star September 27, 2024 8:32 am

(Spoilers)

Their reasoning for why Marcille couldn’t have her wish didn’t convince me tbh. Like we know now that it wouldn’t have been possible without severe consequences, but the way it was brushed off- and everyone in the party collectively didn’t like the idea of their lifespans being heightened annoyed me.

Especially since the entire argument was “well, that’s because it’s what YOU wish Marcille. If you force others to blah and blah.” Okay, this is an argument on why she can’t FORCE it onto others, but not considering the actual idea or the benefits lengthening life spans could give to other species. If she wanted everyone to live forever, like Thistle did, then this would’ve held a lot more weight, but increasing life spans so the races were on a more equal plane genuinely doesn’t sound like a bad idea, and it annoyed me that it was dismissed so quickly. Like sure maybe to 1000 is too much, and 

I get the potential risks as a result of increasing their life spans, like overpopulation. (To their credit they did argue that in order for one being to live, another may die, which I kinda get). But if seriously considered, I feel like workarounds could be thought up too, but nah they put it on the same level as bad as living for infinity and shut it down, which really annoyed me.

To me I view it like having an antidote offered to you to solve a life-threatening disease, and you just decline it because “death is natural, we must all learn to accept it.” Like bitch, take the antidote, damn, you’ll be able to die anyway, it’s not completely removing it

    Purple November 12, 2024 6:29 pm

    I view it as disrupting the ecology. Even in the real world, there's a thing called ecological homeostasis. An abrupt change like that, involving lots of species than can talk and use up resources, will be difficult as it not just affects their biology and basic needs but also their culture, politics, etc.

    But, I guess that concept was too complex to explain so they just go with the argument where it gets personal and not everyone wants to live that long especially after interacting with the people at the immortal village, where 1000 years is basically equivalent to immortality for humans already.

    star November 12, 2024 7:33 pm
    I view it as disrupting the ecology. Even in the real world, there's a thing called ecological homeostasis. An abrupt change like that, involving lots of species than can talk and use up resources, will be diff... Purple

    i definitely get the culture and politics part too. it’d be a drastic change for everyone. at the same time, change isn’t always bad. death is natural and should be accepted at some point, but if it can be avoided, it’s dumb to tell everyone to suck it up because that’s how things are.

    to help people adapt to it, the idea should be introduced slowly. expanding life spans for 5 years, ten, and etc. then deal with said complications as they arrive.

    i think challenges are bound to arise, but it can be something that can be fought for if everyone’s on the same page.

    idk maybe i’m just too idealistic ╥﹏╥

    Purple November 21, 2024 5:05 pm
    i definitely get the culture and politics part too. it’d be a drastic change for everyone. at the same time, change isn’t always bad. death is natural and should be accepted at some point, but if it can be ... star

    In a world where stuff like magic exists, anything is possible, so the entire population's basic adaptation in terms of resources being unrealistic isnt the worst problem.

    Marcille did not talk about gradual lengthening of lifespan, but rather instantly lengthening all lifespan for all species because it stems from her personal desire to form lasting relationships with other species, especially her friends.

    Idk how conservative people think in that story compared to us but i imagine they are waaaay more conservative. It means many individuals might reject the idea entirely. Just because living longer seems desirable doesn’t mean it’s universally appealing.

    It’s not about telling people to accept death or suck it up, the real issue is imposing such a massive change on everyone without consent. Forcing people to live longer could lead to suffering, especially if their circumstances or beliefs dont align with such a change. Id personally prefer a shorter life if living 1000 years meant more struggles.

    Purple November 21, 2024 5:21 pm
    i definitely get the culture and politics part too. it’d be a drastic change for everyone. at the same time, change isn’t always bad. death is natural and should be accepted at some point, but if it can be ... star

    I still believe that the impact on sociopolitics is way worse.

star September 26, 2024 5:41 am

she’s not gonna sacrifice herself for a man that did not want her in the end lmfao

star August 30, 2024 7:48 am

idk if anyone noticed but the moment remi took her body back, one of the first things she did was cut her hair. where we’re currently at in the manga, enough time has passed for it to grow almost to the original length emi had it at, she also paired it with the same outfit emi wore the day she got framed.

i can’t properly articulate how beautiful this is, in the time it took for her to grow her hair back, she swiftly put pina in the palm of her hand.

i hope it gets a little dragged out, since it seems we’re coming to a conclusion soon but i don’t want this wonderful manga to end :’)

star July 29, 2024 6:48 am

The way the count died was so dark and glossed over :’( i know he was a shady guy who did some questionable things, but man, it still hurts my heart. there’s this scene where the poor guy is in bed all bandaged up with arias mom standing beside him, his eyes looked so soft and pure while he was still recovering. it’s really tragic..

it was a satisfying way to wrap up the roscent family, but his death was truly brutal.

    MinYoonMin August 1, 2024 4:59 am

    I kinda agree, he's not the best person but to hear your family die like that is tragic

star July 22, 2024 2:27 pm

making him confused after repeatedly harassing and s/aing him doesn’t making him secretly gay, it makes him traumatized. (even if he does end up being in denial, its evil to force him and strip away his ability to explore on his own terms).

i’m still pissed off that this was being marketed as some cute shounen ai and in reality has these poorly treated dark themes that should make it fall under psychological horror. the ‘s/a into questioning and forgiving abusers bc they liked it all along’ pipeline is an outdated ass trope that should die already, it reeks.

if you enjoy these themes i hope even you can agree that they should be labeled appropriately and separated from the bl genre instead of treating it as one in the same, so ppl who don’t like it can avoid it

    milkiss33 July 22, 2024 2:58 pm

    I thought i was tweaking when NO ONE ever mentioned how much the ml’s violated mc by stalking, s/a-ing him, victim blaming?? Suggestive content of the mc who’s a minor?? Not to mention how badly portrayed his character’s attitude was towards getting s/a’d while blackout drunk, “damn! i forgot about last night!”…dude…

    star July 22, 2024 3:20 pm
    I thought i was tweaking when NO ONE ever mentioned how much the ml’s violated mc by stalking, s/a-ing him, victim blaming?? Suggestive content of the mc who’s a minor?? Not to mention how badly portrayed h... milkiss33

    EXACTLYY IM SO GLAD ITS NOT JUST ME

    ode July 23, 2024 6:03 am

    PREACHHH

star July 7, 2024 11:28 am

does no one else find it kinda of weird the mc got executed for deception? how is it her fault for ‘deceiving’ the empire as if he didn’t personally take her in as his daughter and watch her grow up since she was a baby? like worst case scenario the dads the one who accidentally took in someone else’s kid

    Quanxi's Simp July 9, 2024 2:27 am

    that’s what I thought to tbh. the whole deceiving thing was actually really stupid, but probably due to some main key; the prophecy (the more i delve into the story, the more i hated the goddess or the people there that are extremely gullible.) first, i think they are trying to point out that the father of the mc was the guy supported by the count — probably taking advantage of the fact that the mc did not look like the duke. it honestly was a messy situation, but it just proved the fact that the people there is actually stupid and would believe anything they hear (even through gossip LMAO). besides due to the prophecy also, it is inevitable but to execute the mc (she was thought to be the false daughter) to avoid the war. the story was a little messy at execution, but it is a good concept ngl. the fact that the antagonist is out there for malice and no specific reason really holds the good story (since demons like the taste of victory, even if there is no actual benefit in it). I know there would probably a back story why Cosette (i forgot her demon name) would do that, but it would honestly be better if she didn’t and remained as the bad bitch she is. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

star June 9, 2024 11:05 pm

i’ve been skipping this bc i hate flashbacks, i just want progression abt the people i care abt and what they’re doing in the present. i’d rather have the three present chapters, im tired of waiting i wanna see anya and if her dynamic changes with damien after the bomb she threw at him :’)

    Calypso June 9, 2024 11:56 pm

    I mean valid opinion BUT flashbacks offer depth to other characters that may grow on you. Plus the author is gonna continue them anyways - might as well read while you wait LMAO

    Addic June 10, 2024 3:52 am
    I mean valid opinion BUT flashbacks offer depth to other characters that may grow on you. Plus the author is gonna continue them anyways - might as well read while you wait LMAO Calypso

    And it's soo good.... My pillow is wet with my tears

    Calypso June 10, 2024 4:27 am
    And it's soo good.... My pillow is wet with my tears Addic

    REAL I was gasping for airrr

    star June 10, 2024 7:22 am
    I mean valid opinion BUT flashbacks offer depth to other characters that may grow on you. Plus the author is gonna continue them anyways - might as well read while you wait LMAO Calypso

    omg amazing point ngl, i just get impatient sometimes </3 ur right tho might as well give it a shot

    Lily of the Valley June 10, 2024 1:36 pm

    Well most of us do care about Mr. Henderson's backstory, he's a very lovable character. Moreover, it's important to see as many points of view on war as possible.

    star June 10, 2024 9:36 pm
    Well most of us do care about Mr. Henderson's backstory, he's a very lovable character. Moreover, it's important to see as many points of view on war as possible. Lily of the Valley

    true! i enjoy his character a lot too, but with the cliffhanger on anya’s part i get impatient and want to see if what she says holds any impact.

star May 24, 2024 1:39 am

ugh i can’t get enough of her, put them in their place!!!! i love her sm

star May 5, 2024 8:14 am

i rlly enjoy the world building but one thing i don’t like is how they try and claim that the male leads aren’t brainwashed. they’re having their emotions heightened, exaggerated and controlled without their consent. even if they have personal beliefs, needs or desires that happen to be compatible with its effects (for example i think the ex fiancé has some insecurity that has him wanting to compete with remi), his emotions are still being manipulated and accelerated.

i think every person has at least a few unreasonable thoughts or emotions. we can’t help things such as envy, frustration or even uncomfortabality towards others, but it’s important to recognize these thoughts are unreasonable and not take it out on someone who’s literally doing nothing wrong. except how are you supposed to be able to control those unreasonable thoughts if they’re being controlled, accelerated, provoked and influenced by someone else without your knowledge or consent?

its kind of like yuri in ddlc where her love/obsession was heightened to the point she went insane. its mind control, or at the very least manipulation, and they’re still victims.

    Saphir May 5, 2024 11:41 am

    He is but he has a inferiority complex because his former fiancee has the one who gave all good Idea...he didn't like the fact that she was so smart and wanted her to depend on him more that why he accepted easily that situation... jealousy envy...your partner wanted to support you

    Lady hatake May 20, 2024 6:43 pm

    Maybe his infatuation for the evil bitch is manufactured by the magic, but not his overall actions & emotions regarding the FL. He always envied her, was jealous of her skills & the praises she received, & resented her for making him feel incompetent. Notice that he only started to get along with her, after she said that she was working hard for HIS sake. It gave him a feeling of superiority to hear that she saw herself inferior to HIM. He felt entitlement because she was working that hard, just to be to "catch up to him" & become useful to HIM. That's the only reason he became less hostile towards her, & allowed himself to care a bit for her. But when he saw people praising HER, he stupidly saw it as her showing off. Unfortunately for the FL, she had an affinity to be praised by the people whose praise HE wanted for HIMSELF.

    The persuasion simply gave him the opportunity he was hoping for, to rise above he & the excuse he needed to make himself feel better about himself. That's why he wanted her to apologize publicly, so that people could see that she wasn't the perfect girl they so fervently praised. If he had actually cherished her, but was under magical influence. He would've dismissed her privately, to spare her publicly. Or something along those line, The manipulation of his emotions simply suppressed the SLIGHT care he had for her. That's why he feels that nagging little pinch of guilt when his actions come into question. In those moments the magic is less effective, so his inner guilt comes through. At this point it's all him, not because his emotions are manipulated.

    star May 20, 2024 7:11 pm
    Maybe his infatuation for the evil bitch is manufactured by the magic, but not his overall actions & emotions regarding the FL. He always envied her, was jealous of her skills & the praises she received... Lady hatake

    I see your point, but i still disagree to an extent. He was influenced and manipulated without his knowledge or consent which resulted in his inferiority complex flourishing in this specific scenario.

    While i do find it believable that another scenario could’ve happened where it was purely his own will, without the usage of the items, we will never truly know because what happened was that he was manipulated by the perfume.


    It doesn’t help that it effectively worked on multiple people who viewed her in a respectful light to top it off. Their negative feelings, inferiorities, selfishness etc and all the flawed aspects of their character were heightened. Star maiden’s manipulation was the cherry on top to completely sway them.

    I still respect your perspective, i personally still think it’s brainwashing, just a subtle version of it, but I do see how even without the perfume, they could’ve done it by their own free will given other circumstances due to their negative traits.

    star May 20, 2024 7:13 pm
    Maybe his infatuation for the evil bitch is manufactured by the magic, but not his overall actions & emotions regarding the FL. He always envied her, was jealous of her skills & the praises she received... Lady hatake

    oh another thing to add as that since it’s heightening their existing flaws, it’s not allowing them to think rationally over their actions and GROW as people, that limitation is why i believe it’s brain washing.

    Alenira May 22, 2024 9:41 pm
    oh another thing to add as that since it’s heightening their existing flaws, it’s not allowing them to think rationally over their actions and GROW as people, that limitation is why i believe it’s brain w... star

    Acording to the novel.. The prince was never realy affected by the love potion, because as a royal, he has had his resistance raised from childhood.
    It is stated that he knew he couldn't trust the "heroin" but chose to condem FL because he wanted her to come crawling back begging at his feet.
    He wanted to see her broken to the point she would have nothing, thats how bad his inferiority complex is. Because he is all looks and no brain. Its the same with his friends, most of them resented FL for being great at everything when they only had one thing they were great at.

    star May 22, 2024 10:45 pm
    Acording to the novel.. The prince was never realy affected by the love potion, because as a royal, he has had his resistance raised from childhood. It is stated that he knew he couldn't trust the "heroin" but ... Alenira

    oh wow! that definitely puts things in a different light, thank you for sharing it with me. i think the novel does a better job at portraying its mostly their own selfishness than influence of the perfume, bc in the manga they’re highly uncomfortable, then suddenly do a 180

star April 4, 2024 11:52 pm

i didn’t want it to end ╥﹏╥

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