BeepBopp June 26, 2019 11:53 am

i wonder why Charlie just don’t go away? Maybe he has no money/home but that would mean that he is doing this job with consent, even if it was introduced by the seme, we don’t know if he really did something bad. And if the seme is forcing Charlie to stay, then there was no need to pretend love at this point. I hope this will be explained because manga loves to put lots of shit but explain 1/3 of it

    Sachiko June 27, 2019 4:17 pm

    If he has no money or home he's NOT consenting. Nice victim blaming though. This is the same reason why only 1/3 of everything gets explained btw. Reasons are irrelevant. Authors know that because there will always be people such as yourself willing to victim blame even without them. Ktbn.

    Bl is lyf June 27, 2019 5:51 pm
    If he has no money or home he's NOT consenting. Nice victim blaming though. This is the same reason why only 1/3 of everything gets explained btw. Reasons are irrelevant. Authors know that because there will al... Sachiko

    is this worth reading?

    Bl is lyf June 27, 2019 5:52 pm
    is this worth reading? Bl is lyf

    i mean the manhwa

    Bl is lyf June 27, 2019 5:53 pm

    im curious who is "he" in line if he did something bad T.T

    BeepBopp June 28, 2019 5:06 am
    If he has no money or home he's NOT consenting. Nice victim blaming though. This is the same reason why only 1/3 of everything gets explained btw. Reasons are irrelevant. Authors know that because there will al... Sachiko

    I ain’t victim blaming dude, if Charlie has no ressources it means that he is doing this to survive aka no one is forcing him to do it. How is that even victim blaming?

    BeepBopp June 28, 2019 5:10 am
    im curious who is "he" in line if he did something bad T.T Bl is lyf

    I like the story so far but I’d suggest you to wait until it’s finished to read it

    Bl is lyf June 28, 2019 11:31 am

    btw, regarding the victim blaming issue, just to raise a point, actually in my country, we have this republic act regarding anti-hazing law due to the raising cases of dead student trying to join fraternitiies but ending up dead because of the severe hazing/rite process. It is said in the act that even if the applicant (person trying to join) signed a waiver or letter of consent for the process, that letter remains invalid, and if the applicant want to sue the people who did the hazing, then the applicant can. same with psychological trauma etc caused during the whole application process for the frat or organizations. even if for the majority, the activities or process wasnt hard or traumatizing enough, once the applicant, even if solely, felt traumatized or humilated, that applicant can file for case. bottomline, no one else can say whether a person consented, traumatized, or humilated but the person who thinks so. not even the majority.

    In this case, Charlie sure said that he was used by making him fall in love, but it wasnt clearly stated yet whether he was being forced to stay or do whatever or if he's doing it willingly albeit the mistreatment and being whored out.

    BeepBopp June 28, 2019 3:23 pm
    btw, regarding the victim blaming issue, just to raise a point, actually in my country, we have this republic act regarding anti-hazing law due to the raising cases of dead student trying to join fraternitiies ... Bl is lyf

    Well that’s the thing, he did say he was used but right now, he knows that and he is staying. I doubt there is a contract that force him to stay (but maybe) and i doubt he is forced to stay illegaly(because then there was no need to fake love). And so here comes the point of my post, why is he staying, does he have no money or maybe he still loves the seme and is staying despite being used.

    Bl is lyf June 28, 2019 3:38 pm
    Well that’s the thing, he did say he was used but right now, he knows that and he is staying. I doubt there is a contract that force him to stay (but maybe) and i doubt he is forced to stay illegaly(because t... BeepBopp

    i got your point so i raised that comment for the first reply. sorry, i didn't comment on the reply

BeepBopp June 24, 2019 10:10 am

Honestly, no matter what this dude didn’t want to shit his mouth, it’s like he was asking to get silenced. And finally we were told who that random person was(the one who came to Jiwom due to the bullying)

BeepBopp June 19, 2019 4:59 am

I didnt read this yet but i did read the other story and i was wondering. Is this after, before or during the other story? Because these two seemed like fuck friends in the other story

    LacusUsagi June 19, 2019 2:58 pm

    After they are not fuck friends they were dating 8 yrs since college until misunderstanding occurred.

    BeepBopp June 19, 2019 3:47 pm
    After they are not fuck friends they were dating 8 yrs since college until misunderstanding occurred. LacusUsagi

    Well thats why its so weird. In the other story, i’m pretty sure the ukebwas trying to not meet the seme, like they had to make a deal for the uke to go on a date with the seme, how come it’s like that if they been dating for 8 years?

BeepBopp June 16, 2019 10:04 am

So i stopped reading this long time ago and decided to wait until its completed to re read it but theres something i wanna know, did the author who loved misaki forced a deep kiss/sexual touching or even further than that? I remember the brother forced a kiss before.

    being-you June 25, 2019 6:53 am

    no it was just his dream

    BeepBopp June 25, 2019 9:52 am
    no it was just his dream being-you

    Thanks, just wanted to know because i’m really tired of pushover ukes and I dont wanna re-read the whole thing to end up with that xD

BeepBopp June 16, 2019 9:56 am

It’s kind of funny how much he is invested in other people’s life xD

    Ares June 16, 2019 10:12 am

    More like creepy and borderline unhealthy

    BeepBopp June 16, 2019 7:15 pm
    More like creepy and borderline unhealthy Ares

    Creepy? Huh well that’s your opinion but as readers we know he is just jealous and has lots of time on his hands. Unhealthy ? Well not really... Of course these are subjective so it’s really up to you what you think of him.

    Ares June 16, 2019 10:04 pm
    Creepy? Huh well that’s your opinion but as readers we know he is just jealous and has lots of time on his hands. Unhealthy ? Well not really... Of course these are subjective so it’s really up to you what ... BeepBopp

    No matter the reason outing someone against their will is not right. And not funny. Having a lot of free time is a poor excuse to spending it on hating someone and finding ways to ruin other people life. Like I said, unhealthy and creepy.

    BeepBopp June 17, 2019 10:29 am
    No matter the reason outing someone against their will is not right. And not funny. Having a lot of free time is a poor excuse to spending it on hating someone and finding ways to ruin other people life. Like I... Ares

    Of course it’s not right, i just wouldn’t describe it as creepy and unhealthy

BeepBopp June 15, 2019 8:13 am

For those who think the uke is being used, well he didn’t seem to want romance in his life but he did need a partner to keep his pheromones stable. This is actually a 3 threesome that i like. Compared to other 3some where one seme is usually the main and the other feels like a 3rd wheel

BeepBopp June 12, 2019 7:13 am

And yet this « coward » is the same dude that expressed his feelings quite easily towards his last crush. It’s a bit disappointing, the story is just taking longer without anything interesting and I don’t understand where the MC put the confidence he had at the begining :/

    god isn't real June 12, 2019 7:33 am

    Public self-confidence doesn't mean actual high self-esteem.

    Arisueii June 12, 2019 8:28 am
    Public self-confidence doesn't mean actual high self-esteem. god isn't real

    Can i high five you?

BeepBopp June 11, 2019 8:55 pm

I didnt start the manga but i wanna know. Did any of the MC cheat or gets raped or sexually harrassed(while being in a couple)?

    kyra 23 June 11, 2019 9:09 pm

    No, he's not in a relationship so he didn't cheat. There are some uncomfortable situations between the stepbrothers but that's it.

    Yaoi.milk June 11, 2019 10:30 pm

    No

    BeepBopp June 12, 2019 12:58 am
    No, he's not in a relationship so he didn't cheat. There are some uncomfortable situations between the stepbrothers but that's it. kyra 23

    Thanks for the answers, i just don’t want to read a manga with cheaters or pushover uke xD

BeepBopp June 11, 2019 6:12 pm

Whats the definition of a doujinshi? I used to think it’s just a not canon manga xD but am i wrong?

    Kuro June 11, 2019 11:33 pm

    A Doujinshi is a manga by a non-professional artist and published by the artist itself without companies included. Moreover mostly doujinshis are Fan-art Mangas/Manhwas. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    BeepBopp June 12, 2019 12:56 am
    A Doujinshi is a manga by a non-professional artist and published by the artist itself without companies included. Moreover mostly doujinshis are Fan-art Mangas/Manhwas. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Kuro

    So you are saying doujinshis aren’t canon. But this one, the drawings seems the same as the original and wasn’t that the author’s note at the end? Is it possible that manga published without companies included but written by the same author be included in doujinshis?

    lovvlai June 12, 2019 6:20 am
    So you are saying doujinshis aren’t canon. But this one, the drawings seems the same as the original and wasn’t that the author’s note at the end? Is it possible that manga published without companies inc... BeepBopp

    From what I understand, doujinshi are self-published works. this means that doujinshis can be written by anybody (the original author, fans, others artists, etc) that are about the characters & story of the work. djs are usually canon when written by the original author--but there are time when original author doesn't make it canon but just play around with their characters bc they think its interesting. on the other hand, anything made by other creators relating to the work is not canon. so the answer to your last question is YES. It's possible for original author to publish their work w/o a company and tat is what a dj is.

    For this doujinshi, it was made from the same mangaka of the main story and it is canon. instead of publishing with the original story, this dj was published separately.

    BeepBopp June 12, 2019 6:50 am
    From what I understand, doujinshi are self-published works. this means that doujinshis can be written by anybody (the original author, fans, others artists, etc) that are about the characters & story of the... lovvlai

    Thank you! :D

BeepBopp June 10, 2019 9:57 pm

I have a question concerning the prequel:
When Rogi forced Tatsuyuki to have sex with him. Technically, It wasn’t rape, it was more like Tatsuyuki selling his body(because he owed money to Rogi and didn’t want to be a burden for his dad). But then right after Nozomi took Tatsuyuki out of Rogi’s house, they were pretty much acting as if Tatsuyuki was kidnapped. Did i miss something?(i’m so confused)

    Snow June 10, 2019 10:27 pm

    Well he was kidnapped, he wasn't allowed to leave or do anything without Rogis permission, since Tatsuyuki agreed to repay his debt with his body the confinement wasn't needed

    BeepBopp June 10, 2019 10:56 pm
    Well he was kidnapped, he wasn't allowed to leave or do anything without Rogis permission, since Tatsuyuki agreed to repay his debt with his body the confinement wasn't needed Snow

    But before leaving to go to Rogi’s, he told Nozomi he wouldn’t be back for a while so he knew he would be confined. And i think it lasted for like a week(which seems appropriate for « a while »)

    Snow June 10, 2019 11:23 pm
    But before leaving to go to Rogi’s, he told Nozomi he wouldn’t be back for a while so he knew he would be confined. And i think it lasted for like a week(which seems appropriate for « a while ») BeepBopp

    Nozomi saw it as kidnapping ,Tatsuyuki saw it as repaying the debt and just felt used

    couldntcareless June 10, 2019 11:29 pm

    Blackmailing someone to have sex with you is generally not a nice thing to do! Legally, it's called "Coercion", and in some states it's a rape case (it should be one everywhere, but such is the world we live in). Coercion by itself is illegal too! IDK about the laws in Japan though, not that anyone in this manga's gonna use the legal system for anything!

    Mari June 11, 2019 1:07 am

    Are you aware of what rape is? He *didn't* give him a choice. It wasn't consent, it wasn't a choice. He was blackmailed and therefore in that regard forced to sell his body. That's not consent and it's not in the least legal. That is rape.

    If you're telling someone you will kill their family or in other ways hurt their loved ones if they don't pay with their body, is that not rape, if the person agrees? Someone threatening and you agreeing to avoid said threat from actually happening is not consent.

    So Rogi is in fact still a rapist scumbag - and he knows.

    BeepBopp June 11, 2019 4:08 am
    Are you aware of what rape is? He *didn't* give him a choice. It wasn't consent, it wasn't a choice. He was blackmailed and therefore in that regard forced to sell his body. That's not consent and it's not in t... Mari

    I get your point but i’m pretty sure MC in the other story had the choice to ask his dad repay Rogi but the MC would feel ashamed of doing so.

    BeepBopp June 11, 2019 4:11 am
    Nozomi saw it as kidnapping ,Tatsuyuki saw it as repaying the debt and just felt used Snow

    But then Tatsuyuki came back and wanted to kill Rogi because it caused pain to Nozomi. I mean at this point he could have killed Rogi right from the start

    Snow June 11, 2019 9:02 am
    But then Tatsuyuki came back and wanted to kill Rogi because it caused pain to Nozomi. I mean at this point he could have killed Rogi right from the start BeepBopp

    Yeah he could have but I don't think that he was capable of taking someones life (from his trauma as a kid) that's way he was struggling to pull the trigger

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