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That is what I thought too!

wait but that’s kind of cool

AND THEN HE WHIPPWD OUT THE MARKER SO I WAS LIKE !!! But then he just offered to draw one on him so if felt like a fool HAHA

I think it'd be cute ;-;

THIS!!!!

I get your point but you need to understand that he still did it, in his subconscious he didn't care, he intentionally wanted to hurt Jin, just because he was drugged doesn't excuse the fact the he was hellbent on causing him pain even after he told him to stop, your subconscious mind reveals your darkest thoughts and desires

Actually until we all taken such drugs it is best not to judge. Esp if this happened in real life. I'm not saying people should not be punished but sometimes you won't know until you are in their shoes. To best is to avoid being in those shoes to begin with so stay safe.

But your darkest desires don't define you and they don't count for shit if you actively try to be a good person and never let those out because you understand that they're wrong. Matthew is deeply traumatized from what he's been through in life, we know he's not mentally well. So yes, he's going to have a dark side, but your subconscious isn't something you can control and it certainly isn't something you should be judged by. What he truly wants is Jin's well-being and happiness, and he would never have let that darker side of him win had he been in control of himself.

What about the drugs that distort your subconscious?

A looooot of people judge on this site, especially when it comes to drugs. Reading webtoons like this and Shutline bring back a lot of painful memories. Sometimes, I feel like people don't take into consideration of people who have gone through what Matthew and Jin have gone through it seen family members or friends go through it. It's a rough situation, because you understand the anger and hate people have and the mean words they spew out....but you also understand the addict point of view too bc either you've seen it front roe or you've been through it yourself.

if i can give perspective here…

i was in Jin’s shoes a couple years ago with an ex of mine. we were at a party and my ex got roofied, and it really fucked him up; which in turn, caused me to become “collateral damage”, so to speak. it was intense, it was painful, both emotionally and physically. but i knew that if i didn’t help him, the drugs would fuck up his head even worse. maybe this is my savior complex speaking, but in the end, when he regained consciousness and was taken to the hospital, he apologized profusely for his actions and vowed to never go anywhere near alcohol again. we parted ways for different reasons, but we still are good friends and he’s an amazing person to me regardless of what happened. my ex never wanted to do any of that stuff to me, and i know he never would have, but was forced to because of the drugs fucking up his mind.

Matthew was mad at Jin, sure, for leaving him alone all those years, but that doesn’t mean he ever wanted to intentionally hurt Jin.

A story can have a redemption arc without being THAT predictable. Everything is super cliche in every ways. Of course people want a bit of cliche (such as the redemption trope) but this story is objectively badly written. There's literally no depth at all. EVERYTHING is predictable. Like, literally everything. It’s only porn with all the possible stereotypes in yaoi, all reunited together in one story. If the art wasn’t that magnificent, people would actually realize how bad the story is. And it’s really a shame cause there was actually so much potential.

I completely agree with you. The art is the only thing that keeps people reading it, otherwise it would’ve been forgotten waaaaaaaaay before.

(To me, sincerely speaking, the only thing that matters and makes me come back is to know what’ve happened to potato. It’s been a while since we’ve seen him!! What about Mr. Choi? Excitement at maximum!!! Just hope that between those two, the relationship is better. Fingers crossed ヾ(☆▽☆) )

I feel like that was to be expected though? I honestly don't even see where the potential was considering the very start of this was a sweet boy in severe debt and the world's biggest rich asshole who picked him up and abused him– it was extremely shitty and cliche from the very first chapter, it's just that it has a few interesting characters and gorgeous art so even though it's cliche, we're here at every chapter to eat it all up even if the concept has been chewed up and spit out a hundred times– clearly all those cliches are still effective.

Oh so then we totally agree ! Haha. As I said, it’s okay to have some cliche, there’s some tropes that I’ll never get tired of and they’re really really cliche. But just because the tropes are overused doesn’t mean that the story in itself has to be that shitty yk. They’re some really good yaoi with overused tropes and they’re sooo good tho. Like, I think it’s natural as a reader to have expected more, to have believed that it was purposefully very very shitty at the beginning just to break all the rules, at some point, to create something actually interesting and original. You know, as if the author had tricked us into believing that the story would be shitty but actually it’s not. It could have been original if the mc had broken at least one stereotype (such as him having the biggest character development with the biggest confidence boost or if he had gone berserk because of his shitty life and shitty situation but this mf is literally incapable of anger lmao). So yeah, I think many readers are still expecting the actual change but the more we read it the more cliche it gets, the least original it is and the expectations of having something more interesting or a bit more different or juuuuust a little bit deeper, simply fade away little by little. And at some point there’s this acceptance that it wasn’t a trick and YES, the author ACTUALLY wrote the shittiest story ever. And NO it’s not a joke. By the end of it, many people will stay for either the art, the drawings, the second couple, or pure curiosity as how it could get any worse. And there will be a very few of them that will still have expectations (they’re delusional).

But I definitely get what you’re saying, I think it’s kinda like the movie “red white and royal blue”, it’s only cliches with overused tropes, yet the movie is actually enjoyable and entertaining. But I don’t personally believe that Jinx is enjoyable lmaooooo it’s just frustrating.

I enjoy watching the shittiest of shit characters fall HARD and then grovel to the angels they originally shit on so I'm staying bc I'm genuinely excited for the groveling and character development HAHAHA
I think the reason I'm not upset is because I knew from the start where this story was heading and was ready for it but I think that if there were expectations in the beginning, I could see how upset you'd be now!
Ofc I do love unique and refreshing stories, I think Legs That Won't Walk would be a good example of a way cliches played out more originally, but I chose this one expecting to be in it for the long haul LOL