I am in love with vampires! And the vampire in this one is Hot AF! Hope this dens't end in tragedy! (〜￣△￣)〜...The uke is just my type and so is the seme. Cold but still saves the uke! (▰˘◡˘▰)
Takanari is Hot af!!! Where can I get me one like him? Tie me up, keep me from anyone else that might want me, sex me up till I can't see straight and be forceful! (▰˘◡˘▰)
Maya is HOT AF!!! King Seme! He is truly smoking Hot! I love him all the way! I am also happy they discussed the not so nice first encounter between Nemu and Maya.
It took 15 chapters, stabbings, shootings, near death experiences for them to finally get it together!
Lucaon!!! ┗( T﹏T )┛ My King Seme was hurt by Kyon! Either it was fear or someone controlling him by the insignia!!! ╥﹏╥ Sh*t is going south and they were already having some unspoken issues too!...Seriously though, one of my complaints is this manga keeps jumping randomly along the stoty that don't connect well. I'm lost to how this even happened. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
I am betting fear and gut reaction to said fear.
Sigh...I'm hoping it is control cause he felt something coming from the back of his neck...If it's fear, Lucaon will think he fears him. That will lead to some serious additional issues. When you lose trust, relationships die. Lucaon will assume the worse even if it was just a reflex to his surroundings. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Well, when I say fear, I am not meaning in that regard. I am meaning, he knows there is danger and is auto reacting to defend himself. So, yes, I worded it incorrectly, but I was basically thinking that. I don't think Lucaon will react poorly to it though. I think it will make him oddly glad that Kyon can defend himself and is not acting as a weakling that can't even take care of himself. It means he won't have to worry as much about Kyon getting hurt.
Oh no, I understood what you meant...I still think Lucaon will take it the wrong way. He has too many hang-ups. I rather he take the way you referenced it. And how ironic he cuts him where you can see the Zero in him...(￣∇￣")
Maybe that will end up a good thing. Like a cleansing of his soul eventually. Though I doubt it will be good in the short term. Thinking more long term.
Eventually Kyon will help cleanse my poor baby of his inner "demons". (▰˘◡˘▰) It will be a long painful process, well it has been so far...
Exactly!
Didn't like any of the stories...and Natsume from first story is a dick! Asahi just went through hell while he slept with all the strays from the whole city! (︶︿︶)＝凸 No resolution and it just felt empty. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Yea all the dudes relationships pretty much fell apart. So he dint want that for Asahi so he decided to simply be family with him cause it would tie them together forever. But then shit happens and we cry. Then at the end he realizes that his perfect family can come to an end when there's a third person involved. That's why he said sorry to the other dude. Cause he can't be with him cause he loves Asahi.
...this had the potential to be really great. Character development is always a good idea...but this story had poor execution and felt choppy at times. The sex scene should have had emotional build up in it not just leading up to it. Like Sugura seemed desperate and rushing to get it together because he was frustrated and ready to walk from a confusing ass Tatsuya that the sex scene ended looking "rapey" to people. It didn't come off like that to me but I can see why. That shit hurts like a mofo! I would have rather have him a bit clumsy because of his desperation...Tatsuya pissed me the fxxx off the whole time. Wishy washy and he should be happy someone loved his story so much and resonated with it so much, that he would want to act it out. That puzzled me and when Sugura kicked him out I was like YES! I also didn't understand his family problem since they seem to love him even though he's adopted.
Opps it Suruga Not Sugura. ^^' Lol
For the record...I don't hate the seme one bit. And I find the hypocrisy amusing. Ukes get a free pass when they sleep with tom, dick, and harry, and look for sugar daddy's...but let a seme not be so clean cut, a bit rough, and BAM! It's time for a hanging. Lol I mean this is nothing new. You know what would have been new or refreshing, the uke having some balls and saying no! Got tell my dad! See if I care! He didn't have to give in to blackmail and let the fine ass seme fuck him seven days from Sunday! x) He had choices and instead he chose to betray his lover and himself. ╮(￣▽￣)╭ The uke is fine as fuck too! ;) Btw...it wasn't "rape" since the uke did go along and also told him he would keep him satisfied.
Coerced sex IS rape.............
Not unless the other person is fine with it in the end... Which is how I read this situation
Thank you!
You must not understand the definition of coerced... "Coercion /koʊˈɜːrʃən/ is the practice of forcing another party to act in an involuntary manner by use of intimidation or threats or some other form of pressure or force.[1] It involves a set of various types of forceful actions that violate the free will of an individual to induce a desired response." "These actions may include, but are not limited to: extortion, blackmail, torture, threats to induce favors, or even sexual assault. In law, coercion is codified as a duress crime. Such actions are used as leverage, to force the victim to act in a way contrary to their own interests."
Super long but yes, it's rape. And stop making excuses.
Coercion is NOT rape, because rape would mean that he had no CHOICE or SAY in whether he wanted have sex or not, which is NOT the case. The victim DID have a choice AND the opportunity to say no. The blackmail part does not come into this matter, as it only serves to be "persuade" the uke into agreeing, WHICH IS STILL AGREEING.
(Google Definition: the action or practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.)
Nevertheless, both cases are terrible situations to be in, and both should be illegal (thank god they are). We are not supporting it by disagreeing with your statement, we are simply accusing the seme for the right reasons.
Do you get the difference now?
don't waste your breath on this bullheaded dumbass. it's people like them that go around victim blaming rather than seeing something for what it is. let them stick with their logic
In real life, coerced agreement for sex is rape. Period. Legally, morally and physically. It doesn't matter if the coercion comes in the form of blackmail, psychological pressure, improper use of power ("If you don't get on your knees and give me a blowjob right now, I'm failing you in this class"), wartime crimes against humanity, slavery, or holding people or pets hostage, it is still coercion and still rape.
I agree that they are being a bullheaded dumbass. You are right, I probably won't convince them, but but I disagree that I shouldn't speak up. Letting ignorance be and not saying anything provides the opportunity for their lies to spread to someone who legitimately doesn't know the truth.
First of all, I never said coercion isn't rape..."bullheaded dumbass", sounds like you for assuming. Just because in this particular case (story) I don't see him as a complete victim doesn't mean I don't know the different kinds of rape. I just don't see the "victim" HERE, so much of a victim. That is my opinion. You have yours. Do you know that proving "rape" isn't so clean cut? This isn't real life either...cause how many "victims" in real life fall for their rapists?...Not that it doesn't happen, cause in some cases it does....The point is you have your opinion on the uke and I have mine. "it wasn't "rape" since the uke did go along and also told him he would keep him satisfied". The ending of that statement is why I said what I said...plus it helps that I saw the next chappie...
OMG! Just stop it. He only had sex with him because he was being blckmailed. That's coerced rape. His acknowledgment that the blackmail will continue is not a statement that removes the problem. He just knows that he has to keep having sex with the rapist unless he wants his secret to get out. Blackmail is never a one time thing. You should know that. I'm done with you and this conversation.
Awesome, next time just breeze on by a comment you don't agree with, this is for grown folks...Bye bye ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~...Besides you can't be done with something that didn't involve you in the first place...annyeong!
General Comment: Can I first make it clear that I'm not victim shaming. I just said that if you're gonna accuse someone of their crime, make sure their actions fully adhere to it.
Comment to I Thot You Was a Toad: Thank you for explaining the real life situation. According to the definition, I did not make that out [as explained earlier], and used my personal judgement. But hey, society is a lot harsher in classification than me, and I can't do anything about that.
Still, I feel like they shouldn't be considered the same thing at all, because the situations are still pretty different. They should be considered two separate crimes, honestly. But that doesn't mean to say that one should have lesser charges than the other. I can't really say what's worse, but they are different situations to be in, and I stand by the fact that they shouldn't be the same fcking thing
Comment to @Seashell : Wtf man, I'm not saying it's NOT a crime, I'm just saying it isn't rape, and it's a different, (but still disgusting) act. Y'all acting triggered as if we just supported rape or something. Read the main point I'm talking about, and we can reach a nice, progressive, discussion.
We're dumbasses because we have independent thoughts and don't swallow all dribble...
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something u want to say...?
No.
No resolution whatsoever! I mean their relationship is unhealthy as fxxx! And the "uke" is...I understand not all stories have happy endings but this one had no conclusion. Both parties involved are screwed up in the head and tbh should not be together at all. They are toxic for each other...the black haired "uke" guy is a big time hypocrite. I mean making the other kiss him in public and telling him to discard his parents but won't face his own parents with the truth. （￣へ￣）
Well that's why this is so realistic. I mean a fictional story will end just like the last chapter and that alone can be considered as a happy ending but in reality there are many things that they have to face even more after they got together
I get what you are saying and I agree. Tbh I would prefer an "unhappy" ending because with these two characters, that would be realistic too. I just don't like the lack of anything happening. I can only speak for myself but I like to have clear cut endings in my stories, whether good or bad. ╮(￣▽￣)╭ My conclusion is that their relationship will fall apart. Their union is unhealthy and kind of looks forced. Like their together because there is no going back, kind of feel.
Didn't finish it. First I felt like the roles should have been reversed and second, how can you sleep through sex like that?!
You've heard of girls getting raped while being passed out drunk, right? It happens, unfortunately.
Agreed I dislike clichéd ukes and semes