their families? Are they beyond redemption already, or is it something that's still happening in the current time? Are they fully aware of the real story, or are they being spread lies to in order to make Elene seem like a villain so they end up having no pity on her when they have to discard her?? I want more information dagnammit!
Ohoho~ more is to be revealed~ I doubt that will be soon, though ;)
Everyone in the comments is just jumping to conclusion about their personalities and I'm like please I just want the current information to access the situationnnnn
I want the mom to be the FL. She's so funny and independent. She's compassionate and caring for her son, and even for those she views as obstacles. I want stories just following her around on her business
I'm in a long distance relationship now with my boyfriend and I just want this when we meet up,, please,,,,,
same T.T
I commented briefly on the duality of man, and how "goodness" isn't objective, but some people, my word.
You either have people refusing to read his story, people being conflicted on how to objectively view his morality by weighing his trauma versus his sins, and people refusing to take into account anything that happened in this time line and treating him like the same emperor from the first life.
It's okay that he's a victim of abuse and an awful society and also did the same towards others. That is what happens to people. He has been hurt, yet also hurt others. People's actions do not determine their objective morality.
I totally agree with you but I think the people's distrust comes from what they already saw in novel and its about the course in the timeline which I won't reveal (only if you want ofc) that just adds another reason to hate him despite his shortcomings and trauma
Ooh please spoil :3
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When the queen went back in time she retained her memories but the red bitch, the Emperor and her sister did as well.
So separating the two versions of the Emperor because of different timelines is wrong since they are the same person (in the sense that he wasn't born again or doesn't remember his wrongdoings)
i personally think separating the two versions is practical for the fact that lucio in this timeline is indeed a different person. how? because rose is a different person, and because patrizia is in the scene. even in the previous timeline lucio was always wrapped around her stupid nail polished finger so we are actually free to say that rose was basically manipulating the empire at that time considering how extremely brainwashed lucio, the ruler, was. she could get him to do crap just by saying i love you and that's the difference with the current lucio. rose is incredibly conscious of her actions because she remembers her mistakes before. because of that, she fails to completely control lucio which lead him to have an inkling that she doesn't truly love him (which is true). that small thought became rose's downfall because it broke the blind love lucio was always under. plus, patrizia's presence only adds up to it. the meat incident and the hunting incident didn't happen in the previous timeline. those were the keypoints to lucio's character development because he's finally broken lose from rose's lies which, in itself, could've been rose's most powerful weapon had she paid more attention to it.
I understand where your coming from but I'm saying lucio then and lucio present are same are becuase he lived through both and by this I mean he remembers both timelines also rose as well so it creates an equal playing field for the characters. If I remember correctly rose was confused that Patricia became queen since Patricia sister was suppose it be so this hints that her memories remained.
no? lucio has no memories of the previous timeline actually?
she's not like *other girls*~~~
LOL
i'm also not like the other girls xoxoxxxx
i like pizza, play vieo games, and love DOGS LOL (⊙…⊙ )
omg your so like me so quirky and diffrent and wEiRd! we like twinz xoxoxoxp
oH EM GEE!!! i cannot believe that you like pizza, play games, and like dogs!!! that is soooo rare and unique to girls xoxoxo
Lol, i mean im not sure if it's rare but maybe widen ur horizon and know that it's very normal to like pizza, games and dogs. Yes ur special but what u like doesn't speak for ur personality, ill judge u according to what u show me and not what u tell me
i was pretty sure that my comment was visibly sarcastic, from the spelling of omg to the fact that,, pizza and video games and liking dogs are common. this entire comment thread is literal satire - i referred to the entire phenomenon using the abbreviation in the first post, which is typically used negatively, after all. Also I'd recommend not calling yourself a fujoshi since it's connotation is homophobic? Implying homosexuals are dirty and same sex relationships aren't normal and you're filthy for liking them.
wow you literally have 0 sense of picking up sarcasm. it's actually embarassing
welp this thread went downhill lol
Find me a man who is willing to hurt my friends and innocent people in order to find out who possibly hurt me,,, i just love seeing innocent people cry for my sake!!
The FL is most likely her child.
That's why her maids were able to erase themselves from everyone's memory - they had magic powers like her mothers, probably her apprentices.
The emperor can both be a victim of villainy and a villain himself. We are free to criticize the wrongdoings he did in this timeline - but recognize that in this timeline, he is already a different man from the first. He is willing to open up to others, sharing his pain with them. He is already a better man, aware of the sins that his first friend committed.
But is still important to remember that he was also abused in the first timeline and that was what led to him being manipulated into killing people.
So we have two separate timelines, both where he was abused, both where he was manipulated into becoming dependent on yet another woman in his life, but in the second he becomes well aware that his first and at the time, only friend, was not the idealized version he made up for himself to cope with his childhood trauma. In the first one, that illusion is never shattered, and he becomes more and more dependent because everyone else is presented as a villain to him that's using him, hence him killing an entire family.
Yes, he was a victim of an abusive mother, and a victim of his first ever friend, but he also hurt innocent people. Those two can and should exist at the same time.
Too many people will try to balance this out, this bad action when you add it to this good action makes him a neutral and thus redeemable, but we have to stop looking at people this way. Our actions when summed out don't define whether we are good or evil or neutral, they just make us what we are.
The emperor is who he is, a victim, and a villain, someone both capable of killing innocent people out of selfishness and manipulation. He is a complex character, and our inner turmoil when we think of him sHOULD be there. Because well written characters are complex, just as we are.
Readers, unable to see the kiss: darn streetlamp :(
me, an artist, who detests drawing kisses: NICE STREETLAMP
THE PAIN IT FEELS TO JUST DRAW SIDE VIEWS IN GENERAL.