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he sorta did. he calls him cute, says the reasons he liked him during the second time. he holds him, helped him. i guess it's just a different way of affection

Well I agree but it's like this in Korean, toi aren't popular if you're fat but loved if you are thin and pretty

They are strict in term of beauty

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They apparently "didnt" know about how bad the abuse was... I still call bs but what cha gonna do

Believe it or not abused victims are the best at hiding just how much they are being abused. They lie, they cover the evidence, make excuses, and so on. They also isolate themselves because they believe no one will help them or believe them even if they show proof. Or they dear those they tell could become abusers or part of the abuse as well. This is what goes on in their minds. She isolated herself, and pushed them away, and made them dislike her, all while hoping they would notice. When they didn't she probably thought she was better off dead and only succeed the last time. At the same time her family is shit, they abused her just as much. They mentally and emotionally degraded her, never paid attention to her, and in the end added to her overwhelming wish to die, so they are not blameless by any means and I hope they pay for it as well. I hope she drags them along until they can't live with out her then tosses them off a cliff. That's what I hope.

I want to vote ur comment so much..this is GOLD..i agree with you..the abuser absolutely had mentally hurt her...very badly...omg..i feel so hurt ╥﹏╥

Thank you. Slot of people over look the invisible abuses such as mental and emotional, and only look for physical. Physical abuse is easier to hide, most of the time, and will heal, the others aren't and cause lasting damage. Still it's always the victim that suffers the most because they always feel alone even if they don't show it. Which is why I can't stand her family. They added to her abuse, and turned a blind eye to her, then acted surprised when it came to light. They acted like they were the victims, and still the only reason they are being nice is because they have a use for her.

*A lot of people


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They knew she tried to kill herself multiple times tho?? they addressed it? and then were basically like "wow she's so weak" so the whole didn't know how bad it was thing doesn't sit right with me

Exactly

I don't think that they meant it that way, maybe it's because it's his brother?

oh no they definitely meant it that way. "the prince who was locked up in chains could not resist" they were talking about his tragic story and how his dad locked him up so tightly he couldnt commit suicide and his homosexual brother raped him. It was chapter 19 or something

how's that homophobic?

exactly. its tragic

because it directly implied that due to his being gay he didnt hesitate to touch his chained up brother???

That means he touched everyone who was in his preference, including his brother who was not in a situation to resist.

Rapists can be gay and still commit rape, consent is the variable here

and how is that homophobic?? the novel isn't implying (AT ALL) that all gay people will do things like that.

that... is exactly what it's implying. they didnt say the prince famous for rape didnt hesitate to touch his brother, they said the prince, was famous for being gay, and in DIRECT connection to that statement, due to his being gay, he would not hesitate to touch his brother. which means that the reasoning given for why the prince raped his brother, is because he was gay. nobody says "the prince who was famous for being straight, did not hesitate to touch his sister" because it makes no fucking sense. you being straight does not equal you raping your sibling of the opposite sex. how are yall unable to see this???

I can see how you would think its homophobic, and how others think it isn't. I honestly dont know if it is or it isn't. Tho I do feel like it might be because as u said "the prince who was famous for being straight, did not hesitate to touch his sister" makes no sense if they were to use it like that. So the same could be said about the gay part. But like.. what exactly did u mean when u said "you being straight does not equal you raping your sibling of the opposite sex" ? Cuz that's kind of confusing me

what i meant was "Being straight does not mean you would rape your sibling just because they are the opposite sex." kinda confusing. I guess I get how someone might think it was just weird wording and not homophobic but idk. doesn't sit right with me.

while I agree that "the prince, who was famous for being straight, did not hesitate his sister" doesn't make sense,

wait, no, i think i understand how the manga's homophobic now
i thought you were talking about something else, like the specific syntax of the sentence
but no, i get it

the manga portrays LGBTQ+ as something foreign/strange/"special" which is homophobic

I see where your coming from now, and now it does seem homophobic. I'm not sure whether the author did by accident or not, but they'll probably get some backlash from that on official sites that you can read it on. Anyways thxs for clarifying it!

Not allowing rape and incest is not homophobic.

and here we have the most confusing comment so far

It would seem that in those times men were presumed to be straight unless they claim to be other wise.This just shows an evil character who raped his brother,It's not uncommon for royalty to abuse their power to obtain countless women and in this case since he was gay he must have used these means to get men to sleep with himwhich is what made him famous as a homosexual.The way I read it,it was stated as a matter of fact. It is just a situation

I guess I see what you're saying but it just seems weird to assume that he would have been an evil character. feels like him being famous for being a rapist and us assuming that makes him a homosexual since they are two men makes a lot more sense than him being famous for being homosexual and us assuming he's a rapist. I get your point of view though, it could be those were the authors intentions. could be translation errors too who knows

It isn't technially rape when emperors use their political power to get people to sleep with them.They know that if they refuse they'll be killed so they oblige to whatever he says,he didn't use any physical force to bind them but the people ordered ,came to him of their own accord in the end.Well,I just assumed all of this as it's the first thing that occured in my mind as I read this as a result of all the historical Mangas I've read before this one,but yeah it could be anything.We wouldn't have said it is sexist if the person raping him were his sister, right?
It could also be seen as a way of throwing light on issue of men being raped by men which does happen but in many countries isn't even accounted as rape.Or it could be that the author did write it with that intend and I might be wrong but it could be as a consequence of his own or some friend's encounter with a homosexual person who tried to rape him.Which is common in Korea during military service (even some straight men could be the abusers).if a male character is said to be a rapist wrt a female I obviously wouldn't label all men as rapist and so should be the case with gays.
Well,in the end whatever it may be.

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What? It absolutely is technically rape, It's rape in every sense of the word. Someone being in a position of power able to force their victims to comply makes them a rapist. you don't need to physically force someone to rape them. if youre telling someone "Have sex with me or else" you are raping them. Also sexist??? it's not sexist? what? "all men are not rapists" i didnt say they were?? you've really lost me here

Oh sorry I actually searched the defination of rape and I didn't know manipulation was also considered rape(guess all those victims in the yaois I read could have landed their abusers in jail..but oh). Also I'm saying that homosexuals can also be abusers a news article talking about a homosexual who raped a guy wouldn't mean that newspaper is homophobic.In the same way as saying a straight man raped a women wouldn't mean a newspaper is against guys in general.And as you said if it's not sexist to say "A woman raped a man"

Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh now I'll pretend I didn't see this comment at all
Pls don't be homophobic author nim

I read that differently. Even if it is in regards to what you actually meant about homophobia I believe. It almost sounded like the ones who made that statement were surprised that a gay man would touch his brother. And that they would be less surprised if a straight man touched his sister. But I sometimes interpret things weirdly so I sincerely hope you're taking that with a grain of salt.

Added to edit: ...were surprised that a gay man would *rape* his brother.... if a straight man *raped* his sister.

Yes I acknowledge what I'm saying is gross and I apologize for that. . Still what I'm trying to convey is that this world may seem more equal in terms of sex/gender but there are definitely discrepancies in status and rape of women might not be taken as seriously. Rape of men might be considered more heinous. And given that this seems to be describing a long period before the current timeframe of the story there could have been even less equality. The author might be taking the setting of their story into account when mentioning that.

However, along with interpreting things weirdly I might just be coming up with excuses now. So my apologies again!

It's just as likely in real life that rape victims will not bring their rapists to trial as often as it is portrayed that they won't bring their rapists to trial in fiction. Precisely because the true meaning of consent (wholly affirmative and mutual agreements) is so obscured by outsiders.

As for your analogy though it kinda matches with the one I made in my previous post, in that sometimes one 'ism' can be used in place of another.

I'm a bit confused but it seems like your heart is in the right place? maybe you're right and the author was trying to do something deep. hopefully that is the case

Homophobic? From your point of view, it maybe so and it is to a certain extent. But keeping in mind that homosexuality was not normalized in medieval times, it is something to be expected. And the "prince's brother who was famous for homosexuality did not hesitate to touch his brother" could mean the prince was famous and talked about a lot because of him liking the same gender, which was quite not normal and often frowned upon. And the author might be trying to create a tragic scenario of the jewelled eyes prince being raped by his gay brother when he couldn't resist or shield himself. Let's just hope it's actually this and the author is not homophobic

I see where your coming from but I’ve also read plenty of stories that had the same wording like he didn’t hesitate to touch his half sibling (sister), I more read it in a way that ppl in power are disgusting tbh espevially to the vulnerable.

i’m assuming it’ll be exposed once she gets her magic stone maybe it’ll turn all rainbow like

I hope so!!

It might be that the spirits know that it'll be a huge burden on her right now, so they want to protect her from people who would want to harm her and her family. Not that she actively hid it from her family. When she came back she was afraid of people finding out, but everyone only saw the 2 she got vs all of the spirit kings. Even if she said she made a contract with ALL of them they will just say "Oh sweetie, you just got 2."

I fully agree with this