She was never trained to use a gun, never trained to take over, never trained to fight or dodge an attack. What the hell has her family been doing? Whether you are going to inherit the family or not, you should be trained in self protection and defence as well as attack. She should have been given a weapon to defend herself as well. She’s so stupid. She should have taken the gun from her bf and shot the hisashi guy cause then it’s just revenge for the bullet he put in her. Actually, for harming the future head lady of the yakuza or any woman for that matter, the punishment is harsh. He would have been tortured or killed for it. Why does this feel like the author didn’t do any research and didn’t bother to make the “strong willed” FMC actually fit into the narrative they are trying to portray? I read a lot of mafia books and almost all of the women in the mafia books know self defence and how to point and aim a gun. Even staff like the head maid or butler of estate can fight! It just baffles me.
You can’t get blood from your own elbow… it’s impossible to put the needle in properly yourself without absolutely destroying some veins going in and going out. I don’t know why the guy didn’t teach him how to safely draw blood HIMSELF cause all he did was do a standard blood draw as any nurse or phlebotomist would do.
This is by no means me telling anyone to do this or that it’s safe or that anyone should try this so keep that in mind!
But if you’re gonna do it yourself like this guy wants, do it in the leg or in the wrist. Wrist is easier, tourniquet under elbow and do is so tight that your arm goes very slightly numb. You need to properly cut off the blood circulation for a little while otherwise bad things can happen inside the vein. It’s better to do it up the arm than down is since the thicker “veins” called arteries take the blood to the appendages and the thinner ones (actually called “veins”) take the blood back to the heart. If you see a thin line that’s less than 1mm wide, it’s probably a capillary and you can’t draw blood from those. You can use butterfly needles which are thinner and have a higher chance of actually getting into the vein without any rupturing. While doing a blood draw, have sugar for the love of all that is holy and unholy in this universe. The last thing anyone needs is someone passed out while blood is still flowing out of them and into a blood bag or vials. Anyways I don’t think he will be able to handle using a needle to do blood draws. He’s actually better off cutting his wrist lightly since it’s actually not the best method to bleed out since there aren’t any major arteries in the wrist to bleed out quickly enough. It’s why vampires bite wrists when they just want a quick drink as opposed to draining a victim dry via carotid artery in the neck.
BTW, I’m not a serial killer or a doctor or anything. I want to be a forensic scientist so I know a lot of pretty weird and kinda morbid details about the human anatomy and a lot of things doctors know too. I just found this one part of the story to be extra nonsensical.
Id like to preface this with the fact that self phlebotomy is never recommended, even if you're a doctor or nurse. BUT if you were to do so, antecubital fossa would be the way to go. Not sure why you think wrist or leg is better. Source: am doctor
Because you can’t push a needle up the vein in the elbow pit aka antecubital fossa yourself. You’d end up twisting the needle or doing it at a bad angle. At least in the forearm, wrist or the leg, you’d have a better chance at getting the needle in without doing too much damage to the vein or veins surrounding it. Also with all due respect, doctors don’t usually do the blood tests themselves. The elbow pit gets the best amount of blood fastest and it’s the easiest place for a nurse or phlebotomist to draw blood from. But if you’d try to do it yourself, you wouldn’t be able to do a good blood draw. Heroin users might have a better chance but they usually inject in rather than suck out. I’m a pretty curious person (hence forensics) and ask my nurses all the time when I get a blood test (like every month or twice a month at this point) about certain things to do with the process. The wrist or forearm is an ideal place as IV is put in there. My mum had blood transfusions and also had a stem cell transplant directly to her heart for cancer treatment and the tube went into the forearm. When I asked why, they said it was easier there to keep the needle and tube in place when you aren’t being monitored by the nurse every second of the transaction. I can attest to it being easier because I moved slightly when I coughed during a blood draw and after the procedure, I had a bruise about 2 inches squared or so that lasted 2 months maybe 2 and a half months. If you’re doing blood draws often, that’s bad. You won’t be able to see the veins you’re poking at. I don’t recommend anyone doing it themselves but for the sake of the story going that way, they are teaching the guy to do it all wrong, probably because the phlebotomist wants to do it himself to save everyone the hassle.
I appreciate the interesting discourse! I would like to say, however, that it is not impossible to obtain blood from the antecubital fossa, and in fact the most significant group of self-phlebotomists I'm aware of are in the anabolic steroid community, and they do this practice (inadvisably) when their hematocrit is elevated from the steroids. Also if you are a non-expert phlebotomist, I would say it is equally as challenging to even try and get the needle in your wrist or forearm due to the veins being more mobile and substantially smaller. In fact, I see a lot of severe bruising from forearm draws regardless of whether the individual coughs or not during the draw. It also takes a longer time to draw substantial amounts of blood from these areas due to flow. Additionally, it is not typically common to get blood draws from the legs due to risk of DVT, which can become serious and lead to pulmonary embolism and potentially death. In terms of placement of IV catheters, that is almost a separate discussion but they are placed in both the wrist and the antecubital fossa, and it should not be an issue to place it in the elbow because the IV catheter is flexible. Also, blood transfusions are different from blood draws in that the time needed for these span the order of hours rather than the shorter amount of time to obtain blood. Also, who do you think nurses turn to when they can't get a needle stick for a blood draw? --> a more experienced nurse --> doctor (with or without their handy dandy ultrasound machine)--> anesthesiology
But of course, this is all just a theoretical discussion in the name of good fun while we binge yaoi manga and by no means should you necessarily trust information from some rando on the Internet who claims to be a doctor
Yeah. I’m basing it off of my own knowledge of the human anatomy, forensics cases in the past, my own nurses and phlebotomists recounts and my own experiences. I’ve also had to inject myself a few times with depo shot which is stomach or thigh. I say thigh purely for the ease of location and it’s less chance of you messing up the angle if it’s right in front of you. As far as I’m aware, doctors aren’t advised to do blood draws as they aren’t practicing it often. Although they have knowledge of it and have done it before, they don’t do it on a daily basis and some of my own doctors have stated that they would rather attempt major surgery than a blood draw from how many years/decades it’s been since they last did one. This has been a very interesting discussion though!
lmao not a whole medical discussion going on in a yaoi smut comment section
LMAOAOAO im cackling but this was rlly helpful tho - a persone who wanna pursue meds
As a phlebotomist, I think doing self phlebotomy wouldn’t necessarily be “impossible” from typical draw sites. If anything, the hardest thing would be for some who is so inexperienced to find their veins. I would imagine that he would jab
That’s what I meant by “impossible”. I’ve struggled to do depo shots on myself and I know how to do them from being shown how to do it properly. To do a blood draw without being able to see the site in a mirror properly or see the veins properly, it would be too risky. Out of all of his options, it’s best just to be bit on the wrist and be done with it. Unless he’s used drugs via needles before, he’s just going to mess up and damage himself in the process.
I didn’t really feel like he was crazy enough to be called wacko until this episode cause although he’s eccentric, he’s not exactly clinically insane… or at least until this chapter where he’s apparently thrown his entire brain out cause wtf?!?! Why would you offer something like that? And to a trashy old man? Wow. Just… no words can describe him better than “wacko”.
Well.... It's not a spoiler but my understanding by reading this
Wacko's other name is Han Jay, and remember people mentioning that the largest Share Holder of Dream Ent. Is held by not one person but a Company that is run by Han Group or Family.
And I'm pretty sure Yoon Jay's the head of that company, that's why he doesn't mind selling his shares to cranky rotten old man, as it also serves the purpose of making the old dude less conscious of Yoon, simultaneously helping Lee Yoohan.
And remember how Wacko said to Taemin that " don't be surprised I plan to loose the first round". I'm pretty sure this is the first round he was talking about.
I know that he said he planned to lose the first round so I did expect him to do something crazy but the way he worded it was what makes him insane to me. “I’m willing to throw away my own company if you beg me for to help you with your revenge ” is basically what he said but it’s so yandere when he says it. He doesn’t seem like the type of man to do anything without getting something in return. Yes, he’s lost the battle to win the war but what does he gain from helping Taemin? Taemin isn’t even putting out so you can’t really call it “sponsoring”. I agree that he’s taking full advantage of both of his surnames but he could have done all of this without getting involved with Taemin or offering to help with the revenge. Even if I was madly in love with the person and we’ve been married for 27 years, I wouldn’t give up my career or company or job for them if it was an emergency let alone sell my company away just if they ask me nicely to. Chaebol kids don’t usually work hard for their company shares so selling in that case wouldn’t matter but jay isn’t like that. He works so hard that he doesn’t sleep for his companies. He’s on top of EVERYTHING in all of his companies and he’s basically living a double life on top of that. To sacrifice all of that hard work for a person who isn’t giving you anything in return is just crazy to me. I love Taemin but we all know that he hasn’t done nearly enough to be getting all these favours from jay as his sponsee.
Well it's not sacrifice actually, it's not like he's gonna do that for Taemin's sake either, it's plain old making the person indebted towards you scheme.
Jay already has planned out what is has to do and what he's going to do. But by wording that to Taemin that if you ask nicely and beg me for it I'll sell my shares to help you is mind play on Jay's part to keep Taemin under his wraps, furthermore Taemin's personality won't allow him to ask such favours, Jay knows that too.
Jay showing to Taemin how hardworking he is and how he works for his career and then saying to Taemin that if want I can sacrifice a part of career for you is just manipulation.
Imagine someone did that to you won't you feel for that person (I'm not saying romantically) but you'll feel indebted, find it hard to refuse them, and even if know it's wrong you'll go along with them finding it hard to say no. As somewhere in your head you'd know that they sacrificed their career that was super important to them for you, and the things you feel is wrong or icky is nothing compared to their sacrifice.
Also Jay imprinted on Taemin's head that he doesn't joke about things like this, so even when Taemin does not ask for the favour and Jay does not do it for Taemin, just the sincerity that Jay is willing to do it for him will lead to somewhere where Taemin will develop a spot for Jay where he'll be in no position to refuse Jay.
He's already having a hard time saying no to Jay.
Also, Jay doesn't need Taemin for his plans. At first he kept Taemin by his side because Taemin did not know who Jay was and it was amusing for him and later when he found out that Taemin is the rabbit dude he fucked 5 years ago he's doing all he can to keep him by his side.
Didn't you catch the major change in Jay's behaviour towards Taemin after he found out he's the dude he had shared a night with
That’s why I called him wacko tho. He’s insane. Normal people wouldn’t sacrifice their own career that they built up in order to lock a person down. Normal people wouldn’t employ tactics like this even if they do mean to lose the battle to win the war. Normal people would say “if I win this war for you, give me a reward” and curry favour that way. Both are manipulative but one manipulates into a good light and his method manipulates into a bad light. The reward method is to get the person used to showing affection towards the manipulator and to get the person to associate this manipulator with being helpful. They’ll keep the manipulator around because they are a good asset. This is why people like golden retriever types because they do as they are told and protect without needing to be told but also beg for attention so sweetly that you can’t help but want to spoil them more. By showing a pitiful face, you get more affection and attention. Cats have this method down to a fine art. They even modified their own cries to mimic that of a baby in order to further manipulate us into viewing them as pitiful things we need to protect and to keep. We reward them for good behaviour because we associate them with bad ones. That is all manipulation. But this kind is the one that majority of everyone will use at some point. The way jay manipulates isn’t normal. He ties people down with secrets and lies and when that’s not enough, he uses guilt and self-deprecation in order to get what he wants. When he tries to “act cute”, it’s not to reinforce happy and good feelings, it’s to make Taemin feel slightly unsettled: “why is he in a good mood?” No one sees someone in the office and thinks “why are they in a good mood?”, we feel happy that another person is happy. Jay literally turned a positive emotion uncanny for the sake of this plot he’s created and up until this point, it’s just been his natural disposition as an eccentric guy who’s really high up the food chain so he’s viewed as a different type of person, one we can’t understand. Now, we see that he wasn’t just doing it for his natural quirkiness and the uncanny feeling isn’t because we associate power with stoicism, it’s because he’s manipulating people but in such a weird way. Honestly he feels borderline sociopathic now. What used to be his quirky dark charm is now a real reason to want to run from him. If someone said to me that they will give up their career for me, even as a joke, I’d hightail it out of there. That’s beyond manipulation. That person just isn’t right in the head. This is the difference between tilting the scales in your favour and breaking the scale in order to get what you want. Jay is breaking the scale. I still love his character and the depth of it but if he was real, I would run and never look back. Jay is worse than the sadistic old man because Jay isn’t doing it for sadistic purposes, he’s doing it as if this is as natural as breathing.
Exactly.... You're fine as hell when you're inside the screen but if pop up in real life, i'mma stay 500 miles away from you.
When a man tells you he doesn’t want you, don’t chase him and don’t let him tell you twice. It honestly demeans yourself. He can come and correct his statement but you do not go over there and beg. If a man who says he likes you goes off with another woman, you don’t waste time waiting around for him to see you and only you. You leave him and find someone who WILL see you and only you. Why compromise on key requirements for a relationship? A man who will flirt with every women will most likely always flirt with everyone woman. A man who denies any involvement with you will most likely deny your relationship over and over again. Trust your gut. Your head is a pessimist, your heart is an optimist but your gut sees reality for what it is. If that reality is inaccurate or the other party messed up how they wanted to portray themselves, they can come and explain. No explanation, no love. Stop normalising men being bad partners without consequences and stop normalising women having to beg and corner men for love. The fact is that we deserve love without needing to beg or corner anyone and we can get that even if it isn’t with the guy we want. Sometimes, it’s better to wait for the guy we need than to waste energy on the guy we want. Grandmas just like drama and all of them had to push their men into being better. Now, we’ve learnt that if we up our standards and state them clearly, there are men who fit that bill and we no longer need to settle for a fixer upper.
I didn’t know that angels could turn demon if they gave in… I wonder why the other angels haven’t given in like that… or is it that a demon needs to “corrupt” you to turn you? Idk but he looks wayyyyy better with black hair so I’m okay with this change.
I understand wanting to make your partner mad to see a different side of them. When your partner is super kind and loving and restrained, you feel like they are holding themselves back and you want them to give you the full brunt of their passion. That being said, don’t ever use jealousy as the method to make them angry. Knock over a plant, break a dish in the sink, tell them that their shirt is the wrong way round to annoy them even if it isn’t, but NEVER fake cheat. It’s disrespectful and cruel and can ruin your whole relationship with that person. They might never trust you again and with this couples trust issues… I don’t think it would survive. I’d rather make my partner lust over me until they had no choice but to give into the temptation and absolutely ravage me than to make them genuinely angry. He could also just express interest in certain kinks and try them out together. Like the friend said, he’d probably do whatever his bf asked him to do without question.
Isn’t it a rule that only parents and guardians can pick up children with the exception of if they were previously notified that someone else would be picking the child up? I wouldn’t trust a daycare that released a child without first calling the guardian to find out if the person has authority to take the child…
Yep, very much so. Even summer camps have the same rule, and they're much less organized than schools/daycares. Even if it was an officer, they shouldn't have released her.
normally yes but they clearly made an exception cuz that guy was an officer. but him being a cop doesnt mean he cant be a pedo
Yeah, the exception should not have happened due to him being an officer. Pedo thing aside because that really doesn't matter here, CPS and law enforcement are only allowed to take custody of a child if they have the proper authorization (warrants, etc). The daycare screwed up.
no yeah i agree, unfortunately in real life ppl are very scared of cops because they can be very vindictive if they dont get their way and can make your life hell
though also, idk where the authors are from but in places like japan and maybe korea, cops are extremely trusted so it makes more sense thinking about it like that
Mum is the only good character in this whole book. Everyone likes cain but he’s manipulative and he’s secretive. He will do everything for you and eventually you’ll get so fed up of not knowing the man you’re in a relationship with that you’ll break up with him for not being in this relationship with you in an emotional and mental sense. Yahwi is trying bless him but he’s not gonna be able to fix the bridges he burned. He needs therapy and he needs to heal. He can’t be with anyone right now. Anyone and anything can trigger him and make him go back to being an AH and that’s not good for anyone. I do like him for being the only character that’s acknowledged everything they’ve done wrong and tried to change. Cain and jooin won’t acknowledge any of their wrong doing to other people and don’t try to change to better themselves AT ALL. That being said, I still want yahwi single for the time being. He needs healing not romance. Jooin is a mess. He’s sloppy and he’s not thinking about anyone but himself. Yes you’re the main character of your own story but that doesn’t mean other people have to view you as such. That’s such an entitled way of thinking. He takes comfort in these two men and uses them but never commits to either one. He plays them against each other for no reason other than neither of them being EXACTLY what he wants. He refuses to even suggest that both of them are what he wants and that maybe trying a poly or open relationship might be a good way forward. He refuses to ignore anyone’s affections outright by just leaving their lives completely and cutting the cord. He just expects that they stay but at the same time wants both of them to leave their bad parts and their ugly parts at the front door. It doesn’t work like that. If you want someone to know you, you need to OFFER information and not just wait for it. He’s pulling a burr here and he will thoroughly regret it. Right now, he wants everything and anything that could be good for him but he’s not doing anything to get them and to hold them close to his heart. Relationships are hard work both ways. He expects both of them to work hard but not himself. He revels in yahwis obsession and remorse and his devastation from his past because it means jooin isn’t the only messed up person around and he seeks comfort in subservient yet secretive cain because he doesn’t actually care about cains life or hobbies, he wants cain as cain wants to be presented: as an obedient and comforting dog. Honestly, I hate the whole book but it’s like I’m watching a trainwreck and can’t look away. I want to say I’m done with this book but I need to know if jooin ever gets his head out his ass and starts actually behaving like a normal person and not an entitled spoiled brat. As always, I’m hoping cain and yahwi seek therapy and are able to work through their issues and start healing and putting themselves first in a healthy way. Jooin needs more than just therapy right now so I’ll hold off on wishing anything for him.
I need him to grovel, to open up fully, I need him vulnerable to all attacks and just allowing anything our sweet baby wants to give him in the name of revenge. I need him to prove he’s not a threat in both words and action. I need him to continue to look after those around our baby until our baby wants him to look after him as well. I need so much more from him. It’s not even about making him suffer. He can never and will never be able to suffer as much as our baby because our baby isn’t cruel enough to do those things back. So the only thing that will make this right is total submission and subservience with no expectations of anything further. And then it’s up to our baby when his subservience is enough to start to want to mend those bridges. He has to mend those bridges for our baby first tho. That means brick by brick, carefully placing each one and making sure that they are secure and would stand up to the test of time and nature, and then reinforcing it further. If he can’t do that for our baby, I want him to truly give up after these few dates. He gets what he earns but he hasn’t earned anything yet. I hope he makes the right choice.
Yes!
The site said “passion” and beom is totally gonna think that’s sexual and not romantic and bitch teeth won’t realise the intention because he’s will be too far buried in beoms ass are they even gonna be able to stop having sex long enough for beom to say those 4 words?