I hate that she's butting into every private moment nd I hope to God that she doesn't get to join in on their happy ending as a family because she has no idea what Athy has gone through to save herself and to bond with her father. I'm so tired of her boring personality and all her pointless screen time that establishes nothing new- I liked her, but the more we got from her, the less I liked her and now I just think her cuteness has rubbed away and she's terrible. Too naive and selfish...i understand why, but I don't think she deserves to be with the other two and I'm tired of her trying. She genuinely makes me want to quit this story because she's ruining near every scene she's involved in for me at this point.
FACTS DUDE FACTS OMG TY
So true
I saw a comment that was like "hope Jeanette drowns in the lake and daddy doesn't save her" and I was like? "Low-key? Same" LOL
Damn that’s cruel but like why did I laugh. ╮(￣▽￣)╭ honestly she really does need to go away bc I want my girl Athy to just be happy like why’d u gotta give her dad amnesia. It just hurts seeing Jeanette want to take all of the love that Claude has for Athy like it’s not hers to take.
exactly!! She's worked SO hard
I don't like him, tbh. I feel like it was almost lazy to give alek a knock off version of hen since he couldn't have the real thing...
I do love the original though Ivan has gotten to sweet and doting for his waifu and it's precious *^*
Ok the thing I've always hated in yaoi is when something clearly is not rape but the uke is saying "no, don't" repeatedly like they don't actually want it even though they do- it makes it feel rapey and makes actual rape seem okay bc you can barely tell the difference between if they want it or not and I'm sure to an actual loving bf that must be super annoying or concerning. BLESS IVAN FOR SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Also hen is the cutest thing ever and I would die for him.
Ok, I do this to my bf and I even try pushing him with my hands to the point he asked if I was ok...and I was I was just fucking shy but still very horny.
I couldn’t help myself but that’s why people can use safe words, even for vanilla shit.
Ooof, I mean I understand being shy but that really does give such mixed signals. I'm happy that he asked to make sure, but I 100% that a safeword in general is a really good idea, especially if you are a really shy person who often says no so then they can tell the difference between shyness and genuinely not consenting
I know! He’s great But, in all honesty I didn’t even realize I do it or that I was even trying to hold his hands away (im also ticklish) so he was just like wait...is this ok? I was so embarrassed.
Man, I totally relate to hen now
To all of y'all going "BuT CHAnWOo iS a VicTIM" and blaming everything entirely on MD last chapter then claiming to the high heavens that Chanwoo was inexperienced and didn't know how to use a safe word. HERE.
It was all too much for him and he finally realized it and said the safe word like he should have but was too stubborn to in the beginning, MD stopped IMMEDIATELY. As he should have. It was play (albeit not entirely safe play on EITHER side) and MD made sure that it was just play.
MD was being a dick, I won't deny that at all, but he was also being a sadist in BDSM play and stopped as soon as Chanwoo told him it was too much.
In BDSM both partners need to rely on each other. Neither responded correctly in the last few chapters(MD bringing in emotion, Chanwoo refusing to use the safeword even after knowing his own limits were being pushed), but here we see each of them doing what they should be more responsibly and I hope they continue to be responsible and open to communicating about their feelings and needs.
And that almost made me cry (▰˘◡˘▰)
IKR? it was so funny to read those dumb trolls bs XDD
It was honestly incredible how much they were trying to push it- basically saying that bc Chanwoo had been abused in the past, he didn't know what he wanted wasn't capable of making decisions for himself...even though he said that as soon as he was hit he dumped the guy that hit him and we see that he purposely refused to say the safe word just so that MD wouldn't "win."- oh and we see him actively refuse to listen to MD's orders so we knew that he was capable of that.
Maybe it was due to bad writing on the author's part, but despite his circumstances, Chanwoo isn't a completely traumatized or misguided victim who doesn't know any better, he's actually a pretty tough and prideful character, and from what we have seen, he has shown himself to be unfazed a d more than capable of choosing what he wants. Now we finally get to see him allowing himself to understand his own limits and I'm really happy to see that.
same! it drives me crazy how they keep claiming Chan is a fucking baby that can't decide shit! it was sooo dumb, I can't even.....what the hall ╮(￣▽￣)╭
in this case I think the readers are just too young to read this and too naive.
I see all people who tried to talk any sense into you wasted their time.
I agree. A lot are at a really impressionable age where they basically just spit out what they have been hearing without giving the individual situation and the facts alongside it a second thought. This is for mature audiences only, but many of these people are underaged and too immature to be able to handle these themes or even to separate fiction from reality.
We are talking about real life issues and it's disturbing how people justify and make excuses for abusers.
? This is a fictional story and the writer has created Chanwoo as a character that does not respond the way people expect an abuse victim to, and because of this, she establishes that he is sound-minded enough to be able to make his own choices and decide for himself what he wants.
If this was a real life case where the Dom did not listen to his Sub's safe word and physically hurt him out of bounds, I'd agree, but it isn't.
Chanwoo had dumped every abuser thus far immediately after being abused and even got angry at MD for treating him tenderly after it, implying that until the moments leading up to his safeword, any "abuse" was permissible by Chanwoo. The very moment that Chanwoo called out the safeword, MD stopped all play and cradled Chanwoo with no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
I'm not defending any real life abusers and if you can't differentiate between the specific story I am talking about along with the facts within that story vs. Outsidw real life cases, I will no longer respond to whatever you have to say.
I will quote because this post explain it nicely:
We all know that BL logic dictates that they get together after this but I really hope they don’t.
What MD did was fucked up and honestly Chanwoo wasn’t in the wrong. He went to ask his Dom for permission to date because they had agreed to keep a strictly professional relationship. He wasn’t planning on dating behind his dom’s back which shows he really respected MD.
But then MD uses the other sub who just betrayed and hurt Chanwoo to hurt Chanwoo even more. I don’t want to believe that Chanwoo just used the safe word out of just jealousy. Sure there was probably some there but he only started crying when MD smiled. In Chanwoo’s eyes MD was enjoying Chanwoo’s misery and was putting so much emotional damage on him of course he was going to break.
To simplify Chanwoo’s tears as just jealousy would be dumbing down this horrific situation MD forced him into. Yes, forced him into. Sure he could have said no, but he just lost his boyfriend who was a traitorous scum and he was about to lost his Dom too if he didn’t go along with this. Also who would want to lose their partner to their betrayer? MD knew that no wasn’t really an option so he happily hurt a Chanwoo for his own self satisfaction. I don’t know too much about the BDSM world, but I’m pretty sure putting your sub through this level of emotional abuse is a big no and no amount of aftercare can really make up for the shit MD just pulled.
But MD absolutely shouldn't create situation/play where sub feels obligated and pressured because of conditions.
And him internally panicking over Shin's possible feelings for the Duke made me internally SCREAM.
I love him so much.
The kiss at the end actually didn't feel right tho...Shin, I know you have good intentions, but you're really messing with my boi's heart.
For the first time in many..MANY updates, I stopped the chapter with a big smile on my face! I love Lucas and his long hair and his cute jealousy coming in and taking a STAND. Also, I'm glad we finally get to see Athy showing how much her father's visits with Jeanette are affecting her- I'm liking jeanette less and less(she's just so one dimensional and boring, sorry) and I feel really bad for Athy. I was rereading chapters pre-amnesia and I'd honestly forgotten how precious Claude and Athy's relationship was because it's been that long but man, I miss that.
Completely agree. Like, since the beginning of season 2 every chapter was living hell. The more Jeannette's dull interior monologues covered chapters and chapters, the more I found the story not worth of my time. Plus I'm still angry as fuck because as Athy is suffering and questioning her father's love, she never once denied Jeannette to visit Claude. I don't remember tho Jeannette doing the same for Athy in LP or when Athy was a fugitive. If I'm being honest, I'm 100% sure that not even Athy wants Jeannette as a sister, despite finding her cute. It is enough to see how she reacts every time they meet, feeling like she is the second choice. I'm here praying the gods that they don't adopt Jeannette at the end because that would be fudging unfair. I mean, Athy doesn't want her as a sister and Claude sees her as less important than furniture. Even if she obtains the Obelian imperial title she will never be part of Athy and Claude special relationship and she will only be an homewrecker third wheel. That's why I hope she goes far away with her father. But the author really likes her so I have the feeling that it will not end the way I want and Athy and Claude's characters will be destroyed to give Jeannette her happy ending
The author really likes her?? : dude she's so absolutely dull and I agree, she makes me want to stop reading this story because I feel like it has become about her and she just isn't worth reading or writing about. If she gets adopted in the end, I'll honestly rage. I used to like her because she was just a cute and sweet character but now I've come to realize that aside from her sugary sweet personality, she's also either incredibly and annoying dense or just plain selfish with how little consideration she has towards Claude and Athy's feelings towards her and their situation.
I genuinely think people who aren't mature enough to separate fiction from reality and only want cute and fluffy stories shouldn't be reading adult work.
If it's not you cup of tea, don't read it, but there's nothing wrong with anyone else if they enjoy a story that crosses moral boundaries that shouldn't be crossed in real life. It's fiction and if you are old enough and mature enough to realize that, there is nothing wrong with enjoying it.
Pay attention to tags and if you wanna complain about every story not matching your boring cookie cutter sugary romance guidelines then find another genre to read or make your own stories.
Exactly!! U took the word out of my mouth (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
its not my type of story.
Only because it made me laugh more than it should have.
you don’t have to be “mature” to “understand it” when it’s just garbage lmao
lmao if this was a hetero story yalls would hate on it so much but because it's a yaoi its "sooo good, amazing"
Preach lol
I don't need cute and fluffy stuff, but please, just a bit of logic? The uke is dumb, and seme took advantage of him. End of the story.
If you read it more carefully I said mature enough to understand the difference between fiction and reality
Actually no, it happens just as often in het than it does in yaoi or yuri, and it's the same thing
then again, just not your cup of tea. This is referring mostly to the amount of people screeching in the comments about it being unethical and therefore a terrible piece of work and how there's something wrong and disgusting about people who do like it
maybe because.... that’s true.
still, that’s not what’s needed to under this story. even if it’s fiction, it’s still fucked up and being mature enough to “understand that” has literally nothing to do with it.
so liking any piece of work that isn't squeaky clean- any psychological thriller, horror, twisted, darker themes that may all contain unethical or taboo circumstances makes you a bad person? Yeah, okay. I'm done here.
you can like stuff like that, but calling people immature because they can’t “understand it” makes u a bad person
once again, misconstrued words. I said understand the difference between reality and fiction- meaning the people who look at fictional stories and think that the same things in real life will and should always apply to those in fiction and then attacking them and their moral character for their FICTIONAL preferences. If you can't understand why people like something because you don't like it, yeah sure, do your thing, but if you are seriously so immature that you can not see the difference between fiction and reality and especially when it comes to mature themes, then you shouldn't be reading it.
bruh wtf. i know the difference between fiction and reality but that doesn’t make it any better.