Yuu08 April 22, 2025 8:39 pm

Bruh their love story in high school was so good. Like, it wasn’t the absolute best, but it was definitely better than the one they have now. I lowkey wish that was the original plot, just with a few things changed so those two could’ve actually ended up together back then.

Yuu08 April 22, 2025 3:30 am

Reo so pretty when he cries

    Yuu08 April 22, 2025 3:32 am

    Guys I'm actually in denial. (I need a gun to kms)

Yuu08 April 20, 2025 2:09 pm

Is there like an chasing arc or is the mc just gonna not gaf and be with the ml depsite finding the truth? Bc I lowkey wanna read this but I hate how Wooyeon seems so much more in love than Dohyun but that might just be because of the lack of pov from Dohyun’s side.

    kels April 20, 2025 2:29 pm

    yea there will be a chasing arc wooyeon is gonna be pissed af and dohyun will do the chasing it was so good

    Villainousintent April 20, 2025 2:42 pm

    *A general, but not detailed spoiler*
































    Well...According to the novel, there should be two main points where the plot tickens and the chasing arc is towards the end of the story. After the first time, one can become quite frustrated with both the mc and ml. A slight warning though, if they do it exactly like in the novel, which they have done until now, there will be quite a bit of questioning actions from both parties involved... So it definetly won't be only a cute and fluffy story, but the chasing arc was quite satisfactory in my opinion (but to each their own ig). The MC will be chasing him the most of the story, but in the novel you get the ML's POV as well towards the end, so you get to understand the situation better. Just wanted to put that out there as a heads up, since I think not everyone would enjoy the way certain events played out...

    Villainousintent April 20, 2025 2:43 pm

    *A general, but not detailed spoiler*
































    Well...According to the novel, there should be two main points where the plot thickens and the chasing arc is towards the end of the story. After the first time, one can become quite frustrated with both the mc and ml. A slight warning though, if they do it exactly like in the novel, which they have done until now, there will be quite a bit of questioning actions from both parties involved... So it definetly won't be only a cute and fluffy story, but the chasing arc was quite satisfactory in my opinion (but to each their own ig). The MC will be chasing him the most of the story, but in the novel you get the ML's POV as well towards the end, so you get to understand the situation better. Just wanted to put that out there as a heads up, since I think not everyone would enjoy the way certain events played out...

    Gennie April 20, 2025 2:44 pm

    Correct! Is the lack of Dohyun POV yet. But no worries Dohyun despair will come and he's madly in love. Dohyun doesn't think he's worth of deserving Wooyeon, self-esteem problems and a past we'll see later in the future chapters, besides Wooyeon family doesn't help with the situation (/TДT)/ , but no worries there's a chasing arc and Dohyun is crazy in love of wooyeon.

    Gennie April 20, 2025 2:53 pm
    *A general, but not detailed spoiler*Well...According to the novel, there should be two main points where the plot tickens and the chasing arc is towards the end of the story. After the first time, one can beco... Villainousintent

    Exactly, the two main points are the key of their relationship, specially with Wooyeon's family situation and Dohyun's as well. I loved and I mean LOVED seeing Dohyun's POV like is one of my fav parts of the novel bc you understand the context of why he's acting the way he is... Ofc, it's not incredible long (that arc) but I hope the manwha does it right. Besides I wanna see Wooyeon testing Dohyun's patience (▰˘◡˘▰)

    Yuu08 April 20, 2025 3:46 pm
    *A general, but not detailed spoiler*Well...According to the novel, there should be two main points where the plot thickens and the chasing arc is towards the end of the story. After the first time, one can bec... Villainousintent

    Could u just tell me the chasing arc bc lowkey I just need to see it or else I'm prob not gonna read this bc u just stated that most of the story is the mc chasing the ml

    Villainousintent April 20, 2025 4:37 pm
    Exactly, the two main points are the key of their relationship, specially with Wooyeon's family situation and Dohyun's as well. I loved and I mean LOVED seeing Dohyun's POV like is one of my fav parts of the no... Gennie

    Sameeee~ I just hope they keep potraying everything like they did until now, because of how every little detail was kept in the manhwa. And I would also love to see Wooyeon being more assertive in certain matters. (=・ω・=)

    Villainousintent April 20, 2025 4:54 pm
    Could u just tell me the chasing arc bc lowkey I just need to see it or else I'm prob not gonna read this bc u just stated that most of the story is the mc chasing the ml Yuu08

    Sure! ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~


    *SPOILER*

    Well the chasing arc is not long per say, but you could see how Dohyun really tried his best to win him over. He would constantly talk things out, apologize and even cry while begging Wooyeon to forgive him. Later he would also try to show it though his actions, like: constantly flirting, doing things for Wooyeon, dressing up to impress him, attend the 1st year classes with Wooyeon and confess to him every time he got the chance to. To me it seemed like Wooyeon forgave him a bit sooner than I hoped, but at the same time I was quite satisfied with it (It could be because I read the whole novel in 1 day and night ( ̄∇ ̄")...) But...once you read Dohyun's POV, I think you will kind of understand where he was coming from... I by no means am trying to defend him, because I, while also feeling sorry for him, found his mixed signals and actions quite cruel... But yeah, that's just my opinion... ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Villainousintent April 20, 2025 4:58 pm
    Could u just tell me the chasing arc bc lowkey I just need to see it or else I'm prob not gonna read this bc u just stated that most of the story is the mc chasing the ml Yuu08

    Oh, also, the way Wooyeon treated Dohyun after he found things out, was reaaally satisfying (at least for me). He was truly cold to him, which surprised everyone.

    Gennie April 20, 2025 5:30 pm
    Sameeee~ I just hope they keep potraying everything like they did until now, because of how every little detail was kept in the manhwa. And I would also love to see Wooyeon being more assertive in certain matte... Villainousintent

    SAMEEEE RIGHT??? OMG loved your comment, I'm really liking how all details have been portrayed exactly as the novel, and I'm praying they'll do the same for Dohuyn POV bc khjdlkjhdldkd ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

Yuu08 April 19, 2025 3:00 am

ARGHHHH I LOVE YOU SKYLAR

Yuu08 April 16, 2025 8:19 pm

Yeah let's kill that mf rn

Yuu08 April 15, 2025 9:34 pm

Omg that mf better come back as the new Kunigami or else I'm actually dropping this shit bro this is the most dramatic I been. I won't believe it until that mf cross that door

    gojyos April 16, 2025 12:28 am

    100% valid reaction

Yuu08 April 15, 2025 9:28 pm

Reading the novel and knowing how it gonna turn out is literally my fav. I love this novel sm

    somnia April 15, 2025 10:01 pm

    *points gun*
    and so where did you read that novel?

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 10:07 pm
    *points gun*and so where did you read that novel? somnia

    *pull up atomic bombs*
    https://www.lightnovelworld.co/novel/turning

    You should def read it. This shit is so good. Literally fire

    somnia April 15, 2025 10:22 pm
    *pull up atomic bombs*https://www.lightnovelworld.co/novel/turningYou should def read it. This shit is so good. Literally fire Yuu08

    Amen brother

    cup of wine April 15, 2025 11:14 pm

    brother may u tell me --us-- which chapt should we read to continue from the manhwa? ( ・﹏・)

    KeekdUp April 15, 2025 11:14 pm

    Do you know about what chapter this is in the novel?

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 11:44 pm

    Yes! The chapter that the novel left on is chapter 80!

    https://www.lightnovelworld.co/novel/turning-1661/chapter-80

    I am a weeb April 15, 2025 11:47 pm
    *points gun*and so where did you read that novel? somnia

    Put the gun down no need for violence

    KeekdUp April 16, 2025 12:56 am
    Yes! The chapter that the novel left on is chapter 80!https://www.lightnovelworld.co/novel/turning-1661/chapter-80 Yuu08

    TSYM

Yuu08 April 15, 2025 5:08 am

Ain’t no fucking way y’all are seriously agreeing with what Ash did. Like, let’s be real and break this down.

> “Ash literally says that Lyle can still propose. Nothing was ruined.”

Yeah, he can still propose but the effort Lyle put into planning a thoughtful, genuine proposal was completely disregarded. Having to blurt it out just to stop an uncomfortable situation doesn’t just “reset” because there’s a second chance. The whole point of a proposal is that it’s meaningful, genuine, and given freely not something dragged out under emotional pressure. Just because Ash said, “you can still propose later,” doesn’t mean the emotional impact of the original moment isn’t tainted. You can’t just pretend that a uncomfortable situation didn’t happen because there’s a redo option. I understand that in later chapter there ACTUAL proposal was cute and etc but that still doesn't excuse what Ash did. Do not overlook this as a simple "he say sorry and Lyle was okay with it too" no tf he was not. U can tell he was uncomfortable and didn't wanna be put in that situation.


> “He apologized for forcing it out.”

And? An apology doesn’t erase the consequences of his actions. Apologizing is the absolute bare minimum after you make someone feel cornered and uncomfortable. The issue isn’t whether he apologized, it’s that he shouldn’t have needed to in the first place. A genuine partner doesn’t ignore repeated signs of hesitation or discomfort just to satisfy their own timeline or desires. The apology doesn’t fix the fact that Lyle was clearly not ready, clearly hesitant, and clearly emotionally overwhelmed in that moment. Even when they were at the sex toy shop or whatever Lyle was clearly uncomfortable and didn't wanna be there.

> “He’s going to give Lyle another chance to propose properly.”

Again, that doesn’t address the root of the issue. This isn’t just about “letting Lyle try again.” It’s about the fact that Ash already crossed a major emotional boundary. Throughout the story, Lyle has often gone along with things he wasn’t totally okay with, just because Ash was. That’s a pattern, and it speaks volumes. Consent and comfort should never be based on someone else’s enthusiasm. A proposal should be something that both people are emotionally ready for, not something squeezed out through guilt, pressure, or whatever.

> "Other point, we can't forget that Lyle could have use the safe word"

"Lyle could’ve used the safe word" is such a dismissive take. Just because someone technically has an way out doesn’t mean they feel safe or empowered enough to use it especially when they’re overwhelmed or if there with someone they care about. Safe words are there to protect consent during mutual play, not to excuse one partner for blatantly ignoring the other’s discomfort and boundaries. Using a safe word should never be seen as the only line between "okay" and "not okay." The fact that someone hasn’t used it doesn’t automatically mean they’re okay, it means they might be too overwhelmed to speak up, too scared, or simply don’t feel they can. It was literally fucking seen with lyle crying and asking ash to stop. A healthy partner picks up on subtle cues, reads the emotional landscape, and respects boundaries without needing a sign that says "stop." That’s not a failure on Lyle’s part; it’s a failure on Ash’s for putting him in that position in the first place. Ash should’ve been more aware and considerate, not pushing him into an uncomfortable situation just because HE was ready.

Stop excusing Ash’s behavior because he said sorry. If he really cared, he would’ve stopped the second he saw how distressed Lyle was. That’s what love looks like, not forcing a moment and cleaning it up after. And the fact that the author completely glossed over that violation by having them immediately jump into a sex scene afterward? Tone-deaf as hell. It sends the message that discomfort and emotional pressure can be smoothed over with sex and a half-hearted “sorry,” and that’s not okay.

This was supposed to be a comfort manhwa something warm, tender, and respectful. Instead, it turned into a story where boundaries doesnt matter anymore and the fandom just shrugs because the ML is hot and said “sorry.”

Be so fucking for real.

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 5:16 am

    “Y’all complain about anything” at least have a better comeback bc all i see is ppl who are expressing genuine concern. The story was going so well u til the side story and People aren’t just whining for the sake of it, they’re calling out how the author chose to ruined meaningful character development to catering to mainstream BL tropes that prioritize forced intimacy over emotional depth. Not to mention there are actually folks out here thinking this behavior is okay.

    Calling it “complaining” instead of engaging with the valid concerns just shows your unwillingness to reflect or acknowledge harmful patterns. If anything, it says more about you than it does about the people raising the issue. Not everything has to be blind praise, especially when something deserves to be criticized.

    April 15, 2025 6:49 am

    can yall shut tf already

    Bre April 15, 2025 7:04 am

    Stfu why you all trying to be police so bad on fiction

    zelinxi April 15, 2025 9:55 am
    “Y’all complain about anything” at least have a better comeback bc all i see is ppl who are expressing genuine concern. The story was going so well u til the side story and People aren’t just whining fo... Yuu08

    That's a whole lot of nothing for a fictional story.
    Criticism is needed for stories, totally get that but all yalls criticism is about one scene and its not even problematic.

    Nobody April 15, 2025 10:02 am

    Its not that we dont acknowledge it , it's just that its not that deep. You don't have to waste so much energy on a fictional story now cmon bro ,i promise you if you start to see the bigger picture (kinda obvious the author just wanted to make a porn scene) you'd understand people dont gaf, you ARE DRAGGING IT they're not real people, and it's not like hes on the verge of death

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 11:05 am

    LMAO YALL JUST PROVE YOURSELF. I bet half of yall bitches can't even read and got upset the moment I disagree with u.

    nana April 15, 2025 11:40 am

    i honestly do understand this take, but like at the end of the day ts is not real so why get worked up over something so …meaningless? ppl read stories like this bc it’s entertaining, not because they agree with wtv the fuck is going on

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 3:28 pm
    i honestly do understand this take, but like at the end of the day ts is not real so why get worked up over something so …meaningless? ppl read stories like this bc it’s entertaining, not because they agre... nana

    You say that, but every reply here is just trying to justify this nonsense. Make it make sense. This kind of mindset is genuinely harmful, and if your only defense is 'it's just fiction,' then come up with a better argument because that lazy and weak

    Katyfaye April 15, 2025 3:57 pm

    You make excellent points. Clearly the people saying those things have no idea what real BDSM play looks like. Sure there can be crying and begging to stop in BDSM play, but that isn't what happened here. Lyle has never engaged in that kind of scene before and has never expressed an interest in it.

    At every step along the way he expressed his discomfort and that so called safe word was something that Ash knew he would have trouble with. Ash also started with some pretty extreme stuff for a beginner, even if he had expressed an interest in BDSM play, someone who actually knew what they were doing would have gone slower. It's clear that it wasn't play for Ash, it was actual punishment to him. If those slaps had been on Lyle's face, it's the same.

    It's not okay and sexy just because the slaps were on his ass. At no point is Lyle into it, he gets a physiological reaction to what's happening (fear erections are a thing). This kind of attitude 'You're had so you like it' is a reason why so many men can't report sexual assault.

    xieyi April 15, 2025 4:24 pm

    why yall pulling up a detective in a freaking fictional story

    zelinxi April 15, 2025 4:28 pm

    can y'all do this much work for real situations

    seven April 15, 2025 5:49 pm

    This would be true if they didn't love each other like they do. Why would karlye feel unsafe? Ash isn't abusive. They love each other, and obviously Karlye doesn't care. Why are you madder than him

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 8:07 pm
    You make excellent points. Clearly the people saying those things have no idea what real BDSM play looks like. Sure there can be crying and begging to stop in BDSM play, but that isn't what happened here. Lyle ... Katyfaye

    And these comments prove me just right. At least read

    zelinxi April 15, 2025 8:42 pm

    literally just read happy stories, all your reviews in your reading list are nonsensical. If you do not like "problematic" (and im putting that in quotes) stop reading, don't comment. Just ignore everything. It really isn't that hard to distinguish fiction and reality. Again, Lyle CONSENTED to this, he knows he won't say the safe word so he decided to tell him. Saying no stop doesn't automatically mean rape or sexual assault. That is why safe words exist in bdsm. You all sound so dumb trying to make people feel bad about liking things. No one is being hurt in real life, fiction does not equate real life. Get off your purity high horse and touch grass, do you guys put this much effort into real life for actual victims or just online.
    Just shut up about things you don't like, ignore and move on.
    You literally have problematic stories in your reading list, pick a fucking struggle.

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 9:02 pm
    literally just read happy stories, all your reviews in your reading list are nonsensical. If you do not like "problematic" (and im putting that in quotes) stop reading, don't comment. Just ignore everything. It... zelinxi

    aww did i hurt the little white female minor who can't actual present actual reasoning. stop hiding behind the “safe word” excuse. Consent isn’t a damn puzzle to solve. If someone’s clearly uncomfortable and mutters something just to make it stop, that’s not sexy, that’s coercion.

    Oh wait? I don't think u understand what coercion is. My bad. Let me say it simpler. It's force. Go back with your mha bakugo and deku ship. Weirdo

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 9:16 pm
    literally just read happy stories, all your reviews in your reading list are nonsensical. If you do not like "problematic" (and im putting that in quotes) stop reading, don't comment. Just ignore everything. It... zelinxi

    Lol but speaking logical! this is especially for all the white female minors who think fetishizing gay men is a personality trait and still can’t grasp basic comprehension skills. (Oh and I say again bc I know yall get super angry when I say fetishizer)

    people are allowed to critique fiction. Telling people to “just shut up” because they found something harmful or upsetting is childish. (Lol you) Calling out problematic portrayals doesn’t mean we hate fiction, it means we actually engage with it beyond surface-level fantasies. I loved this manhwa. It was one of my favorites. But let’s not pretend Ash’s behavior wasn’t manipulative as hell. That side of him wasn’t developed at all until the side story.

    “It's just fiction” is the most tired excuse. Fiction shapes beliefs, period. Tropes matter. Representation matters. When an entire fanbase starts romanticizing coercion and emotional pressure, that’s not just a personal taste, it’s a reflection of how normalized abuse is in media. No one’s saying this caused harm. We’re saying it reflects harm, and that deserves to be talked about.

    Stop using the "safe word” argument like it's a get-out-of-jail-free card. Consent isn’t a technicality, it’s about emotional readiness and safety. If someone is clearly overwhelmed and mutters a proposal just to make it stop, that’s not consent. That’s pressure. Just because you’re desperate to defend your fav doesn’t mean reality changes for you.

    And bringing up someone’s reading list like I'm lying or shit. Fucking embarrassing u even had to check me out. Are you a fan? Thank you <33


    Anyway people can enjoy dark content and still know when something goes too far. That’s called having standards, try it sometime <3

    So no, we’re not gonna shut up because you got your feelings hurt over valid criticism. If you can’t handle people dissecting your comfort media, then be a bitch and how about u scroll past bc honestly all your arugement is stupid. It’s honestly embarrassing. Oh and if u didn't read all this then at least I know someone can't read, write, and
    basic comprehension skills!

    zelinxi April 15, 2025 9:39 pm
    aww did i hurt the little white female minor who can't actual present actual reasoning. stop hiding behind the “safe word” excuse. Consent isn’t a damn puzzle to solve. If someone’s clearly uncomfortabl... Yuu08

    Not a minor. Grew up in the don't like don't read, ignore and move on era. You know, before you learned how to use a phone.
    You are right about coercion but that's not what was happening in the story.
    You are arguing over something that you can just stop reading.
    "We’re saying it reflects harm, and that deserves to be talked about." That's the point of a story, but you guys are only talking about a minuscule scene. One that, wasn't forced. Was he coerced in talking? Yes, and did ash go about it the wrong way? Yes, but that still doesn't change the fact that he was okay with what ash was doing.
    "And bringing up someone’s reading list like I'm lying or shit. Fucking embarrassing u even had to check me out. Are you a fan? Thank you <33" Nah you're just fucking annoying. Writing nonsense reviews that no one asked for, you are on a free site reading illegally.
    "So no, we’re not gonna shut up because you got your feelings hurt over valid criticism. " Not hurt, you guys aren't giving valid criticisms to the story besides "its rape. shouldn't be in a story." You don't even bother to read the story seeing the consent and options that Ash gave to Lyle, he chose the later and didn't ask what it was for. Valid criticisms are not given unsolicited, the author/creator will ask. You giving opinions is fine but you also have to realize that ficiton is ficiton and shouldn't shape your reality. "Shapes beliefs" if it does that, you need to go outside and talk with people.
    "Go back with your mha bakugo and deku ship. Weirdo " Don't ship cause they are children, and its weird.
    You sound deranged because someone is calling your bullshit. Go learn what romanticizing means before using it in a sentence. The story isn't romanticizing force or coercion, did you also cry about Ash "forcing" Lyle during his rut?
    "That side of him wasn’t developed at all until the side story." Im sure you didn't read the story cause you would have noticed his manipulative, possessive nature.
    "Anyway people can enjoy dark content and still know when something goes too far." Yes, I get that. Definitely call it out but what you are calling out isn't going that far. This isn't a dark story nor was that scene a dark moment. So, fuck off?
    Sorry I don't fit your narrative, I'm calling out your logic and calling you stupid because you don't even know what you are saying.
    Anyways, you're annoying and honestly, i'm tired of defending fiction ≠ reality, unwanted criticism for a story that you clearly didn't read.
    Good day to you, blocked.

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 9:59 pm
    Not a minor. Grew up in the don't like don't read, ignore and move on era. You know, before you learned how to use a phone. You are right about coercion but that's not what was happening in the story. You are a... zelinxi

    Bitch I ain't the one bitching

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 10:06 pm
    Not a minor. Grew up in the don't like don't read, ignore and move on era. You know, before you learned how to use a phone. You are right about coercion but that's not what was happening in the story. You are a... zelinxi

    Okay my bad what I meant to say was your trying so hard to sound like your smart while saying absolutely nothing of value. The way you typed all that just to circle back to ‘don’t like, don’t read’ show u clearly didn't read. you talk about being tired of criticism but spent a whole paragraph crying over someone’s review. Be serious. You’re not the main character in a fanfic, getting blocked by someone like you is a blessing.

    zelinxi April 15, 2025 10:16 pm
    Okay my bad what I meant to say was your trying so hard to sound like your smart while saying absolutely nothing of value. The way you typed all that just to circle back to ‘don’t like, don’t read’ show... Yuu08

    (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜 you're annoying. Go away.
    You talk a lot for someone who also doesn't know what they are saying.
    Just agree to disagree, fuck off.

    sky April 15, 2025 10:39 pm

    Agree on all points..
    Couldn't say it better

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 11:42 pm
    Agree on all points..Couldn't say it better sky

    Tyy <333 it's really annoying how ppl are actually defending this. Didn't know there were ppl that dumb ^^

    Valen April 16, 2025 1:07 am

    They all hate you for this, but you make perfect sense. The people on here always try to find a way to excuse these acts, mostly by claiming it's "just fiction", and it's just plain weird.

    Incase they don't understand how BDSM scenes work, consent to the play has to happen BEFOREHAND. A safe word doesnt excuse a consent violation. Yeah there is a safe word, but that's not there to stop an unconsenual act, it's to stop a consensual act that you have become uncomfortable with.

    If your partner is crying and asking you to stop when you have started an unexpected and unagreed upon type of intercourse, you stop. If you suspect your partner is questioning their willingness to continue the play, you slow down and ASK if they wish to continue. ESPECIALLY if your partner is known to have difficulty speaking up.

    Yuu08 April 16, 2025 3:29 am
    They all hate you for this, but you make perfect sense. The people on here always try to find a way to excuse these acts, mostly by claiming it's "just fiction", and it's just plain weird. Incase they don't und... Valen

    They’re just mad they got corrected and can’t handle it. Embarrassing honestly. Not gonna stress over people who lack basic comprehension, if they can’t grasp the point, they were never worth the energy to begin with. Not to mention I literally countered every one of their weak arguments but I guess they also lack the skill to read too </3

    xieyi April 16, 2025 6:00 am
    can y'all do this much work for real situations zelinxi

    oh i hope they would

    Kojie April 16, 2025 10:34 am
    Lol but speaking logical! this is especially for all the white female minors who think fetishizing gay men is a personality trait and still can’t grasp basic comprehension skills. (Oh and I say again bc I kno... Yuu08

    NONOOMF URE GETTING UNRIGHTEOUSNESLY FLAMED BY THE HORDE IS OK EVEN THO I LOVE THE STORY I GET UR TAKE TOO. Sadly I don't think I've seen a manhwa that uses safewords yet :( I wish they did do that in bdsm stories I think the only bdsm one that's like decently written is a really old manhwa called Blood Bank? I might be wrong cuz it's been a good while since I've read.

    Yuu08 April 16, 2025 11:16 am
    NONOOMF URE GETTING UNRIGHTEOUSNESLY FLAMED BY THE HORDE IS OK EVEN THO I LOVE THE STORY I GET UR TAKE TOO. Sadly I don't think I've seen a manhwa that uses safewords yet :( I wish they did do that in bdsm stor... Kojie

    Lmaoo who say I care about them lol not my fault they're idiots. They yapping like there right when not a single vaild arugement has brought up. Speak up bitches. At least have something else different to say.

    There just being pussy bc they know it's wrong. And everytime I reply they ain't gonna read it bc there scared. Anyway a very good BDSM bl manhwa I would recommend is "Aporia" it very good and somewhat realistic. You should def read it.

    Kojie April 16, 2025 11:43 am
    Lmaoo who say I care about them lol not my fault they're idiots. They yapping like there right when not a single vaild arugement has brought up. Speak up bitches. At least have something else different to sa... Yuu08

    Oooooo tytyyy will definitely check that out ty for the recommendation!!
    (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Nobody April 16, 2025 1:23 pm
    Lmaoo who say I care about them lol not my fault they're idiots. They yapping like there right when not a single vaild arugement has brought up. Speak up bitches. At least have something else different to sa... Yuu08

    Bro is reflecting so bad

    Nobody April 16, 2025 1:41 pm

    They probably dont reply cause all your replies sound the same Heh they just keep saying the same things pussy pussy pussies heh im so cool im like protecting so many people from getting consented rn heh I make fun of people doing the same things im doing heh female minors
    But like congrats bro you're actually so entertaning LOL imagine feeling so high and mighty behind a screen talking abt consent abt some pixels HELPP

    Yuu08 April 16, 2025 4:01 pm
    They probably dont reply cause all your replies sound the same Heh they just keep saying the same things pussy pussy pussies heh im so cool im like protecting so many people from getting consented rn heh I mak... Nobody

    No wonder your name is Nobody cause that’s exactly the level of relevance and brain activity you bring to the conversation.

    Parie April 16, 2025 6:00 pm
    No wonder your name is Nobody cause that’s exactly the level of relevance and brain activity you bring to the conversation. Yuu08

    You are totally right! People here justify rape by saying that it's just fiction and not reality. Like if you are still rooting for the ml and mc to get together even after one has raped the other, you are just a horrible person. These people would justify getting off to baby pics by saying it's fiction.

    Nobody April 17, 2025 1:04 am

    Thats all you can say LOLLL just cause I was getting on your level btw so guess what youre making fun of yourself ,you too dont bring any relevance you're funny dawg

    Yuu08 April 17, 2025 1:22 am
    You are totally right! People here justify rape by saying that it's just fiction and not reality. Like if you are still rooting for the ml and mc to get together even after one has raped the other, you are just... Parie

    Literally! These people here can't even read or spell why do they think there some god bc they defend that shit.

    coffeedrinker April 17, 2025 4:17 pm

    Also incredibly important: A dom SHOULD NOT be picking the safe word for the sub. Ash picked a safe word that Lyle did not feel comfortable using. He damn well knows that Lyle doesn’t feel comfortable calling him ‘Honey’. They effectively do not have a safe word because it is not one Lyle will use.

    Valen April 19, 2025 12:27 pm
    Also incredibly important: A dom SHOULD NOT be picking the safe word for the sub. Ash picked a safe word that Lyle did not feel comfortable using. He damn well knows that Lyle doesn’t feel comfortable calling... coffeedrinker

    THIS ESPECIALLY!! Besides, there had been no previous talk of doing any form of BDSM play. Ash used sex as a means for forcing information out of his partner, which no matter way you look at this, is rape (and this whole scene was completely out of the blue and very out of character.)

    xieyi April 19, 2025 2:45 pm

    why is this argument still going on

    Yuu08 April 19, 2025 3:28 pm
    why is this argument still going on xieyi

    Nobody is asking u to keep checking

    2 minus 1 April 22, 2025 6:15 am

    You really took the words out of my mouth, I couldn’t agree more with you, because what Ash did is wrong and it upsets me that a lot of people doesn’t seem to realise and even justify Ash actions. Lyle didn’t consent to a BDSM play because he wasn’t aware that it was a thing for him it was most likely something shameful and uncomfortable…

    Yuu08 April 22, 2025 6:28 am
    You really took the words out of my mouth, I couldn’t agree more with you, because what Ash did is wrong and it upsets me that a lot of people doesn’t seem to realise and even justify Ash actions. Lyle didn... 2 minus 1

    Sadly, there are idiots out there, and I honestly feel bad for them. It’s wild that, even with all my points, they still ignore the real message. Hiding behind a screen and using 'it's just fiction' as an excuse. No point in responding when they can’t even bother to read, especially after I’ve repeated myself so many times.

    Reversejutsu April 23, 2025 5:41 am

    Don’t let them silence you you’re right

Yuu08 April 14, 2025 8:14 pm

I'm just gonna hope that it end like "Do You Still Like Me?" And wait until there enough chapter bc rn it's not good

    Dobby April 14, 2025 8:58 pm

    Did u just mention peak?!??!!

    Yuu08 April 15, 2025 5:20 am
    Did u just mention peak?!??!! Dobby

    Literally my fav alpha x alpha. After "define the relationship" new side story (which was ass) "do you still like me" is my fav omegaverse now. Love that manhwa

Yuu08 April 13, 2025 4:55 am

Ain’t no fucking way y’all are seriously agreeing with what Ash did. Like, let’s be real and break this down.

> “Ash literally says that Lyle can still propose. Nothing was ruined.”

Yeah, he can still propose but the effort Lyle put into planning a thoughtful, genuine proposal was completely disregarded. Having to blurt it out just to stop an uncomfortable situation doesn’t just “reset” because there’s a second chance. The whole point of a proposal is that it’s meaningful, genuine, and given freely not something dragged out under emotional pressure. Just because Ash said, “you can still propose later,” doesn’t mean the emotional impact of the original moment isn’t tainted. You can’t just pretend that a uncomfortable situation didn’t happen because there’s a redo option. I understand that in later chapter there ACTUAL proposal was cute and etc but that still doesn't excuse what Ash did. Do not overlook this as a simple "he say sorry and Lyle was okay with it too" no tf he was not. U can tell he was uncomfortable and didn't wanna be put in that situation.


> “He apologized for forcing it out.”

And? An apology doesn’t erase the consequences of his actions. Apologizing is the absolute bare minimum after you make someone feel cornered and uncomfortable. The issue isn’t whether he apologized, it’s that he shouldn’t have needed to in the first place. A genuine partner doesn’t ignore repeated signs of hesitation or discomfort just to satisfy their own timeline or desires. The apology doesn’t fix the fact that Lyle was clearly not ready, clearly hesitant, and clearly emotionally overwhelmed in that moment. Even when they were at the sex toy shop or whatever Lyle was clearly uncomfortable and didn't wanna be there.

> “He’s going to give Lyle another chance to propose properly.”

Again, that doesn’t address the root of the issue. This isn’t just about “letting Lyle try again.” It’s about the fact that Ash already crossed a major emotional boundary. Throughout the story, Lyle has often gone along with things he wasn’t totally okay with, just because Ash was. That’s a pattern, and it speaks volumes. Consent and comfort should never be based on someone else’s enthusiasm. A proposal should be something that both people are emotionally ready for, not something squeezed out through guilt, pressure, or whatever.

> "Other point, we can't forget that Lyle could have use the safe word"

"Lyle could’ve used the safe word" is such a dismissive take. Just because someone technically has an way out doesn’t mean they feel safe or empowered enough to use it especially when they’re overwhelmed or if there with someone they care about. Safe words are there to protect consent during mutual play, not to excuse one partner for blatantly ignoring the other’s discomfort and boundaries. Using a safe word should never be seen as the only line between "okay" and "not okay." The fact that someone hasn’t used it doesn’t automatically mean they’re okay, it means they might be too overwhelmed to speak up, too scared, or simply don’t feel they can. It was literally fucking seen with lyle crying and asking ash to stop. A healthy partner picks up on subtle cues, reads the emotional landscape, and respects boundaries without needing a sign that says "stop." That’s not a failure on Lyle’s part; it’s a failure on Ash’s for putting him in that position in the first place. Ash should’ve been more aware and considerate, not pushing him into an uncomfortable situation just because HE was ready.

Stop excusing Ash’s behavior because he said sorry. If he really cared, he would’ve stopped the second he saw how distressed Lyle was. That’s what love looks like, not forcing a moment and cleaning it up after. And the fact that the author completely glossed over that violation by having them immediately jump into a sex scene afterward? Tone-deaf as hell. It sends the message that discomfort and emotional pressure can be smoothed over with sex and a half-hearted “sorry,” and that’s not okay.

This was supposed to be a comfort manhwa something warm, tender, and respectful. Instead, it turned into a story where boundaries doesnt matter anymore and the fandom just shrugs because the ML is hot and said “sorry.”

Be so fucking for real.

    ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ April 13, 2025 5:11 am

    you ate with this omfie, i feel so uncomfortable looking at ash forcing lyle since side 8. like even during ash's rut, i feel like he like forcing things onto him just to make him cry. a chronically online comparison is Wilbur Soot, he likes to bite his lover to the point of bruising. at first she didn't mind it but he continues to do it to an extent that he wants to see a reaction from his bites (a.k.a. gives painful bites to the point of bruising). it's an exaggerated comparison but honestly, the sentiment is there. what ash is doing could be bearable for lyle but since lyle isn't even kinky to begin with, it could easily be abusive in the long run.

    you can enjoy the sex and story but you need to know that this is a non-consented play. so don't just brush it off because your opinion carries to reality.

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