MangaAnger9 January 9, 2021 8:24 pm

I am more comfortable with this premise than "It Looks Like I’ve Fallen into the World of a Reverse Harem Game".
The reason why the red haired MC is stuck in this game world to begin with is quite messed up and stupid. And I don't like the how the logic or magical rules works in this world.

MangaAnger9 January 9, 2021 7:07 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N3G7XfO09o

Japan’s Cheating Problem (Female POV)

Many things are going away in Japan because of the virus (e.g. traveling, events, eating out, etc), but what about cheating? Is it finally less common now? [Please turn on CC for English subtitles]

MangaAnger9 January 9, 2021 10:33 am

I wish she would not end up with the blond prince, to be more self-aware + unapologetic, to shit more on the sexist males around her, doesn't care about the medieval rules about being a woman, able to create her own little kingdom of female warriors or mercernaries etc...
I know that Pauliana is a very modest humble strong character who only wants to survive but she lets herself to be bound to a status quo.

And anyone who complaints that would be too unrealistic...
https://www.rejectedprincesses.com/
https://www.cracked.com/article_19478_5-real-princesses-too-badass-disney-movies.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ab4rYDR0yY&list=PLD7nPL1U-R5rRebYOtG5hx6ucGDGQcANC
Badass Women of Drunk History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ygB1MfmrA&list=PLn4ob_5_ttEYsxceHSJkeLURrc6YV1bbE
Ordinary Women Daring To Defy History

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The female badass MCs in "Light & Shadow", "The Lady and The Beast" AND "Kingdom Of The Queen" wanted and were able to change things around them.
Pauliana on the other hand is just following loyally the most desirable emperor and in the end only because he fell in love with her, got her accidently pregnant during a drunk night and missed her dearly when she left his castle for good that he came up the law a woman can inherit the duke title.

    mangaholic February 11, 2021 5:46 pm

    ...

    Also I heard that in the novel during their first meeting he asked for her to be raped then killed.

    MangaAnger9 February 11, 2021 6:16 pm
    ...Also I heard that in the novel during their first meeting he asked for her to be raped then killed. mangaholic

    That's true. In the original the prince ML is more of a misogynistic playboy.

    mangaholic February 12, 2021 2:43 pm
    That's true. In the original the prince ML is more of a misogynistic playboy. MangaAnger9

    Yeah I honestly can't see anyone falling in love with someone who wanted them to get raped but idk ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

MangaAnger9 January 9, 2021 10:01 am

I highly recommend the webtoon "BEWARE OF THE VILLAINESS"!
Badass queen bitch does not end up with a toxic ML^^
She literally shits on him mercilessly ^^
And there is the really unusual sassy maid called Yona the materialistic snob

MangaAnger9 January 8, 2021 11:02 pm

There is this trope/logic that exists on other Mangas + Manwahs and is bothering me personally:

MC accidently created the tyrannical antagonist.
To make it more complicated and more melodramatic soapy the antagonist knew (as a loser/outsider/weakling) the MC who liked/befriended him in the past and suddenly after the antagonist gained power through the MC, killed in bloodrage anyone who harmed him and then innocent bystanders as collateral damage. An to make it worse he also killed some loved ones of the MC; thus making their relationship very conflicted and messed up...

Do you really like this twist plot or that the villain wants to cause the MC tremendous pain for very incomprehensible overdramatic reasons?
I have to say that I can't comprehend the idea why a struggling MC with an already hard life has to be mainly responsible for creating a monster tyrant or a disaster....
And she/he has to be personally connected to the fucked up antagonistic asshole.

MangaAnger9 January 8, 2021 3:47 pm

Ianna's story is mostly defined by chasing and becoming stronger for the ML Arhad.
And he has been chasing after her for a very long time like a stalker since they were gods.
Even though we see her slowly unleashing her hidden potentials on her own mostly, the ML is still kinda portrayed as more superior in status, power, intelligent, talent etc... despite of his current handicap.
Good for him getting more cute and supportive with her as an obsessive dark haired Tsundere.

She is probably the only female badass in her universe aside from the purble haired archmage Lalatua. Which is a shame. She is not like other girls Trope - Youtube.
Skeleton Soldier Coulnd't Protect The Dungeon + Kingdom of the Queen + Claymore have more real strong female characters.

It pains me to see that Ianna is still affected and sensitve by other nobles/aristocrats trash insults/rumors. And she can't unapologetically reject the offerings of a prince because she is still bound to the rules, norms and classist etiquettes of high royal society...
Girl, you already know your mighty origin, how powerful you are or how pointless everything is!!!

https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/reminiscence-adonis.90721/page-6
Some commentator argued that Ianna has some masochistic tendencies because of the ML...

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy the struggling journey of Ianna but there are still lots of things holding her back... It's frustrating that I can't ignore it.

Now when you look at Melissa and Yona from "Beware Of The Villainess": THEY DO NOT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT ANYTHING RELATED TO THE WORLD OF ELITISTS!!! THEY LITERALLY SHIT ON THEM!!! Even Yuri the original heroine wants to break free from this world. Melissa uses her inner rage/anger to change things around her and live her own joyful life + Yona is a delightful materialistic opportunistic snob explotiting happily other rich people ^^
Ianna on the other hand wants to follow and pleade loyality to the man who defeated and killed her in the first original timeline...

Another recommendation about emancipation and empowerment: The Pet Of The Villainess

    MangaAnger9 January 8, 2021 3:56 pm

    In "The Lady and The Beast" a red haired badass FL is also tied to the ML but...

    She killed his first incarnation, she is stonger, smarter and mature than the ML, she is detached from life, tortured but not that angry anymore, she doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks of her and other female characters are getting inspired by her. Like a commoner tomboy becoming a knight in training under Astina.

    https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/the-girl-and-the-beast-she-and-the-beast-the-lady-and-the-beast.111496/

    Amors January 9, 2021 1:49 am
    In "The Lady and The Beast" a red haired badass FL is also tied to the ML but...She killed his first incarnation, she is stonger, smarter and mature than the ML, she is detached from life, tortured but not that... MangaAnger9

    Ohh~ Can you share more comics other than what you mentioned? More on having a strong character and useful for the plot type of, I’ve been looking for more. Any genre (Romance, Action, Fantasy). Thank you!!’ (⌒▽⌒)

    MangaAnger9 January 9, 2021 10:03 am
    Ohh~ Can you share more comics other than what you mentioned? More on having a strong character and useful for the plot type of, I’ve been looking for more. Any genre (Romance, Action, Fantasy). Thank you!!�... Amors

    The Lady's Butler(SML is the ML), The Monster Duchess and the Contract Princess (Badass abused girl + Mature older Woman warrior), Light & Shadow (Superbadass FL in medieval time), The Villainess Lives Twice (Super calculating FL not inferior to ML), The Peerless Alchemist (Male Waifu + gay animals/mounts), UGLYHOOD (No romance but unfeminine badass), White Blood (I don't like the plot twist that the MC accidently created the tyrannical main antagonist), The Villainess' Slow Prison Life Began With Her Broken Engagement (Lazy Psycho Rachel), The Last Game (FL superior than ML), The Duchess With An Empty Soul (Great FL but first two antagonists are queer/gay), Tearmoon Empire Story (Funny self-serving FL does not end up with a prince who killed her), The Reincarnated Great Saint Hides Herself as a Saint (Relaxed smart FL doesn't need to be in pain anymore) and Sailor Moon Manga

    Amors January 9, 2021 7:41 pm
    The Lady's Butler(SML is the ML), The Monster Duchess and the Contract Princess (Badass abused girl + Mature older Woman warrior), Light & Shadow (Superbadass FL in medieval time), The Villainess Lives Twic... MangaAnger9

    Omygoodness, THANK YOU SO MUCH! I’ll save them right away. Woow, thats alot! I mean alot alot! Thank you so much!!! ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

    MangaAnger9 January 9, 2021 8:09 pm
    Omygoodness, THANK YOU SO MUCH! I’ll save them right away. Woow, thats alot! I mean alot alot! Thank you so much!!! ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ Amors

    You re welcome.

    Most of the stories I am drawn to are about female MCs who are not defined or underminded by an attractive shitty toxic ML who is either talented manchild, abusive bad boy or cruel fuck boy.

    Take for instance, in the webtoon "Emperor And The Female Knight" our MC Pauliana is a very unfeminine strong survivor who has to face constantly sexism and bigotism.
    You will admire her for how she manages to survives in a very hostile enviroment but at the end her life is defined/affected mainly by the blond emperor who saved her, admired her, gave her a position, fell in love with her and accidently got her pregnant when both were drunk. And just like Ianna still bound to conservative social norms by a patriarchal society...

MangaAnger9 January 7, 2021 9:32 pm

Saurian Cinema: Colonialism & The Lost World

No where is it writ that every single adaptation of The Lost World *HAS* to bend over backwards to reinforce a whole heap of racist colonial stereotypes. It's just that most of them tend to do exactly that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyczktZVbzA&t=132s

MangaAnger9 January 7, 2021 2:33 am

Doesn't the author recognize physical mistreatment and harassment towards the FL from the fucking ML?! Why is her being a punching bag portrayed as cute and funny???
What's fucked up about this story is that every character ignores or doesn't care enough that that scum ML keeps attacking her!!!

    cutiekat January 16, 2021 8:52 am

    The mc fights back too? Didn’t she freeze his whole ass arm and punch him multiple times? (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜

    MangaAnger9 January 16, 2021 9:13 am
    The mc fights back too? Didn’t she freeze his whole ass arm and punch him multiple times? (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜 cutiekat

    She never wins though and he never faces defeat. He always looks like a winner.
    That dynamic reminds me very much of Kaichou Wa Maid-sama + Special A!
    I really hate the trope where the poor(er) earnest hard working struggling FL always gets underminded by the sadistic superior richer ML... (╬ ̄皿 ̄)

    florescx January 18, 2021 10:29 am

    EXACTLY!! yes the fl and ml are competitive in studies but like, there was one time where she was kissed on the cheek and he PUNCHED HER & SHE JUST FLEW TO THE FUCKING WALL. his excuse was "haha are u getting rusty now?" bruh.. ._. i hate this type of asshole ml who is always "better than mc" in literally everything; status, power & looks. as a competitive person, the mc working hard asf but never being better than the ml who only laughs at her makes me want to rip his lungs out and feed it to the dogs

    MangaAnger9 January 18, 2021 10:48 am
    EXACTLY!! yes the fl and ml are competitive in studies but like, there was one time where she was kissed on the cheek and he PUNCHED HER & SHE JUST FLEW TO THE FUCKING WALL. his excuse was "haha are u getti... florescx

    And the only supposed weakness of the perfect cruel cold ML is his obsessive love for the struggling FL.
    Tired to see that his only flaw is being a terrible manchild! (/TДT)/
    Why is it the girl's duty to make him less shitty at her expense???

    Melissa from "Beware Of The Villainess" would have already successfully break his bones!!! Why? She fights more dirty, search acutely for the weaknesess of her opponent, good looks + status doesn't impress/intimate her, doesn't give a fuck about the royality and she is self aware smart.

    florescx January 18, 2021 1:09 pm
    And the only supposed weakness of the perfect cruel cold ML is his obsessive love for the struggling FL. Tired to see that his only flaw is being a terrible manchild! (/TДT)/ Why is it the girl's duty to mak... MangaAnger9

    omg HAHA. melissa and yuri rlly set my standards high for female leads!! now when i read mangas/manhwas and see a weak fl who keeps being harassed by the male lead i get the urge to bang my head against the wall.do you know any where the fl is powerful asf?

    I'd rather have a vicious strong mc than a strong & kind mc who keeps being mistreated. Kind of like Villainess reverses the hourglass or angelic lady

    MangaAnger9 January 18, 2021 3:03 pm
    omg HAHA. melissa and yuri rlly set my standards high for female leads!! now when i read mangas/manhwas and see a weak fl who keeps being harassed by the male lead i get the urge to bang my head against the wal... florescx

    Yona - The biggest bad bitch maid ^^

    My problem with "Villainess Reverses The Hourglass" is that we see the classic power dynamic between a FL and ML. FL's power is constantly underminded by the dark haired blue eyed superior ML who manhandled her first and then stalk her until she becomes soft.

    I highly recommend Daisy - How to Become the Duke's Fiancée. The FL is a plain kind grounded girl who can be a smart assertive badass but still knows her limits. Not overpowered but she keeps learning and growing. Quite relatable strong person.
    Like her more than Raeliana because she is not the already chosen heroine and doesn't get that easy intimidated by male characters.

    Plot twist: Raeliana was the true chosen protagonist all along. I felt betrayed by that revealation since I thought I ve been investing my time in a relatable extra.

    Daisy is intelligent and competent enough to be an equal to her dark haired ML who by the way is very respectful and sympathetic to her! It is a very functional mutual relationship between two pragmatic characters with the trope they unintentionally slowy fall in love with each other^^

    lilac February 21, 2021 12:55 am

    OMG THIS COMMENT THREAD GIVES ME LIFE. I thought I was weird because I fucking hate the ML because he is such an ASSHOLE. Seriously, its not "cute" at all!

    plinky25 February 21, 2021 1:32 am

    I get what you mean but they both fight each other tho. Plus I think you may be comparing stories you adore to all kinds of other ones. It’s obvious you won’t be satisfied if you always compare your favorites to new ones. It’s clear that you don’t like this type of romance or story, but like those other 2 you mentioned before- so I think it’s best if you look for similar ones instead of ones you’d dislike.

    Ruri February 21, 2021 2:44 am

    They were more physical when they were kids in the academy, but as they grew older they became a little less overly violent, but still physical. Like when he punched her to the wall they were still teens, and she immediately knocked him hard back. When they reunited as adults you can tell their relationship is less all out play-ground war.

    I think it may not be your cup of tea but Nunally is not at all bothered by getting rowdy, and it seems to be their mutual love language. They're not physical with anyone else.

    MangaAnger9 February 21, 2021 2:45 am
    I get what you mean but they both fight each other tho. Plus I think you may be comparing stories you adore to all kinds of other ones. It’s obvious you won’t be satisfied if you always compare your favorit... plinky25

    They re fighting each other because he keeps provoking and attacking her first.
    I am already looking for other more progressive stories that fits me.
    I gave up on this story after giving a try because I was interested in the FL.
    When you discover the vaguely explained premise of a story, you get curious and start reading it. But you can't already know beforehand how bad the logic of the characters, storylines or how shitty the ML can be...

MangaAnger9 January 6, 2021 1:06 am

I am still worried about a possible future queen

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