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I think you don't know what BDSM is if you call this think BDSM.

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.... because then it’s not bdsm anymore. Chanwoo can’t consent because he’s mentally unstable and MD knows that. This is abuse. Do NOT call it bdsm, because bdsm is consensual.

yeah you’re right bdsm is way more than this is legit soft stuff compared to real bdsm. but clearly you haven’t actually experienced it so you don’t know how exactly it goes.

if he’s mentally unstable he shouldn’t be doing this at all and instead get help. but in no chapter does it mention he’s unstable so stop assuming. this is not abuse. this was consented from his part.

Yeah, he really shouldn’t be doing this at all. It’s almost like he was being forced to, huh? Also, yes mentally stable people just absolutely LOVE to be choked to death. They adore almost being murdered <3

WHEN WAS HE FORCED TO GO ALONG WITH THIS PLAY? IF ANYTHING HES THE ONE WHO oh i don’t know went fucking along with it at the cafe? stop making excuses for him because you enjoy that. show me an episode where he was forced to do something WITHOUT consent because he’s agreed to EVERYTHING.

chanwoo was never CLAIMED to be unstable you dumb fuck!

Do they discuss every element before scene? Because he was shocked when he was made to make out with other guy. He didn't give consent to that. MD is crossing the line. And pressuring him into play by making some conditions which impact his choices.

Mentally/emotionally unstable people and coerced people cannot consent. Once MD realized Chanwoo is unstable, everything after that became non consensual.

“What do you mean they’re unstable? They said yes last time, so that means they said yes this time too.”

Lmfao get mad, abuse excuser. Maybe from this you can learn the difference between consensual and non consensual acts.

oh please, he can't say the safeword despite being strangled to death my MD, he can't even leave his abusive ex to the point he was beaten. idk Chanwoo has issues. alright? stop gaslighting

like i said show me a chapter where it says he’s mentally unstable. i’m WAITING

and stop making excuses for someone who doesn’t know how to use a safe word when needed . do more research on what actual BDSM is

OP would still defend MD because he is hot lmao

Idk what you’re waiting for, since I clearly said it was when he was nearly choked to death. But while I’m at it, I’ll also point to the handful of times where he said he was ok when his face was bruised

you also need to know when someone is being abused or not. with your weak ass arguments, I guess your only reading material are 50 shades of grey and yaoi

LITERALLY tho smfh if MD was ugly or a woman, nobody would be defending them. Fucking disgusting is what it is.

no i just know first hand experience what bdsm is y’all just want chanwoo to be this sort of saint when he agreed to everything

i did not go through bdsm with with a woman for you to assume i’d think differently LMAO just say you’re sensitive and go

He didn’t tho, aaaaaand you’re still an abuse excuser :^)

HE CANT USE THE SAFEWORD BECAUSE CLEARLY HE DOESNT KNOW HE IS BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE. MD clearly used this to teach him when to say no. GUESS WHAT? MD DISCOVERED THAT CHANWOO IS A SUB WHO CANT USE A SAFEWORD.

AND CLEARLY MD IS TAKING THIS AS AN ADVANTAGE TO THIS FUCKED UP "SUB TEST" MD KNEW CHANWOO CAN'T SAY NO AND LEAVE.

GAHHHH GET THAT IN OUR THICK HEADED SKULL. bitch ass abuse excuser

I’m sorry you got abused, but it doesn’t make sense for other abuse disguised as bdsm to be recognized. This is why bdsm is such a taboo smfh

Sorry that your Dom abused you if you think this is okay .-.

LOL. here a reading material for you ahahahahhahaha

https:// ( www ).thehotline.org/is-this-abuse/why-do-people-stay-in-abusive-relationships/

are you really making fun of people who actually went through an abusive relationship and comparing it my CONSENTING relationship ? and just when i thought you couldn’t stoop lower LMAO

hi i was never abused i consented thanks <3

Wonderful! If only chanwoo could consent too, then he wouldn’t be abused :^)

oh now, your trying to put me into bad light? I GAVE YOU THE LINK BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHY MD WAS A DAMN ABUSIVE SHIT. Dont give me that shit

I wish you can read it. but I think you wont because you have a warped idea of what consent and what is not. have a good day! <3

when you actually experience first hand bdsm and know exactly what it is come to me because it seems you keep thinking their relationship is something other than bdsm.
and yeah i’m trying to put you into a bad light because you’re laughing at the fact that supposedly i stayed in a abusive relationship <3

I dont even know about your damn relationship. I was talking about Chanwoo's and MD's relatiosnhip. what gave you the idea that I was pertaining to you? what are you even talking about. I was talking about Chanwoo's consent troughout all this. I dont give a damn about your sex life. damn

HAHAHAHA I AM LAUGHING!!! are we talking about the same thing? are you high?! I was not talking about you!!! I THOUGHT THIS WAS ABOUT BJ ALEX, when did it turn into your damn bdsm relationshio. get off your high horse!!! lmao. oh shit!!!! HAHAHAHA

chapter 87 hello? MD literally had to stop the play himself because he could tell chanwoo was struggling on whether or not to use the safe word. big red flag. MD, who knows that chanwoo has been in abusive relationships before, is just using his power role as a dom to force chanwoo to either accept him or leave him and that’s fucked up. idk if you’re a sub or a dom but if your partner was clearly uncomfortable you would still continue to do this shit? yikes

and before you say “oh well this is chanwoo’s fault he could just leave him anytime he wants” he clearly does not want to leave MD because he values their relationship and MD knows this yet is making chanwoo and this other sub compete for his petty ass. “oh it was just a slap that was nothing” cool let me slap my sub who has been hit by his boyfriend in an abusive relationship before because that will clearly solve this problem and cause him to realize his feelings for me

Exactly. Do these people really know what BDSM is??? Bondage-DISCIPLINE, Dominate-submit, sadism-masochism. Physical punishment is part of it and he did repeatedly give him leave to well... leave. Chanwoo is also getting some come uppance here. He is playing with MD's feelings too. Does he really expect MD to be able to continue their relationship after being rejected romantically? AND I would have dropped Chanwoo when he refused to use his safeword. Both parties need to trust the other. M.D. can no longer trust that Chanwoo will be honest to say when he is at the limit. This is just inviting serious injury. I hope Chanwoo learns his lesson.

He hasn't consented to this. In fact he said not and then was blackmailed into saying yes. This is NOT A PLAY. The first time he said he wanted out ALL SHOULD HAVE STOPPED. And yeah, sure, MD should've consider them done if that's what he wanted. But THIS IS NOT HOW IT WORKS. The rules are stated BEFORE EVERY PLAY. Chanwoo clearly didn't know that he was gonna be slapped if he felt uncomfortable.

Why didn't he dump him,then? If he knows that he isn't a suitable sub, that's what a responsible Dom should do. Because he is bitter. This is revenge.

he gave him an opportunity to walk out. and the only reason he’s still there is because he’s only thinking with his dick. if he doesn’t want it he can leave now. if he stays he needs to go through it with it because he’s doing it under his own free will. he’s not a kid. safe words exist for a REASON and he’s not using it.

Yes and his DOM KNOWS THAT AND STILL ISN'T STOPPING EITHER. Can't you see that?

SAFE. WORD.
it all comes down to safe word. people legit enjoy others doing things to them even when saying no and their relationship is all that. the same thing happened in a different chapter where MD was CLEARLY uncomfortable with the play but chanwoo pressured him to it to the point he had to stop. do you not understand how a BDSM relationship works? this is not some lovely dovey relationship like with jiwon and DG if he can’t open his mouth to say his safe word that’s ON HIM.

No, dude. It's CLEARLY you who doesn't understand. Chanwoo didn't force MD to use the safe word, he did it because he was getting out of hand with a play and KNEW that he could hurt a sub that doesn't know where his limits are. You can discuss that Chanwoo isn't a good sub because he is too immature or stubborn. But all of this??? Is on the Dom

Not really. Like Chanwoo even said. MD hadn't called him since. MD is thinking about it and hasn't done any "play" since he didn't use the safe word. It may be revenge but it IS consensual. There may be some pain but there isn't any damage or real injury. Personally I cheered for MD. I hope they get their HEA. The real turd here is the ex sub.

Consent was withdrawn the instant MD learned that Chanwoo is unable to say the safe word. This is abuse, not bdsm.

and why should the dom have all the responsibility on this? have you done bdsm before? do you know how it actually works and it takes BOTH parties for this? all it takes it ONE word and all of this can stop. legit ONE WORD. why should MD have to be blamed for chanwoo being immature and stubborn? he’s not a kid he’s a grown ass man and everyone is treating him like a child. literally all he needs is one word and it’s over with, but chanwoo is thinking with his dick and everything that comes to him is his responsibility as well.

OMFG. He is unstable. And it's clear. He didn't use safe word while being strangled to death. When he was literally choking and couldn't breath.

Yes, I have. Yes I've been taken advantage of by Dom that saw that I didn't care for ny boundaries and pushed too far. Sorry, but that's BAD. Sorry, it's the Dom responsibility, not only to punish but also to TEACH.

LMAO if you don’t care for your OWN boundaries that’s YOUR PROBLEM. your dom isn’t a mind reader both are responsible if you can’t understand that then you should work on what’s actually best when it comes to a bdsm relationship

Wtf no, that's not how this works. It's a team work. You have to know a lot the other person to understand them, to know when you're maybe going too far. There are literally plays where you're blindfolded/gaged/tied up. EVERYTHING needs to be discussed before, and agreed with. And the moment it gets uncomfortable IT HAS TO STOP. Otherwise you're putting people in LITERAL DANGER. Obviously you have responsibility for your own well being, but as his Dom HE DOES AS WELL, AND HE IS IGNORING THAT FACT. Chanwoo shouldn't be a sub as long as we don't know why he has so many abusive relationships. But that doesn't give MD the right to abuse him as well.

You know shit about BDSM when you are making excuses for me who broke so many fuckin rules in this pseudo play.

I can see that you have a really good heart and have a strong sense of right and wrong. Don't ever lose that. It's wonderful and I like you. However I don't think you are cut out for the world of BDSM personally. In this world there is a very strong adherence to right and wrong and what is acceptable. But striking a partner is acceptable. I also think MD's play here is mild. I think he really wants to push Chanwoo to use safe word or leave. He keeps asking him. This is also for Chanwoos own good. If the relationship ends and Chanwoo finds another Dom but still won't use the safe word it would be really really dangerous. So in one sense this is like parenting tough love. Forget i said parent cuz eww. but you know what i mean. I think in the end it will be better for him. I don't think it's all for revenge. I think it's also training and teaching.

Stop saying this is bdsm. ITS NOT. Bdsm is CONSENSUAL. The “play” in this chapter was NOT consensual.

I mean????? I already said that I would've left. I learnt the hard way that there are bad Doms who take advantage of the situation. While I do agree that if the outcome is what they said (that is some sort of teaching) the way he is doing it is totally unacceptable. That's it. Because Chanwoo is clueless and the damage he can be doing it's maybe too much for him to handle

I meant that I agree that if that's the outcome and not forcing actual sex between those two, maybe I'm not gonna hate it sooo much, still, it's pretty icky

How do you definite consensual? MD asked Chanwoo agreed. MD gave multiple opportunity to stop. Chanwoo kept saying I'll do it. But i do think that MD is trying to teach multiple lessons here. And yes i do think MD has thought of all this. It's not just revenge. And i am confident that MD can control this within proper boundaries so Chanwoo understands. No it's not your typical BDSM play. This IS to teach Chanwoo and I think it is for his own good.

I was so

Noo ahhh i dont ship dobin with those 2 i want them to be a couple and maybe dobin could be a best friend these comments are hurting my hearttt