Pachinko's Topics (272)

i 100% agree.... too bad the other dude is married.. he seems way more respectful >.>

I guess people do have different views. To me, i hated hotaka's half-assed attitude. I know that there were story behind his half-assed attitude but doesnt really justify it. Chika did not force himself on hotaka, he just did what any normal lover would do. he also stopped when hotaka really (REALLY) wanted him to stop..Okay...and that fuckin* married guy is nowhere near respectable whatsoever. Just another guy with half-assed attitude and feeling. Marrying someone without thinking of the long term consequences, i mean, whats gonna happen to Nayu. She lived with both parents and if suddenly the father decided to just pull out from marriage and yeah this is comic and both parties maybe will be fine with it but it will never (Never) be fine with the child. No matter how happy the author potrays them later.

Okay. Thats my thought on this. Cant wait for the development of all characters. I just dont like the married guy (dont even bother to remember his name).

I agree with Hotaka being all chilly willy and having a half-assed attitude. Thats what I ment with going with the flow. Thats totaly not cool of him. But I still don't like Chika, I still do think that he is forcing himself on Hotaka. Those two combined .... well you see what is happening.
I pity Chikas Brother, I guess it seemed right at the time he did it, and now the consequences are weighting on his shoulders.

I too am looking forward of things developing. (▰˘◡˘▰) Let's see how it turns out.

What? He literally raped Hotaka... There was penetration and everything... He had been pressuring Hotaka for anal and Hotaka kept saying no, when he got jealous of his friend being close to Hotaka during the trip he waited till Hotaka got drunk and everyone fell asleep, tied Hotaka up and fingered his ass (ch 2, page 32-41) while he was protesting and saying "i didn't give you permission" (direct quote from Hotaka-ch 2, pg 39 in the middle of the page). There is literally NO argument for it not being rape. Even AFTER the rape Hotaka is mad, he wasn't okay with what happened(ch 3, pg 9. It's shown in a comedic light, but Masato even says that Hotaka is mad).

Also, Chika was going to go all the way, Masato stopped him. Chika didn't and wasn't going to stop. I don't think Masato is such a bad guy either, had you considered that maybe he only married her because of the child? He seems to be getting ready for a divorce. I know you're concerned about the child, but i can assure you that staying wouldn't have been much better as the parents don't seem to care for each other enough to stay together. Masato also has his own happiness to worry about, as long as he's not abandoning the child i see no reason for him to stay with her and hate his life. How do you think him staying could possibly be the better choice? If he's wanting a divorce then the damage has already been done, the child would know that.

Maybe chika was too much during the trip..but they were stopped. And when they had sex in hota's room, he willingly (although half assed) allowed chika. And honestly, i still think masato is no good. I mean if he wanted divorce afterward, he should have taken the wife's offer in the first place. She said she can take care of the child (if i remember correctly). And they could have taken care of the child even without marriage if they really feel responsible for it. It feels like marriage and divorce are really taken lightly here. And i really dont like that. And if u rely on the child being understanding of the situation, i'm not sure if thats a good/right thing to do.

Yes, the 2nd time was consensual, but the 1st time was rape. Is it no longer rape if the rapist is stopped? Well, shit. He didn't stop him in time either, Chika fingered his ass, that's penetration. He literally says "i didn't give you permission".

Also, i believe the reason it feels like marriage/divorce is taken lightly here is because of social expectations. He might have gotten her pregnant and been expected to marry her only to realize he's gay, japan is very strict. As far as them taking care of the child without the marriage, i think that is where the story is headed. I want to clear up a misunderstanding, i'm not saying the child will understand them splitting up and be okay with it, when i said "the child will understand" i meant the child would understand that their parents weren't happy if they stayed together. I was saying that, yes, the child might suffer in the divorce depending on how they go about it, but the child would suffer just as much staying with 2 parents who aren't happy together.

if you say its rape then it might be what you think it is.. still i don't like masato, but if you like him then i have no right to stop you. And i'm not Japanese nor living in Japan so, i'm not sure how society perceive this kind of things over there. But if he did get into the marriage due to society's expectation, then that would make him more unlikable to me for having no principle of his own. Then again, its up to you if you think he's a likeable character. I mean people have their own opinion and ive got mine soooo there ya go...

I'm not saying you can't have your own opinion on Masato, i'm just talking to you. As far as the rape thing, that's black and white rape, if a guy fingered a girl's vagina and was stopped RIGHT before he could put his penis inside her literally no one would be like "oh, well he didn't put his penis in...".

i guess it is... i'm not a rape expert..

I feel like you don't want to talk to me, so i'm jumping ship.

Probably both xD

it's already happening to me sheet

I feel you, I can never look at manga the same way again

Nope it is not as simple as that. If you read the story properly you would notice he does not know in the least what's going on. There are other major wealthy players working behind the scenes to separate our two lovers. And the executives and CEO of T-Rex also have major parts to play in what is about to go down. I don't want to spoil anything for you but you will find out about what's going on in due time.