First, I want to come out and agree with the majority: Ginger is a dumbass. Let’s shake our hands on this.
But she isn’t the worst dumbass I’ve seen in comics. She’s they typical average dumbass FL you see in any manga in this godforsaken hellscape that we call “the internet”. She’s literally a dime a dozen. But the reason why people are flaming her too hard in particular (compared to other mangas) is because A) the situation is rather straightforward and a Ginger was literally given a map on how to traverse but she basically squanders it in favor of being “blinded by love” and not bothering to think one step ahead and B) I’m assuming that a lot of readers here have common sense and we’re all rather introverted individuals meaning we have a lot of practice being inside our own heads and fleshing out our thoughts. Combining this together we got an audience who are capable of critical thinking reading a character who lacks it.
Yes: because Ginger is a clinical dumbass that it makes her human and easy to understand. You don’t need to be a genius to figure out what she’s thinking. But Ginger simultaneously act like those frat girls you see in horror movies and the weird kid you knew at school that everyone was forced to avoid (or forced to hang out with cause your parents are friends with each other).
People defending her are missing the point about why the majority hates Ginger (and they probably didn’t realize these were the reasons or weren’t able to formulate it in this manner).
- Ginger is another straw to add onto our back of “stupid FL”. There’s a million of them. We’re plagued by them. Smart or Strong FL are rare, and I’m not counting the Mary Sue ones and definitely not the FL that are she-hulks (all brawn but not an inch of common sense).
- Ginger was given a handicap at the start of the story and immediately squandered it with bad decisions
- The way she fell in love is... mmm, not “unrealistic” but incriminating vain and superficial. I’m sure a lot of us know those sort of people who fall in “love” the same way but then immediately break up... love that shares the same expiration date as milk. It’s one thing if the author addresses these issues and point it out but we don’t have high hopes with lazy authors these days.
- Talking about lazy authors, this author is relying solely on Ginger’s incompetence to have any stakes or conflict in the story. Yes there’s her sister and that butler dude, but they could have been more than enough without Ginger’s stupidity. It’s a lot more rewarding and tense building knowing that the hero is going up against their equal or someone greater. But with Ginger? It’s like watching a bodybuilder beat up a disabled person (no offense to anyone). It’s not dramatic... just sad.
- the author is kind of... insulting the audience’s intelligence. In our modern world where technology is increasing everyday, our education is increasing as well to the point that we all have some level of critical thinking skills. We are a product of our times but our stories aren’t keeping up. Blah blah blah, Ginger doesn’t live in our time doesn’t excuse the author (who does live in our time!!!) not treating the audience with intellectual respect.
- Because we’re all more educated, we’re rightfully asking for more from our FLs. And no, not quite “OP”. If you think having some level of education or common sense is a super power, I’m sorry our authors failed you. I remembered seeing this stupid post defending a dumb FL going “I’m sorry I’m not cool, smart, strong, emotionally strong, or have any actual traits. But at least I’m kind!” Is that supposed to be impressive? Being nice is the bare fucking minimum and “nice” is subjective to begin with. What is this? Do we still live in the 1800’s where a woman is expected to be a mother and a nun at the same time? We’re allowed to ask for more.
- Ginger is simply the wrong character to try to relate to the audiences on this site. She’s the frat girl (again no offense) while audiences are the shy girls (seriously no offense just an equation). Vastly different worlds and Ginger has yet to show any real relatability to an a moderately educated audience with intuition. And don’t argue with “American audiences aren’t the targeted audience”. THATS EVEN WORST. HAVE YOU COMPARED KOREAN EDUCATION WITH AMERICAN???? They blow us out of the water!!!! If American audiences consider it laughable, what more Korean?
I have more but this is getting to damn long. Also, I saw someone commenting about a salary woman knowing calculus as “unrealistic”... that’s really sad if you think that. I’m an English major and I know fucking calculus. It’s seriously not that impressive. And remember, it’s Asian education and they’re advanced. I went to school overseas for a year and they were teaching trigonometry and pre-calculus to middle schools when we only start learning that in high school in America. Thanks to that one year, I blew out my peers when I returned to school and got an A in Calculus. And that’s just one year of foundation, what more an entire childhood and teenage years?
Sigh... this shit tires me...
dude I'm halfway reading your comment but it's too long can you summarize it for me
Wow. Ngl, that was really entertaining to read, and I think you spoke all of our minds lmao
I am with you there a lot of dumb and annoying FL's and a lot of them are from chinese manhwas and japanese mangas
I am with you there a lot of dumb and annoying FL's and a lot of them are from chinese manhwas and japanese mangas and I just the moment they start being annoying
This webtoon however may have a dumb FL but at least her stupidity is entertaining. And I still have no reason to drop this
this is straight fax. you said what we were all thinking & I couldnt have said it any better lolol
Bruh, what’s the point in giving your FL powers and naming your story as such but immediately forget that fact several chapters in?
Absolutely braindead nonsense. It’s like those moments where authors create a character way smarter than the actual author.
Is anyone surprised that this manga is shit if the author can’t even stay consistent with the one thing that’s literally in the title? Lmao
I forget everytime that she has this ability.
This manga is like the poor man’s version of Cheating Men Must Die. Smh
Nope, this one comes earlier, with thousands of chapters and solid stories. Cheating Men Must Die is the bootleg version of many other novels in the genre.
That's absolutely right. I love CMMD but it's basically an amalgamation of every no romance qt female mc novel... ╮(￣▽￣)╭
To make clear for you why you are wrong about this...
I'll reply this in every comment comparing the two.
Look... first of all... this is just ONE ACR of a novel. And the comic from it makes no justice to the novel. It's name is Cannon fodder records of counterattacks. Just in case you want to check it out. But you should really read the novel.
Now... let's talk about the similarities and differences between them ok?
Cmmd and Cfrc are similar in 2 points only: they are quick transmigration (qt) and are not romance (usually qt romance has one guy they meet in every world that don't keep their memory but follows the mc around the many worlds and they end up together) that's it.
That's the only similarities. Now for the differences.
Su Luxia is obviously not a "normal person" from the start, it's clear even on the side story about her 1st mission. Ning Shu is a 27yo who died after spending most of her life in a hospital bed. So... she is not OP at all... if anything she is worse than normal people. No knowledge, no relationship experience, no high stats, nothing. So in the first words she has it real hard and this arc is a challenge arc so she can be considered a normal host instead os a fricking noobie.
NS's system is not helpful AT ALL as you've saw unlike SL's bamboo rat he does nothing for her and actually expected her to not even live enough to get over being a noobie. That's how weak she starts as. No system store, no help finding the targets location, no accompanying her through the worlds. She has almost no help from him at all in almost all the worlds she goes.
Cmmd is about a OP mc abusing scum and bettering that body's life. Cfrc is about a WEAK mc getting stronger TO SURVIVE and completing the body's wishes.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love cheating men must die. But in regards of character development and world building Cannon fodder wins. Maybe because it's a novel with more than 4k chapters and not only a comic.
The novel is way more slow paced than cmmd... and as I said, besides those 2 points (and getting revenge on others) they are not really similar.
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Remember that cringe deviantart meme that goes like: “In a world where there’s no women... Welcome to the world of yaoi.”
We came full circle.
Top ten mangas that I want to see having a crossover with Cheating Men Must Die...
Number One- This shit that keeps on getting translated for some reason.
Hell yeah, Su Lüxia would clean up this story and run the kingdom while finding some random guy who was barely mentioned in the original but who truly has the talent to be king and stand by her side!
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Exactly^^^
We need this piece of shit manga have a cross over with Cheating Men Must Die. I want this fan fiction on my desk by tomorrow morning ASAP people!!!
Why are we not funding this?!
Yesss, Someone please write it!!
How long has these homophobic, racist, and transphobic messages been up? Everyone, continue reporting this manga until mangago respond.
It’s extremely distasteful considering what’s going on in the US. Dark humor is funny and poking fun of situations can help people overcome emotional difficulties. But the thing is: you kinda need to be funny for the joke to be considered a joke. Shocking, I know. But the translator and the “jokes” they’re making has as much charisma as a soggy piece of toast. There’s nothing funny in blatantly making a comment like “Trans have no rights.” There’s no punchline, build up, or visual cues. Nothing. It’s simply a stance the translator is announcing to everyone. And covering the translator’s ass by saying “it’s just a joke bro” or “the manga isn’t that deep to begin with” make you look like a clown. It’s like that one sus friend in a group who says something fucked up, hoping the squad would agree but when they notice that no one is laughing they have to go “it’s just a joke bro!” To protect themselves from being called out. So put away the clown nose and pick up the crown you left behind.
I checked out the translator’s twitter (someone posted the twitter name in the comments) and the translator is exactly what he presented: racist, homophobic, and transphobic. So where’s the joke when he means everything they say?
Sigh... just because you’re entitled to an opinion doesn’t mean you’re immune to criticism. Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from repercussions. Yes, the manga is satirical in nature but it’s obvious that the manga writer is against Donald Trump seeing how the mayor character is a corrupt politician with a shitty son who ultimately die in a fire. If you can’t see it and think that the George Floyd “meme” was funny, then kids movies that use shit and fart jokes have a better sense of humor than you (the translator).
Hope people don't go as far as doxxing as a legitimate form of criticism （￣へ￣）
Shiiiit. This female leads is extremely soft for a “mean girl” archetype. She’s like a Disney villain in a reboot where they’re trying to make her the hero now. If we were to compare me and my friend’s player days, we make the female lead look like a fallen angel tbh... and we didn’t even need to be a home wrecker.
I expected an actual bad woman though that expectation is probably too high tbh.
Also, can’t take the guy seriously because we share the same name smh
ikr~ you really can't expect a badass fl in these cheap pornos lol so disappointing...
Lmaoo I see you and your friend were troublemakers back in the days
We’re still trouble makers now! Lmao
Well, we got bored of messing around and we did it mostly out of research; not trauma lol
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I can’t stop myself!!!
Simp! Simp! Simp!
Simp alert! Simp alert! The female lead is a major simp!!!
Tbh, I would choose Uno since he acts like a decent human being and you can actually hold a conversation with him.
Anyways, I never read the original coffee manga but with this couple, they don’t share much in common besides their chemistry in bed. Good for smut purposes, I suppose. But I would get bored of a relationship like this real fast ngl
you should totally read the original its really good better then this on its name is Coffee and Vanilla