If you're rooting for Mr. Mizuhara then you're rooting for someone who attempted rape and also thought he was an actual shota, and if you're rooting for the brother than you're going for incest and also- since y'all are always like "dOn'T SexUAlIzE MinOrS in FiCtiOn" you're also rooting for an illegal couple.
There is no winning in this if you try to look at it from a real life ethical standpoint. So don't. It's a work of fiction, the cover OBVIOUSLY implies incest and possible shotacon (in terms of looks) and if it's not something you can handle, DO NOT READ IT. If you're smart enough to go on rant about ethics, you should be smart enough to understand that this is a work of fiction and the moral standards in real life won't apply here.
they're busy trying to look cool with them bringing life norms into work of fictions but they're just looking like bunch of edgy social justice warrior
Very true, smh. Like- people disliked what I said... but what part of it wasn't true? I feel like if you aren't mature enough to handle mature content, you shouldn't be looking for it.
Shin is amazing and absolutely respectable, and I trust him completely but-
I feel so bad for Wolfie, man. He's so in love and infatuated with Shin that he puts his blind trust in him no matter what, but Shin really doesn't seem to love him back- more like, "yeah, I like you enough. Sure." You know? He has done so much for Wolfie, and from the comments, he's apparently going to do so much more, but it feels like rather than out of affection, he's doing it to keep Wolfie in power as a king because he knows the kingdom needs that, and he's just trying to accomplish his goal since he was a child. It all feels so impersonal from Shin's side, and I wonder. If we'll ever get an actual heart-felt moment between the two that isn't just wolfie throwing his love on Shin and Shin sort of just accepting it.
The story itself is amazing and the plot is easily one of the best I've seen in a web comic- BL or not- and I give mad props to the author and artist.
Their relationship is absolutely precious to me and they're all such cuties (Tw T ) I love hen sm and Ivan has become such a sweet boi...I only feel a little bad for Mr. Kim, since it seems he's only now been coming to the understanding that he actually likes hen after all that time that hen was so into him, I kinda wish I could have seen something spark between them just to see how it would go, but Ivan and hen are just the best
I meant to like, im sorry
Lol, no worries ^-^
But to be honest, Mr.Kim and that guy that looks similar like Hen are really hot ヾ(☆▽☆) wait until you see the next next chapters!
I actually hope this guy treats my baby chanwoo like trash like all his other bfs and I know that's mean to say but I want MD to swoop in and make him feel loved and get chanwoo's stubborn head out of his ass
This story was so well-done and honestly so beautiful. I loved that each character had their own unique personalities and complicated pasts, and handled things in their own way. They were so so human and that's so hard to find in a work of fiction- especially yaoi. They were so heavily flawed but yet still lovable characters, and their mental illnesses were depicted so well, and their romance was so realistic and I just shdbshshs
A relative I was really close to died soon after their 10th birthday due to leukemia so the cancer part hit me really hard and I didn't expect to sob as hard as I did, but man...the author got me good. 10/10 would recommend.
Smh at anyone who tries to get angry about yaoi or anime fans who are attracted to/sexualize "minors" that are drawn to look like 20+ year olds and yet gets uncomfortable with this man who IS 20 but has a child body- this is the point people try to make. If you can see a fictional 14 year old with double D's in revealing clothes and get angry at people for looking at them sexually because they're a minor, then you need to be able to look at a fictional 20 year old with a younger body and allow people to view them sexually because they are an adult.
Ofc I mean this for fiction only but-
If the FICTIONAL character looks and is treated like they are an adult, people will find them attractive bc in their eyes, they look like one. You're drawing an adult and slapping a young age on it because you have that freedom as an artist.
On the other side of that same coin, you could draw a child and slap an older age on it(which to me is far more "enabling" to a pedo or whatever). And yeah, it might feel wrong because THEY ACTUALLY LOOK like a kid, but if you are gonna call people pedophiles for looking at an adult looking minor character in one way, you have to be able to accept that a person is not a pedophile for looking at a child-looking character who is an adult that way.
Sounds so backwards, doesn't it?
The point I'm trying to make:
These are fictional characters and no one is actually getting hurt by any of this at all, so stop calling people pedophiles or bashing people for their preferences because these are just characters that someone drew and could have put any age they could have wanted because it's not a real story and they aren't real people.
Personally, I only get uncomfortable when a character who is a kid and looks like a kid is sexualized because something does feel wrong to me there, but it's fictional so I still don't think it's illegal and I'm not gonna go calling you a pedophile because so long as you aren't looking at actually real life children or minors that way, then you do you.
I agree!!
Amen. (=・ω・=)
Anyone crying out "yaOi RomAntIcEZ RApE" or whatever has to understand something: you're dealing with a character who is clearly a sociopath and a character with a twisted personality, and both aspects are acknowledged on both sides. It's obviously not meant to be taken as a serious love story or a model or other romances. Both are absolutely twisted characters, and this is just a story. Still, if you're able to have an open mind and understand that it's a work of fiction, it's sweet in it's own way, and the crazy twist of character is fascinating!
Personally, I love it when seemingly sweet or innocent characters go full on yandere for their loved one, and I actually shamelessly love Harada because she often does this. That is, however, because I'm mature enough to be able to separate fiction from reality and be tolerant of other peoples' tastes even if they're they're different from my own so long as they don't harm anyone in real life, and not because I'm some horrible person who condones rape or kidnapping or anything irl.
Theres a tag and it says yaoi, yaoi is a subcategory for romance going along with bl...so yes it is romance and they are romanticizing a toxoc relationship. So readers have a right to say that it is romanticizing rape cuz it is, if they wanted a sociopathic or psychological story they shouldve thought twice and labeled it psychological not yaoi, cuz then their putting out sick stuff like that acting like its cute. Also yes it is fiction, but yu have to know what youre doing and as an author the fact that people think there is such a thin line between romance and thrillers or horror mangas is such a pet peeve for me thas why i hate the killing stalking fabdom too like its such a good story but they ruin it by romanticizing it. But yeah thats my view on it and many other people feel that way so i feel like this comment doesnt make any sense to me But yea everyone has different opinions and tastes
It's romance because they develop feelings for each other and have a love story of their own, even if it's a twisted one. I don't know if you know the definition of romanticizing but it does not mean to make it into a romance or love story, it means to make it seem like it's better or more appealing than it actually is. Romanticizing rape would be if the story made it believable that rape itself was genuinely pleasurable, romantic, or sweet or the action of rape was an acceptable way to show love, but it's not the case. They are both toxic characters, and one forced himself on the other, but because the other character was blatantly twisted, he not only accepted it, but reciprocated it, then they chose to have a relationship that worked for them. You don't have to add a tag to know, as a reader, that these weren't ordinary people with ordinary tastes, and that their romance wasn't a model for a healthy relationship.
I also was talking about how people say YAOI specifically romanticizes rape, which isn't true at all. Lots of yaoi stories do that, sure, but 90% of straight hentai is much worse, lots of yuri is forced or "accidental", and plenty of shoujo anime ACTUALLY romanticize forcing yourself upon someone else because they try to show a cute or sweet couple where the girl thinks it's romantic and okay for the Male to force himself on her. And there's a lot more of that then yaoi.
Well, what you and other people like you don't get is the fact that ROMANCE WITH TWISTED PLOT ALSO OFTEN HAPPENS IN STORIES OTHER SEX ORIENTATIONS. So I agree with what @Kurokurage said. There's no such thing as "romanticizing yaoi" cuz (again) it also often happens in every other sex oriented stories.
I wish there was a way to upvote replies lol
Oh and FYI, yaoi doesn't only mean sweet romance between males. Looks like you really need to improve your vocabulary comprehension more. So let me explain it to you.
1. YAOI MEANS SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN TWO OR MORE MALES.
2. Shounen ai means romantic relationship between two or more males.
3. Romance genre is the kind of story that include romantic relationship between two or more people despite their genders.
4. Psychological genre is the kind of story that involves psychological case or thinking in the story.
In short, your saying (So readers have a right to say that it is romanticizing rape cuz it is, if they wanted a sociopathic or psychological story they shouldve thought twice and labeled it psychological not yaoi, cuz then their putting out sick stuff like that acting like its cute.) is completely bullshit and unacceptable. What's wrong with labeling a yaoi AND psychological stories as YAOI? It's still yaoi for fuck sake. Although if your complaint was the absence of psychological tag, then I would've agreed with you. However, you seem to misunderstand that yaoi has to be all happy, fluff, cute, and innocent. If anyting, that would've been shounen ai instead of yaoi. I hope you won't misunderstand these terms again and make an unvalid argument again in the future^^
You knew the premise and still decided to read- it's a fictional work, get over yourselves and read something else rather than whining about it when you obviously knew what could happen. No, it's not illegal, because it's FICTIONAL. No real middle schoolers were harmed, so get off yout high horse(btw, middle school age is up to 14 in Japan and I knew plenty of people who were having sex at that age so like shut up to those who try to pretend 14-17 year olds are pure angels).
Not saying I was totally comfortable with this, 'cause I know I wasn't, but I knew what I was getting into to some extent or another and even if it wasn't my cup of tea, I can see that the art was really beautiful and the mangaka wanted them to be happy in her own way. I just won't be reading anything similar in the future from now on.
I was having so many high hopes for this bc of the spoilers I read for the novel but I'm so SICK of Jeanette- like she's just too cutesy and sweet and BORING and just a family wrecker at this point and I'm just...I don't dislike her but I'm tired of her presence. I miss Athy and the relationship she and Claude spent so long establishing. I'll be waiting for like 5 more updates before I come back to this lol