The violence the uke inflicts on the seme....it's not romantic or cute. Wtf!!? It's horrible. So the uke understands that the seme is broken inside, has a lot of abandonment issues and low self esteem and he takes on everything, even the betrayals of other people without complaint and yet uke's solution to everything is unrelenting violence? Tf? Uke decides that seme should be arrogant and nasty with everyone else but himself? He wants to empower him and give him confidence and yet beats his ass for trivial reasons? So he gets angry over stupid unsubstantiated things and that justifies the beating he gives the seme and the seme takes it? The hell is wrong with you writer??? I hope seme dumps his jerk ass. On the verge of dropping this shit.
I am down ten chapters and I am hating it. Is there more rape and gangrape coming? The weird ass art isn't helping. Should I drop it?
i like it. i dont remember there being more
Phew Thanks for telling. The MC looking like a sad clown in almost every single panel is also taking me out but I will try to ignore his dumb looking mug.
The only character that was gang raped was the sister and it wasn’t shown in any detail.
Kirin gets assaulted a few times (but not raped).
The revenge part (and all these guys) see gone by chapter 35.
The the plot moves to the post-revenge.
In the second story, why is nao actively pushing his friend to that girl? Like it's so dumb. I get that he thinks his love isn't reciprocated but they are still best friends, that counts for something. His friend said he likes her but when she asked him out, he didn't wanna date her, but Nao is acting like their cupid, lol. Distancing him, sure that makes sense, but not the other stuff.
Okay but this was a good read. Uncomfortable in places but realistic and nuanced.
Y'all were trying to play telling me it will be a long wait and that it's been on hiatus for years. It's been less than a month. Well hope the chapters keep comin!
??? It has been 7 months… at least for me
Haha no I meant it's been less than a month since I read it. I got invested in it and made a post about it and people wished me good luck about the investment because it's been on hiatus for years.
Ohhh haha well, let’s hope there are no more long hiatuses till it’s done
The ML and two or three other mob bosses look The Same. I am trying to follow design and dialogue but they all wear dark suits.
The MC was a kid. An orphan. Desperate. With no help, no support whatsoever. His father was the crook not him. He didn't deserve any of it. A redemption arc of the ML won't suffice. Just straight up homicide. I don't understand how the MC even survived for so long and still had love to give. MC fuck him up and then leave his dead ass and start your farming or something. Taeha would deserve all of it. Fucking asshole. I hope MC's father rots in hell too.
Taeha didn't hit Aeil because of the tattoo, he hit aeil because aeil mocked taeha for not being able to protect the MC despite the fact that he acts as MC's owner. It wasn't about the MC, it was about Taeha, which basically implies Taeha cares more about the impression he makes on others rather than the MC's own integrity and well being. Which is what makes the MC slap him, he knows taeha isn't doing it because of love or affection, he is doing it for power, possession and control.
...I'm not sure why the artist decided to alter part of this scene, from how it was described in the novel.
In *the novel* ( https://flyonthewalls.blog/story/the-foul/vol-6-ch-4-2/), Taeha's possessive "kiss" is more of an uncontrolled, devouring *bite*!
Directly from the novel:
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"Without warning, he bit into my lip. His teeth tore at the soft flesh like he wanted to devour me whole.
“Direc—ngh!”
The metallic tang of blood filled my mouth as he worried the wound. Every time I tried to push him away, he punished me by ravaging my tongue and lips even harder. The pain would only stop if I submitted. Rage burned in me—I refused to be crushed under his strength.
I slapped him across the face.
The sharp sound echoed, the sting reverberating through my palm. I hit him again. And again. But my fury wasn’t spent. I would’ve kept going if he hadn’t caught my wrist. My lips and mouth throbbed so badly I could barely swallow, forced to cradle the injury with my hand.
My shoulders trembled.
“Are you out of your mind?!”
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(...In the elevator, the MC notes that the "cut" to his lip is "deep")
Yikes!
wow....... And thank you for sharing this oml
yo, thanks for bringing the novel to my attention!! i think i like it a bit better than the comic, seems much more descriptive about their feelings
You are welcome!
(I check for novels all-the-time, now!)
Yes, exactly!
(I, too, love it when someone posts a links to the novel in *the comments*--and it's even better when they let us know *where we are* in the novel!)
*Sorry, for my *empty* reply/replies...
I used emojis--and I guess that causes an empty post!
...Now I know.
Hi so sorry to bother but I was wondering if by any chance you knew where to find the other volumes(づ￣ ³￣)づ
For the earlier chapters try:
https://18.foxaholic.com/novel/foul/
...*Novel Updates* is always a good place to start a novel search...
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-foul/?pg=3#myTable
Dayum Seonu be avenging me for everytime I screamed at the ukes to show the semes their place and they just laid down on the ground for the seme to bulldoze them. Yeah Seonu, pow pow that pretty face.
The twinkification so extreme, uke started to look from age appropriate to a literal child.
The twink hate is so forced that y'all be calling anyone child atp he looks feminine and pretty but def not like a child brotha
PREACH
Check the new chapters. Then check your eyes. Such dishonestly
Lol you are the last person to have any objectivity for this manhwa.
he does not look like a child i think you're just deranged and sees everyone as a child that's weird tbh
Girl wut? （/TДT)/
Y'all are so blind in the name of your favourite manhwas, you have no objectivity left. It's self evident, it's literally visible. I don't have to prove anything. Maybe take your head out of your ass.
Can't read?
I did infact I've been checking the raws even before this got updated on here and i still don't think he looks like a child but well you do you fam better stop reading if ur uncomfortable about how he looks
his eyes look bigger so maybe that’s why you see him as a child but he still looks like an adult plus he doesn’t act like a child either so it’s not like this manhwa is promoting pedo stuff ..
Whatever man, you do you I ain’t tryna get into another war over this…again (⌒▽⌒)
Lol You don't have to look at raws to check visuals dude you high or something? You are no one to tell me to stop reading anything just because i criticize your favourite shit. Just learn to take objective criticism without being an ass
the word you're looking for is 'feminisation' not 'twink'. he's already a twink from the start + the ml is way taller. twink is a body type, just like bear, twunk, otter. i need you people to learn more about queer terminology than just running away with the word and act as if its degrading to be a twink.
Lol it's pretty evident who's being an ass here .well keep reading then igs
Okay yeah, that's my bad. He was a twink from the beginning, that's right. But he also doesn't only just look more feminine in the recent chapters, but also much much younger.
And sorry not sorry it's hard not to resent this type of 'twinkification' or 'feminization' when it is so widespread in this genre and takes away from nuances, variety, diversity and character's own dignity. So many of these ukes start with average body types and age appropriate features and dwindle into the same body type and face. Most readers including me don't hate this specific body type but hate the commodification of it for the sake of fan service. Kindly acknowledge the nuance
Yeah it's pretty evident.
Smart. Why get into a fight you know you will lose.
So you agree that his design was changed? Also look at how you put things, the denial lol. His eyes 'seem' bigger because they are bigger. And they are bigger because the artist started to draw them bigger. What does that imply? Who has big eyes? When you draw children, what are the features your draw differently to show them like a child?
Sure he doesn't act like a child. But my post was about looks and only looks, like it clearly says. Your comment about it not promoting pedo stuff looks like you being defensive over your own suspicion. Heh y'all are so transparent fr.
"Without being an ass?" ptfff LOL! You're the last person that should be saying that...So far only you've been an ass.. Pathetic.
Typing words don't necessarily mean they mean anything. Develop your mind. And start examining g things objectively. You aren't indebted to the author or the fans. Have more integrity.
Trust me.. Saying that now is very hypocritical.. You've been way more aggressive than the one's who don't agree with your Statement..Give it up already.. You aren't Woke
Lol I am giving back what I receive. Your bias is so evident. People in the comment section literally used personal insults against me first. Did you expect me to show my other cheek to them too? Listen, if you had any objective reasoning concerning the subject, you would have just talked about that. But all you did was used unprovoked personal insults. You replied to a comment I wrote for someone else, and that comment of mine used a well reasoned approach but that's not what you reacted to. When people dont have anything meaningful or reasonable or intelligently examined to say, that's what they resort to, petty name calling. I would advice you to stop uselessly arguing with me and learn to sharpen your mind and eyes, develop your intellectual perception and reasoning. Then maybe you will be able to engage other fans meaningfully and both sides will get something out of it. And you will end up being more discerning of media, you will also appreciate and enjoy it more.
it really isn't that extreme. making the eyes slightly bigger doesn't automatically make him look like a "literal child". artists also use big eyes to indicate a character is pretty. which is the entirety of the shoujo genre.
people weren't annoyed you were criticizing the feminization of bottoms. they were annoyed you were overexaggerating and implying that the author is promoting pedophilia. it doesn't help that you've been condescending and pretentious this entire interaction. if you really wanted to start a conversation about how feminization takes away from a character's dignity maybe you should have started with that. kindly acknowledge the nuance.
Hey is it possible that he looks younger to you because he no longer wears a lab coat and the situation makes him look more vulnerable? Just a guess but that could be a factor.
Hey is it possible that he looks younger to you because he no longer wears a lab coat and the situation makes him look more vulnerable? Just a guess but that could be a factor. (=・ω・=)
@yorozuya.
Convenient that you blocked me after posting your comment. But no mind.
Nope you are wrong about what you said in your comment. the uke wasn't drawn with big eyes initially. And neither is it just about the eyes. His initial designs were much more balanced and even though his appearance was twinkish, like you noticed, his eyes were normal sized. Later on, the artist made his eyes set more wide apart, took away the self composed expression from his face and made him look way more vulnerable, and gave him sharper cheekbones and pointier chin. And all of THAT made his features look much younger and feminized.
And this isn't the first time I have talked about this issue on this platform, I have talked about this issue many times before about different manhwas, you can check my profile, and so have others on this platform so i didn't think it was necessary to repeat myself. People on this forum know what this conversation is about.
Not even a single time did I imply anything about pedophilia. that's entirely your own assumption. I ONLY pointed at the youngification of the uke (if used the incorrect terminology which i acknowledged). That the artist started making the uke look like a kid is a self evident fact, and just because i make that observation doesn't automatically mean I am implying supposed pedophilia.
As for the conversation, I am replying to comments here and talking about the reasoning in proper detail in the comment section as readers are posting their comments. Isn't this how online discussions go?
Anyway I am not especially concerned about sounding condescending and pretentious, even though I am not deliberately trying to sound like that. But irrespective of what you say or think, the readers on this platform aren't particularly perceptive or rational minded, I have seen the most ridiculous and brainless takes here on a daily basis so forgive me for being cynical. Lol. Anyone who talks sense or talks about media objectively here would run the risk of sounding condescending. But honestly, better sound like that than sound like unthinking troglodytes.
No. He looks younger because the artist changed his design and started drawing his eyes bigger, set wider apart, with sharper cheekbones, pointier chin and changed his pretty self composed expression to way more vulnerable and helpless. It's not about how 'I ' look at him, it's how he was drawn. Which is as typical of fanservice in this genre as it gets.
that's great sweetie
Guys, its still talking. How do h shoo this one away
@yorozuya
Lol okay thanks mom. Love how you blocked me but still can't resist commenting.
it feeds on the sound of its own mouth while trying to convince itself it's the most objective thing in the room while also looking like the most biased
Oh yeah. When you can't engage meaningfully and intelligently with people, dehumanize them and make them sound like 'uncivilized barbarians'. White naz* supremacist is that you?
Tch y'all are so devoid of actual thought, you don't even know what you are doing or saying. So sad.
@yorozuya
Ah do more of this dehumanizing other people because you have no thoughtful counterpoints and nothing meaningful or objective to say. Throw more personal insults at them instead of actually talking about the subject, ad hominem arguments after all are the essence of a rational discussion. Y'all making Trump so proud, awww. Lol
I love it when wide-eyed innocent ukes get devoured by devilishly-handsome morally questionable semes. Delicious He definitely has some big eyes but he also has a big adult body and doesn't actually act like a child would, so I think it is safe to say you can read this and not be too worried about it. If you don't like it, then there is a novel. That way you can get the full story while imagining the uke to look however makes you happy