Gross Panda February 9, 2020 11:31 am

Okay but have you all noticed how much the artist has improved??? Like comparing the first chapters to the latter ones is just wow, the expressions, the anatomy, lightning and shading, it’s all just so much better. I’m so impressed.

Gross Panda December 9, 2018 11:53 am

One got so much hotter once he “turned into” Eric damn

    imber December 9, 2018 12:04 pm

    witnout glases, blue eyes all lovey doveyy hee does look a lot hotter

    Gross Panda December 9, 2018 12:20 pm
    witnout glases, blue eyes all lovey doveyy hee does look a lot hotter imber

    and the hair too!

Gross Panda November 18, 2018 8:16 pm

I will make that fucking proffersor’s penIS a penWAS. He hurt my baby Youngmin, now he deserves to die, I’m so glad Jungwoo beat him up

Gross Panda November 1, 2018 9:16 pm

I liked the korean names:(((( And it’s making me so confused that they changed them hahahah

    Makoto‘s wifey November 3, 2018 7:02 pm

    Yes.. Me too.. It just shows Korean names r better lmfao

Gross Panda October 13, 2018 6:13 am

I can’t even finish this. It’s appalling. I think it’s fine to include rape in stories if it’s clearly shown that rape is something bad, something horrifying and life ruining. Minjae barely reacts when it’s happening, he even seems to enjoy it, though it’s obvious to be rape. (He does react later when he shows trauma, but that’s barely enough of a reaction of getting raped). And Hyeongjo is a full on rapist, not only before their relationship but during it! He literally keeps having sex with Minjae whilst Minjae is falling in and out of consciousness. I’m actually horrified by how many of you think this is some cute relationship, I don’t believe you can be in a non-toxic relationship with someone who’s raped you, especially not as many times as Hyeongjo had raped Minjae. Fuck this shit, it’s gross. #MeToo

Edit: Lol had appearantly already posted a similar topic on this manhwa last year

Also I apologize for my grammar and like all of my english, i’m still learning.

    Lady of diamonds October 12, 2018 9:07 pm

    I totally agree

    IronMango October 13, 2018 5:26 am

    Maybe calm yourself, there is no wrong reaction to rape, everyone is different. Do you want him to just fall apart and be a sobbing mess, is that the "right" way to deal with rape? Plus, the whole conscious, unconscious thing, Min wasn't upset with it, so it's hard to really call that rape.

    Gross Panda October 13, 2018 6:05 am
    Maybe calm yourself, there is no wrong reaction to rape, everyone is different. Do you want him to just fall apart and be a sobbing mess, is that the "right" way to deal with rape? Plus, the whole conscious, un... IronMango

    What I’m saying is that the author isn’t showing that rape is horrifying, that’s what i’m angry with. They just keep letting it pass. They just keep having Minjae be all fine with it, that’s a very unusual reaction to getting raped. Im not saying he should kick and scream during the act, but there should be some sort of reaction afterwards. How would Hyeongjo know that Min was fine with it during the whole unconscious, conscious thing? He doesn’t. Maybe Min was fine with it after it happened. But what if it acted out different? What if Min wouldn’t be fine with it? He couldn’t express anything when it happened, it would’ve been rape. That’s why Hyeongjo is a rapist.

    Gross Panda October 13, 2018 6:08 am
    Maybe calm yourself, there is no wrong reaction to rape, everyone is different. Do you want him to just fall apart and be a sobbing mess, is that the "right" way to deal with rape? Plus, the whole conscious, un... IronMango

    I mean, it’s barely even acknowledged that Min is getting raped. We as readers see it. Even if Min doesn’t understand that he got raped there should at least be some sort of reaction

    Nickname October 13, 2018 6:52 am
    Maybe calm yourself, there is no wrong reaction to rape, everyone is different. Do you want him to just fall apart and be a sobbing mess, is that the "right" way to deal with rape? Plus, the whole conscious, un... IronMango

    3/10 on your argument here, some big illogical fallacies.

    “Everyone is different, there is no wrong reaction to rape.” Um, yes there completely is? Every reaction is valid (which is what I think you actually mean) but that doesn’t mean every reaction is right and good for that person. E.g. “I just got raped and now I’m going to kill myself.” or something relevant, “I’m getting into a relationship with my rapist.” Panda’s point was that rape is a BAD thing, (yes rape is bad) and should be treated as such. But here rape was used as a necessary tool to kick the relationship into gear, which makes it I guess, not so much of a bad thing.

    “Do you want him to just fall apart and be a sobbing mess, is that the "right" way to deal with rape?“ So is getting into a relationship with your rapist the “right” way to deal with it then? Panda is completely right, it does romanticize rape. But lol what are you going to do, it’s BL, it’s not like y’all are reading for the plot and the healthy, functional relationships

    Gross Panda October 13, 2018 7:20 am
    3/10 on your argument here, some big illogical fallacies. “Everyone is different, there is no wrong reaction to rape.” Um, yes there completely is? Every reaction is valid (which is what I think you actuall... Nickname

    Thank you! That was such a good and clear explanation!

    yasuha October 16, 2018 2:31 am

    I think that Minjae is actually a masochist.
    In the first chapter Hyeongjo is threatening him and pushing him against the wall. As reaction, Minjae gets flustered and embarassed.
    In chapter 3, Hyeongjo threaten Minjae again, choking him and telling him how he looks like a girl. As reaction, Minjae gets hard.

    This seems different from the usual dumb romanticized rape yaoi.
    It seems like Hyeongjo is threatening Minjae, Minjae gets aroused by that, Hyeongjo gets aroused by the aroused Minjae, they have kinda rape sex.

    But everybody reacts different to rape, some are traumatized by it, others are more fine. And as a M, you can even enjoy it.
    (Not every M has the same kinks, but I can affirm that some M would enjoy rape)

    Gross Panda October 16, 2018 6:51 pm
    I think that Minjae is actually a masochist.In the first chapter Hyeongjo is threatening him and pushing him against the wall. As reaction, Minjae gets flustered and embarassed.In chapter 3, Hyeongjo threaten M... yasuha

    I suppose he could be, I just think the whole non-consensual thing would still be traumatic for most Ms. Of course everybody reacts differently towards rape, of course some people are more fine. I just don’t agree with how the author portrayed it all, because I kinda think you have a responsibility if you’re including rape to portray it as something bad. Even if the author meant for Minjae to be an M.

    Anonymous December 19, 2018 7:15 am

    You know, I think he doesn't know what he is feeling in the first sex scenes. Because he doesn't admit feelings. But lest one (after he met hyung in the flat full of guys) he hates it.

    Anonymous December 19, 2018 7:17 am

    Oh and also, I think they fell in love because of the past, not because of the rape. Rape was a symbol of their twisted feelings. Kinda

Gross Panda May 23, 2017 4:27 am

They're in such a toxic relationship, Hyeongjo is honestly so controlling and manipulative, like Minjae wasn't even allowed to smile at Jinhan.
Everyone in the comments are so content with their relationship too, calling it cute and stuff. I honestly feel bad for Minjae and I think it's scary that everyone thinks a relationship like this is okay.

And please do not misunderstand, I actually really like this manhwa, I just think it's weird how the majority sees their relationship.

Edit: If you disagree with what I've said please tell me, I'm very interested to hear what other people think. Of course if you agree with me your comment is also welcome and appreciated.

    annabis May 21, 2017 11:18 pm

    Oh, thank you! I think the same. Me reading the comments: O-O. Its fine if you like the manhwa but you can define their blondie behavior as anything but cute or romantic.

    xisue May 22, 2017 6:33 am

    Exactly the same.
    I felt so weird cause I was like wow they're so cute. Obviously the author can write it well enough like that but then what even happened with the first 2/3 of the story

    Gross Panda May 22, 2017 1:19 pm
    Oh, thank you! I think the same. Me reading the comments: O-O. Its fine if you like the manhwa but you can define their blondie behavior as anything but cute or romantic. annabis

    Yes yes yes! Like I really don't have any problems with at all with the story and the characters, but their relationship isn't cute or romantic, even though Hyeongjo is reflecting he's still being a manipulative and shitty boyfriend.

    annabis May 22, 2017 1:24 pm
    Yes yes yes! Like I really don't have any problems with at all with the story and the characters, but their relationship isn't cute or romantic, even though Hyeongjo is reflecting he's still being a manipulativ... Gross Panda

    Exactlly. Blondie give me chills.

    Gross Panda May 22, 2017 1:30 pm
    Exactly the same.I felt so weird cause I was like wow they're so cute. Obviously the author can write it well enough like that but then what even happened with the first 2/3 of the story xisue

    I was pretty creeped out by their relationship from the beginning to be honest. It got pretty cute somewhere in the middle of the story though, but then in the end it was just kinda disturbing.

    xisue May 22, 2017 10:28 pm
    I was pretty creeped out by their relationship from the beginning to be honest. It got pretty cute somewhere in the middle of the story though, but then in the end it was just kinda disturbing. Gross Panda

    Yeah that's why I felt weird about it being cute after all that stuff happened

    Fujoshi-sama May 23, 2017 12:48 am

    I agree with you ( ̄へ ̄)Hyeongjo is very possessive, if I'm Minjae, I will be extremely annoyed. I hope there will be more progress to their relationship but unfortunately, it has already ended ╥﹏╥. Tho I find it irritating, they're so fucking cute together, I love them all the same (≧∀≦) I'm just glad they're happy.

    Gross Panda May 23, 2017 4:39 am
    I agree with you ( ̄へ ̄)Hyeongjo is very possessive, if I'm Minjae, I will be extremely annoyed. I hope there will be more progress to their relationship but unfortunately, it has already ended ╥﹏... Fujoshi-sama

    I don't think I'd be annoyed if I was Minjae, because I'd probably just think that Hyeongjo was doing it because he loves me so much, and it seemed like that's just what Minjae thought too, and that's kind of the problem. I mean just because someone loves you they can't do whatever. I really don't think a relationship like this will last very long, but it'd be good if it became a healthy relationship and lasts, because as you said they are very cute together.

Gross Panda May 10, 2017 2:36 pm

That Bum though.


(sorry)

Gross Panda May 9, 2017 12:18 pm

I love manga that are realistic in an unrealistic way, such as this manga. Even if there's monster and stuff it actually feels like it's how people would react and act if something similar were to happen in real life. I mean in this manga they characters are so compact and they show feelings that are relatable to the readers and their actions too.
It's just interesting to read something so well put together.

    Sushii June 9, 2017 11:31 pm

    Yeah I know What u mean. I feeling ir too. You probably would like the manga Gantz

    Gross Panda June 10, 2017 4:14 pm
    Yeah I know What u mean. I feeling ir too. You probably would like the manga Gantz Sushii

    Yes! I love Gantz so much!!

Gross Panda May 8, 2017 5:02 pm

I honestly like this story a lot, but when it comes to the ending, not so much.
I feel like the ending was somehow flat and empty, in comparison to the rest of the story it was honestly disappointing because how "basic" it was. It just didn't feel like it fit the rest of the story. I mean, it could've shown more of the struggle of dating someone who previously was in an abusive relationship or something, like spice it up (lol), it would've made it more interesting.
But I do thing that it's an acceptable ending, but I just expected more from such a great story.

Gross Panda May 8, 2017 4:49 pm

I really hope Usagi is the uke. Cause in manga it's rarely the uke who's the sadist, but in real life there are (obv) uke that are sadists. And it's the same with masochist being seme. It would just be kinda interesting to switch it up for once and to show that it works either way or something like that.

Like at least give us one manga where the sadist isn't the seme just cause he's a sadist. It's getting kinda predictable. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    hachihachi March 10, 2018 5:53 am

    Eh,it's even more predictable that the shorter and "weaker" looking one ends up to be the uke if anything.I'm sorta sick of always seeing the shorter and more moe ones immediately being ukes while the taller ones semes...I honestly really,really wished that usagi is the seme cus it would offer much more of a dynamic,I know it won't turn out that way tho :/ Btw there are many mangas where the semes are masochistic,there are tags and lists in mangago for that XD

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