
i get that hes angry at him but he shouldnt force him after he told him to stop it feels rapey

There both angry with themselves what there doing now is releasing it with sex illyan wants this you may see him saying stop it hurts but it doesn't he is just saying that because he is about to experience a different kind of pleasure and it probably scares him a little. Most ppl in manga who about to experience this pleasure even the straight one will say stop it hurts then have a very explosive orgasm

u can tell by the way hes acting and how he says it hurts. it isnt just pleasure, hes already sick so its making it harder on him. he said to stop so their shouldnt b any excuses for tht. he shouldve stopped the first time he said it regardless. i do get that theyre both angry and are dealing with it in different ways but it shouldnt be like this :/

nah yall r fucking stupid. this is rape. he didnt consent to it after he fell asleep. they mightve talked about it before to see what they were comfortable with but they didnt show that. ur just saying that to excuse this. this wasnt somnophilia either they never said anything about that either. being into s&m doesnt involve every other kink. this was just weird :/

There’s this thing called blanket consent that is v common in bdsm couples. After how healthy their relationship was & how much they discussed things, it’s almost disrespectful to assume blanket consent wasn’t given, esp bc we’ve seen that in past chapters. You don’t have to like it but stop calling things rape just bc YOU don’t understand how certain kinks/consent works.

What are you so aggressive for? God you sound absolutely miserable & immature. It’s disrespectful to the story & in turn the author, not to mention the loads of people who utilize blanket consent irl. Maybe stop projecting your miserable attitude & white knighting if you don’t understand what’s going on.

what miserable attitude? im just tired of people excusing the stupid shit that the authors do in their stories. he didnt give consent for him to fuck him in his sleep. where did he say okay? he couldnt because he was asleep. theyre into s&m not somnophilia, not "blanket consent" ur pulling this shit out of ur ass to defend it. i dont care what people irl do thats their own private sex life. but when its in a story and doesnt show consent it looks like rape. if they said something about them being into somnophilia or if theyve talked about whats ok and what isnt then i wouldnt call this rape. but the fact that they didnt do any of those things makes me think its rape. instead of saying i have a miserable attitude see where im coming from instead of excusing how its weird that they didnt show evidence of this being an okay thing in their relationship

At the end of the day it’s the potential victim’s feelings that are most important. In this case it would be Jooni. He’s clearly ok w what happened afterwards bc he was excited about his ‘dream’ & it’s also weird to assume Siwon would do anything to hurt Jooni. Also, blanket consent is like I said common in bdsm relationships & you can infer it’s something they may have discussed. A webcomic shouldn’t be anyone’s first introduction into bdsm so if you don’t already know about these things, you should read up/educate yourself instead of diving headfirst into a webcomic where the author likely assumes that most of the readers are aware about base knowledge of bdsm. In stories like Kiss Me Liar, Painter of the Night, Yours to Claim etc those situations are absolutely rape and extremely problematic. This story is nothing like those & with basic comprehension skills you should be able to understand context & tell the situations apart. The evidence is their entire relationship up until now. Your savior complex doesn’t belong here.
i hate that they brush over the fact that the guy raped kuzuya multiple times and use it as humor. and yes i know its harada but like why do we jus ignore the weird shit that harada does in their mangas. rape is such a common theme in every single one of their stories and its dealt with horribly. and yes i also know that a lot of bl has that issue its not just harada but like thats literally the problem. why is it so common and treated so fucking badly
Same it made me mad when i heard about kazuyas school life and his rapist.
It's because we know it's Harada that everyone takes it lightly. Not everyone is gonna get offended by things that are happening in a manga where a stone statue literally makes things appear out of thin air and the two main characters are dumber than a sack of bricks.
ur proving my point though. like because its harada its excused and used as comedy
it was disgusting
it think it’s more like it’s because it’s harada that’s why people can look at it and not react the same way as, say, if it’s depiction of rape in another manga. harada’s works are pretty niche, so you won’t expect it to actually impact how a lot of people think and feel about something. rather, it’s more like most of the readers already know that whatever goes on in harada’s works are wrong, or at least should be. harada’s works aren’t romance nor ordinary bl, so when reading it, you don’t exactly judge it the same way as you would other, more “normal” bls. for example, when reading other manhwas and mangas with rape, i find them distasteful because they try to include rape in a normal story, passing it off as romance, and completely just normalizing it. in this manga in particular, things are just so bizarre i don’t even know what to think anymore so i just suspend reason ahaha also i think it’s pretty neat how a lot of time harada’s works actually open a lot of discussion on morality because she’s so unforgiving in whatever she wants to write and draw lol
I’m not feeling it either those scenes. But this story is apparently a crack at all the yaoi tropes.
A dark comedy of some sorts
I’m thinking the common rape theme in yaoi esp when it’s depicted as love
The point is Harada doesn't romanticize rape.
As I could see in other tons of BLs, rape is often romanticized and used as an excuse to start a relationship or to make an het boy become suddenly gay.
An example?
Idoku Shinaide from Nekota, has the seme literally raping and handcuffing the uke (an hey boy) and blackmailing him.
But the uke didn't report or got away from the seme, he fell in love with him to the point they became a couple with rings. (like, wtf)
Harada is more psychological, as you can see in Color Recipe she doesn't romanticize the rape (in fact, uke doesn't fall in love with seme), but it's involved in the story in a different way.
harada does deal with it differently which i like because its not romantisizing it. but im just not comfortable with the amount of rape in their stories. u know what i mean? like i know what im getting into but god damn
it is pretty interesting how her stories are written and portrayed and i love most of her works but its the rape initself that bothers me not neccesarily the creator because its such a hard thing to read and i know what im getting into when reading hardas works but the amount of it is ridicilous. its in almost every story that theyve made and its so common. its just distasteful and makes me sick.
i hate it when stories make it into a love aspect or ignore the affects that rape causes to someones wellbeing and like physical attraction to others. a lot of bl mangakas act as if its a plot point and its disgusting. i do enjoy the comedy in this manga of course but not when it comes to serious topics such as assault. even if thats the point its just ughh no
Yes, I understand
It's difficult to accept and deal with their work, but at this point I think they're making a sort of parody of what BL is
i do see that a bit
Ifkr, tbh this is the only Harada's story I can actually read ((just because there're actually a lot of light and funny humor in it and not as fucked up as the other stories)) ykwim
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