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Plus, fuutarou never saw minoru as a parental figure

This is not realistic rape. This is pure porm. Look, this ain’t uncommon. Ever read dirty old mob men stories? The ones who are serial rapists/nasty stalkers/gang rapers etc. They are a thing in pure smut comics. They do the nastiest shit (pet play, kidnapping, hypnosis and leaving them pregnant, blackmail and feminisation etc) and leave their “victims” a slobbering mess. There’s plenty of them out there, believe it or not. I get you’re not into this story but at the end of the day, porn is porn. It didn’t get you off because it ain’t for you, but someone out there did.

We have an issue defining "realistic". In other posts you were talking about realistic but you were based that on the perplexity of the story, the art and the depth of the characters. I do not disagree, but in this story while it is short we have a scenario that it is simple and probably happened in real life. Someone make somebody else dead drunk and raped him. That what I mean as realistic. No yaoi Holly waters to clense it. You say "ok look at it as porn". As I said elsewhere I like my porn equal for all involving parties. If the uke was at the end "oh my God a new path has appeared to my life" I would be ok. I agree that while this is not my cup of tea it might be of others. I really hate forced everything indeed even in my fantasies (which are not vanilla at all I must say, do not get me wrong). But I think this should not be categorized as Yaoi. My opinion. In my mind yaoi is attraction, lust and love (with a lot of hot sex). As Bara is a different category this should be a category of its own (and all the stories like what you mentioned for force-fuck).

I think you’re confused by what I was saying. I’ll number it.

1) I disagree with you calling this realistic rape. I find it disrespectful considering how much this story is clearly a plot for jacking off.

2) Like I said before, how I define as realistic rape is how the topic is handled. Its depth, story, how the topic is handled seriously and with care because it’s a sensitive topic that should be treated as such.

3) This is obviously pure porn. I added those examples because this “plot” is nothing new. This is smut, a niche market faps to this— you ain’t its target audience so you seem to fail to understand that this is standard porn plot.

4) I’ve already said this but I understand that this ain’t for you. No need to elaborate on your preferences in porn. That’s for you and only you. Different strokes for different folks, like I’ve said.

5. Yes this should still be categorised as yaoi. Over the years, the term has gotten so general it covers a lot of things that it can’t be considered pure sex+romance anymore. Typical smut/pwp have now fallen under this category as long as it’s two guys. Basically any sort of sex between men, whether consensual or not can now be categorised as yaoi. A tag can be added such as “males only” (like in nhentai) but it’ll only confuse people. They’ll be like ??? Why do we have this when we already have yaoi or shounen-ai?

Well Bara was created (some think of it as yaoi subgenre, others consider it a different genre of the same level). In an article I read that the main difference is not the body type but the target group (Bara is mostly for gay men while yaoi is for females). In another article at an LGBT site I read that gay men do not like yaoi sometimes due to "rape". That seems funny cause I have read some Bara that were like "I am gonna f u now" " but I am straight" "not anymore you are not, and here are my friends". No I am not trying to prove I read a lot, just saying my thoughts (and other people thoughts) on the generic categorization. Oh and I will go to sleep now so have a good night!

yeah people totally have the right to like what they want, like you said “different strokes for different folks” or whatever but there’s really a big question of morality. Like u said, there are people who get off to rape plots like this, thats the target audience, sure. but even though it’s fiction, don’t you think it’s disturbing that you’re even defending that particular “preference”? that’s just like saying pedophilia is ok, bc by your logic, people can like what they like right? sure it’s just fiction, sure it’s just a short porn without plot, sure it ain’t that deep, but take a moment to realize you’re basically trying to justify that it’s ok that some people enjoy rape. Or at least that’s what I understood from your comments.

Kink shaming ain’t a good thing, son. I’m not gonna judge their preference just because I find it unnerving. Fantasies are just fantasies. It doesn’t always translate the same as real life preferences. If you’re interested in evidence, I can pass you a link to an askreddit thread full of people sharing their fantasy kinks but not into it in real life. One of the most upvoted answers was someone who thought they were into scat (the kink that involves literal shit) and tried doing it irl. Didn’t work out for them. Same for threesomes, candle wax, etc etc.

Here’s the link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/eddylu/what_kink_did_you_think_you_had_until_you_tried/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

You know rape role playing is a thing, right? It can be discussed in bed with your lover. You have no fucking right to twist my words like that, making it seem like I’m justifying that it’s okay for people to enjoy rape.

Blatantescapist has a point. For women rape is 1st or 2nd sexual fantasy. That does not mean that they want someone to rape them. It means that they are fantasize e.g. their favourite actor taking them who is a pirate and they are a noble abducted by them or they role playing it with their partner. No one wants or justify actual rape. It is not the same as collecting child porn. Child porn is a) a crime b) not fiction c) evolves real human beings without their consect. Reading a shota sometimes does not making you a future child molester. Watching real porn with children makes you

“You HaVe nO fuckiNg riGhT” OK LMAOO RELAX, like I said, that’s what I understood from your comment. I forgot how some people have these different kinks, so thanks for clarifying. But although I agree when you said you won’t judge someone for their “fantasies”, I still think it says a thing or two about their tendencies and morality, whether it be good or bad

Thanks bud :v b

You know, you didn’t have to mock the way I felt offended by your subtle accusation about me “justifying that it’s ok that some people enjoy rape”. A simple sorry—even something casual like “hey man, sorry ‘bout that lol” would’ve been fine. I still stand by what I said about fantasies whether you agree with it or not.

I hope that this, what I write is understandabel...My englisch is not really goot, when it comes to write.
I personally think, it´s okay to read this storys about rape. Sometimes I really like to read them, because I know they are not real. does that mean I want to be raped? There i can clerly say NO.
And I agree, that this manga is under the categori Yaoi...just like /blatantescapist/ wrote.

And now that I think about it, when someone is the meaning, that this is real rape ( and what they not al think)...what do they think of the people, who work on this manga, the magaka for example...is the mangaka now someone who wants to rape people, because he draw someting like this? I dont think so. Ore for example there are Yaois, wehre you see the most bloody things. I read a Yaoi, witch was under : Yoia, Adult und Smut...I cant remember the last one, but it was not splatter ore so. But the sexzene the was bloody. It was a half rape story. but the shocing thing was, that the "rapist" cuttet the "victim"...he was healing, right after the other on came inside him, but what would you call taht? that cant be seen as realistic. and thats what i think every time i read a rape yaoi. I know that the situation in this manga could really happen (and probebly alredy did happen eveywere on the world) but this is a storry. and when you think about it than its clear that this is not real.

Now I used this commend to write this. thats because, when ich saw it, I coud not understand, that someone sees this as somesting reallistic.
I already saw so many of this kinds of comments and to say it clearly i piss me off, that the people say this is shit ore that is bad and this guy hurts taht guy. foe goddes sake, this is all fiction. and when you dont like this kindes of plots, than dont read is dammed!

blatantescapist I´m on your side

and now at german. not the same text, but with the same meaning.
so und nun für die, die auch deutsch verstehen, was ist an so einer story bitte schlimm? Es ist reine fiction und hat nichts mit der realität zu tun. weil wenn man das so sieht und mal andere genre dazu nimmt, was ist dann mit S&M? Gruppensex? keine ahnung, dieser fetisch n Tier zu sein oder sich dabei was zu futtern rein zu stopfen? oder denken die, die dies nun als "echte" vergewaltigung ansehen, dass der mangaka sich gerne gegen den eigenen willen rannehmen lässt oder sich gerne selbst jemanden aufzwingt? Das ist doch hirnrissig!!

so LG L.L good evening and all of you good luck for the comming year 2020

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Yes, the last story is esp beautiful and poignant.