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Anyone actually ship the prince and Tia it just looks so awquard. literally so cringy and anyones better than this awful match up like they have zero chemistry. Lol I just wanna know if anyone actually wants whatever this relationship is
The author wants it, period. Nada. zip. Kekw
I mean yer but its so forced, literally no charcter development for romance besides the other love interests and this guys like why dont you love me im a victim my dad never loved me but you had a really nice mum so i was i was jealous but what you dont want to marry me but im a prince, im intested now that she seems awcard around me and does not want to marry me
Does she end up with the prince?
U didnt get that from the sparkles once he said something nice to her in the first few chapters none of those sparkles and sunshines for any other love interest. But yes spoilers always say she ends up with the prince, gets married and becomes the empress. Yay not like staying with a jealous brat who has the face of your original tormentor will make their marriage unbearable at all.
Thank you for your reply!
If anyone has a question i can try to answer as i really like the plot.
Also is the villain boy drinking blood otherwise why would he ask for the blood of the guy who said he would seduce mc after marrying her sister. I am shooketh after that just came out of knowwhere(⊙…⊙ )
I think the dudes blood he drank is a troll, cause he said holy water is poison to him but troll blood heals him
Yer i just read it but he said something else so that bit i dont understand
He sent her a gift as her as queen, yep that dont bring back memories of being in hell. Your trying to corner her you braty prince aint ya, by god she does not need a pushy love interest withe the face of her rapist. This is disgusting only good points are art
If u have questions I could help as it feel s like i understood it more than a lot of comments.But yes the storytelling needs some work but it was a sweet story and if you wanna know whos dating who the older brother and mc are dating as the mc said this is a different kind of warmth which meant that he loves the older brother in a romantic way now.
And what happened to the younger brother? I wanted to start reading it, but I really don't like love triangles
He became an idol and idols cannot date. This aint an extreme love triangle as to me as they dont really have fights over him. So yer the older brother got with the mc and the mc got over his crush.
Thank you (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I hated the prince more than this black haired girl, and why is she pretending she didn’t see Tia be murdered and cast out of society every chance the prince got. Jieun watched all the shit that went down and still has the gaul to say stop pretending you want the throne. She wasnt with Tia while growing up so how does she know she doesnt have trauma like u wouldnt want to end up with the same face as your rapist for a husband for what power, Jieun u and that bratty prince deserve each other and let me ship red boy who might be able to talk sense into Tia
Ikr! Jiuen is acting like tia "won" how is getting ur head chopped off "winning" i want someone to punch some sense into this annoying ass bitch
When will she realize that Ruve wasn’t worth cutting ties from her family and her original world... If I was her, I’d get the hell out TT-TT. I won’t want to associate with Vita and Ruve after what happened, but no, Jieun’s too hellbent on revenge. Tia doesn’t deserve this shit.
You should try reading the novel. She may seem like a bitch (actually she is) but she was 16 years old in a game of thrones setting. She didn't know batshit. The beginning of the story was in Tia's narration so people shouldn't judge her indefinitely until you've read everything. Not that I'm justifying her. Just that you'd hate her a bit less if you read some spoilers or better yet the entire novel.
I hate the mc more tho she has no sense and is stupider than a brick, if she had brains she wouldnt let ruve cry into her lap at the funeral, she making him seem like a victim when in fact she should be the one crying in someone elses. She should have way more trauma cause nothing changed besides hes a bit nicer now, how can she allow him to sleep on her and cry and than wake up in his bedroom. Gurl he raped you, at least give me some beleivable evidence that u dont just forgive him. Jieun may be bitch on the outside but I dont freakin care if shes a saint on the inside Tia keeps on letting people make them seem powerful and say horrible things to her but than acts like they are the victim.
I see want u mean, tbh I have felt that tia's has gotten real soft. At least in the 1st timeline she seemed cool and sure of herself. In this one its very obvious to see how someone like jiuen or Zena is effecting her and getting under her skin. Like damn girl remember this is politics you gotta work on that poker face. I feel like a lot us were expecting tia to be a badass knight who isn't gonna take this kingdom's shit anymore in her 2nd chance of life. But instead she's just "nicer" and while I think its great that she's bonding more with her father and making new friends she starting come off as weak and clueless with her behavior related to ruve and being a empress candidate. Its sad that her Time with the other 2 guys seems to have been cut short now just so she has to interact more with annoying ass jiuen and ruve. I also don't like that it seems she's falling for ruve again even though he's BARELY DONE ANYTHING!! Just ughhhhh noooo ! Ok I may have to accept that they end up together in the end but I am going to be so royally pissed if she ends up falling for him 1st. Nah noo I want this bastard his knees, I'm already mad that I have to watch jiuen and tia be some weird "rivalry " over ruve. Just why? I mean from what I saw in the spoilers both girls ended up losers.
Yer i agree I just want some actual connetion not forced plot convenience between tis and the bratty prince. Theres a lot more chapters so I heard so I hope the prince i gets into a situation where Tia can bond with him and there actual be more anything than a scared rich boy. Like dont get all persistent just when Tia doesnt want to marry u. Even if they do marry, i want an after of the prince and Tia miscommunication again cause they both quiet and idiots, and Tia divorces him for a guy who actually tries in their relationship. Like the red head or even the green guy would be better, cause hes at least looks after her health
Sadly, both Carsein and Allendis canonically married at the end and they’re definitely not going to abandon their wives for someone else (unlike you know who.) But tbh I ship Tia more with the high priest more than Ruve. At least he doesn’t trigger her PTSD and makes her feel confortable.
the novel states he's like a totally different person. especially when they have kids. he gets really angry when his daughter keeps wanting to play with carsein's son. it's so adorable
what??? the high priest?? lmao i'd rather not he's like how old. probably the same age or older than her dad considering he knew jeremiah and is indebted to her
Yes, and Christian and Ana from Fifty Shades of Grey are definitely in a healthy relationship because the novel stated so. And Jacob and Renesmee are meant to be together even though he literally imprinted her as a baby, because the novel stated so.
Yeah, you’re right. The age gap would be hella gross so the high priest is out of the picture Σ( ￣□￣||) But Tia literally had so many guys that would cherish her and not have any negative memories with in the oast timeline.
your point is?
Actions speak louder than words. Just because an author tries to portray something as romantic, doesn’t mean readers will be convinced if they consider previous events and actions that the author described and applying it to human emotion.
it depends entirely on the reader and how they're able/want to interpret the author's words. why are readers who used to hate ruve stan him now? why are readers still hating ruve despite knowing the spoilers? you can't control a person's outlook which is why persuading someone to share your views won't always be successful. because people choose what they want to believe in and ultimately what they consider romantic. so if people choose to accept ruve and tia's relationship despite the past, there's nothing wrong about it :)
The main reason why readers went from hating to loving Ruve is because they see him as a different person from Ruve in the past timeline and the poisoning, which means he’s free from any responsibility for traumatizing Aristia since he’s “changed.” So basically, the current timeline Ruve and the past timeline Ruve are different characters to them, making their romance more digestible. I DO agree that people have different views on romance and they have agency on their opinions. But it’s funny, since you know the true severity of mental health on Lady To Queen yet not apply to it to Abandoned Empress :)
I see mental health as utmost essential in all generality. It's something I'm very passionate about but I try not to give it too much angst in fictional stories. The difference between them is that Lady to Queen basically centers on the ML's mental health but Abandoned Empress focuses on the opposing faction towards the monarchy. As much as I'd love to point out all the disorders and complexes Ruve has, it isn't the main plot. Lucio however makes a whole impact in the whole plot itself. The only reason why I was vocal with Lucio because in a broad sense he was more traumatized and I felt that. But at the end of the day I support BOTH of them with their respective empresses. Just because I have my own principles but don't apply it to fictional stories doesn't mean I neglect them. It's an time travelling isekai for a reason. I try to put that in front at all times ;)
I don’t think trauma should be measured since it’s going to hurt someone no matter what. Although the main obstacle in the Abandoned Enpress is the aristocratic faction, mental health played a huge role into Ruve and Tia’s dynamic. Ruve has an inferiority complex and plenty of issues with his family, which was why Ruve was envious of Tia since people praise her all the time. And I was focusing on Tia on the mental health issue, since you know, House Monique had fallen in the previous timeline and she lost her life, child, and hope for a new life since Ruve abused her. It’s not like Tia had amnesia as soon as she reverted back into a child, so she still had memories of the past timeline and most likely had PTSD.
And onto Lady to Queen, Rose is definitely an awful person but that was a result of being raped by her brother. But everyone knows that it shouldn’t excuse her crimes and the many people who died because of her, yet why is Lucio excused when he had the authority? I think both Rose and Lucio should be held accountable, because even though they both suffered from horrific living conditions, people still died because of them. If mental health was an excuse for, then plenty of murderers will be innocent since they also had a dark past.
The only reasons I support Lizzy and Tia to become empresses is because they’re the true rulers of their respective kingdoms and it’ll go into shit if they end up leaving. And that’s not a good look on Ruve and Lucio.
Okay, so I realized I have missing words in my repoy, so I’m sorry if you don’t understand what I’m saying. I wish we can edit replies orz. But yeah, murderers, child abusers, rapists, etc. have dark pasts, but they still traumatized other people and sadly became the antagonists of other people’s backstories. I prioritize whether they know what they’re doing is bad and repent their actions, not just the cause. There are people who have mental illnesses yet they end up being amazing people, and they shouldn’t be grouped up with the former.
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U all make good points, I have been replied loads of times saying trauma isant the focus of this but to me that sounds so much like an excuse. The reason this gets on my nerves is that Tia had so much done to her, if the author just toned it down a bit while also making Ruve horrible it would have been better when she just made the decision to not have any sort of trauma and sugar coat the hell she went through. Just give her something other than sugar coated words and a clingy love interest, from what shes been through I wouldnt be surprised if she commited to killing herself, even in this timeline since she has to spend the rest of her life being tied to, in any time line, a toxic relationship.
I agree. I’m not sure about the author’s mindset and why they chose Ruve as the ML despite. If they wanted to make a “misunderstood good boi,” the author could’ve just made Ruve neglect Tia and then do the classic condemnation and banishment, and after that Tia would get killed by bandits from the aristocratic faction on her way out the kingdom. Not only would it make more sense for Ruve to try to make her leave and keep her safe, but it can also downplay the literal abuse he inflicted towards Tia, making it more easier for people to ship them. Idk how Ruve or Kieran would think that MAYBE Tia will try to get vengeance after being told her dad died, but okay Yuna (the author), that’s definitely a plan without any flaws :/
And I hate how these people keep saying “it’s in the past” or “he’s a different person” because Tia didn’t freaking lost her memory before reverting back into a child. She has memories of her past and that past had a huge role on Tia’s perception of this timeline’s Ruve.
It’s no wonder the ending was so controversial to the Korean audience...
It feels really sloppy, like all over the place. The author makes ruve extremely terrible in the first timeline. Horrible to the point that it causes tia to have this fear/trauma of him in the 2nd timeline. So it's knowledged what a monster he was. But then she starts to fall for him again........even though she said she wouldn't do that again if given a 2nd chance.........and when he really hasn't done anything worthwhile. I mean if the game plan for the ending is for them to still end up together the author would have to make ruve so good to tia that it completely cancels out the memory of what a complete monster he was in the 1st timeline but that hasn't happened yet and we're 100 chapters is so far already with really no redemption. Or the author shouldn't have made ruve that terrible to tia in the 1st timeline, if he had just been neglectful that would have still been bad but not soo bad that tia would be traumatized by the sight of him. And It might be easier for the readers to forgive him and give him a chance. Unfortunately the author sets ruve up in the 1st timeline as much worse, he's not only neglectful but also physically and verbally abusive. I don't get how the author expected readers to just forget and forgive ruve, let alone root for him ,when the beginning chapters show this same character smacking the mc straight in the face. Seriously what were they thinking? And then that little "poison " bs excuse pffftt ok suuuuure there's a "poison " that makes u physically violent towards only one specific person ok
wait what happened for the korean audience, but yes to be honest I know this is a webtoon and fictional but even in yaoi victim dont forget trauma just cause of sugar coated words from the love interest, there is actual events and even thoights from the victim to the reader why they still have trauma but are willing to at least talk to their tormentor to get them closure.
There’s actually a lot more hate for the ending in South Korea than in America. I think even the Ruve side-story with his POV in the first timeline wasn’t well received there. But Abandoned Empress is still popular enough to get a webtoon, though.
If you look at Ina’s (the artist) Instagram, you notice that all of her posts had the comments disabled. https://instagram.com/ina_hangatic?igshid=1thwfbavnvdac Normally, you’d assume that she did so that nobody would spoil the manhwa. But if you look at other manhwa artists’ Instagrams, they kept the comments open.
Mini (Doctor Elise):
https://instagram.com/mini__mini__ii?igshid=1a5n7n1l8e7nv
Suho (La Dolce Vita di Adelaide):
https://instagram.com/leesuho_ss?igshid=1arcw1ryxxc9f
Spoon (Who Made Me A Princess?):
https://instagram.com/spoon_1122?igshid=68pnqhc1l10a
Abandoned Empress is just as popular as these series, so why did Ina disable the comments? I can assume that she got a lot of hate since there were warnings in her bio, which sucks because she wasn’t the one who wrote the original story.
um hey I saw people who didnt like all the love interests but why the guy the mc wants to date after 3 years (i forgot his name but he likes food.) but i ship the mc with the guy who he had a very cute and normal relationship with.
from what I took from the story was that yeah at first they had a (somewhat) normal relationship (mc was still thinking about the little brother) but then after the r@pe scene the kid ended up really messed up. and since the mc went through so much when he was staying at the mansion their reconnection sort of was a light of hope(?) but it really wasn’t. I don’t think they would have ever ended up happy together and their relationship after meeting up again was not healthy. none of it was meant to be happy or healthy. (this is also only how I view the story though!!)
Not that I despise this annoying brat of a prince but she deserves better, she went through so much torture and still has the mental scars from it. And now in this life she has to stay by this brats side cause he wants her too, and let me just mention the only time Ruve seem passionate about caring for Tia is when she outright says she doesnt want to marry him.
I KNOW OHMYGAH i know it’s supposed to show how magnanimous she is that she can forgive people, but like... he killed you. and even somehow you can get over that? he killed your DAD. your baby. like GIRL. stop being a stupid bitch and pick red sweetheart.
I think her and the prince honestly misunderstood eachother. They both went through some tough stuff and without talking about it, suffered even more. Which is why this time around things are seemingly better since they figured out they weren't what they thought they were
Misunderstandings shouldn’t cause I. DEATH, ma’am, especially when you’re married to the woman who can competently run a country. He’s such a terrible character like— he KILLS HER and everyone she loves. And if that isn’t enough, he cheats on her blatantly and publicly. Like???
yes finally someone talking sense but baba_bl, misunderstandings are fine and all but she got physically and mentally abused thats sounds like an excuse just to find something to forgive him. Even in this timeline he was jealous of her his entire childhood and just doesnt give her space. Does she really neeed a person with the same face as her rapist, saying y dont u want to marry me over and over again. She gets no closure in this story or trauma and if misunderstandings between them can lead to such a hellish life for her, why does she marry him when all he is is quiet and only says stuff when neccesary, im sure marrying him will lead to more minor misunderstandings and shell b in the same boat as before, these two are too similar with how standoffish they are, that it will always break them. If i became a character in this story guess what I would kidnap Tia and take her to a differnt country where she could start something meaningful, Oh and bring red knight guy as defense and those two can love happily ever after protecting that new country.(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
i’m glad you agree! people really out in these streets saying “no he’s changing it’s ok.” he is a murderer, ma’am. a MURDERER. he’s gonna need to do more than “change” a little bit to be forgiven. he needs to leave her tf alone.
yes even if hes a whole different person dont just forgive him after some sugar coated words. tia is ignored completly cause her trauma just gone, in this latest one she says she doesnt forgive him then y are u allowing him to act like hes a victim, by crying in your lap. Where is your closure for what happened u havent cried about it to anyone and he gets to cause his dad died.
Should i drop this, Tia has completely forgiven that bastard. Oh and dont say hes different, thats not the point, that was an abusive controlling relationship it dont just take a few nice words to stop the memories of rape, it takes action. Not a single quality about this new bastard can make Tia have closure, he was jealous of her his entire childhood and got interested when she didnt want to wed him. I would have loved a more well rounded plot about getting over trauma and becoming at most friends with that bastard not full blast bipatbopateboo u have feelings for him too on top of your traumatic memories of him. (●￣(ｴ)￣●)
She hasn't forgiven him for that (￣∇￣")
um do u know what it is like when you dont forgive a person who has tortured you, you dont want them on your lap crying because their the victim. She has forgiven him a long time ago, when she fell for him again. There is not any evidence that shows she hasnt forgiven him, but the whole plot shows she has acting like the past was not that bad and thus herself making the prince seem like a victim, cause of all her stupidity.
ig that makes sense
I hope I didnt seem aggressive
Nah don't worry bro
a woman who was verbally, physically, sexually abused by him, had her only remaining family killed by him and later on he kills her too... it just doesn’t make sense for her to even consider him as a love interest. Like I adore the art. I just wish it wasn’t wasted on romanticizing such a terrible love story and pushing away psychological trauma like cake. In reality, anyone who went through what she did would literally have their skin crawl going near their abuser, changed or not. The only acceptable answer for their relationship is Stockholm Syndrome (which btw, authors stop making SS be a love story because abuse ≠ love) but I see so many readers defending him like it was completely natural for her to fall for him. Idgaf if he was drugged or whatever nonsense. SHE was going to start her second life away from her abuser and that’s the premise that is promised. Not to excuse his shitty actions and go for the “love conquers all, even all the shit he put you through!!”
This comment hit the nail on the head. I read it at first cause I thought it would be a revenge story or at least a story where mc gets closure however its not and there is no trigger warning(⊙…⊙ ) , I mean seriously should have one as it doesnt take long for Tia to start talking comfortably with the prince. No hate to Ruve but its just way to artificial
Yeah the first time I read it I forgive the blue haired guy(forgot his name) , but rereadungt eh beginning NVM HES A WHOLE ASS!! I totally agree with you.
But I think tia is just gonna end up with him in the end , but I wish she could end up with carsein there so cute together!! （/TДT)/ AHHH!!
I totally agree with you even though the present Ruve didn’t even know anything about his past life. But still Tia was just sooooo blinded by love. I kind of hate the story but yet i still cried reading it.