While I’m happy they’re moving forward. Did Moogyeong physically say he likes Yohan back in return? Is it properly acknowledge that these feelings are mutual now or simply Yohan confessed and Moogyeong not saying no to them is enough to be seen as acceptance? Because Moogyeong ‘s cowardice while relatable and part of his personality does at times become grating to watch. Especially when his inability to confront things such as his feelings as Yuri pointed out has others like Yohan bending over backwards to not disrupt Moogyeong’s walls he hides behind.
I am curious how old is Taehoon? Is he the same age as Noah or younger. See as Leopold is likely Noah’s actual father that makes a rather huge age gap between Taehoon and Leopold. Is Leopold dad older or actually Gramps older?
God I would be furious at Shiba if I were Tokizou because while Shiba isn’t obligated to return Tokizou’s feelings especially if Tokizou won’t openly admit to them before during or after Shiba’s marriage. However, what Shiba did was fucked up in that he emotionally manipulated Tokizou in terms of staying with him post divorce taking a hand at wooing Tokizou since his marriage failed. Shiba came to stay with Tokizou under the pretense of a down on his luck best friend but he purposely knew this was uncomfortable for Tokizou due to having prior knowledge of Tokizou’s feelings that’s straight up manipulation not help a friend out here. This was a guilt trip spiked with “eye fluttering hearts”. Then to go on a “date” without giving Tokizou a heads up so that he would be stuck in his head brooding with anxiety also fully knowing the crisis you are putting him in also adds to that manipulation.You deserved that punch and then some.
Tokizou is such a pushover for even letting him stay then afterwards rather going to a hotel himself for the night. Truthfully I can completely understand the whole coming out later in life that some gay/bi men experience. Even the whole marrying a women when it’s not true to themselves due to whatever their circumstances since we don’t live a world that fully allows all individuals to live their true selves. But you have to be a real narcissistic fuck to play these kind of mind games with someone you care about deeply just to test their commitment to a 20 year + unrequited love rather than just be upfront. Had this happened in real life while it would seem romantic that Shiba and Tokizou would end up together, it would be the worst. It highlights how much Shiba has no problem taking Tokizou for granted and had always done so. It’s besides the point that Tokizou had likely been with other people and had previous relationship if Shiba was under the impression he could stroll right in and Tokizou would drop everything for a chance to be together. We see this by Shiba being hostile to the part timer because he thinks he’s competition and intends to scare him off. Honestly knowing that Shiba knew makes the whole situation just sad and a moot point more so than wholesome that two older male friends found love.
honestly like i really just felt so icky reading this. it made me feel bad for Tokizou too because imagine someone you thought you would never be able to be with just getting married, getting divorced, then free loading while being conscious of your feelings and just IUHFBWGREHVWHUIQE like i rlly just wanted to cry for Tokizou
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Exactly that. Like how self absorbed are you that you knowingly choose to make your friend continue to feel this turmoil just because of “friendship” no sir if you wanted to be friends with him stay friends. If you wanted to be his lover you had the opportunity in fact you many opportunities you don’t get to decide when you’re good and ready because it’s a convenient alternative. im sure the author’s intentions was something wholesome, comedic, and slightly more realistic but this honestly comes across as just cruel honestly. I just have to reiterate that Shiba was ready to tear apart Tokizou and part timer’s relationship had they actually been a couple and this being Tokizou healthily trying to move on too. Man Shiba has no limits to his selfishness. Like you are truly a piece of shit once you also put that into perspective.
I'm really would like to like this story, but brown haired dude comes across as a straight up pathetic doormat and of course we have a douche love interest who with the bodyswitch plot makes falling in love with him even more ridiculous because he has a terrible personality all while momentarily having the face of our very pushover type dumped meek character. You've known him in a span of a day, find out he is complicit in your gf cheating on you, gladly insults to your face, body switches, and now you're falling for him despite all of the above mentioned? Even while fictional this is just a bad plot. And our celebrity boy is right you don't do anything to remotely appear not dumb.
Edit: I should also mention that I know he fully confronts him about his doucheyness however because they still end up together as we know it essentially negates any wrongdoing both the gf and our famous boy have done because now the boys have fallen for each other. It's way too contrived.
tbh it's been so long since I last read about such a pushover character, like ok while she was getting at the peak of her famem he decided to change their relationship to a long-distance one(the girl is still a bitch though..) and even though he came of as somewhat strong willed at the start his character took an 180 turn and now he suddenly throws so much self blaming and the fact that he fell in love for a d!ck that has his face is even more questionable. I honestly believe that the other decided to scrap the first concept and start anew after chapter 1 this seems too much even for fiction xD.
ps even though I complain so much this type of story is legit my casual read, cause I don't have to feel anxious about the progression, I can make wild guesses at how the story will progress and I might also get to see some lovey-dovey scene or smthing as a bonus ╮(￣▽￣)╭
oh I agree with you I could mindlessly read this just for the sake of leisure and decent art, I just honestly couldn't get past just how bad this plot truthfully is. We have guy after one day seriously falling in love with the guy who his girlfriend cheated on with, a guy who has not qualms insulting you and playing with your emotions, and then expects you to help him maintain his career without question fully ignoring that you should hate him and that this would be the perfect opportunity while body switched to ruin this guy and take him off his high horse? Instead you blush when he so much as looks you now? Da fuck? I know we got the cliched sob background story from our celebrity boy but it's not like Minjae knows this, so he's simply made to be a wishy washy doormat with the emotions of a teenage girl told that a boy who likes her treats her badly. Granted a majority of the genre is pretty cliched and is exactly the scene i've mentioned, so I should just shut my mouth while i'm ahead of myself.
so Tony was raped and straight up brushed it off and then we got Yakuza guy being turned on by the fact as well as proud himself that Tony was unfazed after being raped? Now they'll end up together and Tony will have his rapist's child. Literally you can never just got one authentic BL where it's a unique and interesting idea without rape to love like you almost can't at this point. Literally ruins the wholesomeness of the story and undermines Mike and Terry's clearly mutual loving relationship. SERIOUSLY WHAT IS FUCKING WRONG with this genre?!
90% of yaoi and mpreg stories are like that... which made me pretty tired sometimes too. You can steer for shounen ai where there is mostly good art, good characters, good development like Whose baby is it?, Kamisama no Uroko, Sweet Man, or Mo Dao Zu Shi.
While we cannot be certain him expressing that he wants to wear skirts is coding for a trans character. We can based on the dialogue and inner monologue say he does have a type of body dysmorphia ( his current body and image doesn’t align with desired appearance). That is not to say that he is a man wanting to be a women, but that his physical aesthetic does not match his gender expression whether this is as a cisman male, trans female, or gender fluid or even further categorizes like cross dresser, fem, androgynous. I only say this because of his clear concern in appearing more masculine to circumvent any possibility of that drawing attention to his sexuality whether or not that is definitively gay. Overall he wished for a more slim i’m guessing less obvious masculine physical build to match his young dreams of being a “princess” not necessarily as a woman but puberty hit and left him uncomfortable in himself which can happen for any child, but again that’s psychoanalizing a fictional character a tad overboard. He might simply just like more feminine oriented things and that’s simply that too. But let’s not jump to conclusion about his gender identity just yet.
That was really well said. ヾ(☆▽☆)
Honestly Ken is such a fucking douche i'm getting sick of it.His need to constantly take out his frustrations out on Kirara is getting ridiculous when all of the miscommunication is a direct result of him having a reputation of sleeping around and then feminizing Kirara when it's convenient for him. He never acknowledges anything, but the physical intimacy that he routinely forces onto Kirara. Of course Kirara thinks Ken doesn't know Ken likes him,Ken has done nothing to disprove that and his track record shows he'lll go for anyone who at least shows interest in him without complaint. Even with his internalized homophobia I'm continuously losing sympathy for Ken's melodrama because you don't start a physical relationship with someone and then fault them when they don't readily guess your intentions and feelings given how he's rudely treated them for a considerable amount of time. Kirara truthfully deserves better, but given the plot is the childhood friends trope they have to end up together when in reality Ken really needs way more time to grow up and Kirara needs to find a love interest who while battling his insecurities doesn't treat him like crap every other five minutes and makes him their emotional punching bag. God what's worse is in this chapter Ken all but raped Kirara but of course yet again Ken's "confusion" gives him a pass for being the worst.
Preach! 100% Agree. I’m so over Ken. Kirara deserves better. This update was tough..
OMG, just, YES to everything you said here! Amen, you are preaching the words of my heart!
Guys! Listen. Ken is a kid. He's a kid. Literally. He's a douche right now bc he's
an immature brat. A teenage brat - worst of them all lol. So is Kirara. They are both brats. Just keep that in mind and wait for them to grow up ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~ I am 100% sure Ken's going to be a very sweet seme when he grows up a bit.
No that is not an excuse. I’m tired of such a bullshit excuse of hey he’s a kid you doesn’t know right from wrong. While is fictional this is literally the same thing we say to boys as they grow up, “ they’re just being boys”. Being a boy who will become a man who doesn’t know the value of treating people with respect and most especially someone you love is why we continue to have domestic violence, unfaithfulness, and assault be the direct result of young men who are excused for their behavior and the continuous narrative of “love hurts”. I don’t care that this is fictional it’s all romanticized abuse. If Ken doesn’t have his shit sorted he has NO right to inflict his insecurities onto anyone. His choices and his actions has led to the dilemma he finds himself in, the author has chosen this narrative. Even with internalized homophobia it does excuse assualting Kirara and what I’m guessing is screwing over many girls with his wishy washy heteronormative conditioning. You don’t get to later pretend that Ken wasn’t hurtful to Kirara or others just because their love will become mutual, ignoring abuse and trauma for the sake of LOVE is toxic.
I don't know what "kids" pull this kind of shit--have you met any? "Kids" shouldn't be spewing slurs, sleeping around, forcing sexual intimacy on people saying no, and intentionally hurting the people around them with their words and actions--especially people who they're supposed to care about. It's not just being "immature" that causes this kind of behaviour and he needs a serious ass-kicking/attitude adjustment. While part of it may be because he's 16, and I have confidence that the author will work change into his character and he will grow as a person, but that's NOT an excuse and this kind of behaviour should not be treated as "oh, he's just a bratty child, he'll grow out of it, lol ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~". Like, what?! NO. NOT okay.
In short, being young is not a license to be a using asshole--and people don't magically grow out of it. It's a sign of character--BAD character. And it requires intentional change to stop behaving and thinking in such self-absorbed and poisonous ways.
THANK YOU!!! I just gave my own impassioned "um, NO" to that comment. Amen to everything you said there (≧∀≦)
Omg guys xD why are you getting so worked up for, you're totally missing the point here!
Like I said, Ken is an emotionally immature brat and the only thing grown up about him is his body and his sexual drive. But since he's still a brat, he doesn't know what to do about it! Seriously, I don't know what lives you've been living and maybe you're all saints, but I can say for sure that I have done lots of mean things when I was a teenager without even realising! I mean, that is what teenagers are famous for, right??? Let's not forget that Ken's family situation is not setting the best example for him.
Teenage years are when you are most vulnerable and what Ken needs is some guidance and some trigger to finally realise what he's been doing, some encouragement to do the right thing! I am scared just thinking what would happen if you guys met a teenager like Ken, you'd probably spew all kinds of disdainful words at them and break their self esteem and character forever.
I have read all of Yamamoto Kotetsuko's works and I trust the author. Ken will grow out of it, he's gonna feel very guilty about it and I am willing to bet 100€ he'll become the sweetest seme ever.
Haha, we WERE getting pretty worked up--but let's keep in mind that this is fiction. I don't think any of us would say anything like this to the person in question if this were real life (I like to think I'm not a horrible person, thanks. Also, we're not addressing these talks to Ken, so what gave you the impression that we would bad mouth his behaviour to his face in the first place???), and while I certainly was NEVER a saint as a teenager, I certainly never held someone down and kissed/groped/etc. them when they were saying "no".
I'm not saying that Ken is a despicable human being--like you said, he's a teenager, he's confused, he's undoubtedly got internalized homophobia from blaming his Dad's partner for the breakdown of his parents' relationship, etc. He's got A LOT of problems. I think our main concern was people not acknowledging the fact that these ARE problems, not something to laugh at or brush away saying "oh he's just a kid, he'll grow out of it"--because a lot of people don't grow out of it, unfortunately. So, knowing this author, I'm fairly certain he will undergo character growth and become a better person as a whole, as well as a good partner for Kurara. However, I still have this niggling fear that the author won't have Ken give a proper apology or properly acknowledge how shitty his behaviour was--basically, I want there to be proper acknowledgement that what he did was not okay. I genuinely want him to be happy--I'm just not happy with his relationship with Kurara as it stands RIGHT NOW. I have high hopes it will change for the better--I just hope it's in a semi-realistic way that doesn't sweep everything under the rug of "our feelings are mutual now, yay! Let's have sex now and suddenly enter a relationship of pure bliss!" Which is totally something I've seen in Yaoi a lot before -_-. The fear that Yamamoto-sensei will do this is quite small--but it IS there because she has a few semes who I still can't stand to this day (the one from "Fukurou-kun to Kare", for example).
Anyway, sorry for the rant! (￣∇￣")
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Whole thing is just like Make Me Bark. A dimwitred bigger muscle uke and high maintenance manipulative smaller seme just with rape by the 3rd chapter and rape to love plot. Uke is also sexually assaulted in 2nd chapter by his doctor while getting “prostate exam”. Yeah passing on this shit.
I mean....the title says it all really
Honestly this author has to be trolling their readers because after chapter 3 it’s obvious that the author is aware how ridiculous Ume is for degrading himself for Hara so much. I mean after all, the introduction of the ex-fuck buddy literally voicing reason to every point as to why Hara is trash and yet Ume still chooses him has to be breaking the 4th wall or just trolling meta at this point.
I agree. The degree to which they're despicable and pathetic respectively is just ridiculous. I refuse to believe we're supposed to feel empathy for those two.
If you don't feel empathy for Ume then you don't think Hara is despicable.
honestly you truly know this story is without a semblance of actual gay lived experiences or perspective because the idol outing minjae after barely knowing him and especially to an ex girlfriend who cheated on him and is current girlfriend of his crush is beyond fucked up to think that's even remotely okay. When you yourself are likely keeping your own sexual orientation away from the public image as an idol based character, to go and reveal such information without a thought? Wow what a truly shitty character that acts in no way close to realistic or with basic basic common sense.
Is this you saying you are mot enjoying then because it's bloody good
well it's not that great a story to begin besides the art, it's a plot that's been done countless times except we have a rushed romance and the presence of an ex-girlfriend. Otherwise it's pretty piss poor.