who is sunwoo????? WHO IS SUNWOO?? I WANTED TO SEE OUR CUTIE PIE SEHUN FIND LOVE AND THE EVOLUTION OF HIS GROWING REAL LOVE AND ALL AND ALL I SEE IS HIM BUY A WATCH TALKING ABOUT MYSTERIOUS BOYFRIEND....AAAH NOOOO
need to learn what rape is. Rape is when someone that didn`t or couldn`t give had sexual stuff done to them. And not always does rape mean, that you were penetrated. As we all should know sex is not sex just cause something entered someone. Anyway. The uke could not legally consent as well as was not able to physically reject sexual initiation from the duke since the beginning. He was heavily intoxicated first time when he initiated, but he did not force himself on the duke. The duke did never put any real resitance there. All you could say is it was a mental thing to have been confronted with homosexuality for the first time all at once like that, that he was tempted and could not say no. But if you pull it right, he could be the one to end up being charged on court and not the uke, cause uke was heavily intoxicated. So he was not able to consent or whatever. And duke then went on and used his authority and other stuff for manipulation over uke and his physical superiority to force himself on uke several times. This is freakin nuts. It makes me so sad that this webtoon which had so much pontential and had this fluffiness and goofiness to it becamse something disgusting like this. And again another uke that has like no substance. Hhhhh.....no scholar that is supposed to be someone that takes pride in themselves like this guy and is so determined and values their dignity would be able to cope with having someone force themselves on you especially using shit like their authority be it formal or physical....it would create a heavy grudge in them....i mean i know people like the kinda character uke is supposed to be....and even if it was a guy they loved since forever, if he did this they would all go bonkers and may be even want to revenge....hhhh anyway
he could make him happier than sejun...i swear...first time i was not like "ew get the fuck outta here"....i heard or read this often no matter the level of attractivenes or what, it was just creepy...but sehun omg....i wish the author wouldn`t have done that to sehun....he is so good, such a cutie...awesome partner material...god...and from what i read he does not get together in a happy relationship during this webtoon? omg why...he is such a fucking awesome MC material....hhhhhhh omg...my heart...dunno if i can handle reading this and seeing sehun go through unrequired pure love like this...
how can you even deny anything at that point anymore? It was clear the first time he did the gay in love joke to me...he was way to awkwardly into it....people like the hyung usually do this stuff cause deep down they are in turmoil and try to deal with the curiosity they cannot admit to themselves by deceiving themselves and others....like tsunderes who act like they are not interested and telling themselves over and over they are not interested and then when suddenly it is shovd into their face they go all soft cause after all the energy it took them to deny it all so deeply, suddenly having the thing they denied so much in their hands was like a needle gently grazing a balloon that was filled with a liiittle too much pressure....hhhhh....i just feel hurt for both of them...they are hurting each other by denying it like this....eunsung denies it outwardly, even though inwardl he is aware....and hyung does it inward and outwardly so hurting his subconscious and gathering lotsa subconscious pressure and hurting eunsung with his "careless" acts...
i am so scared rn. am where they show the uncle for the first time. what did he do to eunsung? i cannot deal with sexual abuse stuff or anything omfg what is this....no matter what he did i want him to be punished...eunsung please omg....
He just beat him and bullied him I think.
is not someone that is fit for anything tagged with "romance"....they re not lovely, lovable nor is any remotely healthy relationship with them possible....so this author either didn't look for a happy one anyway and wanted a fucked up toxic realationship with a narcissitic partner here...or they just didn't care to research about what a narcissist is and just thought it must be the same as a tsuntsun character....
Sorry ment to dislike
first...why are you sorry?
second...i would really like to know why anyone decided to dislike my comment. not because you cannot. i just would like to know why as i am curious what you thought when reading it :)
He’s not an actual narcissist. It’s like when characters go “this guy is a psychopath!” because the character is cold blooded or said/did something creepy or whatever. It’s not that they’re clinically diagnosed with it, it’s popular language.
Though the morals of it is arguable, that wasn’t the point of your comment (some people will say that it’s not right to compare neurotypical people’s negative behaviour with people who have disorders and others will disagree and say that it’s not insulting or misleading)
Also it is arguable to say that a narcissist cannot be involved with romance. We just never know about people’s circumstances, just like psychopath isn’t necessarily a murderer. They’re just people who, because they clinically cannot grasp moral norms, are more at risk of becoming dangerous.
Aah thanks. I didn`t read this yet. Just from the synopsis as well as the comments here is what I based my comment on. I read so many stuffs where they used characters like narcissist or psychopath or sociopath and romanticised it. I am not saying that all people on the spectrum cannot be romantically involved. But you seem to know quiet something about a person that does not just have symptoms but is a true narcissist. Someone that can get some relieve through theraphy, but is not really able to adapt normaly anymore. It is not their fault for becoming one. No one is at fault for being made into a sociopath or narcissit because of your fucked up childhood. And psychopaths are not at fault for being born that way either. I am just saying, that it sounded like this was gonna be some kinda magical character development thing without showing the depths and troubles and all over complexity and toxidity a relationship with a narcissist would most likely have. A narcissist can be romantic, even in love, but it will not be an unproblematic one. Not very likely. As they would not be a narcissist if it were that way. A person with light symptoms and treatment could though...I know many that never had it, don`t even know they are one and go around fucking up peoples lives and acting like the world tries to make everything their fault :D Anyway..I will have a read. Thanks for the reply
No worries!
Also don’t worry, the two main characters are actually absolute sweethearts, the narcissist part is easily forgotten a few chapters in hahaha
haha yeah i read it. i even spit from laughter sometimes about these antics. i can see how annoying it canb if someone seems to put words in your mouth andjust ignore what you say...a narcissistic behaviour indeed..but it was funny haha...i am a bit torn about the reactions people have on the black haired glasses guy and the orange dude though...
Like how they’re mad at black haired dude being exaggeratedly angry or orange guy’s dumminess?
Personally I don’t wanna jump the guns and imma wait for the flashbacks and more background info to see if his anger is rational or just wayyy too much. Black haired dude gives me some eh vibes since he’s presented mostly as an angry loner but we’ll see!
is just another shit trying to deal with domestic violence and abuse and bastards that only look good on the outside and all that saves them from being hated by the world for their true ugliness is their body and the status they inherited just cause they were born into it and in a society where people still act like people accomplished something huge just cause they were born into a rich family......he looks good and is rich...there is a weird substance less uke that is like innocence and naivite in person who for no reason clings to him and loves him....so people be like AH HE IS GOOD...and simp...and act like the violence and abuse and all over disgustingness of this is just some extra jalapeno on a subway sandwich....ew...this story is trash...doesn`t even has the excuse like yaoi does with having "hot scenes that were drawn awesomely" so no one cares about the plot just the porn....ah anyway....what a waste （￣へ￣）
I doubt anyone is skimping for the seme here... Definitely not me
Simping*.. Damn autocorrect
i find it interesting how also in real life adults like that blond dude still don't get that what they felt was never love. not real love. he was never really in love with yool as a person, but with yool and his persona and how yool made this dude feel. he loved how it made him feel so good to be close to yool, to have his attention and devotion and his everything. he loved the feelings not yool himself. what he had was just mere addiction an d an obsession...possessiveness over that stuff that yool represents for him. and losing yool would mean to lose the body that allowed him to feel those awesome feelings he apparently cannot get over as it kinda marked him as a kid. if he breaks up, he will get it from his stage work anyway. being a good looking actor and all. he is just like a slave owner, dragging him around by a breaking leash. and yool is slowly kinda burning out all excuses he had to run away from himself and the reality. he really loved blond guy. and even a shitty fucker of an excuse for a father. but being together with someone that does not see or love you but what you represent. father doing this from one side and boyfriend from the other, it eats up on you and your self preservation, no matter how hard you make yourself hate yourself, will try and do everything to make you SEE the truth. that you will die if you let go of the only one that was and ever will be there for you and never leave you, because they cannot leave you and instead can be your biggest EVERYTHING and that is YOURSELF. if you let go of yourself, it can only happen if you kill yourself. tha is the only way to get rid of you. anyway....i felt so disgusted by blondie. i cannot believe his attitude and shit. such a weak bitch.
That was a whole ass analysis and I agree withEVERY SINGLE BIT PERIODT SISTER
i never had something like blond guy, but i went trough something like yool. a burn out, because i was trying to fit in a sleeve that was not made for my body with all my force and to do that i had to abandon my identity. the thing is, i did this subconsciously since ever i can remember. hiding the lil flame of my real self in a room deep inside me and just functioning. until around 18 somehow my stable life that helped me keep it together, fell apart. like death in family, my parents be all gone insane, friends, school everywhere was chaos and suddenly there i was, kinda by force i fell out of that sleeve i kinda was in like some mummy all my life...not understanding who i was and what i was doing with everything. it is fucking scary. so i get yool. it is scary to accept reality, to accept that your parents don`t really love you, but only love the feeling they get when you fullfil their expactations....and how your friends are quick to abandon you just because you were not the same always cheeful smiling clown anymore, but a real deep person now that could also feel negative feelings....or rejection of someone you were in love with etc. i am still working on my SELF to this day (i am alost 24). did mostly self theraphy, left behind anyone that dragged me down. even my parents in the end. as they were the last and biggest hurdle. now people come to me. my parents as well. i even almost felt disgusted by their needy behavior sometimes. how they were suddenly so remorsefully putting on a desperate act of ignoring whatever they cannot understand about me, so they can still have "their daughter"....still unwilling to face reality, to work on themselves, to apologise for fucks sake....i am still in contact and go to them when i am in my homecountry (i chased my dream and live in london now, to the shock of like EVERYONE haha)...when people bring up stuff i am now able to face it with calm attitude. why? cause i know OWN myself. i know my bad sides and good sides and i love my life and that i am living and a complex being. i can be alone with myself without being lonely. because i am not abandoning myself anymore, but facing myself head on. so if people for example throw to my face something that is negative about me, i throw them off, by just calmly admitting they are saying the truth, but so what. ahahaha. or if my parents say stuff like "you should marry one day and have kids" i can tell them "i will live however i want, as long as i am happy, i don`t care. if you have a problem with that, than that is your own responsibility to deal with. my life is my own, you cannot tell me what to do with it. i did not ask you to be born, you did your job in raising the being you forced into this existence. now i am the one that has to take care of myself. so stay out of it and focus on your own life and happiness now. don`t project your unhappiness with yourself onto me. i don`t exist to make you feel good about yourself." stuff along those lines.....and they are adjusting now being forced to either lose me forever, or face me as an adult individual whose life belongs to themselves.
That was so long and deep.. Are you okay? If u ever need to vent just drop you ig acc and I'll listen WHENEVER YOU NEED TO! Your parents can go suck a dicks.. wait no that's a good thing- And the fact that you went through all of that is JUST WRONG U NEED HUGS BBY?
when there is actual rape and abuse of all kinds going in yaoi etc. people still root for the perpetrator and even try to make the people who critisice the lighthearted and ignorant waz the author portrayes and deals with the matter and how totally unplausible the reactions etc. are from the victims, feel like they take fiction too seriously and should just ignore all bullshit in fictive stories. But then we see a normal sex scene here. Just that the author decided to draw it much more dynamically than what we usually see. It seems like a try out, but also to show how the seme likes rough sex, but still manages (if one would look closely) to be gentle. And he is watching ukes face and reactions.
Technicaly he also knows what uke is going through, cause he is inside him. Uke never said stop, or pleaded him to stop. He was super lost in the foreign feeling of sensing pleasure and an orgasm from his butt. What you saw was an uke a bit afraid from the intense orgasm that was coming. Nothing else. And seme only took up the pace after uke came and as he didn`t say anything anymore but moan. Y`all never had intense sex before? The hell.
There is a reason why french call an orgasm `small death`....cause it can feel so inense like dying or something and then you are reborn again after. So some people even cry after an orgasm, cause it was such intense feelings. Not cause of love, but because they were fucked too well, they start crying on their own. It was a nice sex scene, but all you could may be argue about is, if they used lube or condoms and if a virgin won`t feel lotta pain from being fucked well like this as a first timer. This is not rape, nor is it forced. It is the normal first time awkwardliness of sex.
I say this as someone that repeatedly gets hated on mangago for my comments on how a manga has rape, sexual abuse, manipulation, grooming, verbal abuse, physical abuse and all kinds of forms of violence and toxidity that no one seems to mind. Be it yaoi especially or like no one seems to care in lotta straight love and shounen ai etc. Where there is no `psychological`tag or what.
Anyway. Go shit on Semes like Yahwi, who actually raped his Uke and was never really confronted with it properly, but still has a jackload of people talking about him as if he was the same as Edward Sullen, who is just mean to Bella and misunderstood, because he loves her and doesn`t want her to feel the pain of a relationship from living with an immortal....
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