Spoiler but I feel like everybody knows at this point:
Bro, why did Oscar cheat in the second life if he spent that much effort trying to marry mc, wtf is wrong with him
Also idk if I’ll read this cause I kinda don’t want a stress ulcer lol
Is it truly as stressful as I imagine it to be? Cause if it’s not, I might read it, cause I want to see ml be head over heels in love lol—
To be honest I haven't thought so.
It's not like those "omg he cheated on me, but now he loves me so I love him" But is is, "Omg I cheated on her but I've realised I love her, and so I am going to act better"
But I kind of like it because the FL obviously has no desire for the man at the beginning. And yes he did cheat because he thought she was uninterested (which she was so, go her, boo him). But he suffers for it, and he knows he will never have her heart so ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~ suffer bitch. She has a true love that he can never replace the same way.
dont know if this is like the real cause but just a wild guess. I think its bcs Oscar knows that Inez has feelings for Carcel (even if Inez wasn’t aware of it herself). And the dude has crazy inferiority complex towards Carcel
I’m seriously confused here. Who are you talking about? ML as in Carcel? Who is her true love that can never be replaced?
Chest on her when he was married to her in the crown princess timeline? Crown Prince Oscar did it for revenge.
It’s not stressful. The main story takes place in the best timeline ever. The tragedies that FL suffered were in the past timelines. Like someone else said below in a comment, this is more like a healing story.
Her "true love" is her second husband (I haven't read the novel spoilers but in my mind it's one of those relationships that ended not because they fell out of love, but the universe wouldn't let them be together). ML as in Carcel. Oscar deserves hell (first husband and a dude that should actually shoot himself in the dick).
No. Her relationship with Emiliano WAS NOT her true love. It was love but not her true love. Did you not realize he also came to paint her in the timeline she married the crown prince? How come she didn’t even notice him then? She only noticed him in the timeline she regressed because she was looking for a man to runaway with. Any good looking man would have been good enough for her. Author even said that Ines did not love the painter at the beginning when she ran away with him. It’s after they were ALONE together as fugitives and he treated her like a princess, unlike Oscar treated her, that’s when she learned to love him. So please do not go around telling new readers that he is her one true love.
As much as you also think Carcel is begging for Ines love, he is the only man in this story that she wasn’t open to loving. She treated him like someone she didn’t want to love from the beginning. Then why had she fallen for him when she was determined not to love him but divorce him instead? Why then did she fall for him? Because her heart began to love him NATURALLY. He wasn’t a fugitive with her. She was set on divorcing but in the end could not deny her heart even when her head was denying it.
You talk about Universe not letting Ines be together with the artist. Do you honestly think their love would have lasted when she even told the artist she loved her brother more than him, she missed her horse and she missed her brother? Ines was settling not living her best life. What did that love do for her as well? She was still selfish and self-centered. Watch how Carcel’s love transform her into the best version of herself because she wants to give him the best of herself. Her path was always meant to be Carcel who is the only man in this story she can truly be herself with and whom she can be equal with. That’s the whole point of the other two timelines. They prove that Carcel is her perfect match because the other two fell short and those two other men were never her match. They were the wrong path all along while Carcel was the only right path
Lol thanks for everybody’s responses. I think I’ll read it lol
(Also I already knew I was going to root for Carcwl since I saw the spoilers lol. I just didn’t want to go through angst of him constantly cheating or even treating her like shit or her continuously manipulating him more. But if this is the best healing timeline, I’ll read it!(the best timeline might’ve been the first timeline from the spoilers I read but idk lol)
Also, agree about the painter thing. From the spoilers I read, she showed affection for him, but he wasn’t her true love. I think it was just the story trying to spark more jealousy for Carcel, when in reality, Carcel and Inez were meant for each other, since the first timeline. He loved her in all the timelines and even tried to help her the best way he could, even when she chose another man. It just sucks that in this timeline he DOES cheat on her.
If she remembers her first timeline, I think she would feel the same and even more feelings for carcel that she did with the painter. Their love is true and they remain unhappy without the other in every timeline, and it’s just circumstances(fucking Oscar) that keeps them apart.
The author made sure that Ines fell for Carcel before she found out about her first life with him. She didn’t want Ines to be influenced by the first timeline memories. She’s basically showing that Ines cannot help but to love Carcel once she gets to know him and experience him. Ines herself even regrets not paying attention to Carcel in the previous timelines. That’s why she said in ep82 that she wanted to know more about him and read his letters again as though it was her first time reading them because this time she realizes what a treasure he is in her life.
Also, Ines and Carcel are well matched and the author makes sure to show this. Not only do they love and enjoy the same hobbies, even later on, they’re like partners in crime. The two of them left their kids so that they could live for two years on an exotic island and when they returned, both of them were in the doghouse together because their kids saw them as strangers. It was so hilarious how they tried to console each other to cope with the fact that their twins were rejecting them hard. lol
Lol yeah I expected that she would fall in love before the first timeline memories are revealed, but a confirmation makes it super nice! Honestly, they’re really cute together, despite the hiccups and booboos in the beginning lol
Oh, my apologies. From the webtoon, it seemed sentimental, where she only said that it was miserable because they were poor, but she liked him.
I do think it was a bit much to call it "true love" but it showed that during her time with Carcel, she did think about the painter, and Carcel knew she was thinking about someone else.
I think Carcel should suffer, and suffer bad. Can't just fuck multiple women and turn around and say ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ I've realised I love you the whole time. Nah, trash. But with a hot body.
Of course she thinks about the painter. The author said she’s a murderer who cannot forget her guilt for even a moment. She believes she led an innocent man to his death and killed his child and feels extremely guilty about it. Why does she have seizures when she thought he might have remembered her? Do people have seizures and hyperventilate when they think of a past lover? Only Oscar and the painter triggered seizures, memory loss and hyperventilation in her. Not once in any timeline has Carcel caused her seizures and any of those things. He’s always the one protecting her even when she’s with other people.
As to Carcel suffering, dream on. He did absolutely nothing to warrant suffering. Ines doesn’t even care about his life before marriage. So if you’re hoping he will suffer and suffer, you’re reading the wrong story. The author is not some immature thinker. And in case readers don’t get it yet, Carcel can live just fine without Ines’s love. He’s a person who’s happy if she’s happy even if she’s with someone else. That’s because unlike others, his love is genuinely true.
Correction: Author said she’s LIKE a murderer who cannot forget her guilt for even a moment.
So true. But I also like to think that the reason she fell for the painter was because of her first life with carcel ;; like, she didn’t remember it, but the doting nature of the painter might’ve made her soul relate it to carcel. (Cause she mentions how carcel’s doting nature reminded her of the painter once)
Carcel has also suffered from the regret and guilt of his actions, especially after Inez collapsed. He remained loyal, despite getting the go ahead, and he clearly was not going to cheat after marriage. He’s a lot better than the other guys in the story, who think cheating is fine after marriage. He ALSO GETS CONSENT. Like, it’s the bare minimum, but he also goes beyond for her!
Also pretty privilege, cause the man’s handsome as fuck, but idc lol—
She thought about the painter bc she felt guilty for causing him to die so she can only think about good things about him but will nvr show that she didn't live a good life with him. It's from Emiliano's pov that we will get to see that she didn't even live a good life and was having seizures from remembering about Oscar.
Your feelings about Carcel is just stupid. Why should Carcel suffer? Why is he called a trash when he got every right to sleep with whoever he wants. Ines didn't even care to be a good fiancee to him herself, forced him into the engagement and marriage and didn't even try to work it out with him when he did tried. He only gave up after seeing how she kept turning him away. I swear ppl like you would be like if a man forced a woman to engage and marry him but he don't try to treat her good, you'll be happy if the woman sleeps around.
So obvious you don't even know what OP is talking about when OP said Oscar and that's not Carcel. Ines' "true love" is Carcel not Emiliano bc it'll show that they were the ones who really married and were in love in the rl 1st life. She just forgot about him and fell for Oscar in 2nd life, then married him, killed herself. In 3rd life, she ran away with a stranger she just met and marry the stranger. In 4th life, she end up with the person she was always fated with, Carcel. Emiliano would've nvr been her true love bc he can nvr make Ines truly happy. Carcel is the only one who can.
True!! He did actually try to warm up to Inez, but that’s when she shut herself in because of her seizures. Not knowing why, he ended up turning away from her and enlisting in the military/navy
I think ppl just want to conveniently forget about that so they can keep hating him but he tried to be good to her and get close to her. She turned him away. He couldn't get out of the engagement and she couldn't let him get close, so what do you even expect the guy to do?
Kinda harsh and unwarranted.
I was talking about a fictional character. "People like you" why are you insulting me? I am allowed to have opinions that you do not agree with you, but it does not give you the right to talk to people like that and insult them....
Also, Carcel should suffer because he was ENGAGED, and slept with a multitude of women. This harmed Ines' reputation, whether she cared or not, people's dislike for her amplified when it was a rumour that even her own fiance didn't want her. She wouldn't have been as outcasted and as hated by her mother in that timeline, if Carcel kept it in his pants. Doesn't matter if she didn't care, we can clearly see that when she is married to him and people start treating her better, she is much happier.
He also kept delaying the marriage and what not. For what??? Because she didn't act OVERLY in love with him, and she was MENTALLY SICK when he came to visit??? When he found out about her illness, it clicked in his mind that she wasn't "ignoring him" the way he thought she was, she was having SeZIURES, and was secluded. And he feels like scum because of this revelation.
Ines also didn't sleep around when her soon to be was picking up whatever STDS he could find (well I would think so, especially if I had Oscar as a past husband). She also didn't force any engagement, she wanted the engagement to be broken. In fact HE forced her to do a lot of things, that she simply didn't mind or cared for. I mean, if my fiance fled to the military and didn't even have the balls to cancel the engagement (he didn't even try), I would've kicked him in the nutsack. Yeah sure he asks for consent when he has sex, and he's hot, but he spies around in her private life to see if she's having an affair (Hypocritical) and refuses to have a baby with her in the beginning when thats something that she wants and NEEDS to fulfill as the bride.
I do not condone cheating in any way or form. I do condone strong women, and Ines is a strong woman. I do not need some pretty boy who had his fun having flings, (doing something Ines expected him to do, but that made him mad that she wasn't mad, and further drove him crazy) to then be like ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ my wife, my beautiful wife.
Scum, dirt. I swear if he didn't ask for consent for sex, and Ines was more mad and less apathetic, people would hate this character so much more.
Look I don't hate him. He is just hot scum and Ines can have who ever she wants. its PEOPLE LIKE YOUUU that would blame the woman if her man was cheating on her :/
During her seizures??
Also it wasn't Ines' fault that the engagement kept up. It was the families.
She had to be engaged to him otherwise she will be engaged to Oscar.
So yes she used him, but that doesn't give him the right to cheat. He can just hate her.
I’m not sure what this manhwa is portraying because your take is full of misconceptions.
1. Ines herself created her reputation as a crow. Manhwa left all of that out. Her attitude when she attended events showcased this. This was intentionally done on her part partly to keep people away from her and partly as her scheme to keep people thinking Carcel is too good for her so that it creates the psychology in his mind that she’s beneath her and that way he would never fall for her. This was all cut from the manhwa to make Ines more sympathetic but there are small hints in the manhwa nevertheless. This is exactly why Ines was heavily criticized by Korean novel readers in the beginning. It’s not just Carcel who was criticized. The author even wrote that the manhwa is too one-sided in showcasing Carcel’s flaws while hiding Ines’s flaws.
2. It’s a promiscuous society so I’m not sure why you’re talking about Carcel’s reputation influencing her relationship with her mother. Even in prior timelines when Ines had a faithful fiancé, like the crown prince, her relationship with her mother was terrible. During marriage to Carcel in this current timeline, her mother even wrote her a letter telling her it’s shameful how she’s shacked up with her husband in a small house and it’s not for her to warn her husband’s bed. She said it’s for his mistresses to do that. So how much does her mother care about Carcel’s life before marriage.
3. People treat her better when she’s married because she finally started acting friendly with people. What the heck are you saying? It’s like we’re reading different stories. Was Ines friendly to other people before marriage? No. She kept her distance. It’s only when she began to PRETEND to be a good wife and host parties that she began to interact with people in a social way for the first time in this life. Let’s get this straight, she only became happy because she began to change BECAUSE of Carcel. Ines even says in the novel that Carcel is influencing her to think sincerely of people and she was troubled by it until she began to accept that she wanted to live a different life this time. That’s why she’s changing and her brother and her waiting lady and her mother-in-law was so surprised by her changes. In fact the whole of Mendoza was surprised by how much she had changed in a year.
4. Ines also delayed the marriage. Don’t see why you’re blaming only him. She shut him out for four years and when she felt she was getting too old for marriage and implanting her plan, she showed up in front of him like the opportunist she is to remind him that they need to marry so that she can put her plan into action to use him and dump him. May I remind you that’s how she repays someone who helped her and her past lover in the previous timeline. She has utterly no sense of gratitude to the person who kept her alive, her baby alive and her lover alive for a night when the soldiers were looking for them to take her to the capital to be punished for humiliating the imperial family.
5. Unlike you, at least Ines knows she’s the one who chose him and endangered his life since he was a 6 year old. That’s what ep81 just showed. She chose him and never thought of what could happen to him and only recently found out that that innocent child was bullied and almost died because she chose to use his life for her selfish purpose without any regard for him. Also, due to her pointing her finger at him, the empress got involved and bestowed the engagement. That meant as an heir, he could not dance the engagement. What about her? Carcel finds out in the novel, before the married, that Ines could’ve let her father canceled the engagement but she adamantly insisted on keeping it and prevented her father from canceling it? Why? Because she wanted to use Carcel, the man that helped her and her past lover stay in a safe house for the night while the soldiers hunting them. She’s such a good, kind and morally upright person/sarcasm.
6. I’m glad you don’t condone cheating. That means you shouldn’t be putting Ines on a pedestal. After all, she screwed/dubcon a complete stranger in the previous timeline but the manhwa covered it up. Check out ep11. She’s sitting on top of the crying boy with a cold, expressionless face. Why? She was engaged to the crown prince and in a 10 year relationship with him. What does she do? The painters come to paint, she saw the face of the painter looked good, then she proceeded to go to his bedroom late at night naked and dubcon him. Let me remind you that not only was she in a romantic relationship with the crown prince, she was engaged and supposed to marry him in THREE mere months. So please don’t be a hypocrite because if engagement, and not a romantic relationship is all it takes to be considered a cheater, then Ines more than cheated. Not only did she cheat, she screwed a stranger with dubious consent. Poor man cried out when the noble’s daughter and crown prince’s fiancé entered his room, UNINVITED, and naked. When she screwed him and he saw the blood, he panicked and started to cry saying he’s sinned because he took the virginity of the crown prince’s fiancé when he wasn’t even the one at fault. She was. To shut him up, she used her techniques on him. DUBIOUS consent. At least all of Carcel’s sexual relations were completely consensual on all sides. It’s something that neither Oscar or Ines can claim in this story.
It was her fault. Her father wanted to can el the engagement and she insisted on keeping the engagement so that he can use Carcel for her intended purpose.
She didn’t have to be engaged to him. There was Enrique, Dante and Leonardo. Dante would’ve been perfect for her because he supports the imperial family and he already have hidden mistresses all over Mendoza. She could’ve easily gotten a divorce from him.
Just like it didn’t give her the right to cheat on the crown prince in the previous timeline and pull an entirely innocent stranger into her plot to use someone’s life to escape Oscar. How did that turn out? He ended up dead and that’s why she blames herself in this current timeline for DRAGGING a completely innocent man who had absolutely nothing to do with her into her plot to escape crown prince Oscar.
About your ending declarations, basically you’re judging a person solely by their sexual past/experience barring everything else. Let me ask you, has Carcel used and destroyed anyone’s life? Has he led anyone to their death? Has he plotted evil against anyone in his heart? You say he’s scum for having 100% consensual relationships with several women whose lives he didn’t destroy nor negatively impacted in any way. Ines herself said in the novel that Carcel never harmed any of those women. She especially hates when he talks of his past as though atoning for the way he lived because she knows in her heart she was never sincere towards him during their engagement period and she’d actively been plotting to prevent him from falling for her to avoid complicating her end goal.
Despite Ines’s many flaws, I have never once called her a bad name. That’s because I sincerely still like her. I’ve seen others criticize her for causing the death of an innocent man and her child and using a 6 year old child and not once have I seen them call her a bad name. That’s why I don’t buy your claim about not hating Carcel. Not that it matters whether you like him or not because it has no bearing on anything to do with anyone else.
Honestly, from what I read, if Inez wasn’t super hot and carvel didn’t love her and we didn’t know the backstory to her, she would seem like the villain of the story to readers imo. However, we know the context so we know better.
Not to mention, this isn’t like a story where she picked him because she actually loved him. She picked the most convenient person, and just thought in her head “well, we’ll divorce so no harm no foul” when it did change his trajectory in life. All she ever heard about him was from rumors in a past life, and he actually helped her in all her lives. She had no reason to choose him. She didn’t actually love him so she wasn’t hurt by his cheating, and that’s what she wanted.
Of course, you can say that he thought she loved him so it was a scummy thing to do. However, you can see in his flashbacks and when he realizes his love that he’s always thought of her as his future wife, and did try to have a nice relationship with her. However, all he was left with was rejection and in his heart, he knew she didn’t love him, so he did anything to get her attention, even sleeping around. He knew she didn’t have feelings, but because of her manipulation and his own denial over his unrequited love, he deceived himself into believing she did. He even majorly regretted the first time he cheated, but just wanted to get some type of response from inez, other than indifference.
Honestly, at this point, idk if I would even consider it cheating, since they basically were strangers to each other before marriage. (It still is cheating technically, but no actual feelings were hurt, other than carcel’s cause he’s a little stupid booboohead lol)
I’m glad you are objective. I see the flaws of both characters. I sincerely love this story even with two such main characters because the beginning is only 1% of their story. The problem is, people get hung up on that 1% when the story is much, much more interesting than the first 1%.
Another thing is, the truth about Carcel’s character is revealed over the story and Ines is an unreliable narrator about Carcel, her brother and even about her life with the painter. The problem is readers believed everything she said. Only some began to catch on around the time of her dream where she meets Carcel in the palace garden that she’s unreliable as a narrator. Some readers think Carcel had character development. Did Carcel have character development? A big fat ‘No’. All Carcel did is do what he told Ines who would do before they married. He drew the line at marriage where they swear their vows before God. He said even if he has to live like a monk, he doesn’t intend to commit adultery. That’s why Ines got frustrated in the novel and slapped him because he was basically unknowingly declaring he will ruin her plan to get him to cheat.
One thing about Carcel’s character is that he draws very clear lines and even in his vice he acted responsibly. That’s why no one can appear before Ines and start any trouble. All the trouble that lies ahead and endangers her life originates 100% from her past lovers.
YESSSSS just the fact that carvel was so in love with her in all timelines showed that he didn’t need character development. He’s the type to completely treasure his lover and he’s just a little too stupid to realize his own feelings lol
I honestly saw so many people say no to the story just from the first part, so it’s sad that people didn’t read it. (I really only hesitated reading it cause I wasn’t in the right headspace for angst lol but this story is actually healing lol)
Also, I like to also see both of their faults. And, just like how I treat carcel, they both have pretty privilege for me so I love both of them lol—
There are many different levels of scum.
Just because someone performs a greater evil, doesn't mean the other person becomes a saint.
I'll admit that I am wrong
Whatever. Don’t even know why you’re reading a manhwa about someone you say is scum then but it’s none of my business.
Guys let’s just end this discussion here! Honestly, we all made good points in my opinion, and it all depends on your personal opinions about stories! Remember, this is all fictional btw!
I’m personally someone who views cheating as one of the most unforgivable things a ml can commit, so I understand your first look at carcel as the ml. I thought I was going to be like that at first too. However, after reading novel spoilers, I started to give him more leeway. There are much worse cheating mls(abandoned empress—) so the story’s portrayal isn’t actually bad lol.
I think this all stems from personal preference as well as the manhwa’s omission of important character plot points.
Anyway, I feel liked we’re all getting a bit tired at this point, so let’s not bring up this topic anymore and just all agree that everybody has flaws but eh, they’re still hot lol—
And why was he engaged? Who FORCED it on him? If Ines didn't force it on him, he would be a free single man and would ppl like you wouldn't be mad at him sleeping around. Why not ask why Ines don't break the engagement so he can be free?
Clearly you don't know the full story if you think Ines think Carcel would have STDs. She chose to marry him bc she know he didn't have STDs before even with all those rumors. She chose Carcel bc she wanted a playboy and believed the play rumors he had in the past.
I wouldn't even blame the woman if the man cheats on her bc for one thing I don't even consider it cheating when Ines wanted him to sleep around. She chose a playboy bc she needed a man who would sleep around so that when she divorce him she could blame his sleeping around to get money from him after they divorce. She been plotting to divorce him since she was 10 so why would it matter if she sleep around?
You keep saying he don't got the balls to cancel the engagement just show that you don't know jack shit. You even know why they're engaged? It's bc Ines wanted it. She told her father she wanted to marry Carcel at 6 so her father helped arranged that engagement with the empress. The whole engagement was forced on Carcel by the empress bc of Ines being behind it. Carcel and his family can't say no to that. That why Carcel even mention in the beginning of the story that they even got to marry bc Ines had always wanted it. It was bc the whole engagement and marriage could only happen bc Ines wanted it. He didn't want it but he couldn't do anything as long as Ines wanted it. She knew the empress can force Carcel to marry him bc she knew the empress don't want her to marry her son Oscar. She knew the empress still want Ines tho bc she the duke's daughter so the empress would be happy to make Ines marry Carcel, her nephew, instead so the empress can still get Ines' family connection from Carcel. Ines knew all this since she was 6 and it was mentioned in the novel.
Trying to say ppl like me when I know the story more than you. Show your stupidity when you say that Ines didn't force the engagement so who was the little girl in the beginning of the story with the empress behind her pointing her finger at Carcel and who was the little girl in the beginning of the story telling her father that she wanted to marry Carcel and who was the little girl in the beginning of the story asking the lawyer how to get a divorce. You think she'll need a divorce if she's just engaged? You can only divorce after you marry so she been plotting to marry him to divorce him. She been plotting to want a playboy to marry so that the divorce can benefit her.
Carcel been visiting her since he was young, not just when she was sick. He always been trying to visit her. She just turn away all his visits when she was starting to get sick. Clearly you forgot when he was visiting her with Oscar when they were very little.
Yeah and Ines could be a scum too for forcing Carcel to be engaged with him when she had no plan to even be a good partner to him. Relationships are two way. Man and woman got to be good to each other and care for each other for it to work so I don't see why he's the only scum when she kept turning him away while keeping him chained. Even her mother was like the only good thing she ever did was chain Carcel to her. Everyone alrdy know they're still engage bc Ines kept him engaged to her. He didn't want it and she didn't even treat him as an equal so why he got to cling to a woman who don't even want him romantically. She only want him to later marry him to later divorce him. So a woman forcing a man to be engaged with her and marry her isn't scum?
It's clear you hate Carcel. Stop lying.
I only view ppl cheating if there's feeling involve or something both agree on like if Ines had told Carcel she wanted a serious relationship or if she did love him but they both got no feelings for each other. He liked her but got annoyed at being pushed away constantly so he stopped. Woman always saying they want a guy to understand consent and understanding rejection so why is Carcel being called a scum for knowing that. Clearly Ines kept rejecting him even when she kept him tied up so he should be able to go after other ppl.
Ch0: Ines pointing at Carcel in front of the empress
Ch3: Ines telling her dad she wanted to marry Carcel, empress toasting to their engagement
Ch4: Carcel visiting Ines when very little
Ch11: Ines: "You were supposed to be the biggest playboy in the empire, the one who would help me make a clean break from my marriage in this life... You were supposed to be the one. This plan has been in the works for 17 years. It can't all just fall apart like this."
Ch24: Ines thinking about all her plan from since she was 10. Ines: "Outwardly, I am supposed to be behaving like a woman with long-held unrequited feelings for Carcel. I even acted as if I was desperate for this marriage to happen despite the fact that Carcel was opposed. I'm the woman with no pride who married a man in a heartbeat despite how short-notice his proposal was... The plan was always for me to demand that he sleep with me and him to refuse, but I'm sure that's the direction our marriage is ultimately headed in anyway. Carcel will eventually lose interest and any affection he might have for me. And just like that our marriage will end in divorce. Then finally I will be able to obtain true freedom. And with that my true death will be waiting for me... at the end of this life."
Ines at 10 talking about Katia: "She was always so kind that her reputation within the manor was excellent. Because of this, despite the fact that there was clear evidence of her having committed adultery just like her husband, she ended up receiving a more favorable verdict."
If anyone can read, they can see Ines been plotting to marry Carcel and have his kid since she was little. She even told Carcel when they were 6 that they have to have a baby.
Ch3: Ines at 6: "We'll do more than just get married. We have to have a baby together too."
Ch13: Carcel: "This engagement... has only lasted so long because... while Ines may not like me or even have any interest in me, she at least wants me."
Ines' mother to Carcel: "There is one thing Ines managed to do that I actually approved of, and that was putting a chain around your neck and making you hers... back when you were too young to know any better."
Ch17: Carcel: "Duke Valeztena had continued threatening to annul the marriage if there were any hitches at all, but he wouldn't be able to do so as long as Ines wanted to stay in the marriage."
（/TДT)/ I'm being beaten for my crimes against the state
Lol you saw I tried to make your punishment more lenient, but it’s out of my hands now—
Bro, after the spoilers, turns out the title should be “audience, don’t trust either twins” cause wtf is even happening anymore
The only absolute green flag I can see is the ml rn, I don’t even know what happening anymore.
(Also, not me being like “bro stop flirting and get the report from benson! Save the alchemist’s families! Stop flirting!! This is how we got to this misunderstanding rn!”)
Pleasssseeee spoil it
What happened
TLDR Spoiler:
Someone made a more in depth one so just look through the comments:
Turns out that mc had actually self harmed in the past because turns out that ercia was actually the more genius twin. Mc felt inferior so she did self harm so that people would pay attention to her, but she gets really injured and ends up forgetting the event. Ercia then makes the choice of pretending to be sick and not a “genius” so that mc won’t do something like that again. But then she begins to resent her, thinking she took everything from her, despite this being her own plan from the beginning.
Honestly, apparently it’s completely illogical and is supposed to be a “plot twist! Mc was the bad twin all along!” Type thing I think. Anyway, they end up making up apparently and I just lost interest after that. The ml still loved mc after that though(so he really is the only green flag at this point)
Bro, even the mc called out the inane logic of this man
“Im suffering because I killed you and now I hate you for it. So you must die!
Mc literally probably: “dang. That’s wild dude.”
AHHHHH I WAS WAITING FOR HIM TO FULLY SHOW OFF HIS POWER HGFFFFF
Honestly, why do they still think he’s weak??? Like, they know he’s strong, but they keep underestimating him hgfffff
Like, if someone that infuriating existed, how else do you think they’re still alive, despite making enemies wherever they go probably—
We can only see it once the final boss appear, bro is invincible with all these weaklings around him so what's the use of going all out
I know, but I’m so sick of people underestimating him now TT^TT
That's how authors give you cliff hangers. Its the same old op mc trope where everyone underestimates mc
Man, this story is filled with Taeman making the perfect plan but then somebody fucks it up and he has to improvise on the spot, which leads to him getting stabbed XD
Why does this sum everything up
It’s like the author realized they made taeman too meticulous for his plans to mess up, so they just kept getting people to basically crash(figuratively AND literally) into them XD
Holy shit I wasn’t expecting the author’s other works XD like, I’ve read them before but I didn’t realize this was the same author/artist lol—
Riggggghhhttt!!!!! xD
I feel you lmao~ XD
Honestly wasn’t going to read it(since I don’t usually like the playboy uke tropes), but the ivantill comments made me do a double take and I realized what had to be done lol—
OMG I JUST NOTICED THEY DID LOOK ALIKE
The seme even has Ivan’s completely black eyes
Man, imagine getting a yandere lover because of one karaage
GOD!!IM WHEZEEEING AFTER READ THIS
I really wished I wrote “chicken nugget” instead of karaage honestly cause that would’ve been funnier XD
MEANT TO LIKE THIS IS SO FUNNY
Literally TT
Moral of the story don’t be nice to ANYONE
Imagine being that shameless when revealing that you fucking cheated. Like, falling for another person, whatever, shitty move. BUT THEN SAYING THAT YOU GOT THE OTHER WOMAN PREGNANT?? Like, you could’ve saved face by breaking it off early, but the audacity of just outright admitting that you’ve been cheating for god knows how long.
Omg I’m so glad I gave this story a chance. I love it! Love carcel as well, despite the booboos in the beginning
We got a good grovel and regret scene and he cries easily so that’s a win lol—
Carcel has always been the type of person to be regretful and apologize. Spoiler
Just wait until the hidden timeline is revealed and the reader see the awful things Ines tells him and he apologizes. Even present day Ines gets scared of hearing her original self say those things and wonder how she could intentionally hurt him like that. Meanwhile, in those memories he apologizes to her and is concerned about her even when she’s the one clearly in the wrong. It shows he is fundamentally a good person and a much better person than her. Even she objectively knows this
AHHHHH I LOVE THEM