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And yet, you read the whole thing.... ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Then don’t read it..? （￣へ￣）

You're point? Or did you have one?

How do I know to get sick of all the outdoor sex ifr I don't read it? That doesn't make sense

Obviously my point is that you can't be too serious about not wanting to see it if you kept on reading it. Especially the teacher × student bit, since it's in the description ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

Since the beginning their characters were like that.. Doyun has always been the more aggressive and dominant one. I like this. There are too many comics out there with an aggressive seme and a meek uke. This is refreshing. Besides neither of them is "uke-like" in my opinion tbh. Neither of them is weak or a crybaby.

sorry but I've gotta say that's bullshit on Doyun being more aggressive and dominant. total bullshit. Doyun was nowhere near as aggressive and dominant as tough-guy Taehan. Doyun was confused, innocent, and in need of help in season one, and in a serious crisis of first heat. Taehan was massively more dominant, no question. He even came to his scared omega's rescue when doyun first smelled alpha pheromones, and he protected Doyun when the doc and dojun came to Eunso's apartment.
Taehan's boyish grin WAS uke-like, even if none of the rest of his behavior is.
If you disagree, put up a good argument with some examples of what you're referring to. Otherwise Ima eat you alive! ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

Taehan was always more sensible and logic driven. He never really was dominant and like a tough guy (except in bed obvi). Sometimes he snapped at Doyun but can't blame him really. Doyun was the type to burst out in rage/yell and do all that. Also as far as body types go neither of them have a stereo typical uke body type. Also I don't think a guy smiling is uke behavior? Lol semes can't be happy? He just has a more sweet/innocent side. Which I for one enjoy alot more than the type of seme who rapes, and is like God or whatever never getting flustered or showing any kind of emotion cause they're so cool (apparently) it gives Taehan character.

let me just recommend to you to look at our very first picture of Taehan, standing over Doyun, looking tough as hell. No pressure, just a suggestion. It's a very nice picture.
They were both pretty domineering during fights, but Taehan had a tough cold sneer and looked tough like he could tear Doyun's head off any minute. Doyun's look was more matter-of fact like, "fuck you, Taehan, bastard." God, I loved those scenes. haha
Who said anything about uke body types? That one particular grin is uke-like, man! It really is!
Ugh. I can't stand sweet innocent guys. Puke. I hate wimps.
So far we're cool, right? haha LOL

hey, wait. You equate a seme who rapes with a seme who thinks they're god and never gets flustered or shows emotion, and also thinks they're so cool? Did I misunderstand? To me those two types are worlds apart. One is a nasty, leering, violent criminal. The other is just a normal egotistical guy.

I'll ignore the way you're speaking.... Well, Doyun is the one who controlled what direction their relationship took since the beginning. He is the one who shot it down too many times and Taehan couldn't do anything about it and was never too pushy. He is the one who finally decided for them to go out too. Taehan is a very sweet and manly seme from the start. He cried rivers because he hurt Doyun. He was gentle with him for the start. He always helped out Doyun in the beginning even though Doyun was a rude Jerk frankly speaking. And he was very innocently joyful when Doyun decided to move in.
Honestly, since you said sweet guys are wimps I have nothing else to tell you after this. It feels like I'm talking to a child.

Word I agree with you whole heartly I hate the push over uke and over agreesive annoying seme it's nice to see a change yk

It depends on what you want. I meant I don't want a wimpy mate, but for a brother, yeah, sweet, innocent might be nice
To make sure you don't say stuff to me like you'll ignore the way I'm speaking I'd have to fake a level of politeness that would cripple my ability to communicate. The real me is far more aggressive, so I'm really trying all the time to throttle it back. I wish there was a wider range of acceptable human communication. When I'm with other guys, my politeness level is fine. When it's mostly women, like this comment section, I get a lot of disapproval.

but I think it's unrealistic to expect tops to be meek and bottoms to be domineering in RL.

Maybe it's uncommon but they do exist. I'm a meek top right here and there are power bottoms that exist.

I'm not trying to start an argument I just saw that and added an input lol

fair enough, man

I'm sorry, I just so disagree. Doyun was out of control, lashing out or falling apart. I don't call that controlling a relationship's direction. Taehan walked away several times. I wouldn't call it pushy, but I would call it refusing to put up with the shit-storm coming his way from his fractious would-be lover. Taehan was steady in his feelings for Doyun. If that's not controlling the direction of the relationship, I don't know what is. If it were up to Doyun, the direction of the relationship would be in the dumper. Taehan was the one with all the relationship experience. It's one of his power points. He's obviously been in love before.

Also, that's just not true that Doyun made the decision that they should go out. It was Taehan's idea, Taehan who wanted it and aggressively pursued it, and Taehan who finally got his way. Doyun finally got a clue and said, yeah, okay. That was not Doyun deciding how things should go. It was Taehan, because Taehan has the maturity to determine and direct his own love life.

Okay if it's just your personality then I guess I won't take it personally lol.
Well, I think both of them are equally aggressive and manly, but Taehan is on the sweet side. Since the start, Doyun's main feature is that he's nothing like a typical Omega. I like that kind of dynamic. I understand if you're looking for something different though. Possessive, aggressive, macho semes are super common anyway.

Hello, might be too late but I found your comment interesting. Can I hear more about your thoughts? I was also weirded out by the uke's "I only fall for straight men who like women"

"I only fall for straight men who like women" - Self-defeating desires, right? Wanting what you can't have is one thing, but wanting what you can't possibly have ....

I appreciate your wanting to discuss it, you know?
Somehow something doesn't feel right about the gender thing. I have a huge like, ball of perceptions, and messages coming at me all at once from in my head and in my my outer awareness telling me that this is a mess and it's going to get a lot worse. We just aren't ready for it.
I think radical shifts in how we as a world identify sexually is too much to accept all at once. I think our time is better spent solving far more serious problems than whether or not we should remember to call each other by a huge oppressive list of various pronouns. It might literally be more trouble than it's worth. People ignore the disturbing aspects. Sex is a powder keg that has always been kept inside its pandora box - probably for good reason. It's going to be seriously troublesome and estranging in and within the many generations nows walking the planet, more varied age groups than ever before, and each has its own set of cherished and inviolable sets of valued stuff.

What I honestly thought of that statement was the uke's self-denial, what he perceived as normal was only boy x girl. He liked men but denied being "gay" because then, he wouldn't be "normal".

Actually, all these gender identities, sexual orientation, and gender expression serve to provide visibility. I do agree that some people are being too much sometimes, making it more confusing for other people. However, it's on them for going about it in the wrong way. A lot of queer people differ in how they want to express and identify themselves. These pronouns and identities help them express their existence . Once we've arrived in a world where everyone's existence is recognized and is valid, where prejudice is non-existent, the goal in the future is to break these labels.

I'm sure you're right about the uke girl or boy thing.
I certainly hope you're right about the gender identity thing.
- I don't think scientific terms like asexual and gender should be stolen from science.
- I think that visibillity is such a quality thought that I think it exrpresses the hopes of a lot of people.
- I can hope you're right about us all arriving in a world, but I believe that it's too much to hope for because of the following.
What infuriates me to the depths of my existence and makes me hope they all die painful deaths is that they're ignoring the one group of people who most needed, most deserved, and would have been most helped by these changes. To this day I don't see any I up there with that stinking LGBTQ. Because of that, I'm so sick of those stupid initials, lgbtq, that I wish they'd all go die of selfishness.

Today I told a neighbor, an older guy, that in today's world he could decide to be a girl, and everyone would have to call him "she" from then on, with the added benefit of getting to hang around in the women's toilet.
"Where did you get this stuff?" he said.
"Internet," I said.
"Perverts pretending to be girls ain't new," he said.

not really rape, right, raindemon? like if Doyun beats their shit before they start?

An attempted gang rape? Just read some doujinshi for that. Don't involved my bby in your twisted fantasy

Exactly

There's already enough of that in the author's previous work, enough to traumatize almost an entire community of readers. Here, it's so surprising that we have an amazing, EQUAL, from enemies-to-lovers relationship, a gradual development at that, that I'm certain a majority wished this could last without gangrape or rape coming in the way.

I still think he's pregnant but well it's been just a few days so they doesn't know yet

I didn't say I wanted gang rape for christ's sake! I said attempted gang rape. How do people blow right past the essential word in a sentence and go right for the ugliest interpretation? Attempted means that some guys are so attracted to Doyun that they sort of corner him not knowing themselves what they're going to do, then doyun fights them off or just scares them off with his powerful way of talking, and Taehan joins him. We get to see everyone being so so drawn to Doyun in all his glory, and we get to see outraged jealous gorgeous Taehan coming to his gorgeous lover's side, and we get to see how devoted and powerful they are to each other. None of that is anything anyone would have any reason to get all hysterical and traumatized over.
You don't have a story if you don't have a problem. This would be a good problem that would show off Doyun and Taehan and be a good fun read. So you should really pay more attention and not be so reactionary so we can get along. You don't have to look at
things in their worst possible light.

sure, of course.
I'm a little tired of the knee-jerk downvotes, you know?

don't involve ME in your twisted interpretation of a harmless idea.

In my opinion, your HARMLESS idea kinda sucks. This story is finally progressing in a good way and you want some ATTEMPTED gang rape? Even if it's ATTEMPTED, it's still RAPE. This story doesn't need that shit okay. Go read another BL who has that cliche scene. I'm tired of it.

hehehehe im hoping he's pregnant.
Im like those girls in the background going "kyaaa" when the ML arrives (▰˘◡˘▰)
I wanna see their cute little babyyy(≧∀≦)

shut up, jackass

LOL okay. you're entitled to go kyaa ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

attempted rape is not rape

I don't really care about equality. I really like a small cute uke with a big dominant beautiful seme. I just really liked tough-guy Taehan of the first season. and I love doyun, but I wish he wasn't being called hyung and acting all like he's in charge. I know it's not fashionable to feel that way, but I do

It leaves psychological wounds,that take longer to heal than the physical ones,just why in the world would you want our mc to go through something so disgusting and horrifying?? Even if he can defend himself only if he isn't in heat,it's still disturbing. And if he goes into heat it'll be obnoxious and awful,what if Taehan arrives a little late,and they already have groped him? The couple will suffer psychology. So no the fucking thanks.

Taehan arriving late is your idea. not mine, so please take responsibility. I think that if you don't get raped, rape doesn't leave psychological wounds. That seems obvious to me. My scenario is not disgusting or horrifying. In my scenario, he doesn't go into heat. In my scenario, the guys just know they like him. They haven't groped him. Just no, no!
Have you ever been raped? If not, why are you being so reactionary? How do you know how someone else would feel?
So no the fucking thanks, you know?

If you think attempted rape doesn't leave psychological wounds, you don't know what you're talking about. When it happened to me, it took me months to even get out of my house and talk to friends normally. It took everything I had to even open up about it. I felt ashamed and guilt, wondering what I had done wrong, and I wanted nothing more than to block that horrible memory away from my life. Comments like yours, saying that attempted sexual assault doesn't leave scars, shows me why I hate talking to ignorant people. I'm done, good day.

I'm going to show what an anon said on page one after they couldn't find my comment. I hope they don't mind I reposted it:
Anonymous commenter:
"I've been raped, injured, police involved, orders of protection, police advocates, and family cruelty. I've never mentioned this anywhere online before, but I'm fed up.
I've also been sexually harrassed in five of the six jobs I ever held, and it was no small thing like a comment I didn't care for, though that happened, too.
I like yaoi. I don't feel the least bit traumatized by any of the things so many people go completely insane over on these comment sections. I don't feel my ptsd surging up when I read about questionalble consent, rape, or sex seduction scenes.
What bothers me and makes me remember my real life trauma is when someone in a comment section gets this aggressive against someone who is trying to express creativity, who explained what they meant, and who came up with an idea. If it were done right, the OP's idea could be funny, sexy, and fun to read. The OP obviously means no harm and doesn't sound ignorant to me.
What makes me remember all that I went through is when people get snotty and self-righteous and group together to display multiple acts of verbal cruelty towards someone who didn't do anything of any real maliciousness. That's what retraumatizes me. not the suggestion of rape, not the mention of rape or attempted rape, or non-consent because they are stories and ideas and are nothing like my experiences. Don't multiply victimize the OP over having an idea. Just come up with your own ideas and show some collaborative willingness and good will, and I wish people would stop getting so nasty about rape in stories instead of trying to really understand and help real victims' individual pov's."
thank you so much, anonymous. I can't thank you enough.

I think it's you who shouldn't be so defensive. I was explaining why readers were triggered over this particular comment - there was so much rage over the author's previous work; it was rape, rape and rape all the way, that when this title came out, there was surprise and delight at how sweet and normal this couple is. I think the last thing people would want to see is a revisit of the previous mess, hence why some would be triggered over what's a light hearted comment from you. It'll be good if this author stays in this trajectory, because who knows what she would do if she heads to the rape path sigh.

well I agree with that. I admit I got your comment a little mixed up with the one right after it, which was really bitchy. When I read it again, I said, oh, that wasn't so bad. That's why I tried to make a nicer comment to you later.
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No worries. You're just having fun giving your own kinky scenarios, and at the end of the day, we all have the right to comment whatever we want. It's understandable why people get triggered as well - no one wants a repeat of before. Gosh I hope not zzz.

agree agree

You don't have to converse with this dude. She's obviously not open-minded or mature enough to understand why she received backlash and lot of dislikes. Explaining it would be a waste of time

Sigh,how irrational are you? I mean "why are you being reactionary?" were you even thinking before writing this?? But I'll try to be patient *takes a deep breath* let's start with something obvious: humans have empathy and sympathy except if they're suffering from pschopathy or disorders realted to that. Of course I'll never know what an actual victim felt and the insecurities they're carrying in their daily lives but as a human I can sure as fuck feel their pain,cry,yell and try to be there for them. The funny thing about humans is that people hurt people but also people heal people. And rape or even attempted rape is wrong from any perspective no matter the context. Sure everyone is entitled to their own imagination and fantasies but we sometimes forget that our words carry weight, immensely so,sometimes it can even be leathal even though we think that they're just words. So going back to "why are you being so REACTIONARY" because it hurts to know and even imagine that so many people in which the vast majority, if not all,are women have experienced such a horrific and inhumane thing and it kills me inside to imagine JUST IMAGINE HOW THEY MUST FEEL each and every second of their lives and even if they manage to get back to "daily life" or start to feel better again they can never ever forget what happened. So yes,I'm very REACTIONARY, I'll always be on this topic. This topic isn't talked enough,we need more awarenesses on this. We should really change our way of thinking of rape victims as "them" or "those people" they are us,our sisters,mothers,friends,aunts, relatives, acquaintances... we need to let them know that we have their backs,so they don't feel isolated,alone,scared and have the courage to reach out and ask for help.
So as you can see attempted rape can lead to major mental health issues,no matter how "strong" the incident leaves it's mark and huge consequences on the victims life.

first I'm a dude then I'm a she? LOL pick one. When a person is making a good-faith effort to be nice, it's opportunistic to come in behind them and say really nasty things like you just did.

How can you tell in advance that a person near you might attempt to rap you? Are women that much intuitive? please also, how big would attempted rape psychological wounds be? If the person doesn't get raped, and rapist just pass them by on the street, I would think they could not claim victim status? Maybe I am too had-nose about it. since nothing happened it seems like it would be easy to fake it. come home from school and yell, 12 guys have attempted to rape me. Luckily, all of them lost their nerve during football practice! I still report them to police because of their dirty thoughts! I am traumatized. Please buy me new clothes!

that raindemon is a guy. Don't let the fishnet stockings fool you! LOL Maybe not mature, but very open-minded and might enjoy a good backlashing if done proprly. Your right though. He has many dislikes and will tell you all of them, no hesitation. LOL

the more I think about it, the more confusedd. My english teacher gaves nothing but bad grads all the time. No matter how I tried, I could not kill her with words. Itt was not for lack of trying (alone in my room late night with much cussing). I am very bothered too by this attempt rape because I was always fantasizing attempted to rape and cum on her face like a string of pearls in her hair, too. I hated her! but I don't see how me being attempted to rape left psychological wounds. I don't understand.

Miki . . .

sigh. is rape all you think about? You've sure given this attempted rape subject a lot of thought! man, I'm thinking less awareness would be some good therapy for you. No, words can't kill people. no. You need to adopt an extremely narrow interpretation of "words can kill and mame." Narrow! Very narrow! Get the concept narrowed down to a hair's width before you're throwing freedom of speech down the toilet without a second thought! Get the lethal words concept out of your head. It's extremely dangerous to think that way. extremely!
You think there's all this pain and suffering for a rape that never happened? come ON! That should take maybe a week to get past. Not getting raped can't be anything like not getting raped for chrissakes! I don't think women are that weak! Aren't you being a bit condescending? Jesus, do just any of life's ups and downs lead to major mental health issues? No. I don't think so. Mental illness is not that common, and you need to stop thinking it's around every corner - for your own health.
You sound like you've been steeped in an extreme leftist feminist marxist radical stew for your whole life! M A N ! Honestly, I can't believe you're not a woman. Nope. I don't buy it. You've got girl written all over you.

what? You're wealthy enough to stay in your house for months at a time? You didn't go to school or work? You didn't even get the necessary therapy? Instead you stayed inside? Why don't I believe you? You didn't need to go to the police or the doctor? What the hell are you talking about? You had no life before and after, no family? You didn't need to go to the grocery store? Not one single friend or relative to visit or talk to? Sorry, you're either exaggerating or lying, aren't you?

Wow, I'm astanoshid at how you took my words. Yet again a completely baseless respond,I'm amazed at how you can interpret my thinking as narrow. This is amazing,I didn't know stupidity could reach this level. Wow. And mental illness are more common and widely spread then we could ever want. WE NEED MORE AWARENESS ON RAPE to rehabilitate the victims, educate our population and to prevent it.And no you can't walk it off!! Just because you pretend it's ok doesn't make it ok.It's not weak to have a mental illness,that way of thinking is the definition of narrowness. It's called PTSD not weakness,get that out of your head. And we nevagate this world through WORDS,and they CAN be leathal,ever heard of pyschplogical abuse? Yeah that CAN be leathal. Being mindful of our words doesn't take our freedom of speech away.Rape and psychological abuse happens everyday somewhere, in your and my hometown,the state or province you live in, your country and your Continent.Stop saying it like I'm exaggerating,you sound so damn narrow, how you worded your respond is exactly why we need more awarenesses on this matter and on mental health. Don't label me,where the fuck did that freedom of speech go now? And maturity is shown through ones behavior, actions and words. Me being a girl or a woman is none of your concern, and I think anyone who reads this thread will know for sure who's being immature and who's showing maturity. Maturity is the ability to actually think before speaking,to listen and comprehend,to organize your thoughts,to be mindful,to respect and to have a wide perspective. With what you wrote it's clear as water how mature you are. As Kant said "sapere Aude" meaning dare to think. So no, me being rational won't harm me,or anyone around me,but too much irrationality and ignorance will do damage everywhere. So I invite you to think before speaking,it reduses stupidity and ignorance to almost 80% and the remaining 20% depends on how critical thinker, knowledgeable,good listener you are. But you have to apply the 80/20 rule to this percentage.

I can dismiss a lot of what you say based on you calling me stupid. We might need more awareness on rape, but that's not the same as needing more awareness on attempted rape. I didn't say you could just walk off rape, but attempted rape shouldn't be that traumatic. No, psychological abuse can't be lethal. It's consequences can, but that's not the same thing. I'm a free speech absolutist. Words are certainly not worse than physical abuse. You know why? Because abuse victims always suffer verbal abuse alongside the physical abuse. The crowd being on your side does not make you mature. I did not say that PTSD was weak. You're twisting my words. That's called bad faith.
Freedom of speech means both good words and bad. That means I can label you without you having a right to use force to silence me. Ignorance does not do damage unless people fail to be tolerant enough to educate their fellow man. Stupidity is not the same as ignorance. I seriously doubt those percentages are accurate or your premise quantifiable.
Immanuel Kant also said, "truth is the child of time."
It's not what you think, it's how long you've been thinking it, which is the product of maturity, which is the product of time, whose end is wisdom.

Raindemon so eloquent

Another damn thing. Mental illness certainly is a weakness. It's tragic, unfair, and there's nothing good about it.
-Psychological abuse is not the same thing as inciting to riot or inciting to violence, and it's covered under freedom of speech If not, I can claim you're psychologically abusing me and have you arrested. Do you want that? Then don't talk so inclusively about your precious rights. Freedom of speech does not include any righteous dispensations, and one person's abuse is not the same as another's, so no, you don't get to claim psychological abuse as being against freedom of speech. A person can walk away from it.
PTSD is a condition or a mental health issue, not a mental illness.
-Requiring people to be mindful of their words is against the law. You didn't say it, but it sounds like what you're saying. I hope not.
-You have to be older to be mature. The beginning of maturity comes sometime around age 23.
You and I both are free to label people all we want. That's not a freedom of speech issue unless you try to take away someone's freedom to do it. So I invite you to think before speaking, and condescension is not attractive.

ok, true but thats sorta out of the blue????

yeah, sorry. I was mad because someone blocked someone, and it hurt their feelings (not me, obviously. I get blocked for fun LOL)

oki lol

Shut up