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^^^^This. The issue isn’t the rape per say it’s that it follows the model of every other omegaverse but gives a false appearance.

The cover is literally Tsugumi with his nipple showing. I have no idea why you're saying that we're desperate for sex scenes either. That's so rude I barely know what to say. This is hentai and you're reading it too, so I don't understand why you're even saying this. It's so pointless.

Once the tag says "omegaverse" and "yoai" at the same time something like this is going to happen the author can still change the story to subvert, and omega yaoi really isn't "realistic" if a problem like this isn't addressed or delt with and also this IS hentai its just gay hentai hence the word
-yaoi- (〜￣△￣)〜

Lol this isn’t hentai, it’s smut. Which means it’s more plot based than actual porn and is censored upon release, it’s the translators drawing the dicks in. It’s supposed to be a story that features sex and intimacy, not just a straight up porno where the point is to get to the sex scene ASAP no matter what. People wouldn’t be angry about sinking their time into it otherwise. I can enjoy porn, even porn with a rape premise, when that’s what I’m in the mood for and signed up to see. But when the story set up makes me believe I’m going to get otherwise, I’m NOT in the mood and I take it more seriously than just some porn. Also, stories and characters can be sexy without sex. Showing a topless man isn’t explicit. If you’re offended you need to get over yourself

Again, no, Bl is not hentai. It’s smut. Hentai is explicit and isn’t censored. There are only dicks here because the translators are drawing them. This isn’t sold or marketed as hentai in Japan. Smut and Bl as smut is supposed to be more plot based than straight up hentai where the only goal is sex. In bl and smut it is a FEATURE, a key one, but not supposed to be the center of it because it is still supposed to be a story first. So people will judge it more harshly. People choose Bl over hentai for more in depth characters or storylines. If I want to go read gay/Yaoi HENTAI I can easily. Y’all just confused because some actual hentai is uploaded here alongside the Bl. If it was originally censored it’s smut. If it’s typically shorter, more sex based, and uncensored by the original artist then it is actual hentai.

"If you’re offended you need to get over yourself" excuse me, why the hell would I be offended by that. And yoai and BL are so different, BL is identified with >>yaoi<< and >>shonen ai<< in the tags, with plain >>yoai<<, people just come for the sex, with >>shonen ai<< >>yaoi<< and >>smut<< it is just harder core yaoi with story.

BL is a general genre that can fit into many categories, and it describes the relationship between two or more men. "Hentai" is the drawing or animation of sex. Therefore, BL HENTAI. There is no such thing as BL just being smut, that's bullshit. "Smut" as you say, is sexual actions or even sex itself. Also, hentai can be censored or not, it depends on the publisher and distributer.

But Viira Megumi offered Tsugumi suppresents which he refused. Mainly because he feared he would end up forcing himself on Tsugumi. He wanted to AVOID this situation. But Tsugumi still did not comply. In our world rape occurs by people who aren't controlled by anything but rather choose to do it. Whereas in an omegaverse your decisions and choices are heavily depended on the heat and how much you can control your instinctss until you finally loose control and act upon them.

I don't see how you can blame Megumi one sidedly when he tried to avoid this situation. He didn't choose to so when he was sane.

That people should go read basically the same type of sex that everyone in the comments right here is reading?

The manga itself calls it rape. Both of the characters whole beliefs systems are based on the fact that they believe what just happened to be rape. So what was your point again? Literally building up to this each character has described the scenario here but between different people.....as wrong, immoral, and FORCED. It’s why they so strongly believe what they believe. And yet I’m supposed to believe that despite these boys knowing what world they live in, omegaverse, and knowing exactly how it feels to be under the pheromone control, that somehow this exact scenario where they both mentally are saying no that it’s not rape? The alpha would have known better than to even go near him in this scenario, the author chose to shit all over her own characters and story. Her choice doesn’t make the scenario any less of a rape no matter how she tries to spin it after this. She can make excuses all day long but at the end of the day she fucked up her own story with shitty writing and made this rape as she has described rape in the previous chapters...so to act like it’s any different now just because the leads might be a little interested in each other is BULLSHIT and everyone reading should be smart enough to smell it from a mile away.

A diff commenter is the one saying they were offended not you

@todonagi I’ll just leave this here since you blocked me from responding to your comments....weird since you say you like to debate on your profile....last I remember debates involve listening to both sides, not censoring the opinions of others but lol OKAY. And lmao you’re so wrong where do I even start? Bl smut is what most yaoi is. It’s censored and released via a manga magazine, not as a hentai book. Hentai can be censored but it still looks and reads quite different than this. Yaoi is usually not hentai, but there are Yaoi hentais. Non hentai Yaoi is smut. Like this.

You're still viewing the omegaverse world with our world's view. How rape happens in our world. But omegaverse and the real world are different. In omegaverse people are heavily controlled by heat and you completed ignored the part where I said Tsugumi refused to take the suppresents which could have avoided this whole mess. Please address this part.

[The alpha would have known better than to even go near him in this scenario]

You know not everyone's willpower is the same and none of us can actually say what we would have done UNLESS we were in the same position. None of us can surely say anything. How 100% sure are you that you would have been able to control youself if you were in the same position? But you have never been into one so of course you can't say for sure. They were locked in a room, none of them were able to get

Ok thank you. As I thought, I definitely don't want to read this.

Because having to meet a person who would force the kid to get out of his bubble and be accepted despite his disabilities that has haunted and damaged him for years, be useful instead of just being treated as abnormal, is a good read. Albeit all the negative things you pointed out.

Dude that’s such a bad fucking interpretation lmao. You must be a minor if you really believe that. You’ve clearly never seen the effects of abuse on children. You can’t cure a kid that doesn’t trust people so much they can’t stand to be touched by abruptly holding them down, stripping them, then licking and raping them. If you want a story about getting somebody to challenge their world view and supporting them through that healing process THIS IS NOT THAT STORY and should NOT be given the credit for doing something this story did not do. The story did not accomplish what you just said, at all.

You are boxed with what you know. And you are generalizing instead of going into the details of the story. The kid knows that he's dealing with a bad crew when he got assaulted. But because someone forces him to go beyond his disabilities, remember a name and face that he usually just doesn't make any effort to, the kid's face lightened and agreed dealing/working with them.

The issue is that the kid's disabilities have always been ignored and just deemed as weird. No one tries to give him any shit, even his own parents. He finds a guy that does. To him, it means the world to have one person to give you shit. It could've been in any other way instead of dealing with Yakuza and getting assaulted but the point is the kid found someone who wouldn't ignore him. Imo, the story achieved that. It's not supposed to be a fluffy and inspiring story, it's more of an irony.

Just to add, the purpose is not to heal the kid and make him a trustful and functioning member of the society. He just needed to be able to cling onto someone and find change from the life he settled into.

This is such bullshit. No, it is not about helping this kid in ANY way. It’s about a selfish fucking pedophile. Grooming an abused or neglected child into clinging to you or being dependent on you to deal with their issues is not in any way okay. Having an unhealthy dependency on another person to deal with your emotional trauma does NOT help you, it fucks you up worse. Just because the kid seemed happy or even thinks he’s happy does not make it reality. Many sexually abused and exploited children love the person assaulting them until they get help or grow into an adult and allow their brains to fully develop or they reach adulthood and from their adult perspective now are able to see just how gross and wrong the relationship they were in was. If it were a good story the kid could have had somebody to trust and support him WITHOUT raping him or touching the CHILD in any sexual way.

Right, so at least you admit you think what makes the story good is how the kid gets groomed by a pedophile. Cool...cool...that’s literally what you just described.

I am coming from the perspective of the kid. What he could be feeling and thinking. Whether the guy was good or bad, the fact that he wants something different from his comfort zone is a feat, he has found something to spark up his life. For one, he's a teen and a smart one but so unmotivated. He feels out of this world because he thinks names and faces are what connects you to people but he learns it's not the case. Eventually he'll learn how to be with people and work around his disabilities, maybe he'll eventually decide to work on his situation being held by a Yakuza. He is not dumb, he knows how disgusting humans are. He is not blindly clinging onto someone, he is fully aware of who he is dealing with all for the sake of his satisfaction. Should he decide to change his current situation, it's his choice, but at least now he is thinking of choices for how he wants to live his life than not giving a shit at all.

It is a good story for a one shot. It established a character well and scenes flowed well. This is a story, not a manual on rehabilitating traumatized kids.

Whatever you want, you are so protective of a kid who hacked a Yakuza's system for his past time. It's his choice to trust the guy. He chose to trust a guy he fully knows is bad because he found it's better than nothing for what he has now. So yeah he chose to be groomed by a pedo. Happy? It's a good manual for codependency. People should read it for reference if they ever want to do it too. But it's not a good story, after all good stories should only be inspirational and give examples of good morals. Forget about style, flow, character design, development and dynamics, etc. Good stories should only be "good". Sorry we never matched. I was more on the character development of the kid than the morals of that development.

I’m reading it as somebody who works with children and actually knows how kids, neglected and abused kids, feel, act, and talk. This here is pure fantasy and romanticized and fetishized rape and pedophilia. Don’t act like you’re seeing the child’s perspective, THE CHILD ISN'T REAL. A grown ass adult wrote this nasty shit and sexualized abuse of a minor for a very poorly written one shot. An ADULT wrote a child to make it seem like he would act and feel a certain way that is not only unrealistic but is harmful to both adults and minors reading the story.

Do I literally have to say ANYTHING about how flawed your argument is? You know why kids can’t choose and consent to sex???? Because they’re still developing. Their brains literally can not comprehend serious shit like is shown here. They’re still learning morals and about who they want to be. 13-15 year olds are still in the phase of development where they are concerned with themselves above all else. They can’t make serious decisions because they don’t understand the choices they’re even making. That’s why even the law goes easy on them. This isn’t codependency this is an unhealthy and abusive relationship. Don’t blame a child for being abused because of choices they make. They literally can’t do anything for themselves legally, like even getting jobs. They’re completely at the whim of adults.

Why so serious?
It's just a manga.
Not the real world,a manga is based on fictionalized characters and plot.
So why do you have to go and put things that happend to real people to judge a fictional character
Sorry,my english isn't the best.
But the author of this story like many other author didn't make this story thinking of a REAL person's feeling
Why?Because this is a fictional story not a slice of life or real life based story.
I hope you don't find this offensive.But chill a little.

It does matter though. There’s plenty of studies that show the negative impact of this type of fiction being circulated. It’s also why you won’t find this serealized in most countries, because this would not make it past many censors. Japan literally sells child porn. That’s not legal in th US. Something like this work would be considered child porn in the US, for example, and would be considered too sympathetic to pedophilic philosophy. It romanticizes and normalizes rape and pedophilia by pretending to be about romance and growth. Plenty of kids use this site and seeing this DOES warp their perception of reality. Many kids already think it would be fine for them to be in a relationship with older teens (18-19) and adults, but those same kids grow up and realize how fucked up the people dating them were because they know how gross they acted and can now realize the manipulation and grooming that they didn’t notice as kids. Work like this IS dangerous because if you say this is simply a romantic or erotic story pedophiles that read it feel safer and like acting like this in real life wouldn’t be that bad because everyone else is saying how good the story is in comments. Fiction does have real life effects. Read any study on this lmao

I know that.But if someone really makes anime their reality,sorry for being blunt,but they are stupid.Anime is Anime not reality.People Romanian a lot of things,good or bad.How it effect you,is non of my business.I don't care if you make it your reality i don't care if you start to think this is normal.Do you know why?? Paso enta mi business(literary means ain't my business where i'm from language)
This is why they put description and make it 18 plus.I know what you mean about kids thinking that it's normal to have sex at the age of 18-19.But I have a friend who has autism who watched Hentai anime,got curious and had real sex.Content doesn't matter.People are curious by nature.The world ain't make so everyone can feel comfortable.If you don't like the story, ok. If i like the story,it's also ok. Because for ME anime is anime not a reality.I thought myself that since small.
I hope that are debate ends with this letter.Reason is because,you can put your feeling into this when you read it and think of other people.I can't i don't care about other peopleand that's okay because God didn't make us to think the same.Bye bye

Yeah dude, nobody is talking about you. Talking about the minors reading this on here and the adults reading it thinking it’s just smut when it’s not. It’s irresponsible to create content that hurts children. That’s why child porn is illegal and other certain depictions that aren’t even as explicit. It’s why even child actors have rules to protect them, even though whatever they’d be doing is acting and not real. I’m not even talking about how it effects ME, I’m talking about caring and being responsible for the other people and especially minors on planet earth who don’t deserve to have people think that it’s “hot” to emotional abuse and physically abuse them. Have fun believing in your bullshit religion and pretending that just because you don’t hurt kids or see hurt kids that they don’t exist. Your god makes it all okay right? Saves those tortured kids little souls and of course punishes all the bad guys after they die and have already hurt tons of people and cultivated a society where little kids don’t get justice because those same losers perpetuate the idea that them “not looking their age” and other excuses makes abuse not their problem? Yeah go ahead and fuck off because you know you “opinion” is fucked and flawed and that you’re contributing to some messed up stuff.

Oh and ya know, acting like calling people that equate fiction with reality stupid is a good excuse. We literally use fiction to teach kids morals, manners, and even school subjects. So when they’re reading and watching dramatized fiction based on real life and have never experience the things depicted.... yes, they do think the things they see are more realistic than they are and that doesn’t make them dumb. If you never had sex before and all teen fiction only talked about it as being great the first time and never painful kids are going to think that’s accurate. And pedophiles watching pedophilic anime don’t think it’s real, my point was that it makes them feel OKAY about the idea of abusing kids because the show makes it seem mainstream, cute, and harmless and normalizes it, so they don’t take seriously how bad the actions in those shows are.

My English isn't the best so i don't know how to explain.
1.I don't support rape where the victim gets a traumatic scar.Because "No" and "Stop" means "No" and "Stop".
2.Rape is Rape doesn't matter how you try to put it or romanticize it,it is still rape.
3.A bad act will forever be a bad act.Doesn't matter what good comes from it.
But this isn't what this manga is about and the suppose victim doesn't even take this as rape because he knows this was going to happend.They didn't put this as a slice of life because it is fictional it should be take as something NORMAL to do.That's why i said "people who make this TOTALLY UNREALISTIC SCENARIO AS NORMAL are sick and stupid.This is a manga and not reality.And you're right,people do use animation to teach. BUT THEY ALSO USE LAW TO PUNISH BAD ACT.A manga about stealing,a manga about rape,a manga about paedophile,all of these thing are against the law,summarizing that they're bad act that should be done.That is why i said if someone makes THIS to be their reality They. Are.Stupid.The animation that you where put to watch when you were small,thought you must of that.Paedophiles know that what they are doing is against the law.Rapist know what they are doing is against the law.I do understand that you find it disgusting how they Romanians rape,I do I really do.But i don't take this (rape) as something normal to do.I may not be as studious and informed as you are,but i can know the do and don't .If they would have put this as a non fiction slice of life manga i would have been furious.But i think that people who read yaoi or any genre in anime should already know what's about to go down.You keep taking about we're taking rape as a normal activity but have ask those who said they like the manga if they take these acts as normal?
No one said they liked that he raped him.But it was a must in this manga for the character. Or else He would have a bond with the other character.But is it The same for everyone,NO.
Pleas go and think.Was the rape really necessary for the main to form a bond with the other main,we don't know,go ask the author.But if we wish it was avoid, yes.But in this story it wasn't. And why would a kid be reading a yaoi manga....well I'm in no position to talk ,I'm only 16

Also,I don't know about other viewers.But I'm looking at character development and plot flow.Not contend
Like Tokyo ghoul,the centipede episode.Do you it was avoided,yes.But it was a need for character development.
I views are totally different; you're looking at contend.

Rape was not needed for character development. A romantic and sexual relationship with an adult was not necessary for character development. Come back and re-read this when you’re an adult and you will understand everything I have said. Saying that the stuff that happened in this manga has anything to do with character development or plot is exactly what I’m saying is bullshit. The plot is just a shitty romantization of mental health issues, rape, and child abuse. The “plot” is objectively bad, whether you liked it or not. This is not meant to be a story, it’s porn. It’s smut. It’s not about anything but the sexual content and all that “character growth” is the authors attempt to raise the stakes and make her smut focused story a little more interesting and different from other smut. This book would be wrapped in plastic and not sold to minors if it were in a bookstore because it is smut and porn before it is a story. It’s marketed as smut, it was sold as smut. All the plot bs you keep quoting is literally just a half assed story line for the sake of the two characters getting together and fucking as soon as possible. Like...just stop and come back to this when you’re in you’re in your 20s. Come back again in your 30s. You’ll see how nasty it is.

Doesn't matter how you try to explain it i won't say it was either right or wrong.Yes,it wasn't even a good plot, Yes it was just smut.Where do you think people who like Yaoi are called fujoshi or fudanshi.You ask someone answers.Many agree with you,and some of them just don't care.Like me. That is why i said,this debate should end.You read this thinking of finding good content but didn't. But i don't care about good content,i care about the flow of the story so i can compare it to another 'trashy' story and see which one is better.We will not come to a agreement because i feel like I'm talking to a wall. I try / and understand you.But you don't even try to understand me.Do you think i don't know any of those things, I do but i don't care.I will say it again BYE BYE

Lol @sena doll wanted the last word so badly that they blocked me from reply to them anymore. Aight little girl, think that’s enough said on your part. You only feel like you’re talking to a wall because despite LISTENING to you and hearing your point I will not bend and say your point is even a little bit valid, because it isn’t. You can say you’re done and don’t care all you want but in the end you’re the one who left replies all over my comment thread. You opened the door, looked around, then chose to walk in. Maybe you just overestimated yourself, but it’s weird to say you don’t care when you chose to reply to my comments FIRST. If you want to stop replying then just stop, blocking people from just goes to show you can’t even back up your argument (probably because you realized it’s bullshit)

Yeah if this was to be re-enacted in real life, all the characters except Akira would be hella sketchy. I read it as a fun sort of manga after reading some Harada so I just ignored how pushy everyone was(￣∇￣")
Though yes, I definitely wouldn't put this under romance coz Chihiro was the only one in love and while Akira might've been developing SOME feelings by the end (when he went to save him, not him being drugged part), he was kinda just going along with it during most of the chapters in the manga #－.－)

Yeah irl this would never be seen as okay. Especially drugging someone to further their relationship. Consent is important but I’m pretty sure everyone who reads bl understands to separate fiction from reality

The problem is that it is not illustrated as a problem. We are not supposed to question it because as readers were supposed to be fine with whatever as long as the characters get together. I for one think it’s gross when rape culture is just grossed over as a plot device. That doesn’t mean I don’t read or like stories with rape in it. But I hate stories that don’t act like it was rape when a rape happens. I mean even haradas stories don’t pretend they aren’t fucked up. I hate it when Bl paints itself as fluff when it’s really not. If you wanna write a twisted story do.

* glossed over

Very true I love twisted stories they’re actually my favorite. Now that u mention I have read a lot of stories that act like it was rape. But the writers will do whatever they want it’s their story. However I do hate the fact that they use rape like why can’t they think of something else. Rape shouldn’t be treated lightly so I completely agree. I usually just ignore the fact they used it as a plot device bc it’s not like I can change the story.

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