I LOVE Yuyang to death and I will support him no matter what, but what he said to LiHuan really broke my heart. It might just be me, but I personally feel like this is one of those times where Yuyang is just spouting words to hurt him bc he was hurt himself ?? I believe that initially when they met, Yuyang was acting nice to LiHuan because yes, it was his job as a military training counselor or whatever-- but he left out the part where he gradually grew interest in him. I remember some pages where he thought to himself how cute LiHuan was, and when LiHuan beat up those guys that were sexually harassing Yuyang and they patched each other up from being injured.. uwaa~ (▰˘◡˘▰) .. but yea, I think he's just hurt and his mind isn't in the wrong place. our bois need to have a TALK
Plus he was really drunk so there wasn’t any filter and he blurted the first thing that came to mind.
I am really hoping that he sobers up and gets rational real soon
No its all becase yuyang is really drunk
We been knew lmfaoo
you can tell the author really enjoys her work with all her little cameos in the manhua lmaoo (▰˘◡˘▰)
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Hyesung gets impregnated but the baby is 3 weeks old. That means he got impregnated when he forced himself on Dojin and not the other way around. I REPEAT. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
It's still a rape scene :v well, at least daddy wants to settle down his life with momy xd ╮(￣▽￣)╭
chill lmaoooo
yea its still rape unfortunately ://
HEEJAE IS FAAAALLING IN LOOOOVEEEEE. Well, I can't say i'm surprised
and jisuh is so not ready for love :B
I READ THE RAWS WITH MY HANDFUL KNOWLEDGE OF KOREAN. HERE'S A DETAILED EXPLANATION. TRIGGER WARNING: RAPE, ABUSE, VIOLENCE ETC. IT'S A PRETTY WILD SEASON GUYS. SPOILERS:
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>The next several chapters consist of Shiwoo and his ex(don't know his name sorry) meeting up and getting together, having sex.. sex.. more sex and more sex behind Yujin's back. Shiwoo resists a few times but ultimately ends up staying with his ex.
>(PAST)The flashbacks also occur around this time. We begin to find out how Shiwoo and his ex met through the acting agency and began as enemies at first, irritating each other but they gradually grew feelings for each other. Shiwoo and his ex end up getting in an argument and Shiwoo leaves with a mysterious yet dangerous man that his ex warns him about but he leaves with him anyway, thus resulting in Shiwoo getting raped and used by sex toys consistently. Shiwoo's ex saves him but for some reason(??) Shiwoo continues to return to dangerous men and get himself taken advantage of many times, this leads his ex growing incredibly angry with him and even ABUSING Shiwoo as well, choking him, violent sex, sex toys etc. (yes the rape flashback was of Shiwoo's ex. that bastard smhh)
>We return to the present and Shiwoo begins to miss Yujin. Long story short Shiwoo and his ex continue their affair but Shiwoo accidentally calls Yujin's name during sex and his ex grows incredibly angry, beginning to abuse and choke Shiwoo AGAIN. This turns into Shiwoo returning back to Yujin but when Yujin finds out about this, he also gets incredibly angry, rips off Shiwoo's clothes to find all the bruises and bite marks on his body and rejects Shiwoo's affection and leaves him.
>Shiwoo returns to his ex(??? bc why not abuse is fun i guess???) and he consistently gets tormented and sexually abused by him. My guess is because he is so psychologically fucked up that he is sex crazed. Yujin finds out he is getting hurt continuously by his ex and goes to rescue him. (very graphic scene where a bunch of toys are put inside Shiwoo, Shiwoo in pain etc etc.) Overall, Yujin is still upset and leaves Shiwoo.
>Shiwoo's ex finds him bc Shiwoo is avoiding him and begins to torment him again, strapping him down, choking, sexual abuse etc. Yujin comes and finds him AGAIN (but here's the worst part ladies and gentlemen.) Yujin takes part in the sex and they all have a violent threesome and double penetrate Shiwoo painfully. However, Yujin realizes that Shiwoo's ex is hurting him and yells for him to stop. Shiwoo's ex says something like "Why would you wanna be gentle with the one who hurt you?" and Yujin is basically like yea you're right and they continue the sex.
>Shiwoo attempts suicide and ends up in the hospital. Yujin meets up with him and they hug and Shiwoo cries in his arms. However, Yujin makes it clear that this is the final time that they will meet and he leaves for good. Shiwoo goes back home super upset, finds his ex waiting for him and he begins to beat him violently then rape him. Shiwoo's classmate friend and Yujin find Shiwoo's ex doing this and beat the crap out of him, saving Shiwoo for the final time. Shiwoo's classmate friend grows angry with Yujin bc he keeps abandoning him and other things while Shiwoo is physically mentally and emotionally disturbed by all the abuse and cannot take even the smallest acts of touch. But for some reason?? Yujin forces himself on Shiwoo and begins to anally penetrate him with his fingers, Shiwoo begins to cry bc hes remembering all the abuse but Yujin says something like: "It's okay, you don't have to think about it. Just think of me."
>to be continued. (ends ch. 61.)
Bloody hell, I thought Yujin was meant to be a "good guy" too, but it turns out he is just as bad as all the other men in Shiwoo's life.
So do you think the story is turning out a bit like "Hogu Hagyeongsu/ An easy target" where the new boyfriend Dong-hyuk also becomes a bit of a bastard, and Kyung-soo rather than blame the rapists/abusers blames himself for turning people that way?
I don’t think he’s same as Hyun
Though he’s not the most innocent person
But I kinda understand him...and Hyun. But I can’t really say they’re doing the right thing,and neither Siu is doing the right thing
I think Siu needs to stop fucking for a second and think about who he wants to be with
And I think Yujin had the anxiety of losing someone he’s loved for years all the time,even before this, I know they weren’t in a relationship and that’s why I blame Yujin for,but I cannot help sympathizing with him
Also,it’s a fact that he turned those two that way
He saw Hyun with a random girl,not knowing what’s their relationship and the first thing he decided to do was sleeping with someone else ( also he’s used to sleeping with different people for fame )
And I think you misunderstood one part
When they were in the hospital,Shiwoo told Yuin he loves Hyun and wants to be with Hyun,Yujin didn’t leave him
And it wasn’t Yujin abandoning Shiwoo
If Shiwoo wants Yujin,then he can stop being greedy for others
It’s not the first time
He abandoned Yujin when he confessed for eight years ( even though he had feelings for him) but yujin was the one who kept coming back to him ( but he shouldn’t have ) and AGAIN,He abandoned him again by confirming he loves Hyun
But the perception of "turning" people into abusers was Kyung-soo's and it was based on his own trauma, anxiety etc rather than his behaviour/personality being used as an excuse or justification for him to be abused by all the men in his life. Same as with this series, Shiwoo might not be 100% likeable at times, but that still doesn't justify the behaviour of all the men who raped, blackmailed him and abused him. Unlike with with "An easy target", I'm not sure this series is conveying properly that the rapist is always the one in the wrong, even if the victim somehow "provokes" them by flirting with others.
But still he’s not the most innocent character i’ve seen
Regardless if you think a character is "innocent" or not, the fact remains is that they are still a victim of abuse. We are provided with a narrative usually as to how the victim and abuser feels about their situation, which obviously can be unreliable as one person is attempting to justify being a criminal, and in Kyung-soo's case he perceived that he deserved to be abused. None of this removes from the fact, that rape and sexual assault is still a crime even if Shiwoo was perceived by his ex to "provoke" him.
It is
But we can’t deny the fact that he used their feelings
I’m not justifying Hyun and Yujin’s actions
But I don’t justify Shiwoo either
Both sides are same to me
Σ(っ°Д °;)っ Shoot! Sorry, i actually meant to give you a thumbs up... you just helped me swerve from the disaster that is this manga! (〜￣△￣)〜
Absolutely! When I was 10 chapters in I IMMEDIATELY thought of "an easy target" which I really hated lmao. There's not constant rape all the time as much as that manhua, but the stories are very similar with dark and twisted themes.
I 100% agree. I thought Shiwoo was pretty unwise at times when he kept returning to his ex with knowledge that he'll only be beaten and raped. He got himself in that situation, but he still does not deserve it. He did not deserve any of the abuse he was inflicted on by ANYONE. And anyone who cannot see that is idiotic.
Gosh this manga is fvcked up ╥﹏╥
Opinions are different
And not everyone sympathize with him
I can’t really feel bad for him
Because he was an idiot who kept chasing after his ‘rapist’ and violent ex,so he’s just getting what he should get after doing something that stupid
If he knows he’s going to be beaten and raped,then he can stop coming back to him.easy,no trouble.
That’s why I think he deserves this
cringy. i think ill drop dis. i cant read something like dat. smh.
I'm not sympathizing. You are saying no matter what this man despite being a clearly flawed and psychologically scarred character he deserves rape and abuse? You're saying a person deserves rape and abuse. Ever heard of Stockholm syndrome? It's a mental illness where an individual returns to their captor/abuser despite the inflicted harm, despite acknowledging that its a dangerous situation. Now, i'm not saying Shiwoo has this but regardless you're saying he deserves the rape, the violent abuse, the denial of orgasm, breathe etc. LOL O K
Because he keeps chasing after his ex despite knowing the fact he’s going to be raped
And if he’s mentally ill,he can get help
after what i read now, i'm going to drop this manga for sure!! i only cept reading bc i thought that yujin and shiwoon would have a happy way to their relationship, but now with his ex, the abuse and threesome ... it's too much for me!!!
Unpopular Opinion: Alright. I know that Shiwoo is being a little thottie all naughty right now, but he just returned to the person he loved so deeply. Doesn't that make so much sense? He's been hung up on him ever since they broke up. Also, just to remind, Shiwoo and Yujin are NOT in a real relationship, they're only sex partners. Also Shiwoo told him that he would not give him his heart and warned him a couple of times-- however, that said, I still believe he is stringing Yujin along, which is obviously fucked up.
1. Does that mean Shiwoo isn't wrong in some way? Of course not, he's a broken and fucked up character.
2. Do I think yujin and shiwoo belong together? OF COURSE
3. Does yujin deserve someone better despite loving shiwoo only? ABSOLUTELY !!!!!
Don't expect too much from a manhwa that's heavily sex based. If you want REAL BL romance, check out my reading list. ;) anyways..
is his ex the one who raped him ?? ahhhh im so confused
Chapter 30? Cause yep, that's his ex...
Im confused as well
Like so the ex manager rape him and then he fell for his rapists or what?
yall i can’t even begin to tell you how dedicated i am. i read this whole fucking thing in the middle of history class WITH the erotic scenes
I just LOVE how fans criticize Hyesung's character for being "bitchy" and "childish" and "annoying" for getting RAPED but don't criticize Dojin for raping and impregnating Hyesung to get him to stay with him.
lol it wasnt the rape that led to the pregnancy.
we been knew, but he was still raped lol
It's hard to criticize Dojin when he's just so sweet sometimes and most of the time, he treats hyesung kindly and cares about him all the time. I'm just pretty surprised that he's able to survive this long without kicking hyesung out of his home. And tho some people didn't like hyesung, I personally and surprisingly likes him quite a lot actually. Maybe bcuz he's kinda cute and adorable I guess ╮(￣▽￣)╭ tho I would say Dojin's my favourite character whether in if you hate me that much or love illusion.
Okay first off, people called him "bitchy" "childish" and "annoying" not bitchy childish and annoying "for getting raped". You should have just said your mad at dojin for raping him. Also hyesung raped dojin so it's a loss on both sides.
Lmao come to think of it, Hyesung also raped Dojin and Dojin raped Hyesung so it's a win win lol. Some people are too focused when the uke gets raped but when the seme gets wronged, they would say it's no big deal. Like u guys said "RAPE IS RAPE" so u guys should know that seme shouldn't rape uke and uke shouldn't rape seme.
Really? But your the one saying rape is a win-win for the both sides, that's a little disturbing.
I know right (⊙…⊙ )
Haha, I should have phrase it another way huh? Hmm... Maybe something like both got their own retaliation. And besides ur being too paranoid~ it's not disturbing if u ever think of it in another way ╮(￣▽￣)╭. Win-win is a term where it kinda says something like both gets what they deserve or just fair. U can search on google. Helps all the time
Honestly I know rape is bad regardless who did it, but I just think people are taking it out context in this manwha and treating it as a "theme or genre" now. They act like as if Hyesung or Dojin was emotionally scarred after the rape. It's like when people go on this topic section they feel like need to mention it.
That's still wrong in my opinion that's basically revenge
Nuh uh bro maybe sis~ It's like if u do bad things, bad things will befall u. Duh... retaliation not revenge (〜￣△￣)〜
Retaliation and revenge have the same meaning
It has the same meaning but also has different meaning at the same time. One word have many different meanings and it depends on what u would like for it to mean. What I meant for retaliation is that if you do bad things, bad things will befall you.
You are basically saying an "eye for an eye" then, which isn't how most justice systems work, nor do social norms. Saying Hye-sung "deserved' to be raped because he assaulted Dojin is just so wrong, also, when it comes to who was "harmed" out of the two experiences, Hye-sung was left with pregnant which if omegaverse is anything like the real world will cause life long changes to his body, as well as having to deal with the emotional trauma concerning falling pregnant through rape and his identity issues in regards to his omega status.
Since when did I say or mention anything about "Hyesung deserves to be rape bcuz he assaulted Dojin"? Aren't u just making conclusions urself?
And besides victims of rape are still victims of rape and Dojin is a victim too. Wouldn't u get emotional trauma when the guy who u took in suddenly mounted u and raped u? If this wasn't Dojin, the guy would be left in trauma and be too disgusted to do anything sexual cuz he would feel like every person he had sex with is the person who raped him. And mental problem caused physical problem too and would cause the guy to be in pain when having sex when in actuality, he's not in pain. The trauma goes both ways whether ur the one mounting or being mounted.
Read back through your own posts. No one is denying that Hye-sung assaulted Dojin when he was in his "heat" mode, but that incident was not premeditated nor malicious. Dojin literally says he wants to rape Hye-sung in order to make him pregnant and "tie him down" to him. In all of these occasions, Dojin was always the one with the power and who retained control, even if yes, Hye-sung could be criticised for "mounting" Dojin without his consent.
Your original comment argued that Hye-sung deserved to be raped because of his past actions with Dojin, this is what drew criticism and offense but I do understand that different country's do have an "eye for an eye" approach to justice such as for example having the death penalty which obviously can influence social norms. My perspective is from a place where restorative justice is the norm. You can't justify someone being harmed just because they brought possible harm to others, that just makes you the one in the wrong and doesn't solve anything.
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/3076947/
Just to add:
If someone slaps u, u definitely slaps them back right? Why? Bcuz u think it's fair to return it. Everything depends on what u think of it.
I 100% agree, I love both the characters! Dojin is just so so sweet to Hyesung and he genuinely loves and cares for him. He will make a great father alpha for their baby <3
I genuinely would NOT characterize what Hyesung did to Dojin was rape. This is the problem with this generation, people throw around the word rape like it's nothing when its actually a very horrendous and inhumane deed you can do on a person that strips away their innocence and honor. I believe when Hyesung was in heat, he came onto Dojin and began to orally pleasure him but it was visibly evident that Dojin was beginning to feel it. He is MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger than Hyesung and he could've easily pushed him away. He specially said.. "why am I feeling this way for an omega?" and then he took the lead with the sex and started to anally pleasure Hyesung with his fingers and then he put his dick inside him like lmfaooo are you a fucking idiot? No offence but literally go back and reread the fucking story. And I understand why you would think readers often take the uke's side in stories but I am not one of those people, I am not bias. Both characters are fairly flawed and have their own faults, but Hyesung was raped, not Dojin.
Like how can you fucking throw around the crime as horrendous as rape with little knowledgement of the actual topic lmfaooo some people are so ignorant it actually pisses me off. HOW can you say Dojin was raped when AFTER he got orally pleasured HE JUMPED ON HYESUNG AND BEGAN TO FUCK HIM. HOW ? I KNOW you aren't that stupid.
I genuinely apologize if I offend you but what the fuck
You guys are both fucking wrong and it pisses me off lmfaoo. You CANNOT throw around the title/crime rape like it's nothing. It's VERY serious. HYESUNG is capable of rape, but he did not rape Dojin. He came onto Dojin and Dojin JUMPED on Hyesung right after he was orally pleasured and began to fuck him. You're telling me that a person that was just raped is capable of doing that ??????? like ????? are you ??? OKAY ???
Okay I find it funny how you missed one important detail. CONSENT!!! When it comes down to it regardless if "Dojin is much much bigger," or hyesung was in heat, or unconscious or whatever, it is about consent, the moment that person did penetration without CONSENT it was rape. It feels as though you failed to understand that. And I'm not throwing rape around like it's nothing. You say you're not being biased but I strongly disagree with that statement.
well not unconcious
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_is_an_illusion/uu/d_chapter-10/pg-1/
No, u idiot. They meant this part when Hyesung raped Dojin. Chapter 9 and 10
Did you read the whole chapter idiot?
Actually I could care less at this point
I wasn't saying that to u. Can't u see who I tagged?
well, it kinda is, because he jumped Dojin without his consent. ever heard how woman btw, omega in heat needs sexual release^^
Not sure if this is directed at me, but I never said Hye-sung raped Dojin, that was the user called Luca who made that claim.
Sorry
It's not directed at you sweetie, I was defending you. I was talking to Luca you're all good.
Consent IS apparent in this sex scene through body language. There are many different forms of consent and consent WAS exhibited through these chapters. You mean to tell me that the first and key factor when Dojin attempted to stop Hyesung from orally pleasuring him, his first words weren't "wait, that's not how you do it... ah whatever.." like ????///??? I think what essentially is going through Dojin's head right now is less of "i'm being raped, i don't want this!" and more of "what the fuck this guy is really horny right now. i need to get him his medicine cause he's in heat!" and "whoa this omega is acting way out of character even though he's in heat!!!" The second time he stops Hyesung is because he's afraid that he'll get pregnant: "wait! what if you get pregnant ??" instead of thinking "shit I don't want this.." he's thinking "what the fuck this guy is insane,, because he's in heat!!" WHAT DOES DOJIN DO NEXT ????? He wraps his hands around Hyesung and begins to bounce him on his dick before POUNCING on him and begin to fuck him. RIGHT before he thinks "I don't want to take it out.." PLEASE !!!! PLEASE !!!!!! TELL ME how this is fucking rape. Because rape is much fucking worse and inhumane than this (acknowledgement that there are different types of rape) because I GENUINELY don't fucking understand how this is RAPE. SEXUAL A S S A U L T. I think you're forgetting the factor that yes, Dojin wasn't thinking of sex initially at the moment, but once it began to occur HE WENT ALONG WITH IT.
You're telling me that after Dojin was raped he had the fucking bravery and mind set to pounce on Hyesung and take the lead in the bedroom. Having the AUDACITY to go out of his way, stop and put on a condom on before finishing with Hyesung.
Continuing to fuck Hyesung and wrapping his arms around him, begging him for more because he got raped... like that's what all victims do after being raped and forced upon.
Omg........ Dojin said "no" but Hyesung penetrated without consent that is called rape and or sexual assault. What is it that your not getting about this. Stop with all these excuses (heat, medicine, pleasure, rape victims, etc...) whatever happened after doesn't matter just that at that point in time it was rape/sexual assault.
It looks like Hye-sung sexually assaulted Dojin whilst he was under the influence of his heat. In this situation Dojin had the power to physically stop him, which he does in order to put on a condom. In comparison, Dojin rapes Hye-sung, he premeditates this , has no consent from Hye-sung and the goal was to get him pregnant to forcibly "tie him down". Basically, it's not to say that Hye-sung's actions regarding their first night in Dojin's house weren't wrong, but the aren't comparable to what Dojin later did .
HYESUNG ???? PENETRATED ?????? Do you got the fucking uke and seme confused? HYESUNG NEVER PENETRATED DOJIN I'm sure ??? we would've ???? noticed ?????? Hyesung penetrated Dojin ??? I would LOVE to see that. PLEASE link me the page where HYESUNG PENERATES and RAPES Dojin.
I REALLY think you're getting the characters names confused hun. Hyesung(the uke) had NEVER once penetrated Dojin(the seme). To keep it simple, he had orally pleasured him but had not PENETRATED bc his penis is too small, I mean even Dojin said that.