it took all stereotypical tropes and mashed them into one story hoping it’d flow, but it doesn’t . there’s no buildup between the love interests, it’s sex and maybe some sprinkle of deep conversations out of nowhere. then the lack of foreplay and lube has me cringing, at least make it somewhat realistic but they were hitting it raw and dry from day one??
there was too much unexplained information. no background for why the mom died, we only knew WHO did it. then heeso running away?? like he wasn’t just in a sky rise building in an affluent neighborhood??
and then tae letting haesoo get away with stabbing him since tae’s “mom” killed the teacher… but what makes it worse is the “mom” survived from cancer and made her legacy even bigger like BRUH. and haesoo doesn’t even know the full story and thinks tae orchestrated it with the actual murderers
They’re probably going to explain things better on season 2
they better!! im critical because the season finale still left so many things open, in ways that didn’t make sense. it was so quick to move on and say bye see you in the next part
let me explain first. im not blaming dan himself but the author for not knowing how to write insecure or “weak” people. he was raised on love with his grandma and was harassed by loan sharks but it doesn’t reflect in his own behaviors or character and it makes me a bit frustrated reading?
rather than showing he is capable of complex feelings the author only shows him in this constant state of wallowing or giving the worst person so much grace in any given situation. he should be capable of anger and pain, not always forgiving. people don’t act behave that way in reality. his upbringing with his grandma is important, specifically because he has a secure attachment with her but can’t apply this same experience to jae. if the writer was going to make dan like this, an insecure attachment background makes much more sense to why he clings onto any thread of kindness. he’s written in such a flat way and always reverts back to blaming himself and isn’t able to identify any of jae’s meanness for what it is when he has first hand experience with unconditional love and kindness… the best portrayal of familial and financial trauma ive seen is “waterside night” not whatever this is
before someone comes at me all mad, remember he’s fictional and you can share your thoughts nicely…
if you want to do a sub and dom dynamic with your partner, have a discussion before sex about the scene rather than causing genuine problems and lying. it requires a lot of trust and intimacy to get this vulnerable and forcing it is unhealthy/damaging for yall. you’ll meet your person or people to put your faith in, and always prioritize safety. have a great night everyone
THIS!!!! i liked this because of how complex and flawed they are as characters but as it progressed especially in the side stories, all i see is selfishness. And I want to believe that the author knows what they are doing, maybe they can explain that the hyung's actions are a result of being in a toxic unrequited relationship---because i can clearly see how their (ukexseme) earlier relationship and everything that happened affected the seme. But I'm not getting my hopes up, because more often than not, everything that happened is just a plot device to draw sex scenes.
Maybe I'll reread it someday when it's complete and I'll arrive at a different conclusion
exactly bruh. i thought they were learning how miscommunication or abandonment hurts them both, so to see them think they’ll get closure by rough, demeaning sex is alarming. but i hope so too, it would make sense for the hyung since he had such an unhealthy relationship before with his fwb… but i doubt the side stories will give even more context to his thought process due to that trauma. it seemed like they were maturing together so the regression is sad to see especially when it was over such a minor thing (the hyung craving dynamic sex and to see a different side of bf)
let’s hope it gets better
beautiful cocks my kings, let’s do therapy and bdsm lessons next mkay?
IM CRYING LMFAOOO “beautiful cocks my kings”,, I’m gonna use that now
this grown ass man gained a conscious when he was a child seeing yuki get bullied and thought YEP let me make her experience with deafness even more unfortunate and rough!!! i will NOT be there for you but let me “shield” and be an asshole to you, my love!
i admire the depth of his love and know its real but yuki deserved kindness and compassion all these years (and so do all of you). i feel bad for him because his heartbreak, but maybe don’t treat your crush awful lol? cry me a river, i want to see an apology not a confession!!
i really hope there’s side stories on their normal life in the america. their reunion was familiar and comfortable, but i wished for some dramatics like tears or a burst of affection. i got closure knowing they reunited, but it’s still unsatisfying not seeing the short, happy times together
another small, pale skin, dainty, tiny, twink bottom who looks like a girl. and he’s a head or more below every other males height!! it’s so overdone bruh, why do patriarchal stereotypes have to carry on to bl too?
small gay men exist but the accumulation of all these things and knowing koreas beauty standard makes his design more insidious to me. and yes, it is this deep
I agree with you, this is why I refuse to read anything no matter how good it might be if uke is thinner than my arm, at this point they should just make straight smut cause obviously they think bottoming is feminine thing or something
Agree Sometimes it gets to point where the size difference and features almost look like that of a child and an adult, as if the artist is a pedo and fulfills their fantasy through their manhwa.
to both people who replied i need to kiss yall you completely get it! making the bottoms almost childlike (tiny and delicate features) and fair skinned is strange and has got to stop. it reinforces nasty stereotypes about people who “take” vs the people who put it in. it’s strange to impose traditional woman and male roles onto fictional gay relationships, it’s tiring enough irl as it is!!
omg i agreeeee. can anyone reccomend manhwas that isnt like this but something like shutline
I feel this in my soul. I'm so sick of the tiny, skinny, under-age looking bottoms. It's been a problem for a while, ya'll.
Yass
1. I'll be here for you
2. Off track
3. Wet sand (BEST)
4. The pizza delivery man and the gold palace
5. Our sunny days (CUTEST)
6. Roses and champagne (FAV)
7. Smyrna and capri
8. Rivalry
9. Under the green light (BEST)
he’s plotting… the eunuchs not going to place a bounty on the dragon, he’s going after tae im SCARED
all this because tae wants freedom? when will his life be his
why are you villainizing mc more than the people in his life? yall are forgetting heeseo literally raped tae and threatened to kill himself if tae tried to separate them… on top of that he only discovered his mom participated in his teacher’s death RECENTLY and was going to let cancer be her karma. he’s not innocent or angelic at all but it’s hella uncomfortable that yall don’t see he’s a victim of his circumstances and are reaching to put all the blame on him…
tae was doing his best, but has been blindsided by the institutions and people he trusted. his own adoptive mom failed him, heeseo’s adoptive parents failed them, and the justice system has BEEN failing them all but he’s trying so hard to fix problems that aren’t even his. the lack of empathy for him has me questioning if yall truly read with your eyes or brain when all he’s done is try to fix the people around him. his methods aren’t perfect, but the attempts to make him seem as crazy as heeseo or the adoptive mom are stupid asf
Reality
This isn't actually true, it's clear from his flashbacks in chp 48 that he knew from the beginning that his mother was the killer. He then deluded himself into thinking he was wrong because he didn't want to mess up the comfortable position he was in. And then he started giving money to Heeseo's orphanage out of guilt for not reporting her to the police back then.
i said he found out recently because he barely confirmed it after finding proof all these years. knowing a car drove off is not enough evidence because witness testimony isn’t reliable. even if he reported the mom, she has more connections to powerful people and hell- is a powerful person herself. and rather than “knowing from the beginning” i took it as he had a feeling all these years but the answer wasn’t clear yet. so he worked hard his whole life (becoming a lawyer, finding evidence, taking care of heeseo) to actually prove himself wrong about what he saw. and uh there’s more behind why he deluded himself other than comfort
That’s because of most of Bl readers are not welcoming or forgiving to bottoms who are kinda complex character or makes choices which are not angelic. They only find it sympathetic if bottom is a little sweet angel or purely innocent while most problematic Tops got free pass if they insert childhood trauma lol
Damn it!!! He’s like a teenager in Highschool back then. And he’s just doubting about it. There’s no real evidence since then. That’s why he drove to the crime scene or go to the church to get more information (he had been searching for it so long)….and he actually doesn’t need to be taken accountability to support Heeseo. He’s not even the person who killed his mom tho
tru!! he’s made difficult choices but people are so quick to put all the blame on him as if his situation is not also complicated. im still stuck on how heeseo used himself as a threat, and forced tae to be in a relationship with him?? how is he supposed to be a “responsible adult” when he’d attempt to kill himself if tae reported heeseos behavior??
then tae tried to separate the both of them in the end to pay for his MOMS crimes, and imo he should’ve reported her but by the time the trial would’ve taken place she was gonna die!! trials don’t happen within weeks, and with cold cases it takes 1-2 years before it begins. and SO TRUE it doesn’t matter what the top does because apparently only their childhood trauma excuses their serial rapist and insane behaviors
Expect unstable behaviors from unstable peoples.
Just bcs people dislike taekyung doesn't mean they justified heeso's wrong doing, girlie. They can feel disappointed about a certain characterization and it's definitely fine. It's a fictional story after all.
girlie im obviously NOT talking about normal disappointment and people rightfully criticizing tae. i saw comments talking about how tae deserved what heeseo did to him, how he should face karma on the same level as his mom/heeseo, and that he’s just as insane as them both. then i made this post to remind people he’s still a victim in this whole situation
no duh it’s a fictional ??? defending a character doesn’t mean i feel personally offended im reminding people of key details because the mischaracterization was horrible
if u saw that certain comment, then maybe just reply to them directly? dear girlie. cz u sound like u are generalizing thing there. just bcs one person said it doesn't mean everyone agreed.
To be fair , the original topic owner is her so you are the one who’s replying on her cmt
You kinda slow at reading comprehension ig, but what I meant is if they found those people here who despise on taekyung on some post then just straight up reply it instead of write new post about things people would dissagre like these uke savior defender wannabe. look at the thumbs down. anyway, I'm not gonna continuing this topic.