Why does this site never label anything right. This needs a rape tag. Granted it’s an abo universe I should have expected it by the first chapter after all.
Is anyone going to mention how twice SeungTaek has violently assaulted someone where they’ve been hospitalized, with one resulting in amnesia and theoretically could have caused death from the the blunt head trauma. Granted the second time was in self defense, SeungTaek stil has some serious anger issues but hides behind a demure diligent façade. I won’t even lie as much of an annoyance Inbeom is, no one deserves to be treated like that. Honestly is makes me even angrier that Kyubin even likes Seungtaek’s so much when Seungtaek did absolutely nothing when Kyubin took the fall for him twice and thereafter has lost even his childhood home because the money needed to pay the settlement towards Inbeom’s recovery was paid by Kyubin’s family so it left Kyubin with less to his inheritance. Has SeungTaek ever acknowledge that this was a direct result of his actions or ever apologized for it. Just them being together theoretically shouldn’t be enough of an apology but I digress. Secondly Imbeom having issues where he felt it necessary to drop out of school and be a delinquent with a middle school education due to need to recover. Tbh a lot of bad things that have happened to either of Imbeom or Kyubin has been a result of SeungTaek’s anger, with SeungTaek just carrying on with his life trying to get into an elite school at the time. I know this is fiction but just thinking about the scenarios involving these three boys really really makes me dislike SeungTaek if you took it at face value.
damn you're right. I really hope all the issues will get resolved and seungtaek's anger will be adressed. Also I kind of like that seungtaek is so agressive as a character? It kind of makes him more interesting, like this good student, perfect child but with anger issues (maybe some of it because of internalized homophobia? maybe just the pressure). But yeah, the whole thing seems unresolved, it would be good to have some apology or a closure or something. We will see
Did you forget that Seungtaek was bullied by the guy he beat up? Plus they live in a homophobia society.
which is why i want the story to revert back to them soon. it felt incomplete? like, when they got together, it's sure, cool, cute, and tbh i really do love it—but seungtaek's part of the story just had something missing. this was probably it :/ there was a reason i loved seungtaek so much, and the first reply to this comment just explains it lol
Read chapter 11 again. SeungTaek snaps after Imbeom was bad mouthing how privileged SeungTaek was to other classmates. He wasn’t spreading rumors or technically bullying he was insulting SeungTaek being perfect, and with SeungTaek feelings in regards to having to constantly live up to other expectations, SeungTaek likely completely snapped and took out his anger and frustration on Imbeom who broke the camels back with his comments. SeungTaek is still to blame for his lack of control in handling his anger which is obviously a result of his repressed upbringing.
Granted you could still call what did Inbeom bullying if you’re of the belief that gossiping is a form of bullying which I can and will heartedly say it is given circumstances, but in this case I think Inbeom opened his big mouth and paid dearly for it in a way that did not justify SeungTaek brutal violent reaction.
all this tea and yet seunghee is the most disliked.
i actually adore Seunghee because he's sooooo realistic and is such A MOOD. BUT most just either want a whiny childlike easily manipulated "uke", an overly agreeable human doormat "uke", or the the delinquent tsundere bitch in heat "uke". I just want a normal guy who's finding it hard to be gay and is finding it hard to trust falling in love while navigating highschool, literally the experience of any queer teenager and just soo relatable. Whatever happened to just wanting relatable realistic characters to root for?
I love seunghee too, he's so real. I love how he's distant and sometimes mean and not in a typical yaoi asshole way but because he doesn't know how to deal with people being nice to him. Havent we all been there? And i love how the author is showing the initial awkwardness of a relationship, they are not Just suddenly crazy in love because they decided to date
same here! i feel like he’s the most realistic and there’s a reason why he is the way he is which we’ve all seen. not to mention that he represents a lot of men i’ve seen who enjoy women’s fashion
i think seunghee is just a breath of fresh air and that’s why i love him so much
Wow Haero is straight up toxic. I can understand internalized homophobia, low self-esteem, and unrequited love written characters, but the extent of how far Haero will run away from his problems and the mental gymnastics he performs in order to ignore just how awful he is or how he repeatedly treats people around him- his so called love- is almost amazing in how self absorbed he is in his self made tragedy. Beside that how Don has little to no back bone when it came to catering to Haero at every turn is just so terrible to witness, to the point as a person Don has fundamentally changed into the worse version of himself trying to hold onto this truly toxic friendship. We know they'll end up together but honestly this has to be one of the most toxic friends to lovers plots i've seen in a while.
honestly though! in the beginning they kept treating don as if he was the bad guy lol
No truer words have been spoken, I want them together but they are just so toxic I can’t even anymore.
Agree !! This story really is depressing. It make me love and hate it at the same time （/TДT)/
Does anyone get annoyed when authors use abusive parents as comedic relief? The my child is hurt so let’s hurt them some more because it’s funny? It’s in such bad taste even more so when you give your villain character the origin story of being a child abuse victim hence his callous actions. The next chapter you we see a parent hitting their ailing son repeatedly because what it’s funny now? That kind of slap stick humor simply isn’t funny folllowing the reveal of such a serious character narrative and even cheapens the importance of it.
True, but it is obviously exagerated for comedic relief. In truth, I doubt she would do more than a light slap (that doesn't hurt at all) for the sake of making sure he understands. She thinks that he tripped on his own - in other words, he was careless, so she would rather make this lesson stick, than him dying from carelesness. Besides, she obviously loves him, while that other guy's father was simply abusive.
Sure, I would never hit my kid, nor is it normal in our culture, but in asia hitting a disobedient child as a disciplinary action is still all too common, so to them the woman's actions aren't as outrageous as to us. Well, at least to the older generation it isn't.
I think YOU are the one who is mistaking abusive practices as comedy since obviously the author did not ever point out any abusive practices as something funny.
I don't think the author meant to use abusive parents as comedic relief. And that wasn't abuse in the first place. She was just smacking him because he had caused her worry.
Parents in Asia find it normal to discipline their kids physically. It's a cultural difference, and it's something that I've experienced, and I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing either.
If that’s the case then it’s a cultural lost in translation occurrence here for a western reader. I personally just don’t find it endearing hitting your child who’s in the hospital. Moreso for the audience to see this after they’ve read severe child abuse and assume this is meant as light hearted relief. It’s fall flat if you take it at face value and worse as I said before devalues the point that hitting a child as really abuse rather than the “love” our villain was provided. I understand what the author was trying to convey but again the scene is a moot point.
I can understand where you're coming from, it's kinda the reason I find the tsundere trope distasteful.
I actively loathed the tsundere trope as well for this reason because it excuses everything underneath the sun as forms of tough love.
The author never used any form of abuse as comedy. She clearly portrayed the abuse of Jiho as something bad. Slapping your kid out if worry, isn't equal to abuse. And for Asians, that's many times the norm, slapping someone out of worry. You see it in Asian shows swell and its reality, and not particularly something bad. Connecting a normal Asian practice to ABUSE is ridiculous. That's clearly not the case and you are overexaggerating . The author clearly didn't portray it as abuse, and most people reading it have the knowledge about this Asian way of parenting, not the authors fault that some people who weren't raised like this and don't get it. Next time please try to understand cultures differ, and so comedy can aswell. (=・ω・=)
i think it's just a light slap, just like asians mothers do when they worried
The tsundere trope is a whole other beast. I can somewhat get a parent giving their misbehaving child a smack for acting like an idiot, but tsunderes? Fuck tsunderes. They beat up their love interest/friends for no valid reason whatsoever. These characters are simply agressive maniacs with anger management issues that would earn themselves exactly 0 friends with their attitude. They are no better than bullies and I hate bullies. Harems, oversexualised lolis and half-naked G-cup ladies are up there with the tsunderes in my "absolutely hated tropes"-list.
The ‘it’s just their culture’ excuse is a slippery slope of accepting a lot of shitty behavior. JS
But it is valid in this case. Korean parents don't normally treat their children this way anyways. This was just an over exaggeration for the sake of comedy.
I am grateful the author brought up how much of a trash selfish dishonest and down right despicable person Shiba is. But ughh the fact that they’ll still end up together pisses me off.
what does the constant forced narrative of an emotional distant promiscuous fuckboi and an innocent naive virgin do people find appealing about a story like this? Is it the fantasy of "changing" the bad boy that is so prevalent in romance stories of middle aged stay at home moms love with a glass of iced chardonnay?How is this any way desired escapism seeing someone being treated like shit at the mercy of their feelings?
Say it louder for the people at the back!
There is something magical called preferences. Because you don't like something, it doesn't mean other people shouldn't enjoy it :D
Also, not every story, that has the same "theme" going on, is completely the same. Every mangaka shows a different story and they convey it in a different light. The art style plays an important role as well!
Of course there a lot manga that are a plain copy, but there definitely are some good ones out there.
What irks me is the utter ridiculous bullshit origin story of Yaku as the typical explanation of well I'm a shitty human because someone didn't love me right so I'll subject you to the same?! Get the fuck out of here do people really think that having a relationship that ended badly allows an individual to treat everyone else they meet in life like trash then after? Your trauma does not allow you to hurt others because you are unable to process your emotions. The whole violence begets violence or abuse isn't enough of an excuse to not hold people accountable for their actions. This relationship is TOXIC, i repeat TOXIC but have a hot guy paired against a cute guy within the world of BL and all of that nonsense is ignored. WHY do you think people hate Twilight so much beyond Kristen Stewart's back acting.When popular fiction it produced enough to further create pieces of shit like Shades of Gray and other toxic spawn promoting toxic relationships for little tween girls to aspire to grow into misguided women pining after stalker Edward Cullens or emotionally manipulative Christian Grays. This bullshit of it's fiction it's fiction nothing that is fiction ever stays fiction you'd have to be an utter child not to see even the most fantastical inventions we thought about once upon a time are now realities based off those imaginations of young impressionable thinkers/readers.Narratives promoting toxic relationships are weened at any age, and before you know it's considered irrelevant, it's considered normal, it's considered desirable. This is how minds change and develop. Whether or not this story is to my preference or not, it's damaging for people to sit here and say that a story about a young man who has a crush on another man who treats him as a sexual plaything due to his shortcomings and unresolved issues is love. Nothing about this story is love, Hino shouldn't have to change Yaku to be a better person, to be a better man, to be a better lover. If this was even a young woman with a Yaku like young man I doubt anyone would be silent and or encouraging of this situation. It's the ability to remove themselves from the situation that allows this. I too can of course separate fiction and reality, I'm not about to call this story cute or a good story for the sake of oh look at the pretty pictures fucking each other.
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I should also say I'm not intending to fight or insult you or others' appreciation of what differs to me as enjoyable. But as I stated with my introductory rant I cannot agree that this story is unique or handled in a way that removes itself from all the other variants of toxic, sexually violent, or abusive themed BL gaslit as romance.
Who’s the bad boy? Who’s being shitty? So confused. Is he not allowed to not be in love? As far as he knows, Hino is on the same page about a sex only relationship. He’s never lied to him or treated him cruelly. Maybe you’re the type who likes to over share, but I don’t give out my personal preferences, or life story to every Tom, Dick, and Harry either.
honestly you truly know this story is without a semblance of actual gay lived experiences or perspective because the idol outing minjae after barely knowing him and especially to an ex girlfriend who cheated on him and is current girlfriend of his crush is beyond fucked up to think that's even remotely okay. When you yourself are likely keeping your own sexual orientation away from the public image as an idol based character, to go and reveal such information without a thought? Wow what a truly shitty character that acts in no way close to realistic or with basic basic common sense.
Is this you saying you are mot enjoying then because it's bloody good
well it's not that great a story to begin besides the art, it's a plot that's been done countless times except we have a rushed romance and the presence of an ex-girlfriend. Otherwise it's pretty piss poor.
While I’m happy they’re moving forward. Did Moogyeong physically say he likes Yohan back in return? Is it properly acknowledge that these feelings are mutual now or simply Yohan confessed and Moogyeong not saying no to them is enough to be seen as acceptance? Because Moogyeong ‘s cowardice while relatable and part of his personality does at times become grating to watch. Especially when his inability to confront things such as his feelings as Yuri pointed out has others like Yohan bending over backwards to not disrupt Moogyeong’s walls he hides behind.
I am curious how old is Taehoon? Is he the same age as Noah or younger. See as Leopold is likely Noah’s actual father that makes a rather huge age gap between Taehoon and Leopold. Is Leopold dad older or actually Gramps older?
Eunwoo is a manipulative sadistic fuck. What a truly horrible man. As much as I dislike Wonho I wouldn’t wish my worst enemy to have suffer under Eunwoo definition of “love”. This up there with Game of Thrones Ramsey sadistic mind games torture kind of bad.
You’re right his affection is purely twisted