that was sweet
but please dear god in heaven, don't let 'wholesome' come into the world again. It sounds like Jack Lalane and Rainbow Bread - the GI generation's favorite word.
in my life what I know is that most people are very nice. If you stay within your own your age range, you're going to be okay most of the time. It's the older guys who try to chase after young women who are the ones who are going to be trying weird shit. I'd stay the hell away from them.
you have GOTTA BE KIDDING ME? Furuya - Boredom itself is back pitching and getting everyone worshipping and licking his butt? and for a billion chapters again???? I hate this so much. I'm starting to hate the author and just skim the manga. Worst of all, Terrajagoff has eliminated all of Miyuki's personality. All he does now is narrate the plays. No excitement. nothing. so disappointing. my fave manga is such shit now
Tired of all the ragging about how uke's should be all butch instead of acting like uke''s. I like sweet and innocent vs strong and dominant. Why is every single person saying how uke's should change and be exactly like semes?
Taehan was mega butch at first. That first pic of him was tough and hot as hell. Doyun was ignorant and there's innocence in that. Their dynamic was perfect. Now....not so much
Doc's not a rapist. Let me just rub all of your noses in that LOL
In reality? Yes he is...it’s fiction so I guess we can ignore that? But please never have sex with someone who is intoxicated, as under most laws they are not giving consent and you would be seen a rapist. I know the webtoon in fiction is not making a big deal out of it, but it is a big deal in real life. Please be informed for real life
As for my opinion that doc his not bad uy or asshole person at all and they become a couple later on as the story progress is it just me or???
no, i also don't think he's a bad person. I'm just saying one of his actions is legally/morally wrong in a real life setting. It's just in real life if I hear a guy had sex with my friend who was drunk, I'm gonna think its bad. But I guess i can see the doc's intentions weren't very malicious.
Yeah. people are saying "drunk." but Doc and Dojun were drinking together. It's highly unlikely that one had more than the other. Social drinking doesn't work like that.
In fiction, yeah, but in real life, "Don't drink with someone who is drunk" is oversimplifying it to the point of absurdity.
finally someone who is making sense.
Just as Elizabeth became strong and beautiful, she turned on Our Ciel.
She was already strong and beautiful since the beginning
that's bullshit. And not cuuuuute! She had giant pigtails and a loud, whiny voice, and she was a crybaby and a bully.
Dude did you even read the manga at all ??? She was like that just one time at the beginning of the manga. She still has pig tails. She wasn't really ever a cry baby either. You clearly need to re read if that's what you think :/
In terms of the Elizabeth art, she changed dramatically with the Campagnia arc where she's in full color with the beautiful, Cher see-through dress complete with little boobies now. She has a prettier face, turned up nose, and long eyelashes. Now, too, she's a master swordsman. Those changes in the art as well as the character are radical.
In her pre-Campagnia existence, she literally attacks Ciel every time she greets him. One time she swung him round and round like a centrifuge. It was violent but funny. She's hysterical over the wing of the mansion mey rin, bard, and finnie destroyed so she must waste Ciel's day with the taylor and new clothes for Ciel and herself. She comes to the Phantomhive mansion uninvited when Ciel isn't home at least three times. She takes over, decorates, throws her weight around with the servants, and acts like a spoiled brat. She throws huge tantrums. She's pissed off when Ciel won't eat the cake she got for him. When he refuses to wear the ring she bought, she destroys his priceless, head of household heirloom ring. In the anime, she almost drowns Ciel, but that was second season so it doesn't count. In the Campagnia Arc, she refuses to take off her frock so she doesn't drown, pitching a fit and endangering both Ciel and her life. Next to Elizabeth, Mei Rin looks like Saint Joan of Arc.
I didn't look back at the manga for any of this (couldn't be bothered). It's all from memory.
come on, kuro. I obviously read the manga. I read the damned manga when it first came out. It was really short back then. I waited years. I read it this year in January. Since then I've read it twice and I go back now and read various parts I like. I'm still very much involved with my Kuroshitsuji obsession. I'm not new to this manga, and I'm tired of being accused of that. I'm probably one of its first readers.
Of course I've seen the anime. The first season of the anime, book of murder, circus, and atlantic follow the manga pretty closely.
How bout you? Share your boring history of how many times you've read the manga etc. Your turn, kuro, come at me, dude.
You really think I'll read all that ? Smh
omg perfed uncle answer. LOL thank you!
You guys don't want anyone to cry, be nervous, get a little drunk, have sex without saying "mother may I?" Really? and anyone who has a little kitten fun with someone you consider baby-weak is a sadist? Dojun isn't weak, shy, easily hurt, tender, gentle, insecure, or soft. Do you want him to be? That's weird.
Next you'll want his diapers changed. wtf? that's weird and perverted.
lol dude what's wrong with you? proudly saying how rape should be permitted because the victim is adult. do in real life you go around drinking with your friends and then force them to fuck? eww lol
Can we get a working definition of "sadist?" It's a real question and I promise I won't come down on anyone for answering. I see a lot of people saying it, so there must be a definition agreed up - even if it's just a general slang definition - I just want to know what people are meaning when they say it.
Someone who enjoys seeing someone else in pain or seeing them humiliated..oft times sadists are the ones doing the tormenting
I get you, afroluv. voice of reason.
thank you
they get pleasure from hurting/humiliating other people. it doesn't necessarily have to be related to sex, though. it's okay to be sadist if you have consent from the other party. some people are pissed about this since dojun was unable to give his consent properly and the sex scene can technically can be labeled as rape, and others just find this to be hot as hell
thank you very much for giving a good, well thought out answer. much appreciated.
I have known people, conscientious practitioners of sado masochism, who are hurt or very angry over the definition most people give to this word. I've been there and listened to their feelings of how the world so casually abuses these terms.
If I hear "sadist" used casually too many times as has happened here, I have a hard time with it since I've known these people, liked and respected them, and was even a little in awe of the way they handled their partners and made healthy partnerships/marriages that endured over time. They don't hurt their partners for the fun of it. - On a side note I would advise against saying something like "it's okay as long as it's consensual" to one of these people
At the same time, I know that this word is used freely to refer to something people consider to be a bad trait, and I don't feel it necessary to be pissed off over it unless it crosses a certain line. For example, if someone says, "all sadists should be behind bars" I'm probably going to speak up.
I just wanted to make sure we had at least two good definitions, so thank you to those who answered
I'm just thankful they finally put on some clothes.