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U took every words that i wanna say but im too lazy to type comments. Yesss that right

I just thought that Hamin stopped him cause he was a no violence type of person and that was one of the reasons that he left the gang. He also does want that label of being a violent guy. I don't think he was trying to protect the bully specifically, he just doesn't like violence plus the situation also involves him and he doesn't want anyone to get hurt because of him. (Doesn't want to feel guilty) It's like the flash back when he asked his father if they're part of a gang and he was like nah but who told you. When he froze, beside the oh we're gangsters I also think that he thought, oh shit I can't say anything or his dad was gonna "get rid of them".
Because of my image of Hamin being a no violence type of guy I can never imagine kicking someone that's down. But ofc he will throw punches if someone makes the first move on him like he did in HS days.
I also think that Hamin doesn't like violence cause he doesn't want to be like his dad.

But yeah Hamin needs some defense moves and is predictable

Nah, he left the gang/his family because he wanted to be normal. He didn't have any policy against violence, he didn't want to be treated as a gangster (which I don't think was the problem? He was being bullied for fuck's sake, id they really saw you as gangster, they wouldn't fuck with you. It's a plothole I can't wrap my head around even now...idk it doesn't make sense. Either they should've avoided him and that's why he's like this or that they had beat up his so called friends and that's why he hates his family, but he was literally bullied with a gangster family behind him??? Make it make sense, haribo-sensei. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
He's not non-violent, he's just a lil dim-witted and simplistic minded. He was inadvertently saving his own bully and make Sehyuk look like he was the one was the asshole lmao.
He wants his own conscience to be clean at the cost of his own self-esteem lmao. He's a masochist...
Anyway, I'm personally super disappointed by the way this story just turned....so damn cliched smh

(〜￣△￣)〜 glad you agree bruh

Hello. Where did you find the spoilers?

Ah threads on the novel on twitter and reviews on blogs. (〜￣△￣)〜 they're in korean though.

Ok thank you

I hope it's a happy ending mad dog, pay back, irreversible and Park Hanhoo's manager are the only manhwa's keeping me alive ngl

Hahaha oh sweety we are in the same boat hahaha for me, checkmate is also up there with semantic error. ヾ(☆▽☆)

can u please link down below ╥﹏╥

can you give us some spoilers :)

I just finished the novel. I actually quite loved it. I'm so happy for matsuouka he went through a lot but he is happy now. Both of them are.

You bought all the 9 volumes and already read them? Lucky~~~
Also, mastuoka who???

Noooooooo. I commented on the wrong chat!!! I'm sorry. I wished I could read all the novels of this webtoon. But I was speaking about a different one. I'm so sorry

Hahahaha it's alright..I was like matsuoka who???? Hahaha

I was thinking about the connection of them too. I feel that because Kang doesn't remember why he was punished it could have something to do with San.

Yeah :((( maybe he was brainwashed and sent here for his crimes against heaven itself by aiding or protecting San.

I tell you I had this scene embedded in my head since the 2nd chapter. It's Kang lying on the bed, unconscious. Everywhere is dim and the only light source is the candle beside Kang's bed. And San is sitting beside him, holding kangs hand tightly near his (san) forehead-- somewhat praying .hoping that kang would be alright

I hate it to break it to you but something similar will happen at the end. They sleep in the same bed and San wakes up again and again in the night just to make sure Kang hadn't disappeared when he wasn't looking ;_; I tell you he's going to be WRECKED. Please prepare yourself ;_;

Can u pretty please link down lezhin's irreversible ╥﹏╥

I read it as hyung ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

May I know where you read the novel? Is it translated in English?

is there a novel? If there is, can I have the link plz

No it's in Korean. :)

It's only in Korean yet. And you have to buy it legally. (▰˘◡˘▰)

Send me the link of the korean novel pleaseeee

THANK YOU FOR THE SPOILERS!!! I’m so looking forward to this

I don't think it's available in an ebook format. ╥﹏╥ hopefully with the popularity of the manhwa, they'll release it officially in ebook format. It's hella worth it.

You're welcome! It'll be really really good. Everything about this is simply wonderful. My favourite SamK-nim's work! (づ￣ ³￣)づ

You forgot to mention....
"What is the capital city of Lithuania"

Hey. Did you read the whole novel? Because i have also the raws of the novel in Korean but i can't speak and/or understand Korean so i use Google Translate to get by but certain parts of the story are not that clear to me. Can i send you a message to talk about this novel to get some more understanding of the story?

I SMILED AT THE WHIPPPPPEEEDDD AHHH

Sameee

Hahahaha one of my most favourite things Jay has ever said! he's so cuteeeeeee

Why shy spill some more

....oh, I'll probably post more with the upcoming chapters since the characters haven't been introduced yet. :)))

Thank you very much for the spoilers.

But I have to say that the Seme is the archetypical superior arrogant untouchable bored lonely illogical alphahole with some forced tragic backstory to make him more sympathetic and to excuse his toxic asshole behaviour.

I do realize that this story is full of non-innocent fucked up characters and it served as pure escapism but I dislike this power dynamic the trope where the struggling Uke/FL meets that brooding psychotic violent manchild Seme/ML, has become his mistreated plaything/toy, to suffer more because of him until this Alphahole becomes so obsessed/in love with him with them that he will lovebomb them with very rich gifts or elitist privledges...
I ve seen plenty other similar stories already.

I can respect others taste and understand the appeal of dark messy toxic BL stories because I used to idolized these dangerous idealized romanticed Alphaholes but I am now 30 years old, did my research on any toxic or stupid tropes and realize that I don't want to enjoy this kind of Seme/ML anymore.

KILLING STALKING was quite the wake up call for me.

I am not here to criticize anyone here who likes reading it. I just wanted to share my opinion and the problematic aspects of stories like this.
Thank you for listening/reading.

Yeah I also hate those kind of MLs but they didn't say that the seme here will be toxic, is he gonna be toxic?

Um, a few things. Killing Stalking isn't a yaoi, as said by the author itself. This is why some people should stick to reading children's books. Please read it as a psychological thriller story than a yaoi one. It was never written as one.
Secondly, what you surmised from the spoilers of this story is quite misleading.
The story is about toxic things that happen in the entertainment industry, the toxic characters are the antagonists, not the protagonists so I don't know why you're getting these ideas from. They're extremely pitiful and complicated characters who come to terms with extremely fucked up situations in their lives by relying on each other.
I don't think you're hitting the mark on any points you tried to make it here, and seeing how you say you're 30, you have quite a teenager mindset even now it seems since it took you this long to distinguish reality from fiction.
Everyone has their preferences; however, I can assure you the seme is nothing like you just said. He isn't toxic or manipulative or anything of the sort. He isn't abusive either or forces himself on yoohan. I don't want to spoil it, but it will take him a lot of effort to make yoohan feel anything yoohan deprives himself of any kind of pleasure since he doesn't feel anything anymore, and he wants to die as well after he gets his revenge. So the seme actually makes him gets to open up his heart by showing him he can fall in love with someone though the uke denies it for a long time.
Way to generalize something you haven't read. Nobody asked you read the story. Please go read some shoujo mangas. (づ￣ ³￣)づ

No! He isn't toxic! Not by a long shot! Crazy people make crazy assumptions? (￣∇￣")

Omg can’t wait for see all this hotness, and cuteness in the manhwa !! Mr.Yoon is hot as hell, and I want him. Looking forward to this, gonna be yummy. I like good plot, I hope it’s yaoi since the intimacy between them would be insane - fire in the house ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

Hehehehe he is indeed very hot! And very romantic and sweet! He loves to tease yoohan so muchhhhhhh hahaha it will be a gradual descent into sex, but it will be very worth it. The build up is very satisfying and I love their chemistry so much. ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

Thanks for telling (TwT) I was getting anxious cause i'm really looking forward to this. This looks amazing ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

It is! Σ(っ°Д °;)っ the art by fujoking is the best thing that could ever happen to this novel hahaha. Yoohan naked (for a photoshoot) will be so worth looking forward to! Also their cuddling scenes AAAAAA I'm excited. ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

oh wow... im so excited for this. i love stories where there's an overarching plot that is more prominent than the romance/or goes hand in hand with the romance and this seems pretty fun. if i can ask for more spoilers, who confessed first and can i have more spoilers about their romance/sweet moments?

Though I do wholeheartedly I agree with your opinion on how trashy those kind of tropes are, I believe you should’ve paid more attention. The spoilers that shizu-chan gave us have said NOTHING about the seme trapping him, blackmailing him, abusing him, the seme even waited for the uke’s consent to have seggs (meaning he has no man child-like, tyrannical behavior). Also, it seems like the seme will not try to take advantage of uke’s traumatic past, but instead help him. The only dark toxic is part is from shitheads that are around them, their whole relationship doesn’t seem to be toxic to me.

I mean, the comic only started so like let’s see what goes on later in the story. And if you were correct that their toxic, I will apologize.

And also, yes, Killing Stalking was a journey.

Yeah the plot is very elaborate (?) Like the romance is entangled perfectly with the plot - not too heavily imposing on it or the plot overpowering the the romance.
Ah, yes. Confessing. Actually Jay (the seme) is very straightforward and flirty, and yoohan is really dead inside, so their interactions for the most part are push and pull kinda...the seme makes all the moves (the first kiss, the first handjob) except sex...which he lets yoohan initiate. He gives yoohan a week limit to think what he means to him, and confess his love to him hahaha. Yoohan takes a long time to open his heart - which start developing from the emotion of worrying about Jay's business (you'll see later) and his safety, and then into lust. It is very satisfying. Don't worry, there will a lot of sexual tension and fluffy moments ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
Jay is madly in love with yoohan and he never hid it at all. He's very protective of him and yoohan eventually gets moved by his emotions towards him and starts falling for him. It's all very romantic.
The plot is also very sad and satisfying.

How is the ending? I did read it by using Google translate but from what i understand, is that they will be living together or not? What will become of the manager and that subordinate of his? What was the reaction when mc finally met his ex, that crazy actor? Thank you so mcuch

Ahhhhhh I don't wanna spoil the endingggggggggg otherwise the reading experience will be ruined. That's why I gave spoilers only for the romance and the overlying plot. Yoohan starts really LIVING at the end is all I'll say hahaha. A true glow up. The extras or second book Payoff is something I've been meaning to read so I won't talk about it for now. I'll reread this book since the manhwa is finally out now. It's a happy ending anyway. That blonde bitch will pay for it dw.

Despite explaining reasonably your standpoint about this story and characters at the beginning the fact that you dismiss/undermine me at the end with "Way to generalize something you haven't read. Nobody asked you read the story. Please go read some shoujo mangas." says a lot about you...

I can also easily assume that you personally worship this kind of ML/Seme to the point that you will ignore other understandable counter arguments or make any excuses to defend your preferable character from any valid criticism.

It's a pity, that you would rather mock me then trying to respect my concerns.

We have to Agree to disagree after all.

please at least tell us if both mc will be together at the end , I dont need to know more. And please camp here in this comment section haha

Understably. Who Will fall in love first, the MC or Ml? Also what’s the relationship between the Ml and that ex of mc, that crazy actor? Have they ever met before?

Um, you haven't read the story. I have. You're the one making assumptions about the story, not me. Anyway, since you love jumping on conclusions so much, go find a trampoline instead.
Nobody is forcing you to read the story. I merely suggested you to read some fluffy shoujo story since you get easily traumatized by "toxic" storylines lol.
Thank you for giving your opinions though I didn't ask for them, but I'd rather talk to people who aren't looking for a moral grandstanding over a fictional piece of literature. Be on your merry way, SJW stranger.

Of course they will be hehehe.

ML, he has been in love with the MC for over 5 years but after meeting him again, he will fall harder. He doesn't know he's the same guy yet, but when he finds out, he is very very happy. He knows about it before MC does. MC gradually opens up. For half of the story, he's only concerned about revenge etc. Though he gets moved by ML's feelings and his handsome face of course lol.
No, but ML hates him because of his sponsor. They're both extremely disgusting human beings. He also hates the ex because he's jealous hahaha (he hates when the MC calls him by his real name, uh first name and he's like "I'll crush him for you in one day if you let me, just so I can fucking stop hear you calling his name so much and so often..." hahaha MC is speechless after that by how the Ml was pouting over this kinda childish shit pfft) and also because he caused MC a lot of pain in the past.

Maybe it would have been more correct to say: The ML "seems likely" to be...
Still, if you read search and read other stories, you will see this ML type over and over again.

But you also read the chapters how the ML/Seme treated and harmed the Uke at their first meeting?
Don't you think it isn't it problematic at all that this ML gets the boy after he intimidated, threatened, mocked, hit and manipulated him?
Their relationship started really violently and messy & not in a good equal way.

If you like this plot, I respect that. I just wanted to discuss this issue and hoping to get some good constructive answers.

I think I was a little to naive to have a nice little friendly and respectful exchange with "shizu-chan".

Thank you soooo much. What will happen with that crazy actor? Will he go to jail? And how was the first meeting again between the mc and the crazy actor? How did they react?

God, you're so ignorant and judgemental about something. I'm telling you the story or characters are nothing like you concluded to.... it seems you're traumatized by some fucked up stories you read in the past but don't conclude anything without even reading it. If you think this story isn't for you, feel free to leave.
You're the one making all kinds of assumptions and having an argument with yourself over something that doesn't even exist....I don't understand how or why you even came to such inaccurate conclusions lmao

Hahahah it's a funny scene. The blonde bitch runs away scared shitting his pants when he sees him. Actually he was targeting the MC without even knowing he was yoohan (just because he was close with president YOON, which the MC didn't know was YOON lol) but he runs away shitless. Though afterwards he becomes even more bitchy and causes a lot of trouble for the MC, like having him beaten up severely, which the ML takes care of...hmph. he gets very angry ofc. Don't worry. He will pay for his sins. He's super fucked up.

We all have to live with bad faith actors and very toxic fans.

But thanks to you I know why I shouldn't try engage with and how to avoid people like you in the future.

So it was a good lesson today, for both of us.

Oh ffs. Please get some help haha. You have some issues in understanding simple sentences and have a habit of making presumptuous assumptions about stories and people. Please go on Twitter or something and make a thread on how misunderstood you feel in this world surrounded by "toxic" stories and people and blame them for your own lack of comprehension skills.. (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Once again, thank you so much. I have only read 35 chapters out of the 300+ from the first book so I was very curious on the development of the characters. How is the mc’s acting career going? Is he that popular as a actor and how did he and mc agree to be a temporary sponsor for him?

Thank you so much Once again. After chapter 7 where mc threatened that man during the actor and we could see that the ml was behind that black window, how was he and the ml interaction afterwards? Also why is Ml that obsessed after only having had an one night stand with mc? What makes the mc that special that ml has been obsessed with him for 5 years? And will other people find out about their raltiosnhop and how did they react?

You don't hear yourself, do you?

I can apologize for upsetting you, confirm that I don't belong to this comment section and admit that I was reacting quite petty and should have ignore how you answered me & walk away.

But based on your previous responses towards me...
We are wasting each other time and energy.

You know what...
You mocked/patronized me and I took it too personal.

I am mature enough to let it go and let you have the last word.
I am sorry for having this childish petty confrontation with you.
Even when I felt wronged by you, I shouldn't have make myself to feel better by outsmarting or beating you in this comment section.
We won't bother each other in the future here.

Have a nice peaceful day.

He's going to be in a couple of movies and dramas. With Jay alongside him, his future is bright as the sun. Don't worry.
Yes, MC doesn't know Jay is president yoon. He thinks he's extremely close to President Yoon and decides to "use him" to get to president yoon hahahahaha he loans "himself" to Jay. But Jay only orders him to come to the club he owns, to show him movies and make him read drama and movie scripts and ask him to review them thoroughly.
He loves him because....hahaha well a couple of reasons. You'll see. Let's not ruin it. two hint I'll give: SLEEP, EYES. He's weak to his eyes. Also they leas equally miserable lives, in saving yoohan from himself, he falls even more for his strong and apathetic personality. They have a lot of similarities.

lol jay did say he liked the look of the mc's eyes after all (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ nice to see that they have a loving and interesting relationship. i didnt expect jay to fall first though since he seems like a cruel person. looking forward to seeing him trying to thaw the heart of our mc and win his love（/TДT)/

Ah...he's a complicated character with his own tragic backstory. He has a lot in common with Yoohan. Interesting is definitely a word I'd use to describe their relationship, though it isn't "lovey dovey" they're like two idiots in love in a way that is more like pissing each other off for fun and trying to get under the skin just to see the other lose their minds hahaha
They will grow to care about each other, though ML will definitely fall fast and hard, especially after he realizes Yoohan is the guy from 5 years ago. After that, he literally has no breaks on his heart. Yoohan is deeply wounded and Jay"s feelings for him and his care, love, and protectiveness towards him who believes he doesn't deserve anything good in this world from anyone, is what eventually moves his heart. It takes him a while to admit his feelings for him. ML knows how to "handle" yoohan when he's feeling unwanted and useless, and yoohan also is there for Jay when he feels abandoned and vulnerable (though he doesn't show it to him) anyway, they're super cute and I love Jay sm!

Wow. Thank you so much.

"ok I'll survive two more days with this"

Yes, he's holding back with his whole strength hahahaha he wants yoohan to admit his feelings first before they "do it" so he can hold back with only kisses until then. But don't worry, the kisses are soooo hot. He's literally pouring all his feelings into them, which eventually yoohan starts feeling as well. He notices the changes in his kisses over time. That kiss was my personal favourite, almost as much as their first kiss hehehehe. I can't wait to see it get animated(?) In the manhwa.

thank you for the spoiler omg i’m so excited to read the novel!! and this thread is so long omg i’m so sorry for you that you’ve encountered a karen here agsjjsjs the novel sounds nice will try to buy them now and //try// to use papago or smth TT is it the same title as the manhwa?

Yes, but unfortunately it isn't available in the ebook format yet. Hopefully they release it once the manhwa becomes popular. (づ￣ ³￣)づ maybe even a translation group will pick up. Until then I'll try to say some more spoilers in the upcoming chapters once new characters are introduced. I'm really looking forward to people enjoying this amazing story! Thank you for your kind words! (●'◡'●)ﾉ

awh :(( too bad. oh!! if you ever know if theres anyone is translating it, please share with us! eeek but hopefully they released an ebook version of it soon

Thanks for the spoilers, shizu-chan! I remember discussing Checkmate with you before and now I’ve found you here in Payback again. xD

Hahahaha great taste in manhwas as ever, tonkatsuramens-ssi! (づ￣ ³￣)づ let's have a blast reading these two masterpieces!

Of course I'll let you know. It'll be a big storm since many people are waiting for it in korea as well! (づ￣ ³￣)づ We can bless our eyes by Fujoking's heavenly illustrations here until then! There are many fluff and flirty scenes coming up that will no doubt be heart fluttering ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

woah this is so interesting

The story sounds so interesting can I ask about how long will it take to recognize him with the tattoo? Would it be in the close chapters or will take quite a while?

It will take a while I think, I read it years ago, but I know it'll happen when he takes him to his house for sleeping (actual sleeping) hahaha he'll see his tattoo there.

Oh thank you for the spoilers(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Can you answer me ?? How their first sex happened ?? it's like Yoon told to mc let's have sex and Yoohan accepted it ?? if that really happened then Yoohan was able to remember him? Or just Because Yoohan used to have sex with other ppl that's why he can't remember !!?

Can you answer me ? i heard that their first sex was non consentual ? Why did Yoohan run away ? He was scared ?

The comments said that the seme waited for his consent. Just read the entire conversation in this thread. You'll know everything in detail.

Oh okay

Thank you!! Also wtf that idiot person in this comment thread hahaha "he's not toxic" "I HATE TOXIC MLS" "good he's not though" "BUT I HATE THEM" ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~ You handled that well haha

٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ haha thanks~ I'd go to war for Jay's defense hahahah

no toxicness from the ML you say???? a dream come true

Yay thanks so much!!

Omg many thaaanks for the spoiler~ noticed the manhua is kinda slowburn type but that's okay hehe at least the story isnt rushed and well written with plot. Cos bl nowaways are just purely smut with no plot at all, bl like this are so very few

Anw seeing the 1st few chapters and knowing how seme will be soooo inlove, mesmerized and whipped to yoohan is ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ ... I knew it will the tattoo! They key for Director Yoon to know he's the Ji Hwaja he's been looking for!

this sounds so cute omg

Yes, he's a bit intense and straight-forward, but toxic isn't a word I'd use at all. Yohan is really dead inside to the point that it takes Jay being too straightforward and blunt to make him feel something for him - he has never forced yohan into anything, though he loves to push his buttons to make him annoyed and react haha he's way too flirty~~

Yes, it's a slow burn but it doesn't take them long to get the romance going. It'll be mostly from Jay"s side since Yohan is really dead inside and has no heart to be moved but Jay eventually makes him worry about him, so from there onwards he starts feeling things...yohan actually denies feeling anything and acts like he doesn't care about Jay at all, because he thinks he doesn't deserve to be loved or love anyone...but Jay will conquer him don't worry. (The sex/intercourse will also be initiated by Yohan - though Jay gave him a limited period to think about it or he'd move on from him. Yohan was being too stubborn about admitting his feelings soooo...yeah)

I'm actually kinda mad they revealed the tattoo so early on smh. It was done much better in the books~~~ ugh whatever. Let's see what else they'll change.

Only the body has ears. Cause he is half blood human beast

*blondie

Furry romance it is ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ